Step 2: Rewire Your Battery Holder

This step is necessary if you use a small enough solar panel to fit on top of the tin.  I rescued mine from some cheap solar landscaping lights.  They produce more than 3V each in direct sunlight, but that's not enough to charge all four batteries.  So I decided to make them charge two sets of two batteries.  This is possible with a DPDT (Double Pole - Double Throw) toggle switch.  You need to alter the battery holder to make this possible.  First, you need to remove the cover of the wire compartment.  This was done with a shop knife by cutting off the plastic connectors.  Then, just cut the connection between batteries 2 and 3 (Red arrow).  Lastly, solder a wire to each connection and run them out the same hole the other wires are coming out.  I also removed the switch from the holder because I won't be able to get at it once the holder is attached to the project tin... and you never know when you might need an extra switch anyway.
<p>Made this, but instead of the solar charging circuit, I used AA batteries.</p><p>Charges my phone about 60%</p><p>Best part is, if it runs out of charge, just pop in a spare set of rechargeable batteries.</p>
I like this. Thankyou. <br>Is there a reason AAA is used vs AA? Can AA be used instead?
Has anyone tried using a usb car adapter plug for the usb female part?
<p>Why is there never a good video for ppl like me who more visual? I don't understand the way it was explained </p>
Could you please send me the walk through for the switch and light txcoasty@gmail.com
I use 7805 votage regulater 2 100 ohm resistor to d+ or d- 8 aa rechargable cell 4 cell hav 1000 mah so 8 cell have 2000 mah but prblm is tht my iphone shw charging but not increase the battery persentage it decreased after few sec n min plz help me i use 2 cell holder 1 holder capacity is 4 cell i use cell series or parralel but not working
<p>hie</p><p>great insructable but my iphone just shows the charging icon but doesnt actually charge</p>
It means that if we wana to charge an android device we don't need resestors? <br>Plz answer as soon as you can.
Yes. It means you don't need the resisters. Apple devices require voltage to the data pins but most others do not.
<p>I just read that:<br><br>The IEEE USB charger standard requires dumb chargers (those like yours without the extra electronics required to signal that they are a charger) have their data pins shorted to each other, so the phone will recognize that this is just a charger, not a USB port and start charging immediately otherwise it waits for the USB bus allocated address.<br><br>This was a post on a forum and I have not verified it by trying to find the IEEE specifications.</p><p>I want to make a battery pack charger that only uses batteries, their holder and a USB connection--I never travel without lots of rechargeable batteries and can recharge them during the stops with my standard charger for the camera.<br><br>Comments anyone</p>
just did this on a bread board. It worked! Thanks for posting this.
As quickly as possible would be nice. thanks again
Can you make a video? Please
I'll see what I can do. I have to make another of these anyway.
why do you need a blocking diode?
Wouldn't a voltage regulator work aswell?
Okay where in the circuit would I put it?
A 100k ohm pot. would work and be easy to find. The smaller the pot. the easier it would be to set it just right. If you don't know how to use a pot. for a voltage divider it would take me a lot more space to explain it then in this comment section. It's not difficult to do, it's just hard for me to explain without pics.
And what kind would I get?
If I was going to go the potentiometer route were would I put it at in the circuit?
Regular 1.5volt batteries won't work. That gives you too much voltage. I used rechargeable for that very reason. NiMH rechargeable batteries are 1.2volts a piece. This is all on the i'ble. If you can't use rechargeable, you should use a potentiometer for a regulator. That would work.
As far as I know I'm just using regular 1.5 alkaline AA batteries from SAMs (I wasn't going to get rechargeable till I got it to work) how do I get it down? Maybe another resistor?
Levi: it looks like they are wired correctly and you are using the right resistors. That's a step in the right direction. Your voltages are all way off. You need to do something about the input voltage. How are you getting 6.37 VDC from four 1.3 volt batteries? Are you using NiCd instead of NiMH? The voltage from positive to ground needs to be very close to 5VDC. then your other voltages should come out fine when that happens. <br/><br/>If you have anymore questions you can write me at myk@haikuordie.com. I can respond easier that way.
Okay I have put it all on a perf board and I used a multi meter I have the settings on 20DCV and I'm reading ground to positive 6.37 ground to data + 3.18 ground to data - 2.53…sorry all I had was red and white cables
Levi: It looks from the pics that you may have the pins backwards. It's hard to tell. The best way to diagnose the issue would be with a digital multimeter. Make sure you are getting the correct voltage to the correct pins.<br/><br/>One way to see if the wires are at least somewhat correct is to see if this will charge an android phone or other device. I don't suggest doing this with something you really care about unless you are sure it is pinned right. If it will charge something other than an iDevice, you can try switching the wires to the middle pins. If this doesn't work, you really need to find out what the voltages you're getting to the various pins. You may have a resistor working outside its tolerance or maybe your batteries are giving a strange voltage (more or less than required).
Hey sorry I don't have any perf board and I'm kinda new can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? For some reason my iPhone wont recognize it. I just took off the switch till I get it recognizing<br/><br/>Please any info would help
When it says &quot;blocking diode&quot; will any diode work(other than LED)? <br>I Googled Blocking Diode, and they are a few dollars, But i have my own diodes, will they work as long as they are rated above the maximum output of the Panels?
Yes. Any diode <strong><em>should</em></strong> work.
hi austin i'm pretty sure that all diodes will work as they serve the same function.
Why not 3 solars
I didn't have the room on the project box.
Would it work if i had 2 round solar panels that are about an inch in diameter? Or would they be to small
That sounds a bit too small but it really depends on their output. I think the range can be found somewhere in this i'ble.
Hey could u send pic of the front of the board thanks
I would if I still had this charger, but I do not. Please refer to step 5 where I gave a color-coded diagram of what this board should look like.
Thanks for this amazing project. Let me ask you some questions: <br>- I've seen similar projects with no switch, is that possible? I mean, can we chager the battery pack at the same time a device is being charged by the usb connection? <br>- 4AA or 4AAA battery pack would get 4.8v at fully charged, but it's getting lower they are draining, will it still work? why don't you place a DC-to/USB converter to get always 5v from 3v-4.8v output battery pack voltage? <br> <br>Thanks in advance
Thanks for your comment. First, you CAN do this without the switch (I'd guess you're referring to the series-to-parallel switch). I only used this to save the project from needing solar cells that are larger than the tin. You CAN charge the battery pack and a USB device at the same time. You would need a solar cell capable of doing this. My guess is you'd want to obtain a large one that puts out more voltage and amperage than is needed and add a regulator. This, of course, would complicate things by making it larger and less convenient... but to each his own. =) <br> <br>I'm not sure I understand what you're asking about the battery pack. I chose to use 4 rechargeable batteries in order to make this as simple as possible... meaning without the need for a regulator or a charge-pump. There are a couple of projects out there that use these and I'm sure work well. If you want to modify my project and integrate a system from another project, I would love to see the results. <br> <br>Cheers <br>myk
Hey there great post just needed some help i'm basing a similar project and trying to fit it into an altoids smalls hopefully I can get it all together to share on here. But I have a question I made a similar setup and wanted you to check it I ran the circuit on a simulator and this was my result the numbers are a bit different than yours can you tell me if it would still be safe for my devices and would it work?
It looks like a pretty good schem. The only trouble I can see with it is the solar cell. If this is in full sun it will be producing 6vdc which is more than you want to power the usb with. It also might not be enough tto charge the batteries if your cell is the least bit shaded. If you plan on only plugging in devices when it's in the shade this should work out okay for you.
I have no idea what kind of &quot;board&quot; you're talking about. It is not mentioned in the materials list. I am just so confused right now. If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated.
The materials list has a &quot;Small perf board&quot;. It's the type you can buy at places like Radio Shack. They typically call it a &quot;project board&quot; but it is often call a perferrated board. I said that it was optional because you can always solder the parts together without any board if you're a well-seasoned solderer. I don't suggest this BTW. I only put it out there because I've done this a great many times myself when I was in a pinch and just wanted to try out a circuit (I use a breadboard for such endeavers nowadays). I hope this isn't your first project. I know I've messed up many a component trying to do a project I wasn't ready for. Message me if you have any other questions. <br> <br>myk
if you wanted to remove the batteries and have the solar panels directly charge your iphone, how big would you need the panels to be? <br> <br>I am looking to have something that can charge my phone while i am outside but want it as small and light as possible. I figured if i removed the batteries i would just need to make sure i had enough power from the solar panels to come in and some sort of charge regulator right? <br> <br>Thanks for the help.
You may be more interested in a build entirely without batteries, then, such as: <br> <br>https://www.instructables.com/id/Altoids-Smalls-Solar-Powered-USB-Charger/
Can you take a picture of the top part of the Pref board? If you can that world be awesome becaus ei am having trouble using the skematic <br>
I hooked mine up and the phone recognizes it is plugged in, but does not charge. Troubleshoot? Cut wires and re solder?
Hey cool instructable i finished mine today and tested it out on my brothers Black Berry it ended up Discharging the phones battery it went from 85% to 80% what do you think?? oh and i put a Blocking Doide before going to the USB on the lead
Hello. I was wondering where you could find the colored data wires such as yellow , green,blue,dark blue, etc. I don't want to destroy my ipod charger to just get to the wires. The cord is $30 I'm sure your aware of the USB cables for iPods. Thanks help much appreciated.
Also what gauges are the wires you used just wondering and what voltages or amps? Thanks again.
The wires I used were (I believe) 18 gauge. They may have been 20, but I don't have anymore wire left to check. I think I purchased a 100ft roll of &quot;round wire&quot; at a local electronic supplier (very much like Radio Shack, but cheaper) for around $5 USD. It's great for projects and fits beautifully into a breadboard. I wouldn't suggest cutting into your charge/sync cord. <br> <br>If you're paying $30 for an iPod cord, you haven't looked around much. I get them online for about $2. <br> <br>try here: http://www.miniinthebox.com/cables_c4611?keyword=ipod+cable <br> <br>I still wouldn't cut it unless it was broken anyway. If you need a female usb I found them somewhere for around $.25 a piece (+ shipping)

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