Step 16: Buying and Selling Carts

I have been working on this design since the spring of 2004. I'm hoping people will be excited about making carts for themselves, but I know some people would rather buy them. If you need a cart and can't build it, email me, and I'll try to connect you with people making carts or build you one. They should cost $100 to $150, for parts and time. So far, carts might be available around Northampton, MA, San Francisco, CA, and San Diego, CA.

If you want make these carts to sell, go ahead, but please include a link to the Instructables page or a copy of the fabrication manual from bikecart.pedalpeople.com My goals are to increase car independence and empower people through fabrication in their communities. Let me know if you sell these carts, and what you think about this project. If you build a cart for yourself, let me know how it goes because I'm continuously working on the design and feedback is useful.

One of the more time consuming parts of cart fabrication is finding wheels and tires and making the plywood bed. One way to spread these bike carts might be to build and sell just the cart body, and let the user find and mount wheels and plywood.

If you want to make a bike cart but can't make a hitch, I will send you one for the cost of parts, postage, and the time for making it (cost is $20 in 2006. $6 for the hitch, $2 for metal stock, for $4 for postage, and the rest for time and gas). I want to increase the accessibility of this project. For more information, contact me at bikecart@riseup.net. These hitches are compatible with Bikes At Work trailers.
Hi! Im 13, and I desperately want to build a trailer. The problem is, I dont own a welding gun (Mainly because im 13) but my moms boyfriend is a carpenter, and I could probably convince him he could use one. If im lucky,he might get one by christmas. Then I could get the parts and make it by Febuary. way too much work. I dont think he would let me use it anyway and its not the same watching someone else build it. So even before I saw this, I decided that I would build a cheap, no-weld trailer. Any suggestions or tips?
if you were to weld make your sure you were a helmet. the bright light could burn your retina in 15 nanoseconds. thus causing you to lose ability to see.
"Wear" not "were" "god ppl learn English"
<p>I was a helmet, so watt deaf hook are you on about??</p>
Dude its people not ppl
I was quoting you:<br/><br/><a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-tell-different-grenades-apart/?ALLSTEPS">https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-tell-different-grenades-apart/?ALLSTEPS</a><br/>
Yeah, check out the plans for the "bamboo trailer" from carryfreedom.com/bamboo.html You'll have to email Nick for the plans. It's a lovely design, and fairly simple. You can build it from conduit, bamboo, wood sticks or poles, (i wouldn't recommend PVC)... Good luck.
If I were to use bamboo, where could I get it?
<p> In many places watch Craig's List under free stuff. Many areas have bamboo in excess and home owners will be thrilled to have you cut down bamboo for free. In Florida I even see the huge timber type of bamboo offered for free. That stuff can be better than five inches in diameter and up to 90 feet tall. In the eastern nations they build large buildings out of structural bamboo. You can also use bamboo covered with fiberglass or epoxy glass for even greater strength and super long life.</p>
what is a good cheap material that I could use since you said that PVC was not a good recommendation?
copper pipe no welding just soldering but its very expensive now but would be easy to use
This is a good suggestion for ease of costruction, though it would have to be for farely light loads, copper is rather soft. PVC is very sensitive to sunlight, it will scorch and become even more brittle than it already is. Aaron's right, it's a bad choice. Threaded piping/tubing is a good idea. Preferrably aluminum, though steal would work, it'd be very heavy.
I'd say fiberglass tubing would be a good substitute for bamboo. It comes in round and square.<br /> <br /> <br />
<p> Better yet a person can make their own fiberglass tubes easily with either glass and polyester resin or glass and epoxy resin. Cut your shape in polystyrene insulation, which cuts easily. If using resin you must coast the polystyrene with paper as resin will melt the foam. If using epoxy simply apply the glass and work in the epoxy. Any size, shape, weight or strength can be created. If you do use epoxy you want only white paint as summer heat can turn epoxy a bit soft if painted other colors. </p>
<p> PVC can break with no warning at all. Sunlight is one PVC killer. Accumulated stress is another. Common PVC is not structural PVC. You may discover that the price of structural PVC is a bit outrageous. Simply never trust PVC.</p>
<p> A good way to start is by using nut and bolt construction. If the trailer works well and you are satisfied tow it to a shop that has a good welder and pay him a few bucks to weld it together or simply keep an eye on your nuts and bolts as that method can make a long lasting and very repairable trailer that can be superior to welder units simply due to it being so very easy to change a worn or damaged piece. </p>
Aluminum is great. I had a friend in high school who's grandpa built him a trailer using the the 'L' shaped aluminum rod(angle iron). We used it for our surf boards for years. You can use screws to bolt it together. Be sure to use lock washers/bolts. You might also consider looking at reclaiming used material, such as rods from an old patio umbrella, lounge chair, etc. Good Luck and don't stop until you've got it!
You could probably build this same trailer using brackets and pipe fittings instead of welds. Though it may not be quite as strong, it should still be rather structurally sound.
<p>Anyone in NYC available to help me build one of these for an awesome Food Rescue Non Profit?! :) rescuingleftovercuisine.org -- expanding into Brooklyn and want to utilize a bike trailer! </p>
All very useful info, and I've sent reference to the ALLSTEPS to a number of people already. Kudos to the OP and to everyone contributing, whatever the angle; a great resource for velorutionaries. A few questions remain... What's the consensus on the use of muriatic acid - or similar - to make the welding of this conduit less noxious/toxic? Would the use of star-nuts and appropriate bolts and other findings make it possible to build the frame, complete with mitred joins, without welding? If not, could start-nuts and bolts be used contribute to/make for better/stronger joins for the welding? What is the practical limit of the radius of the curve for a given tube - e.g. the conduit referenced here - and how is that limit determined (other than via testing-to-disaster)? In other words, what's the smallest safe radius of a curve to give to conduit using the pipe-bending rig mentioned here? (The questions above are probing in the direction of bending and otherwise securing the longest-possible sections of the conduit so as to minimise the need for welding...) Where can information/discussion on camber be found? In particular, how to determine what limits there are for the degree of camber (positive or negative) when using spoked wheels in this application? And, on a related note, given that the trailer wheels don't take much side-loading, is more-than-moderate dishing of the trailer wheels worth the effort for the modest volumetric gains?
<p>Muriatic acid works. Heres some demos of getting it out of the inside and the outside.</p><p>http://hackaday.com/2013/08/19/on-not-getting-metal-fume-fever-with-galvanized-conduit/</p>
<p>I made this trailer and used 10 inch hand truck wheels so only needed 4- 10' 1/2inch conduit and I welded it all together with a flux core welder</p>
<p> Material availability is more and more of an issue in the US as well. Metal electrical conduit is about the only reasonably priced metal tubing in many areas. The prices in Home Depot for a common galvanized, steel pipe make me feel like I am buying gold. Copper and brass are off the charts and aluminum is as well. We are not even seeing hardwoods in Florida at sane prices. As less people are &quot;makers&quot; now than in years gone by the industry is not supplying components the way they once did.</p>
Thanks for great instructions, photos, sketches, and ideas. Just finished trailer using your plans with a few variations and it works great!<br/>Stick welded instead of brazed, used threaded tube, lubed and backed off one turn for swivel connection to tie rod end, and 20" tires. Have less than $18.00 invested!<br/>Thanks again!
Hey Aaron, great instructible, and good job with the documentation of the build.<br><br>I ordered a couple 14&quot; wheels from Surplus Center with the intention of making a bike trailer and wanted to pass along the link. They have over 2000 in stock, and they are cheap, durable, and non-pnuematic.<br><br>https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=1-2770&amp;catname=wheels<br><br>The only issue is that they are hub-less, and would need a well-greased axle (9/16&quot;, I believe), though long bolts would probably work just fine. The design of the cart also would need to be modified for the smaller wheels.
The neatest hitch idea I have seen yet is at this one - - https://www.instructables.com/id/Welded-bike-trailer/
These <a href="http://strollersstore.com/Bike-Trailers/" rel="nofollow">Trailers</a> are amazing to look and very useful
Really, MIG welding is fairly easy to learn. Especially if you braze, because you will already have practice watching the bead.
Here's a cart that started as a trash find. It was an InStep bike trailer I found in a neighbors trash. I welded in a couple of frame supports, changed the hitch, welded up the 3/4 emt tubing, added lights, works great. Crashbox. dog.house9@verizon.net
Crashbox, I am interested to know how you built the axle assembly for this trailer. It looks awesome! I have been creating plans for a trailer like the Y-frame that Carry Freedom builds but I can't seem to figure out how best to mount the wheels without building a 'wheel well'. I like the clean looks of yours.
Eric, Attached are pictures of the wheel mounts.
I would caution people about brazing the coated or galvinized metal. That stuff is extremely toxic, you don't want to breath any chrome! Other than that this is the most professional seeming DIY trailer I've seen. Good job. I build trailers with CrMo bicyclefamily.ca
Thanks for some inspiration!!! Because of this Instructable, I made my own trailer, viewable at <br /> <br /> http://undefined-macrolife.blogspot.com/<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks again, I will be making one from your design this week. I weld them, and am very much a beginner welder so the welds are ugly (getting better fast though). Anyone in the Olympia, WA area wanting one of these contact me through here or the link, I'll help you build one, it is fun.<br />
<p>So glad that you have this posted on instructables. I was going to make this cart a while ago and lost track of the instructions. It was the first thing that popped up when I&nbsp;googled EMT Bike Trailer. Thanks!</p>
What a great project! I've just cobbled together my first trailer from bits and pieces, it pales in comparison to your professionalism.<br/>Here are some photos. It was the hitch that flummoxed me the most.<br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/clockworkdoorbell/Trailer#">http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/clockworkdoorbell/Trailer#</a><br/>
How do I convert my salvaged rims that I have to bolt on one-side, instead of having to bolt them on both sides of the rim? Almost completed my 2 carts with a 225lb. each weight limit. I used a frame from 2 fold out lawn chairs that I had gotten from CVS for 90% marked down price :)
I dont wanna spend $35 per rim for these and i need 4 total :( <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200331764_200331764">http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200331764_200331764</a><br/>
Almost finished, just need a plywood bed and add some nylon washers to the hitch to stop a little rattle.
i think there is buffer between, just steel pin contact is very hard, not comfortable with bike rider
This is great, thanks for an awesome instructable!!!
this is fantastic! thank you! i've been playing around with trailers for some time. i've got a shabby wooden one right now that squeaks like an old rocking chair. i haven't really tried to max it out. . . it's still needs some finishing touches. this is a great instructable! i love the pictures too! - doug from somerville
you could mount that ball joint horizontally from the plate going to the left...and inside the ball joint, you could attach another ball joing going in the same direction that you have yours already in the picture...this would allow for movement up and down and left to right...that is if you have your ball joint freely moving within the tube that is attached to the bike
my cousin made one of these but with smaller wider wheels. it worked great.
You can get plans in PDF format from the original designer at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://bikecart.pedalpeople.com">http://bikecart.pedalpeople.com</a><br/><br/>Plans are very comprehensive. I built a slightly modified version of this last weekend, almost complete, very sturdy, looking forward to using it, see attached pic. <br/><br/>Uses 20&quot; bmx wheels instead and moved back to aid stability, details in the PDF version.<br/>
What an amazing idea. I've been thinking of all things I could use these carts for: haul my 7 cats around town (kidding), hook one to the back of my riding mower, modify a wheelbarrow... Could you design something like a wheelbarrow? It would have to be easy to push and pull up to (but not including) 100 pounds, easy to lift the handle and set it down, and of course built on 2 wheels. I have a few small hills in my yard and I am not very strong. Or could you design a cart for the back of my riding mower that does not need a ball and hitch devise to attach and remove? What a great instructable! Thanks so much for sharing this idea. Shyrell
Please don't encourage people to braze and weld EMT, or galvanized materials in general. Your plans are very nicely presented and I am glad you gave a thorough explanation of the health implications of vaporizing the zinc in galvanized coatings at high temperatures, but speaking as someone who has personally welded a considerable amount of EMT, and knows it can be done "safely" with some precautions, it is unnecessarily nasty, makes it harder to get good results and I wouldn't encourage others to do it. It's like encouraging people to work with asbestos fiber when they don't have to. EMT may be more readily available than most other steel tubing, but relatively cheap plain carbon thin wall tube can be had at steel supply houses if you are willing to buy their 20' stock lengths (nice places will make a free cut or two for you so you can carry it), or you can see if they have cutoff scraps. Metal recyclers and scrap yards are also likely to have something that would work. With clean, non-galvanized material it will be easier to get strong joints and rewarding results. Why fight the smoke and impurities in your joints? Bike trailer designs like this have been around a long time and are commercially available (Burley). This is a very nice presentation of how to make a trailer from inexpensive materials, but it is not terribly innovative, or very accessible for most tinkerers, because it requires brazing or welding. I know it is frustrating that the world has already thought of most our our great new ideas, but I think your intentions are in the right place trying to enable versatile human-powered transport with elegant designs that most people can build. Let's just make it more inclusive of people who don't weld and don't want to inhale zinc fumes.
I'm sorry, Howdy; I appreciate your honest comments, and while I agree that it it good to avoid zinc fumes where possible and that some other trailer designs are easier to build, I'm not sure I understand why you are using this forum to suggest that we NOT share ideas about DIY projects and sharing skills in fabrication and technology provision. I don't see anything in what I've written that suggests that people who don't know how to weld should not build bike carts, do you? I'm making one set of plans available for people who have these skills or want to learn. I also enjoy teaching people welding and brazing, which is something that I do alongside the free distribution of plans. In my opinion, this increases the accessibility of community technology provision way beyond bicycle trailers. I would be happy to hear any ideas that you had about making this more accessible, beyond simply not distributing plans that require brazing or welding.<br/><br/>Incedentally, the only heavy-load (200 lbs or more) cargo trailers that I've come across that are NOT welded are the aluminum Bikes At Work trailers ($400) and the Canadian company that drew from the same design and is comparably priced. In fact, all the commercial trailers of this hauling capacity that I've found are all over $300. I have no intention of preventing anyone from making a bike cart with old bike parts or bolted together pieces; in fact, I can direct you to other plans for smaller capacity trailers that do not require welding. For starters, there's the Cycle Circus design avaialble at <br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cyclecircus.org/images/colortrailer5.gif">http://www.cyclecircus.org/images/colortrailer5.gif</a><br/><br/>I've also included 2 photos of a bolt-together trailer that I have made instructions for, available in the fabrication manual download at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://bikecart.pedalpeople.com/plans.html">http://bikecart.pedalpeople.com/plans.html</a><br/><br/>And a bolted together conduit trailer here:<br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://drumbent.com/trailer.html">http://drumbent.com/trailer.html</a><br/><br/><hr/>On a technical note, you can bend 3/4&quot;, 0.035&quot; or 0.049&quot; wall thickness mild steel tubing on a conduit bender if you're careful about it, so if you want to use non-galvanized tubing, please do. It usually costs about $1.30 a foot, so this trailer would cost $65 in tubing, plus another $20 in parts. If you have health questions about zinc oxide, and if the increased price and weight isn't prohibitive to you, please try building with this material.<br/><hr/>I have one last comment: in my understanding of design, innovation is not only about the form of a product, nor just the form and the function, but it is also about the process. This is a design that focuses on the *process* of fabrication and on the connection between social and technological aspects.<br/><br/>I welcome any comments, from any readers.<br/>aaron<br/><br/>
Well met. Excellent Instructable, btw. I thought about using aluminum tubing for this design, but I don't have access to an arc welder. I may just go with the bolt-together route. I still intend t use this design if I can get the materials, will just need a bit of adaption for the fittings. IMO, this design is just fine for those of us who can't weld (do to skill or lack of tools). It just take a bit more work, and a few dollars worth of extra parts.
Oh, and of course<br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://re-cycle.org/trailer/instructions.html">http://re-cycle.org/trailer/instructions.html</a> <br/>as well for a bolt-together or welded trailer.<br/>
does anyone know the best place to get emt conduit in the uk? It seems that everyone uses PVC here. Is it known as something else? Can't seem to get it easily at all. Love the design, need to learn to weld anyway, seems like the perfect way to learn!

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