Introduction: BMX to Motorbike Conversion

Well ok i took my old gary fisher bmx bike. Took my old mcculloch 32cc leafblower. I stripped it down to just the shaft and engine and well youll see the rest

PLEASE NOTE; this is just a experiment to try out instructable I will make a 1 on 1 video and take u through the whole process soon

Step 1: Mounting the Peg Onto the Engine

Well ok the first thing u want to do is jam the flywheel with a screw driver this allows you to work without the engine spinning freely. Well for my friction shaft i used a normal bicycle peg i would recommend using a 3 inch peg because i used a 4 and that was way too long. The engine i was using has a 5/16 keyed shaft. This was extremely difficult to work with considering it was only 1 inch long and u have 2 fit alot of stuff on it. The pattern i used to lock every thing in place was in this order a skateboard bearing, bike peg, lock washer, nut. This pattern seemed to work very well.

Step 2: Mounting the Engine on the Bike

well there are thousands of ways of doing this but the approach i took was pipe clamps and nuts and bolts. First of all because i dont have a welder yet and i dont want to ruin my bike. Well since backpack leaf blowers have anti-vibrational spring i used those with a nut and bolt and those thing that go around a handle bar that u have ur bike reflector on except metal. on other areas i just used pipe clamps because i can adjust those easily. For the friction to be applyed to the tire with force i used a very small spring on the mount closest to the shaft for the most leverage. Do remember that this bike cannot idle so you must start it and then run with it and jump on :) Spacecadet505 does not take any responsibility in injury by the machine or human error or anything else:)

Step 3: Go for a Ride

DO NOTE that i have tested this invention and it is not 100 % my main problem is just how to get enough friction on the tire please leave comments with ideas i will appreciate them.
Go for a ride!!

Step 4: JUST a PICTURE FROM a DIFFERENT ANGLE

read the title...

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BrianW121 made it! (author)2016-02-28

I built one few years back with a 1500cc Homelite, i call it my weed chopper

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Deepest port made it! (author)2015-08-25

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ninjassassinswag made it! (author)2014-05-01

You might want to add a counter weight for the motor on the other side and maybe remove the pedals and attach them further away from the engine but other than that great idea

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Mr.Hambone made it! (author)2010-04-20

You could make this safer if you improvised a brake handle and cable running to the motor. That way you could pull the peg away from the tire when you wanted to idle. A spring could pull it back into place. It would work in the same sort of way you tension an alternator for a car engine. You would need to mount the motor on a pivot first.

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PerfectPantaloons made it! (author)PerfectPantaloons2010-12-16

you mean it would be a manual clutch.... that would be more dangerous if you had a larger motor, you have to consider all of that kinetic energy being transfered in almost an instant to the bike. As soo as the flywheel hit the bike you would wheelie and potentially hut yourself

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Yard Sale Dale made it! (author)Yard Sale Dale2012-12-30

Fixed roller systems (no centrifugal clutch) were in use on some British bikes of the 1900s. They employed a handlebar kill switch for stopping, and pedaling for take-off and engine start. If you have a lift-lever for a "clutch", you will do fine as long as you can move the bike up to the engine's idle speed or better before engaging, or endure the tire scuffing under throttle to take off.

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Yard Sale Dale made it! (author)2012-12-30

Look on motorbicycling.com for home-built friction drives. Machining the roller will work a LOT better than trying to weld anything on it (lines, grids, etc) or epoxying sand.

It's better to have a bike that you can pedal normally, with the motor on the back, or on the fork. A handle-bar mounted kill switch is a good idea if you do not have a clutch.

I have a friction drive bike I made with a kit from Thats Dax, and a Japanese industrial motor. It works great, has a huge clutch, and a Quick Release to move the roller off the tire. You can put one on a BMX if you want, and it's possible the leaf blower engine will mount to a Dax friction drive kit. Also there is Staton-Inc, which offers more clutch drum sizes.

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TSC made it! (author)2011-06-03

Well you could weld lines down the peg all around it that would give it enough friction !

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Damp Cuttlefish made it! (author)2010-08-26

nice instructable, im planning on making something like this with an old chainsaw

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ElvenChild made it! (author)2009-09-23

whenever I try to watch the video it says it was removed please put it back up

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duh-man made it! (author)duh-man2010-04-06

same.

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qaswed made it! (author)2010-02-04

Looks nice.  I plan on building another motorized bike soon.  It will be friction drive also.

FYI, you can't just put a sprocket on because it would not be a low enough gear ratio.  You will need about 35:1, perhaps 40:1 for a weedwacker motor.  Otherwise it will just bog down the motor.

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sharlston made it! (author)2009-12-22

if you put a small bike sprocket onto the shaft you could put it on the chain

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sharlston made it! (author)2009-12-22

try connecting the shaft to the crank instead of the wheel

great ible 5 stars

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MrRodrigez made it! (author)2009-11-15

 if I get around to it, I'll try this on my bike with an old weedwacker, but honestly I'll just go for a new centrifugal clutch, or a manual handlebar mounted control, then directly chain it up, effectively making it a trailbike type thing rather than a motorbike :S

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abbynormal made it! (author)2009-10-31

You may be able to find a piece of rubber hose that will fit over the peg. It will need to fit much like a handle grip fits on handlebars.

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asterman made it! (author)2009-08-24

I think you should mount the engine about 1 1/2 to 2 inches away from the bike so the grooved rough part of the peg makes contact with the tire instead of the smooth part.

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abadfart made it! (author)2009-06-02

what if you put a gear on the peg and put the chain on it

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Sandisk1duo made it! (author)Sandisk1duo2009-08-18

then you can't pedal

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annas one made it! (author)2008-10-19

mount the clutch on the engine shaft and run a bike chain from the clutch to the new gear on the pedal shaft

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erikals made it! (author)erikals2009-08-15

yeah, good idea, use the brake lever that controls the back brake so u can use that for a clutch just like on real motorbikes,

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leedemo made it! (author)2009-08-12

that peg looks pretty slick where it touches the tire, maybe throw a bunch of tight rubber bands (for lack of a better idea) or something on there

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dondonjordan made it! (author)2009-05-15

the gears on the bike would be useless as the gearing is actually changed with different sized pegs you can use the same method to mount the engine to the front of the bike that way you can keep the pedals but if you have crappy engine you'll just stink of exhaust everywhere you go

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lil jon168 made it! (author)2009-04-24

were did you get your shaft

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dondonjordan made it! (author)dondonjordan2009-05-15

you can use a peg from a bmx wheel you can get etched ones for more grip

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abecar12 made it! (author)2009-04-30

it looks like you have the engine mounted right on the tire so my suggestion is that you flatin the tire about 3/4 of the way and remount the motor on the tire as hard as you can without hitting the rim and fill the tire up with air again that should give you a lot of friction and if that dosent work you should get a tire with big tread and do what i said

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annas one made it! (author)2008-10-19

you might want to do this to a gear bike for added speed

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annas one made it! (author)2008-10-19

you would mount the engine onto the bike frame between the front tire and the pedals with the shaft on the oposite side of the bikes gears you would then chop the pedal arms off remove the remaining parts of the pedal arm on the gearless side of the pedals and replace this with another set of gears (from another bike)

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annas one made it! (author)2008-10-19

ok so i have been trying something like this what you need is another set of pedal gears a horizontal shafted engine that can fit in your frame and a centrifugal cluch (with 41 sise sprocket/bikechain size gear/to fit on the engine shaftyou can get the clutch at tracter supply

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vanmankline made it! (author)2008-09-06

Any update on the bike? What do you think is the top speed? I'm looking into a similar project, however I plan to install an idle pulley/gear and a drive gear/pulley on the left side of the peddles This will allow more freedom in positioning the motor. I would also be able to use the bike's 21 speed ratios as a manual tranny. The idle would allow a "neutral" position. Have you thought about repositioning the gas tank? I'm not sure on your modle, but I'm looking at placing it higher up so I can have more freedom due to the decreased size of the motor unit.

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savagemania made it! (author)2008-07-16

You change the peg to a small rubber tire. This might help reduce the wear on the tread of the rear tire. I built something like this except using a chain drive and taking out the pedals.

https://www.instructables.com/id/Gas-Powered-BMX-Bike/

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killerjackalope made it! (author)2008-02-07

Using the textured bit of the peg would be better for drive but that's not a bad conversion, it's also quite safe because the friction drive is self regulating to some extent... You can stop it with the back brake, no doubt the engine overcome the friction and spins freely I would guess. Mine was a strimmer with the engine assembly mounted up front on the forks, when you braked the assembly tilted forward coming away from the wheel... It was simple to control, you just got up to speed and pushed the assembly down on the wheel and the inertia held it in place.

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spacecadet505 made it! (author)spacecadet5052008-02-07

cool yeah ive been working on more things like this like a go kart stay tuned

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killerjackalope made it! (author)killerjackalope2008-02-07

Hmmm I'm working on a few Ideas now, hopefully the result of the motorised projct will run well, bicycle with what I've now decided as a 12hp minimum, that's the largest engine I've got in stock atm... but with some fnacy gearing and dodgy welding it could be pretty special... The other one looks like it's a no go unless you know where to get some really, really big rocket engines... I'd like to see the go kart, I was thinking of one but I'm not too sure about what way to go about with the frame... my best idea so far involoves a 1.6L rover engine and gearbox, that may prove to be suicide, so it's on hold until I get a better idea/engine, maybe a motorbike engine and gearbox

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spacecadet505 made it! (author)spacecadet5052008-03-02

a motorbike engine would be ALOT better because it already has a gear box in it my friend is working on a shifter cart using a yamaha 175 2stroke engine. Using a 4stroke like a briggs and stratton would eliminate some mounting issues but also bring up other issues like the wear and tear on forinstince the torque converter.

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killerjackalope made it! (author)killerjackalope2008-03-03

If you used a flywheel to smooth the power delivery the torque converter would live longer... If I get my hands on a motorbike with a working engine but it's wrecked you'll probably see how to make a quad bike from a motorbike or a how to make a go kart from. Imagine turning a fireblade into a quadbike, it'd be unholy, not to mention capable of killing you...

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spacecadet505 made it! (author)spacecadet5052008-02-07

if u want to see me starting this bike and driving dirtbikes and go karts my utube account is spacecadet505

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spacecadet505 made it! (author)spacecadet5052008-02-07

no actually i have the links on step 3

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killerjackalope made it! (author)killerjackalope2008-02-07

I had a wee look, I have my hands on a bike frame with on of those wierd suspension setups that's just perfect for the built in engine, it's all on the rear subframe and is easily cut to add room fo the engine, still need a clutch though.

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GorillazMiko made it! (author)2008-02-07

Cool I guess. I like the dog in step 3. ;-)

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dragonforce made it! (author)dragonforce2008-03-02

Great work. would it be possible to use a chain saw motor? or anything around that size as a motor?

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spacecadet505 made it! (author)spacecadet5052008-03-02

yes of course but chainsaws dont have the right clutch so that would call for machining. What i would recomend is using a weedwacker engine because they have a centrifical clutch with a sprocket look up weedwacker motorbike from davesfarm on youtube i know the guy and he did a very quality job on his using a weedwacker. Let me know what you decide to use.

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LinuxH4x0r made it! (author)2008-02-07

Awesome! If you want more friction coat it in rubber, or just use it with a chain

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spacecadet505 made it! (author)spacecadet5052008-02-07

Thank you im making another one with a garbage picked bike which i can cut up and weld with my friends welder which im gonna put a chain on.

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LinuxH4x0r made it! (author)LinuxH4x0r2008-02-07

can't wait to see it!

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jtobako made it! (author)2008-02-07

There are a couple of options. One is to push (or pull) the motor with a spring or some weight so that it presses harder on the wheel. A different option is to put a chain sprocket on the motor and run a chain from the motor to the wheel-after all, the motor looks like it's in the way of the peddles.

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spacecadet505 made it! (author)spacecadet5052008-02-07

yeah thats what im getting this weekend is a spring mounted with a pulling force.

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