Be a Scientist: Build an Electrostatic Motor

 by Kiteman
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Normal motors are driven by electromagnetic forces. This motor needs no batteries, mains supply or solar cells. Electrostatic motors are turned by the kind of electricity generated by wearing nylon clothes in a modern office. Think of it as gigantic nano-technology as well, because this is how the microscopic motors of nanobots work.

 
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Step 1: Gather your materials.

For the basic motor, you need a disposable plastic drinking cup, aluminium foil, glue-stick, bamboo or dowel (at least a centimetre or two longer than the cup is tall), wire and a non-conducting base, such as a plastic plate or a wooden board.
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SgBriggs says: Jan 6, 2013. 12:00 AM
could i power this from a bank on capasitors?
Kiteman (author) in reply to SgBriggsJan 6, 2013. 12:22 AM
Not very well - the voltage needs to be in the thousands.
john500 says: Sep 23, 2012. 5:16 PM
hi
i have a question, one part of copper wire goes connected to earth and to a static electricity fuel or to a baloon, the other part of wire... goes where?
thanks
Kiteman (author) in reply to john500Sep 23, 2012. 10:56 PM
That's it. One wire feeds static from the generator (balloon, whatever), and the other drains it to Earth / ground.
ThatCatMan says: Sep 8, 2012. 11:13 PM
Are we able to use things other than a plastic cup, say a lightweight tin can with a curved bottom?
Kiteman (author) in reply to ThatCatManSep 9, 2012. 1:29 AM
Not for the rotor - each panel of foil needs to be fully insulated from the others. You could use a paper cup, or a plastic bottle, but not a metal container.
brettbeatty says: Feb 10, 2012. 5:17 PM
As I understand, the number of foil parts on the rotor should be an odd number so the charges are never in equilibrium.
Kiteman (author) in reply to brettbeattyFeb 11, 2012. 6:15 AM
That's sound logic, although I've never tested it.

We tended to make the foils in pairs to make it easier to balance the rotor.
jembersonic says: May 15, 2011. 7:14 AM
This didn't work With the TV method, my ground was a plumbed radiator :/
Kiteman (author) in reply to jembersonicMay 15, 2011. 7:43 AM
That's a shame.

My first questions would be "Was the weather humid?", and "Were you in contact with bare metal on the radiator?".

Ugifer says: Apr 6, 2011. 7:02 AM
This is great - thanks for the instructable.

I bought a cheap refurb Van de Graaff off e-bay and it arrived today. The thing is, the generator makes so much electrostatic wind that a plain plastic cup will turn in any case - no need for the foil!

I made my rotor using mylar film from a crisp-bag (chip-bag if you are American) and it seemed to work very well. Turned when the other end of the wire was about a foot from the VdeG. No need to actually contact the dome.
Kiteman (author) in reply to UgiferApr 6, 2011. 9:13 AM
Wow - how big is your VdG??
Ugifer in reply to KitemanApr 6, 2011. 10:53 AM
Nothing huge - dome is about 9". Makes maybe a 3" spark.

I think the friction on the cup is just so low that it turns with the slightest breath. Certainly you don't need to be anywhere near contacting the dome once its charged up to make it spin (that's the rotor with the mylar strips). It wil easily turn a plain cup by the wind it produces, but you need to contact the dome for that one.
Electroinnovation says: Apr 10, 2010. 9:32 AM
I just recently built something like this...and unfortunatly it is hard for me to find somewhere to ground my wire near my old tv. Would it be possible to build a sort of leyden jar or something to store the electricity then discharge the jar to my house plumbing later?
Kiteman (author) in reply to ElectroinnovationApr 15, 2010. 2:58 AM
You really need a decent "ground" for this to work.

If you only have a couple of feet of spare wire, find an extension lead.  Touch the plug end to your ground, and stick the spare wire into the socket end at your motor.

You could, though, charge the jar and then use it to run the motor...
matstermind in reply to KitemanAug 30, 2010. 3:36 AM
great way to accidentally electrocute yourself :D
Kiteman (author) in reply to matstermindAug 30, 2010. 3:48 AM
The VdG is much more fun.
matstermind in reply to KitemanAug 30, 2010. 4:06 AM
agreed
Electroinnovation in reply to KitemanApr 15, 2010. 3:29 AM
ohh ok thanks
rrpo_10 says: Mar 11, 2010. 7:48 PM
this is very hard i am electriacally shocked 5 times and still i can't make the rotor move....can you help me out??--- i use my tv and a foil and on the other part i use cold water with salt....yet it,s revolves but it is not continous....aarrgghhh this one is killing me!!!...pls help me guys
Kiteman (author) in reply to rrpo_10Mar 12, 2010. 6:56 AM
The cold water with salt is the problem.

Connect the the Earth (or "ground") instead.  Use a longer wire and touch it to bare metal on a cold-water pipe.  The container of water will charge up, but not allow that charge to flow away.  When it is as charged as the TV, the static will stop flowing, and the motor will stop.

magicmike5462 says: Feb 18, 2010. 8:51 AM
where do i connect the earth to
Kiteman (author) in reply to magicmike5462Feb 18, 2010. 12:24 PM
See Step 5 - any bare metal that is connected to the ground.  Plumbing is good.
azuro says: Jan 30, 2010. 7:41 AM
Neat work I must say.
Kiteman (author) in reply to azuroJan 30, 2010. 12:00 PM
Thank you.
impedance214 says: Oct 5, 2009. 1:16 AM
hey i try to used the tv as a source of static but it did not work.. do i need to cover large part of the screen to collect more static?
bears0 in reply to impedance214Jan 9, 2010. 9:21 AM
 it cant be plasma or flatscreen it has to be the big old tvs and the bigger the better

just in case you didnt know

:-D
Kiteman (author) in reply to impedance214Oct 5, 2009. 10:54 AM
Yes, that would help.
skatepark13 says: Jan 31, 2009. 4:04 PM
thanks for the help very neat
Kiteman (author) in reply to skatepark13Feb 1, 2009. 12:42 PM
You're welcome.
octavian234 in reply to KitemanDec 20, 2009. 1:05 PM
Kiteman is awesome!
Kiteman (author) in reply to octavian234Dec 20, 2009. 2:03 PM
Thank you!
arihant says: Dec 12, 2009. 8:46 AM
my motor does not rotate:(instead it gets attracted towards wire carrying static.now what can i do Mr Kiteman
Kiteman (author) in reply to arihantDec 12, 2009. 9:03 AM
How good is your "earth" or "ground" connection?
El Mano says: Dec 10, 2009. 6:41 PM
Does the cup have to be plastic, or can I put the foil on any thing that will turn?
Kiteman (author) in reply to El ManoDec 10, 2009. 11:24 PM
It must be an insulator, and light, which pretty well limits you to plastic, foam or paper.
arihant says: Nov 13, 2009. 6:08 AM
can it detect static in the air when thunderstorm comes?
Kiteman (author) in reply to arihantNov 13, 2009. 10:45 AM
I've never tried.  I guess, if you had a tall aerial for the input, and a good ground, but I'd be concerned about it attracting lightning strikes.
insistent says: Oct 24, 2009. 2:08 PM
flyback with a cfl driver doesnt seen to works. :(
Kiteman (author) in reply to insistentOct 24, 2009. 2:28 PM
Sorry about that, but I know nothing about flybacks.
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