Aluminum Bottle Tumbler Cup & Cook Pot for an Alcohol Stove

 by hpstoutharrow
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Roll a rim on an Aluminum Bottle to create a Tumbler Cup, or a Cook Pot for a backpacking stove.

This instructable walks through the process of making a mouth-friendly edge on an aluminum bottle turning it into a Cool Reusable Metal Tumbler Cup.

The steps outlined here are, stand-alone, instructions to make a complete Metal Tumber from an aluminum bottle; suitable to use as a lightweight tankard for all your favorite beverages.
(I recommend the chilled kind. Remember science?...aluminum is an excellent heat conductor; you don't want hot cocoa burns on your fingertips as well as the tip of your tongue!)

However... those of you familiar with the Aluminum Bottle Backpacking Stove,
( http://www.instructables.com/id/Aluminum-Bottle-Alcohol-Stove/ ) will also recognize the technique demonstrated here, as a means for creating light weight cooking tools to accompany an alcohol stove.

The video below shows these Aluminum Bottles & Tumblers in use as a lightweight backpacking cook / storage system.



 
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I have gotten inquires about the availability of this style aluminum bottle.
The bottles are obviously used for beer (and I know at least one soft drink) however, availability of either (or any for that matter) varies by region.

As an added note: I had reservation about posting an instructable that featured an alcohol container as it is not appropriate for all. I would have perfered to use a soft drink bottle however due to availability in my area, I only have found the beer bottle variety.
But ultimately, its the aluminum bottle that we're interested in, not necessarly the beverage. Dispose of the contents as you deem appropriate, or seek out empties through another source.

(Along the same lines: I am pretty sure not everyone who has built a bar-b-que from a steel barrel personally bought, and consumed the 50 gallons of Crude Oil inside to get to an empty drum.)
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tinkrtur1 says: Dec 3, 2012. 9:13 PM
I contacted Budweiser HQ and gave them my zip code. They provided me with the names of places to purchase their beer in my local area. You might want to try the same with coca-cola, pepsi-co, coors, etc.
AbbieX says: Jun 1, 2012. 1:11 PM
Dollar Tree sells cheapo aluminum water "bottles" for...you guessed it...$1! Yeah, I would rather go this route than to choke down a budmiloors!
JoshuaSmock says: Jul 28, 2011. 10:41 AM
Venom Energy drinks come in thick aluminum bottles, as a non-alcoholic alternative, also it's made by Dr Pepper Snapple so it's widely available.
WayfinderAli says: Sep 20, 2010. 10:49 AM
a few matching pairs of these would make a great inexpensive wedding present if you have friends that are big drinkers. We have friend who are HUGE drinkers and wish I could have made them some for their recent wedding.
nodnol says: Sep 24, 2009. 8:20 AM
What kind of lining is in the aluminum bottle? Doctors and food safety specialists often say not to store food or beverages in opened aluminum containers, or re-use the containers because the aluminum may leach out. Aluminum consumption is linked to Alzheimer's Disease. However, if the bottle has a protective lining, it should be ok to re-use.
hpstoutharrow (author) in reply to nodnolSep 24, 2009. 3:13 PM
I believe most metal food and beverage containers are sprayed with a food grade epoxy coating to prevent contact (and chemical reactions) between the food and metal.
mrsayao in reply to hpstoutharrowSep 25, 2009. 11:42 AM
Some cans are lined with BPA. The use of BPA has become a huge debate. The food packaging industry is clearly for the use of BPA as it does exactly what you two are stating, however the flip side of the debate mothers, doctors have begun to voice their experiences with it. Canada has begun to ban the chemical in all food grade containers. It's sad to come to know that since a lot of things in this world can cause cancer, it would be extremely difficult to stay away from everything that is "cancer causing." I'm against BPA use, but I am TOTALLY for these aluminum tumblers!!! Good job, I've always wanted to know how to roll an aluminum lip like that!
kill-a-watt in reply to mrsayaoSep 2, 2010. 4:48 AM
My understanding is that the entire industry is phasing out that type of plastic liner for all types of cans. I think I saw a news story on that only a few weeks ago.
spark master says: May 10, 2010. 2:20 PM
incredible, I thought you would need to fire the rim first, it might even be helpful. I wish I had gotten into making these BEFORE the bottles became extinct! 

can't really get them  here on LI w/o extreme expense, and if you do not like Bud, (me), or can't drink anymore anyway , (me) , then y'all screwed. I would love to try this out . Anyone out there know of any place out here that sell it on premise , so I could try to scrounge them ??

thanks

chris
TheLimbReaper in reply to spark masterAug 21, 2010. 3:57 PM
In Pennsylvania I first saw the aluminum bottles at the local bar for a special event. Mostly I don't see them at the bar but now the beer distributer sells Bud alum. bottles by the case. I suggest checking at your local drinking establishments, that is if you're still allowed to enter.
spark master in reply to TheLimbReaperAug 24, 2010. 5:23 AM
Hi Limb Reaper, DAD BURNIT IT! I found your reply the day I got back from Pennsylvannia !! AARRGGHH I even passed two beer distributors. I gotta say I hate Budweiser so I would never have bought the stuff, do they have Deposit bottles there? sparkie
TheLimbReaper in reply to spark masterAug 24, 2010. 2:25 PM
Ha, I'm hot a big Bud fan either. No we don't have any deposits in my area North of Pittsburgh. I suggest buying a case and gifting it on the condition that the receiver returns the bottles to you.
spark master in reply to TheLimbReaperAug 24, 2010. 6:17 PM
Hi, Good Idea, gone flat. Anybody I know that I would willingly give a caser of beer to (at a very high price), would not be caught dead with a Bud in their hands. All of us drink german stuff. This week a big special by us is buy a case of Hoffbrau October fest, get a 1 liter Stein (glass, not clay :-( ) free. I have two now, (or soon will, they owe me one). I may buy a few (if I can find them) and just dump them out. I can drink maybe two then they destroy me, bad hamngover or futzie head next day. Drink the Deutch stuff, no worries. I just wish I had gotten your email B$ I left PA , I passed two beer distributors on way home. Of course in PA one must buy "cases" from a beer distributor, here in NY it is wacko, but I can buy onsies and twosies in a BD. ttfn sparkie
jaberwok32 says: Oct 8, 2009. 10:14 AM
hpstoutharrow ,  I think your instruckable is fantastic.  I made the backpackstove, it works great.  I have a question though, when I try to roll the edge of the tumbler, I get to the point when you work it on the wood, the lip is beveled out flat and when I start the rolling over process on the first roll I constantly get a crack .  Im having trouble getting the first roll to lay flat against the can.  Ive tried so much my fiance is beginging to think Im an Alcoholic.  Lol   Am I putting too much pressure? Going to fast?  If you could enlighten me that would be great.   Im sure your an expert and these are just amature mistakes but I would really like a tumbler set lol.
Thanks
hpstoutharrow (author) in reply to jaberwok32Oct 8, 2009. 7:01 PM
A few split when I first started. I hope something here helps:
1. Make sure the cut edge is free of saw nicks, burrs, and file marks. There should be no edge imperfections that could initiate a crack.
2. The cut edge should be flat. After any cutting or de-burr filing turn the edge on emery cloth placed on a flat surface. Removing material this way eliminates high spots on the edge and ensures the edge has a full wall stock thickness.
(see the first photo below)
3. When the flare is started make sure the edge is not too wide.
4. When rocking the bottle on the wood to roll the edge, do it gradually and evenly. It will take a number of turns. Periodically stop and examine the edge to make sure it is rolling evenly. Adjust downward pressure accordingly.
5.  Make sure the bottle stays round while rocking the bottle do not apply so much downward force that the edge of the bottle takes on an extreme oval shape. Stop occasionally and use the dowel or push bottle over the neck end of another bottle or use a PVC pipe connector (photo 2 below) to "stretch" the edge back into round.

Good luck and keep trying. Let me know if you succeed.
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TheLimbReaper in reply to hpstoutharrowAug 21, 2010. 4:16 PM
Ah gee, looking at your pics. I guess I can't add much useful as I too figured out to use the PVC collars also. I can suggest to use the shortened bottom of a "cottle" and a leather mallet to help form an "inside" rolled lip. This works especially well if the bottle bottom is streached first. Also some single use propane cylinders (Worthington brand) when cut open (extreme caution warning: Be certain cylinder is completely empty before cutting open) have a dished bottom wish is handy in forming an internal bead. The "forming" can bottom must have a small hole drilled in it to avoid a vaccum. I hope that's helpful to somebody.
TheLimbReaper says: Aug 21, 2010. 3:52 PM
I wouldn't get too excited about posting the "beer bottle" stove since most kiddies know what beer is. I do have to agree with the comments against using the cans as the primary cooking vessel as they certainly are lined (at least the soda cans). With that said; I have thrown caution to the wind and made a coffee percolator from Bud bottles myself.
lostdragon says: Aug 2, 2010. 12:30 PM
I wouldn't use one of these to cook anything in. They are usually lined with something that isn't made to be heated and you'll end up eating it. Somebody e-mailed Heineken in a different 'ible about making a cook pot out of their beer cans and they replied with as much. Be careful.
TANZMEISTER in reply to lostdragonAug 2, 2010. 2:33 PM
They're lined with plastic. Though any that will vaporize will burn off the first time you use it. And you don't eat the flames (I hope).
TANZMEISTER says: Jul 17, 2010. 8:52 AM
using another bottle as a pot is a neat concept. However, it seems that with the flames racing up the sides your losing at least half your heat to the surrounding system rather then transfering it to your desired heat reservoir (your pot). If having better efficiency is not an issue, then using the bottle as a pot is great. If better efficiency is an issue, then I'd recommend a pot with a larger base, twice the diameter of the heat source is usually recommended for gas camp stoves. your pot design is still the best I've seen here on instructcables!
TANZMEISTER in reply to TANZMEISTERAug 2, 2010. 2:32 PM
fail! I ment to say stove design at the end there
SasquatchKid says: Jun 25, 2010. 1:44 PM
Great ible
ch5 says: Apr 21, 2010. 11:07 AM
Awesome!
I didn't think that putting such a neat finish on the borders could be done by hand without some kind of weird specific tool.
I'm doing this to my alcohol stoves soon :)

Thanks a lot.

kimbe mtumbo says: Feb 27, 2010. 5:10 AM
Quite cool.  I wish I had a set of these.
junits15 says: Sep 17, 2009. 3:42 PM
what brand of soda uses these?
smn368 in reply to junits15Sep 21, 2009. 6:14 AM
there were a few limited edition mt dew and other pepsi products that were in the same bottles
junits15 in reply to smn368Sep 21, 2009. 12:55 PM
as soon as i read, "limited" i went, DARN
Father Christmas in reply to junits15Dec 26, 2009. 2:50 PM
The "Venom"  brand energy drink also uses these bottles.
Father Christmas in reply to Father ChristmasDec 27, 2009. 5:45 PM
speaking of the Venom brand, i bought two last night and remember mentioning them here. So, naturally, I followed this instructable lol 
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hpstoutharrow (author) in reply to Father ChristmasDec 28, 2009. 10:51 AM
 Nicely done!  The Venom graphic looks great as a cup.
Father Christmas in reply to hpstoutharrowDec 28, 2009. 10:56 AM
I agree. I am contemplating buying the other flavours just for the purpose of a full set, to give as gifts to those certain people who are obsessed with energy drinks.. 
hpstoutharrow (author) in reply to Father ChristmasDec 28, 2009. 5:55 PM
 I found some Mt. Dew aluminum bottles with Halloween designs this last October.  How's this as an "eye for an eye".   Though I think I like the Venom eye better.


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Father Christmas in reply to hpstoutharrowDec 28, 2009. 6:39 PM
ha! Eye for an Eye! That was pure genius! I never woulda thought of that! :)
hpstoutharrow (author) in reply to junits15Sep 17, 2009. 3:57 PM
I received comments there are bottles of Mountain Dew. I have not found them myself.
voltagedude in reply to hpstoutharrowSep 25, 2009. 5:18 PM
one of my friends had one il ask him!
junits15 in reply to hpstoutharrowSep 17, 2009. 5:40 PM
ok, I have sen bottle like this with coke in them, but they are a diffrent shape.
msw100 says: Nov 19, 2009. 1:43 PM
Great job, you must have had plenty of practice to get to this standard

jdc187 says: Sep 26, 2009. 2:08 AM
while I love the commitment to craftmanship couldn't you just sand the upper edge smooth and role once
shamanwhitewolf says: Sep 25, 2009. 9:24 AM
(Along the same lines: I am pretty sure not everyone who has built a bar-b-que from a steel barrel personally bought, and consumed the 50 gallons of Crude Oil inside to get to an empty drum.)

Hehe You don't know my uncle down in S.E. Texas!

This is really cool. This was part of this week's email and the timing is perfect- it helps with some ideas for something I'm looking for. As a biker, I find it a pain in the butt to fill the tank. The McCuff is a rubber-like device that makes it super easy, but you have to put it on, take it, etc. (I'm lazy, I know) So I'm thinking of trying to build something out of aluminum or stainless that stays in the take-fill hole and is collapsible. Basically, you'd open the fill hatch, lift the multi-section device with a twist (which locks it in the 'up' position, fill the tank, and collapse the device back down with a reverse-twist, close the hatch and go. Any ideas how to add your brilliance to my idea and make it, you know, actually work?
dpainter says: Sep 24, 2009. 12:53 PM
Is the end of the dowel, the end in the can, cut square or rounded?
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