Acura TL Engine Grounding for $20

Search popular car performance websites and you'll probably uncover discussions on improving the grounding of a car's engine and associated parts.

There are wild claims about the results from doing this. Some people claims this does nothing. Others claim 5 horsepower and 19 foot pounds of torque. As with most things, the truth is probably in between.

However, there is a degree of logic that the modification can help the car run somewhat "better". Newer cars have a lot of electronics on them - lots of sensors to provide information to the car's ECU. If there's electrical noise in these signals, then the ECU *might* make poor decisions while adjusting things like fuel/air ratios, timing, etc. The ECU is the Engine Control Unit or a "computer" that's dedicated to making your car's engine run correctly.

In theory, improving the grounding reduces the resistance of the electrical path, and makes it more likely that the sensors, etc. will return clean information.

So, for $20 and a little wrench time, it's an easy mod to perform even if you don't really notice much difference in performance.

On my TL, I chose to "daisy-chain" the chassis, alternator, engine, throttle body and battery negative post together. You may decide to add or remove some of these locations.

Step 1: Obtain The Cables

I used four (4), 19" 4 gauge "switch to starter" cables for my grounding kit. I obtained these from Pep Boys for $4.50 each. Less than $20 including tax.

These cables come in a variety of lengths. Nineteen inches was the shortest I found, and forty the longest. These cables have plain terminals on both ends. These cables were only available in the ultra-sexy "Henry Ford" black. Doesn't really matter - you'll pretty much never see them - another reason not to spend lots of bucks for 'primo' cables.

Comments

[flargman98]

I did this on my 02 accord with some knukonceptz 1/0 wire

[2N3055]

Great idea, just the reassurance I needed for my problematic alternator and battery. I will "mod" it slightly and connect one cable directly to the alternators armature.
Your mod should improve the current flow and possibly extend the life of BOTH alternator and battery, and that is priceless! Thanks

[jenkinch]

Looks like you just double grounded most of the components. If you were to get the wiring diagrams for you vehicle, there are usually a page or two dedicated to grounds. By referencing the grounds and grounding sensors that are only grounded by a chassis connection aka not by a wire, I think you would have accomplished more. By grounding things just by assuming, your probably just wasting your time. Not only that you can sometimes introduce more problem than doing good.

[wserrade]

Thanks for the write-up.  I just joined and went through the posts.  I guess some just don't get the point.  When you've replaced 5 PCMs on a Ford F-250, an article like this really clarifies the problem with grounding and what an educated owner needs to do.  Thanks again.

[sr1sws]

Thanks!

Really a properly designed and constructed vehicle *shouldn't* need or benefit from additional grounding.  However, you can start a "holy war" over the subject.

My effort was to demonstrate how to perform additional grounding without spending an absurd amount of money.  Of course people still buy Monster Cables for their sound systems too ;-)  If you got the bucks, then more power to you!

Hope your 250 benefits ;-)

Steve

[Yerboogieman]

Wow. I don't think i've ever seen so much plastic under the hood of a car.

[sr1sws]

Yeah, some people pull the covers to keep engine heat down.  Does tend to keep things clean though.

[desertdog]

Good point made.  Grounds are often the source of trouble for many ailments.  By the looks of your vehicle, you live in a salt free area.  It would be good to note that if you live in a salty, wet area you should check and clean ground straps once a year.  They seem to corrode very quickly and can cause all sorts of problems.

[sr1sws]

Thanks.  Yeah I live in Florida - no road salt here ;-)

[sezniko]

Awesome, thank you so much for this write up. I did this on my 2006 TL and have noticed steadier voltage, slightly better starting, and crisper sound. Although it could all be in my head.Once fact is true, I have gain 0.1V. Either way it looks cool for shows and was fun installing.

[Derin]

No relevance,but your battery is Bosch.

[dandatt]

I went to NAPA since it was in my neighborhood, and I paid more like $60. My fault, too lazy to drive further to Pep Boys. I did the mod, and am ecstatic about the performance, maybe it's in my head, but the car definitely feels faster, and if I could stop racing it from every dead stop, I'd be able to check the mileage. In my mind that will be the best objective test. The steps are amazingly well documented (thanks TL Ground man!!), and I recommend anybody with a TL do it. I feel it can make the car last longer also. A couple of "lessons learned" doing it; 1. The first nut is in an odd angle, and small, need to have the right tool to break this one loose. 2. I had to make a couple of slits in the battery cover panel for the new ground wire. TL Ground man's photo shows it like I did it, but had to make the slits with a box cutter. 3. Careful when turning the 3 nuts on the engine cover shroud. I "tightened" vs. half turned them, and I broke 2 of the 3. The dealer gave me the little plastic females, so all set. If you are thinking of doing this mod, I say DO IT! -DD

[sr1sws]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Steve

[Derin]

those TOFAŞ cars are no good

[Scott Dallesasse]

So, to help me understand. What you are doing is isolating the alternator, engine, throttle body from the rest of the car's electrical system? Also, if that is true, you are really not grounding them, only isolating. To ground means that everything has the same reference for a return path.

[sr1sws]

No, they are not isolated. The grounding kit parallels the existing ground and in theory would be a preferred path due to lower resistance. The new cables act more like a buss bar for the DC negative pole ("ground" in modern cars) of the battery. Make sense?

[theRIAA]

i don't think you'll ever make up the $20... the weight of the cables might actually just cost you a $1 in gas over the car's lifetime /: there's already enough excess electrons built up in your engine block, they have no problem going through the spark plug and back to the battery. cleaning your spark plugs off would do more.

[Josho]

It could save you gas as well though. Better grounding means a better curret which means slightly less strain on the alternator. It also puts less strain on the original grounding cables. FIAT's have terrible grounding, this would help them out.

[sr1sws]

Ummm, pretty much everyone suggesting this mod does it for performance, not fuel savings. I'm certainly not concerned about recovering my $20.

[theRIAA]

um....... /:

[Tool Using Animal]

Not a bad idea, I've been meaning to do something similar on my F150, as they're notoriously badly grounded, my plan was simply to add a beefy chassis to battery and starter to chassis. But I've been too busy doing tranny work on my wifes cherokee. I'll add this to my fav's and then it will nag me until I get it done ;-).