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For my weekend project, I built a big 8'x8'x7' loft from scratch in my apartment. I'll walk you through the process, garnishing the instruction meal with appetizing quips.
(and remember: Art is Wrong! http://www.artiswrong.com
 
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Step 1: What yer gonna do...

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So, this instructable is the epic saga of the construction of my new mighty loft at Fort Art=Wrong. It's longish, because I tried to take incredibly detailed pictures at every step of the construction, and after reading it, hopefully you can be a hero! Or at least build a loft...
(but you'll always be a hero in my heart)

(what am I talking about????)

(you can click the _next_ button now)

Step 2: Disclaimerish bit

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So, listen:
I want to impress on you two fundamental truths of the universe:

(1) There are two main schools of carpentry.
(2) I'm in the wrong one

I have no idea what I'm doing, I just make it up as I go along. What I did worked well for me, which is why I'm posting it. However, throughout this entire process, I had no idea what I was doing, and pretty much just camped out in my apartment for a weekend with a circ saw and a drill until something turned out right. What I'm trying to say is--don't take this instructable as holy writ. Change my steps! Experiment with your own structures and braces! Dance to your own whatever.

And oh yeah--good luck!

Step 3: Get the stuff together

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OK, so here's what you need (I'm reading this off the receipts littered around my bedroom, so I hope I don't miss anything...)

Wood:
4 4"x4"x8' trunks these are the main supports
4 2"x4"x8' stalks (for lack of a better general word for a long piece of wood) These give the loft its shape
7 2"x3"x8' stems You'll use these to make braces, and also supports for the plywood bed. Read steps
15 and 16 first--you may be able to get away with only 6 stems
2 4'x8' 1/2" plywood

Hardware: (home despot drastically overcharges for bolts. For the love of the Flying Spagetti Monster and all his oh-so-noodly appendages, buy your bolts at your local mom-and-pop hardware store! Support small businesses and don't get ripped off!)

8 1/2" x 6" bolts these hold the 2x4 stalks onto the 4x4 trunks
8 1/2" nuts
16 1/2" washers

8 3/8" x 6" bolts these hold your 2x3 stems onto the trunks
8 nuts
16 washers (duh)

28 3/8" x 5" lag screws Lag screws are basically big wood screws. Great for holding big pieces of
wood together. You'll use them to hold the stems onto things

a bunch of 3" drywall screws. Probably 20 or so

assorted other things:
(power tools)
Circ saw (sawzall would also work fine, as would anything else that cuts wood. Your call)
Drill

(things that go on the drill)
3/8" bit
1/2" bit --You're going to be drilling long holes. I used the flat drill bilts that were really long, and they
worked well. The normal bits I had originally weren't long eought

Bolt driver --Your lag screws should have a hex head. Get something you can mount on your drill that
can drive the screws. A ratchet set would also work...crappily. Do yourself a favor and get
the drill thingy. Otherwise you'll have a really tired arm and it'll be a huge drag
a philips head driver --to drive the drywall screws

(other things)
wrenches that fit the 1/2 and 3/8" nuts
Measuring tape.
Something that can draw a 45 degree line well. I bought a $10 saw and angle jig kit, which sucked, but at
least I could use it to draw the 45 degree lines I needed

Music. Get yourself some grooves from http://www.artiswrong.com/alex/mix rock on, bro

A joke ( I came up with this on a boat somewhere in the southern hemisphere):
Why didn't the man like to take his legless dog for a walk?

(it was such a drag!)

Also, you'll need a sense of humor that has the strength to withstand a barrage of my aweful awesome jokes,
Finally, you'll want to have a room to put this loft in and a pet monkey.

I lied, you don't really need the monkey.

But that would be cool, wouldn't it?

Step 4: Get the stuff the exciting way

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Every hard task is way cooler if you don't use a motor! Grab a bike trailer and a bike and haul the lumber yourself. You'll be totally herculean!
It's such a nerve wracking experience to haul a hundred-odd pounds of lumber with a wierd bike on a fast road. I'd hate the be hogging all the nervewrack. Help yourselves. Don't die


Really, I mean that.

about the not dying. I'd feel really bad.





Am I a terrible role model?





prolly omg roflcopter

Step 5: Take a shower

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If you did step 4
you'll feel better.
honest

I should also clean my bathroom mirror sometime

Step 6: But seriously, folks

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OK, enough of my self-indulgence.
Pile everything into the target room. Figure out how high the ceiling is. My ceilings are about 7'6", so I used the circ saw to cut my trunks (those are the 4x4s, remember?) to 7'

Figure out how much floor space you have
I had over 8' in one direction, and about 7'4 in the other. I kept two of the stalks(the 2x4s, eh mate?) at the normal 8' length, and cut the other two to 7'4

Remember, your stalks are gonna overlap your trunks, so just focus on the stalk length.



Also, this is wierd. My 2x4s were really like 2x3.75s, and my 4x4s were more like 3.75x3.75s. Is that normal? Or am I getting gypped out of killing perfectly good trees?

Step 7: Holy moly

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OK, time to drill some holes. Stick that 1/2" bit into yer drill, and start your engines!

First, I aligned one of my stalks with the top of a trunk. I used the measuring tape to pick out the center of the overlap, and drilled a 1/2" hole through both of them. I like to stick two pieces that need to be aligned on top of eachother when I drill, since I don't trust my measuring skills, which are sub-kindergarten.

I don't trust my cuts to be exactly square, so I kept the factory-cut end of the trunk on the floor, and put my cut on the top, which is where you're attaching the stalks.

Take a look at the drawing--what you're doing here is making the two sides of the loft.

Drill enough holes to make both sides. For those of you not following my obtuse description, you could
(a) whack yourself over the head wit da ugly stick till I make sense (I like this option...)
--or--
(b) take this advice.
You're going to drill 4 holes.
When you're done, you'll have two stalks, each with two holes, one at each end
AND
all 4 trunks, each with one hole at the top



Resist that temptation to bolt the bits together, cowboy.
you've still got step 8 ahead of you

Step 8: More holes

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OK, now you're going to drill the holes for the other stalks, which will give your budding loft its first squarish shape.
This is also where you set the height of your loft. I set mine at 5', which gave me some comfy headroom on top, and still made the underside navigable.

When you've figured out a good height, grab the two undrilled stalks and align them over the trunks at the height you want. Drill a hole at the center of the intersecting area. Also, be sure that you're drilling a hole on one of the faces of the trunk that doesn't already have a hole in it (these stalks run in a different direction than the ones you just drilled in the last step)

Look at the drawing here, too, if it's unclear. You're drilling holes to attach the stalks that will join the two sides of the frame.


Maybe the picture will help you get an idea of what you want to do.
I get a feeling it's worth more than a thousand of my words


Step 9: Bolt, bolt, bolt

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OK, now you can bolt stuff together. I'd recommend building one side with both of the cross-stalks and then line up the cross-stalks from the one side with the holes on the other, and bolt them together.

It should look like the thing below when you're done



Remember, you're using the 1/2" bolts
The bolts will probably be pretty tight in the holes. If you can't push them through by hand, give the bolts encouraging whacks with something like a hammer or a block of wood. Really, any form of thumping technology will do the trick, as well.

Step 10: Is it stable? Nope!

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Remember, the thing you just built is nowhere near stable (see how it's all leaningish in the picture?). Make sure it's leaning against a wall or something, or have a friend hold it while you go off and eat ice cream for hours.
Man, gobble some of that ice cream for me. We all scream, man.

Step 11: Ready, set, Brace!

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OK, so now we're going to brace the frame, which will make it stable.

The guy at the home despot told me that these types of braces are called sway braces. Maybe that means more to you than it does to me.


We're going to cut 8 braces. Get out that circ saw again, and dig up that thing you use to draw right angles


You're going to cut the trapezoid shape below out of the 2x3 stems. The angles are 45 degree angles.
There's no good rule (that I know. Keep in mind that I don't know anything about this, though...) for how long your braces should be. As I understand it, a longer brace will give you (I think) better leverage when the joint tries to move, so maybe longer braces make the structure sturdier, but I definitely know that they make it uglier. Eyeball it and figure out a length you like. I picked 17.5" for no real reason. It's a number that probably has absolutely _no_ significance in the zodiac.

I assumed when I told you how much stuff to buy that you'd be able to fit 4 braces onto one stem. If you can't fit that many, buy an extra stem or two.


To attach them to the frame, I lined up a 45 degree edge with the underside of the stalk, and then slid it along the stalk until the other 45 degree edge lined up with the edge of the trunk.
oh, yeah--MAKE SURE YOUR FRAME IS SQUARE BEFORE YOU BRACE IT.
otherwise it will be braced in a non-square position, which sucks.

Anyway, then I put a lag screw through the brace into the stalk, and drilled a hole through the brace and the stem and put a 3/8" bolt through that. The pictures might help you visualize it.

I'm pretty sure I put my lag screws in a dumb way. Tell me what a better way would be!

better yet, tell the people who are reading this by posting a comment. I already built my loft

Step 12: Intermission

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I went to bed after writing the last step.
I slept on my loft. It was really nice, but I rolled over onto my arm in my sleep and cut off the circulation, and when I woke up, my right arm was just flopping off my shoulder like a venemous python sinking its teeth into my clavicle. Pythons aren't venemous, you say? Just wait....

I dreamt about soup. Split pea soup. Which was really nice, but I was bummed when I woke up. Nothing worse than wanting soup and not having it.

Go eat some soup and listen to some soupmusic and continue.

I like this band called the Ditty Bops. Most excellent soupmusic!
ditty bop picture below!

Step 13: What have we done so far?

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Let's see what we have:
You should have a squarish frame that's fully constrained with a brace at every joint between a trunk and a stalk. It should be pretty sturdy. I did pullups off mine at this point, and crawled around on top of it to see if it would break. It didn't

Does yours look like that? Cool!

and I know that there's some extra cross-beams in the second picture. Sorry about that. I just jammed them in before I took the picture. Don't sweat it--you'll learn about those soon enough, child

Step 14: Floor supports

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Aren't you excited? It looks loft-ish, and it'll get more so.
Now we're going to put in 4 stems that will support the plywood floor. If you say to yourself, "I don't need floor supports, plywood is strong enough by itself," you will probably be finding a you-shaped hole in your floor pretty soon, and a you-shaped person on the floor, sheepishly rubbing your painful you-butt.

First, measure the distance between the inside of the two cross-stalks(these are the stalks that are at the height you decided your floor should be). Cut four stems to this length.
The best way I found to put these stems in is to line up the stem so that it's flush with the cross-stalk . A friend really helps with the alignment process, but it's possible solo. (I did all the loft construction by my lonesome, with the exception of wrangling the plywood up the stairs. My neighbor Diego helped me with that. More about Diego later...)
Anyway, line up your stem with the stalk. Remember that you're putting 4 stems in, so space them evenly. Be sure to put two of the stems at either end of the loft.
The best way I found to attach the stem was to put two lag screws running through the cross-stalk running at a slight angle into the stem. That's two lag screws everywhere a stem attaches to a stalk, and it's holding together well so far. I'll let you know if there's ever a me-shaped hole in anything....



(this next bit is talking about the picture, ok?)
Remember how I don't really know how to do anything? When I built this, I didn't realize I needed two more floor supports at the ends of the loft, which is why there's only two there. I put in my floor supports way later. Don't make my mistakes, man!

Step 15: Inter-stem supports

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Hooray! We're going to use the last piece of lumber. You should have one stem left over
What's going to happen in the next few steps is that we'll put the plywood on top of the floor supports.
As I'm writing this, I just realized that I laid my plywood the stupid way, which is why I had to put in these supports.

Here's what I did--
I laid my plywood parallel to the floor supports, rather than perpendicular to them. This left an edge of the plywood unsupported, so I had to put in extra braces.

Check out the picture. If you can, do it the right way, but it'll work fine either way, just a little more work for you if you did what I did.

Now that I think back, I think I put up my plywood the stupid way because I didn't have room to rotate it to the smart direction inside my apartment.


OK, this step has been long and rambly, but it's kinda important. To keep your rapt attention, I'll split it up and put the rest of it on the next step. That's a trick some writers use*, where they start a sentence at the end of one chapter, and finish it at the beginning of another.













*actually, no one does that

Step 16: More about the inter-stem supports

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OK, you've now heard my tale of folly. Here I'll tell you what I did to put in my inter-stem supports, but you don't have to do this if you're running the plywood perpendicular to the floor supports. Of course, it doesn't hurt....

So, measure the distance in between the two center-ish floor supports. The drawing below will hopefully clarify


I attached these by putting a single lag screw straight through the two stems, wherever they meet together. It holds pretty well so far. Yes, it's not fully constrained, and the inter-stem supports could conceivably rotate, but I didn't have any more lag screws, and the plywood will fully constrain it when we put it on.


Are you done?
sweet




and yeah, I know there's plywood in the picture, and you haven't done plywood yet. I forgot to take a picture of this step before I put on the plywood, mainly because I put on the plywood before I realized I needed to do this. waddayagonnado?

Step 17: Go get the plywood

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It's so much cooler to bring back plywood on a bike. I built a cheap bike trailer out of conduit that let me do just that. I even made an instructable on it. Check it out!
For those of you who are adventurous enough to try biking back plywood, I found that if you take along two C-clamps, clamp the two plywood sheets together, and then attach the clamps to your bike frame with inner tubes, the plywood hold on pretty well. I also ran an inner tube around the plywood and trailer, to keep the plywood from blowing around.

I'm pretty sure that the line between cute and stupid lies between towing this trailer with a normal bike, and towing it with a tall bike. I crossed it. EIT!

Step 18: Wrangle the plywood

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This is really hard to do, especially if it's just you. If you need a hand, walk around your neighborhood, knock on the door of someone you haven't met yet, and ask them cheerfully if they want to do some menial labor. I did this, and met Diego, who's a cool astronomy student from Chile.

Anyway, we wrestled the plywood up my stairs, and into my apartment. The room I'm putting the loft in is about exactly the size of the loft, so getting the plywood onto the loft was hard. I ended up taking out one of the floor supports, and we wrangled it up through the inside of the loft.

Put both sheets up on the floor supports, and don't worry that they don't both fit. Just stack them on top of eachother for now, or better yet, just make them overlap. We'll fix the fitting problem in the next step

Step 19: The last time you'll ever use a circ saw

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So, now you want to wrangle the plywood some more, so that it covers as much of the floor as you want it to. Make sure the plywood sheets overlap in the center, and then take a writing device and mark the overlap on one of the sheets.

Now, kinda shove or tilt the unmarked sheet out of the way. Make sure it's stable, because you're about to climb up and saw stuff, and you don't want it sliding into you while you're sawing.

Now, I climbed onto the loft, being sure to stay on the supports, and circsawed the marked sheet along the line I marked. This was probably way more dangerous than it should have been. The prudent reader will take the plywood off of the loft, set it up on sawhorses, and cut it in a safe and sane manner.

Anyway, now that you've cut up one of the sheets, they should fit flushly on your floor supports.
Are you excited? You're almost done!






Right after I took this picture was when I realized I needed those inter-stem braces. See how the plywood's drooping here? yuck!

Step 20: Drive, baby, drive!

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grab that pack of drywall screws and a bit driver for your drill and climb up on top of the beast.
Make sure your plywood floor is aligned the way you want, and then crawl around screwing the plywood to the floor supports everywhere you can. This will (a) hold the plywood onto the loft, which is kinda crucial, and (b) fix any warps that your wood has. Mine was really warped, and now it's as flat as a plateau in kansas.
The hardest part here is figuring out where the supports are underneath the plywood. I just kinda guessed, missed a few times, and then usually got it right. You could probably measure and stuff, if you're into that kinda thing.

Step 21: Admire your gorgeous hunka loft

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Isn't that cool?
Put some stuff on top of it and move on in!




here's a joke:

What do you call a man in the middle of the ocean with no arms or legs?



Bob.

Step 22: Clean up

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Borrow your neighbor's vacuum to clean up. Return it, and explain that you're concerned about the amount of human blood you found inside it. Give her a book with this cover to help her out.

Anyway, you're done! Hooray! A wonderful loft in 22 steps.

Happy dwelling!

Alex Hornstein
http://www.artiswrong.com

Step 23: Shameless plug

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I hope you liked this instructable. If you like this, or other instructables that I've done, email me to let me know at enjrolas@mit.edu
Also, (this is the shameless bit) you should check out some of the project kits I'm selling at http://www.artiswrong.com/kits
This is something I started to support my building habit. I'll be adding more kits as time goes on. In general, I spend every penny I make on projects (or traveling to cool places), and if you help me out by giving me more pennies, you'll get a kit (duh) and also more cool projects in the future, which I'm very happy to post on instructables for your building pleasure.
Maybe I'm way off base here. If so, email me and tell me that, too.

Happy happy,
Alex

http://www.artiswrong.com
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leevonk9 years ago
are you going to be able to stand up anywhere in your room or are you just going to scoot around on a wheeled office chair? :)
prank (author)  leevonk9 years ago
I'm a scootin tootin rockstar hoo doggie well, I'm off for another exciting bout of jittery pocket, or whatever the hell radio rental keeps talking about it
see.. once you get out of miters for a while.. maybe take up kitesurfing at poobay and meet some hot chicks (or not so hot chicks) you'll nod wisely at this sage and never ponder another word that passes his keyboard.
prank (author)  radiorental9 years ago
Hot Chicks.... let's see. I think I heard about those somewhere Does National Semiconductor sell them?
no, thats ibm's power pc you're thinking of. I was refering to the big mysterious warehouse located in subterranean cambridge that holds a wide selection of deliciously clad hotties. Doors open at the first sign of summer in boston and theyre then gathered back up in the fall to be replaced with fully clothed ice maidens with 'tude for the winter. Every city I've lived in seems to have a summer hotties warehousing dept. Like the chane of the seasons or the ebb and flow of the tide its just one of life's mysteries.
You should live down here in south Florida, summer starts about the middle of January and runs through the middle of December. all the rest is fall and spring. the schools are good to
"the schools are good to" mmm...i see....you meant "too", right?

to = also

Too = excess

two = comes after one

schools are good... except for **cough** the public schools... we were again rated damn near the bottom of the barrel (as far as public education goes)....

The Universities are another story though :P Home is in S. Florida for me -- but I go to school in central... I do enjoy only having maybe two days of actual winter :P
I'll check in with the 'mangement' to see if we should move for that sole purpose or not...
prank (author)  radiorental9 years ago
ice maidens, eh? they just melt my heart...
Boppylop2 years ago
AWESOMENESS! We're moving to a new house at the end of the year, and I wanted to do something cool with my room...
dimtick3 years ago
this comment is coming late to the game. probably been said before in all the other comments but i don't have time to go thru them. sorry if this is a repeat.
your joints are a little over complicated. instead of using 2x4's for the perimiter, use 2x6's. 2x6 gives you room for 2 carrage bolts and eliminates the need for the diagonal braces. use 1/4" diameter bolts. they're more than strong enough and easier to work with than 1/2" bolts. if you notch the 2x6's into the 4x4 posts then you don't need bolts. (3) 2 1/2" screws in each joint will be more than strong enough. to notch the 4x4 simply set your circular saw to 1 1/2" depth. lay the 2x6 on the 4x4 and mark the top and bottom edge. make a series of cuts with the circular saw at about 1/2" spacing then wack out the scrap with a hammer. see photo. at first it seems hard but it's really a very simple joint. it's very strong because all the loads are transferred directly to the post, eliminating the need for carrage bolts, and it's very stable and wont wobble.

you can still use 2x4's to support the plywood platfform. instead of doing the middle cross pieces, simply run (2) 2x4's together that will support the plywood edge. for each plywood should have a 2x around the edge and (2) intermediates (16" o.c.). so you need a total of (4) 2x6's and (6) 2x4's.

since this was posted in 2006 i'm sure that this loft is long gone and you guys have moved on with your lives. i wanted to comment anyway so anyone else planning on a loft may find the comment helpful.

another trick is to screw leveling feet into each 4x4 post. it'll keep the post from damaging the floor. with older buildings (and far to many new ones) the floors aren't level so the feet will help to stabalize the loft.
http://www.amazon.com/T-Nut-Cabinet-Furniture-Levelers-4/dp/B0037MKJ2M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316784179&sr=8-1

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I decided to make a smaller loft, similar to some others I found here on Instructables, but used your clever notching process to rather good effect. I put the notches two feet down a 4x4 post, and since I measured carefully, the 2x6 fits snugly into the notch, wedged in top and bottom, with a carriage both to secure it! Built this for my kids to occupy when they come stay with me. They're going to LOVE it, thanks to you! Thank you, and thank the OP!
Kelp_horse3 years ago
I envy your high ceilings.
lingg3 years ago
The idea of building a structure within a rented room makes sense. Instead of fixing up the landlord's space, focus on your cube. you could add hammocks, hanging chairs, shelves, fold out table, a projector for your flicks on a screen that doubles as a space divider. When evicted or exiled, disassemble like a yurt for the next rental/squat.
patron_zero3 years ago
Nicely done project !

Back in my college days I built many similar structures, may I suggest the inclusion of deck-joist hanger type hardware to enhance the strength of the joins and assure the true alignment of such.
howDoIt4 years ago
youre right about the picture, it helped a lot. thank you!
heidioc4 years ago
how much did all of this cost you, approximately?
heidioc4 years ago
love your sense of humor, dude. Thanks for the book cover.
triumphman4 years ago
I built one of these in my Apt. in Burlington, Vermont. I think I used 6x6 upright beams.Not sure though. Too long ago. It was a smokey time in the 70's. Nice job. Love your bicycle transport thingy. How far did you have to go from the Lumber yard to your place ? Cool, that's saving gas and getting exersize at the same time! Awesome dude!
lady tradey4 years ago
love your style - this loft bed totally rocks! and of course you gotta have good music to listen to while you do a project like this.

also, love that you have your bits of wood lying on your mattress as you prep for building -
unless people have lived in TINY or awkward spaces they have no idea how there's no space while you're building something that will give you more space!

you've inspired me- I CAN make my tiny little room into a bedroom!

thank you
blaineak5 years ago
correct  2x4s and 4x4s  and 1x6s and 2x12s  are never actually those dimensions,  they used to be but they are not any more,  it has something to do with the finishing process,  it is so they wont rot or bow as quickly if i am not mistaken
shooby blaineak4 years ago
Correct. Initially, members are cut true to their dimensions. The fresh (wet) wood needs to be cured (dried) however, which results in warping, bending, bowing, etc. After this has occurred, the members are planed into more techtonically agreeable forms.

Site note: The difference between the nominal and actual dimensions of lumber is increasing (in the U.S.) because we've used up all of our good quality wood. As a result, we now use wood that grows faster so it is cheaper but not as strong, and deforms more severely when curing.
OruKun4 years ago
you made your bike trailer too....NICE!!!!!!!!!
naomi14314 years ago
Ah! I have that chair in a wavy gray. Got it at the thrift store for $6. Love it. :)
zigzagchris4 years ago
hmm if my room wasnt 5 feet tall at the walls this would be awesome
StuNutt4 years ago
THAT bike is NOT pink!

(did you paint the bike during the same weekend ;) ?
prank (author)  StuNutt4 years ago
two different bikes, yo!
StuNutt4 years ago

Can that bird in the picture ride a bike-trailer?
StuNutt4 years ago
That's sooooo PINK!
c3r44 years ago
that really is one weird as hell bike...
Milwaukee FTW!!!
It looks like you put the bolt on one end through horizontally and on the other end vertically. I think the brace would be stronger if you could put both in horizontally. But to do this you would need to have the surfaces where the brace attaches be in the same vertical plane, which is where the suggestion about recessing the stalks into the trunks someone made on a previous page would come in handy.
lunarman525 years ago
how sturdy is it

This is awesome. You are hysterical also, I love you! Thank you for posting this.
mishnish5 years ago
What about a guy with no arms and legs under a bundle of leaves?

Russel!
toprope5 years ago
You could eliminate a lot of possible "racking", boards twisting around the bolts, by making several cuts in the 4x4 w/circular saw, 1 1/2 inches deep and the width of 2x4. Then with a chisel and hammer, remove the cut pieces. It sounds very involved but is very simple and makes for a much stronger connection. Basically you are recessing the 2x4 into the 4x4. For a cleaner look without much trouble you could drill some holes that would let you recess the bolts into the 4x4 and 2x4.
This thing is seriously built, if it's in a position where it CAN rack it's already breaking.
chavhaha5 years ago
Your cuts would be square if you used a miter/table saw, but if it was a hand-held circ. they probably weren't.
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