Introduction: Body-Mod: Elf Ears

Picture of Body-Mod: Elf Ears

Here are some pictures of a body mod my friend did to her ears. Elf Ears. Looks pretty sweet and cool, i just dont know if I would do something like this, and no, you really shouldn't do this yourself in any way, shape, or form.

Pictures are of my good friend (and posted with her permission) Kimmie.

Link to her lj

She did it with the help of Body Modification Artist, Russ Foxx

(I dont know if this truly counts as a Slideshow.. if not let me know and I will put up as a forum topic or something)

Notes to remember on Body Mods...

First of all, you shouldn't do any sort of modification (including piercings, branding, implants, tongue splicing, ear pointing, ect.) as a rash decision. You should always look at your body and decide if what you want to do would enhance your body in the right way right now and in 20 years from now. You also want to make sure it will look good. I recommend to fake it for a few days, using magnets to simulate piercings, water pads for implants, fake elf ears, and so on.

Be sure you are comfortable with what you are wanting. Faking it for a good week or longer helps to determine how you will like the mod after you are done. It is also a good time to see how other people's reactions will be and how you react back.

Choose a body mod artist that is knowledgeable and experienced. Research the artist before you go, and try to get in touch with people the artist has worked on before, to get a sense on the quality of the artist's work. Make damn sure everything is clean and sterile.

Do not be a guinea pig. If the artist tells you that they have something new they would like to try on you for a lower fee or whatever, politely say "No Thanks." If this happens to you, I would recommend to go to someone else unless you have alot of trust in said individual. Still, reinforce that you want what you want and will pay what was agreed upon, using agreed upon procedures.

Make sure you also know what the laws are for what you are going to have done. Tongue Splitting is considered a Medical Procedure in many areas and your artist will need the credentials to do it. Just be knowledgeable in what you are about to have done.

It doesnt pay to pretend to be an age that you are not, nor to show up to the procedure drunk or taking medications. If you are underage, the artist may do harm to you and your body due to blood vessels and arteries not being where they should be on someone of the appropriate age.

Use proper aftercare procedures to take care of your mods. Do what your artist recommends to take care of what you had done. If you start to have problems with something, do not hesitate to talk to your artist and if necessary, see the artist to have something redone or fixed.


austinwebdesign (author)2016-04-27

!ouch! There must be a less painful way

elliotnash (author)2015-07-06

Wow, kinda useless tutorial if you ask me. I've nothing against the girl, but if you're going to alter your ears like that you better be sure you like elfs to the end of your life. Otherwise one day you'd be terribly sorry.

Body piercings are a whole different matter as they can be easily removed while a procedure such as this cannot. This tutorial reminds me of that trend scarring as body art. Frankly that's a little too extreme, for my tastes.

dchall8 (author)2008-05-16

Another note on body mods: Don't do it unless you are absolutely sure that your life long career goal is to serve fried chicken to tourists. Her elf ears, nose piercing, and tattoos will close the door to many career opportunities on what might have been a road to success. Nobody will tell you that to your face but its true. Even tiny body art that is only visible when you are at the swimming pool is a career killer. I know people who will not even rent an apartment to you if anyone living with you has body art/mods. And I know an attorney who cannot get a job in her profession because of the tattoo on her lower back. She started a business delivering legal docs between attorneys - a sad waste of education and intelligence.

X4i5 (author)dchall82015-02-19

a) don't wear nose rings, lip rings, etc. to work
b) make sure your clothes cover any tattoos
c) cover your ears with your hair
d) do I really need to continue? you get it, right?

Quit brainwashing people to make them think mods are bad and will ruin your life- they wont!

Zephyr_Elf (author)dchall82010-02-13

Not everyone wants to have a job as a number in some gigantic business. I have had my ears surgically pointed- and plan on many other modifications including stretching my labret to 12mm and getting my conches punched out. Why? Because it is what makes me happy. Working for some giant lawfirm or corporation where you have no choice but to think, look and be as everyone else is actually my idea of complete hell. I have had an education- I finished high school and many diplomas and am on my way to university. 

As I was saying- not everyone is going to have a job at some lawfirm working 9-5. My love for body modifications has obviously transcended want for a "normal" job- I work as a body piercer and I absolutely love it. The girls I work with have had subdermal implants, scarification on their faces, but you know what? We all work and get paid above award rates for what we do- its a comfortable living and we look the way we want to. Society needs to acknowledge and accept that modifications are becoming more mainstream and to go with it. Are pointy ears SERIOUSLY going to affect the way you can work and fulfil your jobs? I don't think so- its just losers who can't get past aesthetics, which to me, is pretty damn petty.

Furthermore, are you going to blame the tattoo for that woman losing her job or the completely arsebackwards way society views people who fulfil their desires to make their body look the way they want?

Mirime (author)Zephyr_Elf2010-06-28

ah but at my moms job at a hardwere store a girl got turned down for a job that she was very qualified for because she had a small rose on her upper arm. the rose was in memory of her mom that died from cancer. the guy that got the job turned out to a creeper

grimmorrigan (author)dchall82010-04-26

   Wow, did we get in the Way Back Machine or what?  Yes in many fields appearance counts.  Its the side effect of our image conscious society.  dchall8's comment is general and narrow, but sadly occasionally accurate.   There are those who will discriminate against those who differ from the societal norm.    Its not limited to body mods, weight, gender, and race also play into these roles.  Also, as many have pointed out not everyone is interested in looking normal and there are many field where a modified appearance is accepted and desirable.  As for the story about the lawyer who lost her career because of a small back tattoo, this event either happened a decade ago or she lost her job due to other circumstances.  dchall8 your warning is something to consider for those wanting to have body mods, but the outlandish stories and scare tactics do not usually work on those who are secure enough to have these procedures done.

octalpus (author)dchall82010-03-23

Wow, if that isn't the most misguided and ignorant comment I've ever seen...

I have a lip piercing that leaves a visible hole even if my jewelry is out. I have a tattoo covering about 25% of my calf. I have several unconventional ear piercings including an orbital that gives one of my ears a pointed appearance. 

I am a director at a Fortune 500 company. This company is not in tech, entertainment, or any other industry known for its unconventionality. At 32, I am one of the younger directors in the company. I am also female. I didn't get this job because of or in spite of my appearance. I got it because I'm damned good at what I do.

monkeeeee001 (author)dchall82009-06-17

This is often not the case, however modded people often have to work harder to get desirable jobs.

ILOSN (author)dchall82009-06-11

Some of us aren't in the least bit interested in the mediocre 9 to 5 carrier life. You can have it - be part of the 99% of boring worker drones. But don't bash the ones who have freed themselves from that.

nekoheehee (author)dchall82009-03-05

wow, that is a very old fashion way of thinking. I can almost guaranty if she where to get an interview for any major video game/ digital entertainment studio (given she had the talent) she would have no problem getting a job. it may even enhance her chances. its a little less likely that she could she would get a job at a law firm, but chances are if your going to get a serious or even moderate body mod your not the type of person to want that job.

the world is being taken over by young people and the old people are just getting older. my generation and even generations above mine are looking to the new and "strange" in a way that frightens the older generations.
example, I'm and animator. I wore a tail to my interview for an ad agency. it was a simple tail that attached to my belt and matched my hoodie. most people my age would at least not mind it and some compliment me on it. the man that was interviewing me (a man in his late 30s and owner of the agency) wanted me to start the next day. the tail expressed a bit of my creativity and outward thinking, which he though was great and necessary for the job. before getting the job and the compliments on the tail he asked me something like "aren't you nervous about wearing a tail to a job interview?" to which I replied "I'm an animator. what did you expect?"

sure there are still people running things from the older generation who are going to make a fuss over things like ink and mods, but there on their way out and a creative mind is a hot commodity now a days.

and on a side note, why didn't any of the people you know sue? personal life decisions like body art, when it doesn't effect anyone like customers or other employees, are not grounds for career termination. seriously, its closer to grounds for legal action and is 100% discrimination.


austin (author)nekoheehee2009-06-02

yeah you can sue but you cant win, a job interview could not accept you on many terms not just tails or ears, You say they didnt hire you because your ears they say they didnt hire you because your person skills. Its so subjective it is impossible to prove that you were discriminated against based on a body mod.

wiccanman82 (author)dchall82009-03-01

I would really like to know were you live because I can't think of one place in the USA like that were are you in haiti or something???

jproffer (author)dchall82009-02-06

And where exactly is this - in Nowhere, USA where the average age is 65?

jannathegreat (author)dchall82008-10-25

Who says that a "successful" career path has anything to do with anyone who cares about holes in your face or ink in your skin? I would consider myself pretty successful, and I have 3 piercings in my nose alone. I've never had to deal with anyone turning me away because of my modifications. Then again, I'm not exactly working at a law firm. Still, though, it's not okay to be narrow minded and not open your eyes to see the changing of the world around you; the Leave It To Beaver generation is dying out, and with them, the scared/surprised/disgusted-at-something-they've-never-seen mindset. Just a few words to chew on, dchall8. I guess the moral of the story is that open mindedness isn't just a trend of the younger generations; it's an overtaking of society as we know it and it's more and more evident every day.

Zibalba (author)jannathegreat2009-01-31

I see as you say people shy away from mods and ink as employers but reality is that day is fading. People see my ink and enjoy it not dislike it. Besides one must define success before judging to many success is happiness and through self expression they acheive happiness. dchall8 all im sayin is openminded is the new way try it you might like it. The generation of discrimination to self expression is gone.

Chicken Buddha (author)dchall82008-08-06

I beg to differ. I have facial piercings AND tattoos and work as a high-level manager at a Fortune 500 company. If you're good at what you do, you can do whatever you want. Even when I shaved my head, my boss said nothing more than "Nice!" It sounds like you're projecting your own prejudice on other people.

red-king (author)Chicken Buddha2009-01-19

I think people should get to know people for who they really are. not just how they look. (that sounded a bit cliche...)

sparky23 (author)dchall82009-01-14

no one needs your negativity and predjudice.

Gort (author)dchall82008-08-06

Whether you like dchall8's comments of not there is some truth to them. BUT I think what age or generation you are has an enormous impact on how you see people who do body mods etc. In our line of work we work directly with the public and many of our clients are older men or woman who have cut hair and wear ties. They have no earrings or facial jewelry or body mods. Like it or not the people in our company who directly deal face to face with these clients do not have body mods. Tattoos are fine if they are not visible. It is not about right or wrong or what should be allowed or not. I think its about the views of a generation that did not even think of doing the things to their bodies that people do today. My personal opinion is if you can do you job well that is all that matters. In my neighborhood there are a couple men i see occasionally at the market who have tattoos covering their face and ears and they would not have a prayer of working at my company. We have younger people who have tattoos and earrings because that is the world we live in and that is OK. They are excellent employees and will remain as long as they do their jobs.

chriskarr (author)Gort2008-11-02

I'd have to agree with you, Gort. I don't personally have any body mods, other than from an accident involving barbed wire, but I know that, around where I live (Oregon), you can get plenty of respectable jobs with tattoos and piercings. I also know, however, that even the trade my dad works in (pipe-fitting) wouldn't work with people with piercings or even long hair. One time my dad got too close to a tool while it was running and it sucked his hair in and ripped off a chunk of his scalp. Now he has a small bald spot. Needless to say, his hair is now kept short. My brother, who is in the same trade, has his hair cut bald/near bald constantly. While in some occupations tattoos, piercings, and body mods are acceptable, in others they aren't. In employment positions I'm pursuing, they are perfectly acceptable. I plan on being self-employed, and I plan on dealing with clients electronically. Yay for internet! (except for stalkers, pedophiles, and other perverts)

bearshark (author)dchall82008-05-16

how unfortunate our close-minded society is. Your body choices shouldn't affect your career potential.

Excepted if they are the reflects of a psychological instability.

For instance, couldn't someone with an irreversible body-mods be legitimately labelled as a short-sighted person ?

How can changing your body be viewed as being short-sighted? I'm pretty sure when someone does an irreversible body mod they know it's irreversible. I'm sure some thought goes into it, and consideration for finding it a regret later on. Surely you're not extending the phrase "short-sighted" as a way to say "stupid," are you?

> How can changing your body be viewed as being short-sighted?

For instance, when you irreversibly modify your body when you're 20, how can you be sure you will not have regrets when you'll be older ? (it's like tattooing "I love forever you Paola" on your arm just because you're currently in love with your girl-friend Paola.)
Also, when you surgically modify your body, you take a non-necessary risk for your health. Surgery is a strong body aggression that may lead to horrible scares and to infections.

Those two behaviours may be seen as clues of "immaturity" or "instability" : you don't care about long-term, and you like to take unnecessary risks.
I doubt that's what most employers looks for.

And when I said "short-sighted", I said "potentially immature" or "not enough prudent" or "not far-sighted" or "potentially superficial" or "potentially impulsive" ... That's all the characteristics that generally make most employers prudent about a candidate ...

I completely understand your argument and have heard it several times over. But to me--the risk of regret for marrying Paola and tattooing her name on your arm carry the same weight. And removing her from both your arm and marriage carries the same weight in pain. We take risks and unnecessary risks all the time in life; like biking to work or long boarding down a big hill. But we do them after measuring our love for it (or whatever other reason) versus the risk. That's just how it is. We do it all the time. People may not understand why someone chooses to do what they want, but that's their right to choose to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect someone else adversely. Like country music--that's a risk I'm not willing to take nor one I'll ever understand people listening to, but I do understand we're all different. Ha.

Comparing marriage with tattoo, and body-mods with "every day activities" is not serious ... ;o) I'm sure you knew that when you wrote it. In the example I gave, the tattoo can be seen as a proof of love, like would be a wedding. You're right on that point. However, cancelling a wedding is mainly an administrative task, while removing a tattoo is surgical (and involves, thus, to take again an unnecessary risk with your health) ... Biking (or simply going by car, by bus or by feet) to work is necessary and is part of the everyday normal life, while going to surgery to split your tong in two, to pierce your ears, your face or your privates parts is unnecessary dangerous ... Body-mods looks "cool" and are "exciting", but it's not comparable to the "natural" risks we are all forced to take in our everyday life ... Of course, there must be plenty insane things that a lot of peoples do or like to do and that are not visible or detectable by any eventual employer : things are not always like they appear to be after all ...

Because taking a risk to do something you really, really want is wrong, whereas if it's something you have to do, that's okay? Where's the sense in that? Don't you live for living? Or is it all about the grind for you? I'm sorry but divorce is far more than just an "administrative task" anyone who has ever been in love knows that. Getting married and having children is a huuuuge life changing event, far more so than any tattoo.

Indeed. Well argued and an agreeable conclusion.

Pkranger88 (author)bearshark2008-05-16

You compare losing your love to getting rid of a tatoo. Now that's short-sightedness. True love is much deeper than skin. And anyone who's experienced it would give their skin to keep it. Your argument is debunked buddy. Most of the people I know with tatoos have expressed regret at some level for one of their tatoos due to the spontaneity in which they got it and the foolishness it represents. And I'm in the military. You know how many people in the military have body mods? More than the representation of the general public. As for country music, how narrow-minded...

So, getting a tattoo is a reflection of psychological instability? I'd better tell my mom the tattoo on her butt (that she didn't get until she turned like 50) means she's crazy. By your logic, almost everyone is crazy, because tattoos aren't removable excepting painful and expensive laser removal. And some body mods aren't irreversible. I mean, I think some extreme mods, like the tiger guy, or stuff people do to their genitals is weird, but it's not my place to judge them. Just because not everyone chooses to live like you, doesn't mean they're insane, or bad people. I don't know, maybe you should actually talk to someone with a body mod before you assume anything about their mental state or personality. And not just one person, a lot of people. Because a lot of people do body modding and it's getting really big. I'm sure someone said the same thing once about women wearing pants. "That woman is insane! she thinks she's a man!" Get my drift?

jasontimmer (author)dchall82008-08-05

A lower back tattoo ruined her career? Was a strip search part of the interview? Seriously, get real. I've got plenty of tattoos, a couple on my wrists, one armband, etc. And I am a gainfully employed registered nurse at a good hospital. If I go in for an interview somewhere else, I wear long sleeves. It's no problem.

cindi (author)jasontimmer2008-08-09

I am also a registered nurse working in a federal hospital and there are many girls with visible tats. No one seems to care. I only have one visible piercing -left ear helix. I also have both nipples and navel done but I don't show those obviously. The doctor saw my navel during my hire-on physical but he didn't blink an eye. I just don't think it's that big a deal anymore.

nix0n (author)dchall82008-05-24

I'm going to have to politely disagree with you on that one. While a professional look has always given a corporation that sense of security about ones personal character, as a hiring manager for Apple, Inc. I can tell you that the way you dress is the absolute LEAST of our worries. Lots of companies are now looking for what you know, how you learned it, and what you can bring to the company. I hate to bring in a television show into the discussion, but look at NCIS. Pauley Perrette plays the part of a forensic specialist, and it's not the fact that it's a television show - but merely the idea of our culture growing to accept people that DO look different. You know that whole thing about not judging a book by its' cover? The individual that commented below about Alvar Saenz-Otero, is dead on. Your personal choices in life are having less and less of an impact of your professional life. Times are changing, good sir. Times are changing. Oh, and I forgot to mention as a hiring manager for Apple, I have a bright red mohawk, and three piercings. Snakebites, and my eyebrow. Why did Apple hire me, and trust me to do the hiring for them? Because I know what I know, and they don't discriminate against individuals that like to poke holes in their body (it's not any of their business).

stimps (author)nix0n2008-08-07

I want to work with you and bear your children. =D

jaysbob (author)nix0n2008-05-24

although, its not as if apple isn't trying to cultivate a young hip image. Apple is probably more of the exception than the rule. your points are valid though.

nix0n (author)jaysbob2008-05-25

Originally, it was. Still kind of is, but it's more portraying an image of 'Family' and 'Real People' as opposed to the tight-knit suits. It's beginning to appeal to normal people like you and I. You're right though, there's still a very large portion of Apple appealing to the younger generation. It still is a corporate environment though. I still have to meet with "the suits". =D

gfixler (author)dchall82008-05-24

I respect your opinion dchall8, but I personally find it very limited, and frankly, completely wrong, at least in my experience. Yes, it will shut some doors, but anything will do that. I have a beard, and long hair sometimes, because I go for awhile between shaves, and haircuts. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would overlook my qualifications because of that, or perhaps because I'm overweight. Prejudice is everywhere, unfortunately. It's actually very mildly, and thankfully only occasionally experiencing prejudice like that which has enabled me to look beyond many of the 'strange' things in others, and see more of the real person beneath.

A lot of what you're saying is regional. I can imagine areas in the south, where people can be characteristically a bit more intolerant about odd ducks, where this might cause troubles (I've been there, I've seen/felt it), but I went to art school in Florida, and was surrounded by body-modded people, many of whom brought those body mods with them to very lucrative, and successful careers. One artist in particular has lots of piercings, and X-rated tattoos all around his entire arms, and still has landed very big work with celebrities, and in magazines like Maxim, and has his own training CDs for his art style. His best friend in college followed a similar suit, and got lots of piercings, and usually has a mohawk, with shaved sides, and now has his own studio, high profile clients (e.g. Madonna, large video game companies, etc), and is one of the nicest guys I've ever known.

I work for a video game company, and we have a male programmer with earrings, and tattoos all around his arms, and he always wears short-sleeve shirts. He's never had trouble getting work in the industry. In fact, he's taken days off work to go get long tattoo procedures, and when he's come back, the bosses have wanted to see how it turned out. I've worked for EA, and NC Soft, each of which turns several billion dollar profits each year (I think NC Soft raked in $16bil the year I was there), and they had no policies regarding body mods, and even the highest-paid employees (quarter $million+/year salaries) were as likely as any others to have tattoos, and/or piercings. No one cared in the slightest.

I should also mention here that in the film, video game, music, and most other entertainment industries, there are literally thousands, if not tens of thousands of *companies* (not just jobs) where you don't even have to dress very nicely. At my company of around 60 employees, making games for the PS2, PSP, PS3, Xbox, XBox 360, PC, and Wii, we wear jeans and tshirts. No one ever dresses up nicely, and if they do, everyone surrounds them to find out why. Looking "professional" is thus the 'odd' thing, and the bosses worry you're going to interview at another company :)

My stepdad is in construction, and did some work for Sony, and in one of their very advanced CD production facilities, the guy hired to perfect all the tracks, because he had an amazing ear, was full of body mods, and apparently extremely weird to look at. He was in a building full of suits, and they appreciated, and needed him because of his skills.

Speaking of my stepdad, almost everyone that works in his construction company has tattoos, or piercings. I wouldn't call them fast-food employees, either. They're skilled workers, often doing apprenticeships for years to be good enough to do complicated, dangerous things like create, and later affix all the fiberoptic lighting fixtures to every level of one of the Atlantic City, NJ casinos, which was one of their jobs.

Just about every Hollywood starlet these days has tattoos, and they certainly have big careers, whatever you might think of them. I'm not sure where you're from that you have this opinion, but I'm in LA county - roughly 10 million people - and I never see anyone have a problem, though I've seen countless modded people. In fact, a lot of the very highly skilled, in-demand folks I've met have had some manner of body mods. That's one nice thing I can say about a lot of this county - it's amazingly tolerant. I haven't seen the ridicule, or felt things like racism, which I felt often up in the NE states, where I was born, and raised.

You've made some very sweeping generalizations. I've given a lot of very concrete examples from 3 states, in all 3 corners of America (NJ, FL, CA) where this is not at all a problem, even in the NE states. I do understand your irrational fear, though. I have a similar one regarding alcohol, and drugs. I don't do them, and have some kind of fear surrounding them, but at least I know about it, and work to be accepting of people who, for example, drink socially, as it's also quite normal (making me the odd duck).

Certain jobs might be closed, like attorneys, as you say, but sheesh, who wants to be one of those? I can bet a girl with elf ears is not exactly the type to want to dress in a suit, and have a high-stress job like that. There are endless places where she can find the kind of work, and people she enjoys. She may even already have done so, like everyone I know :)

Ruettiger (author)gfixler2008-05-25

yes tatoos and piercing will eventually be accepted. What happens then? do you think tattoos will increase or decrease? when the counterculture aspect is gone will people still desire them? Elves are fictional character from someones imagination. that is the whole basis for doing this to your body is to look like something that doesn't exist. that is so vain. What happens when somone writes a book about elves in which they are extremely evil or portrayed very negative and society becomes extremely negative towards elves? no more lawn gnomes and no more keeblers making cookies and santa needs new workers and looking like an elves is even more unacceptable. whether wrong or right or you like it or you don't people are judging you by the way you look extreme looks create a judgment in the minds of people and you may lose out on opportunities not just career wise but relationships and friendships. You really have to think how people will treat you people even your family may treat you differently after something like this.

stimps (author)Ruettiger2008-08-07

A) when the counterculture doesn't feel so counter anymore, they will find something else to feel countery about (this has happened since time immemorial, and unless you have been closing your eyes and ears for your whole life, you would see this.

B) Everyone, I mean everyone, has a vain spot. Intellect, eye colour, ability to play guitar better than everyone else, something. To say that one kind of vanity is better or worse than another is to enter into a world of comparison that out-vains all other vanity. "I am so right about what people should be thinking and doing, and about society being screwy because it's not changing in a way I want!" Is that not the ultimate vanity?

Also: why does the vanity of others matter to you? Someone does something that you think will make them an unemployable wretch. It's not your business. Keep your beak in your own pond, and your eyes on the prizes that make your life full. You'll be much happier.

Edited for the loss of a word.

CityzenJane (author)Ruettiger2008-08-05

Ruettiger. Are you under the assumption that people are not judging you anyway? I do judge people and hire them based on that judgment - but how they present themselves - may or not be positive. If you come in looking like you never took a risk in your life, like you are trying to conform like a blob to whatever you think I would like you to be, that does not present to me the image of someone who would be fun - at all to work with...and when I say fun...I mean creative, risk taking, original, open, DIY. I wil certainly look beyond appearances, because under mods and tats can live an abject conformist...but not necessarily. I don't want to work with people who are that dim and shallow. I don't have any mods or tats, but I will be interested in the person's work FIRST. If you judge me on some like that and don't want to work with me then, I sure as hell don't want to work with you. We're lucky. We live in different times. It's not the 50s and you do not have to conform or die. You do however have to have talent...and no body mods, tattoos or lack there of, while enhance or diminish that in my mind. Sure you're playing some odds...but showing up in a JC Penny suit and a 300 dollar haircut may not make those odds better than showing up with elf ears...

gfixler (author)Ruettiger2008-05-26

Sure, it's an extreme change, and I won't say you're wrong. You should definitely think very hard about it, and see if it meshes with your plans for your life. Your example of elves being evil seems a little trite to me, though. There are evil elves in works of fiction, and fantasy all over the place already. There's no real reason to believe that there's going to be some public uprising over the concept of elves :)

There's another side of this to consider. Your arguments, and those of dchall8 are steeped in conformity, and speak mostly to the safety, and comfort of not going against the herd. I think it's pretty clear that someone who actually goes through with surgery to look slightly unlike the crowd is not someone who really cares what the crowd thinks. I am one of these people.

I don't have any body modifications, but I prefer to live alone, because when I've lived with others, I've been very unhappy. I haven't met many, if any who can imagine not wanting to live with others, but I simply never (ever) feel lonely, or that I'm in need of companionship. I'm most stable on my own. I can't adequately explain it. The herd can not seem cope with this concept.

I also don't drink, smoke, nor do any kind of drugs, and in fact, never have. I even avoid prescription/over the counter, if at all possible. I, too, don't own a cellphone (only one in a company of 60 people). I can't stand them, and refuse to get one. For just these few mentioned facts alone, I am extremely bizarre, and those are just the obvious things. As an unusual person, I can tell you that I wouldn't spend much time worrying about what the rest of the world thought if I was going to do something like this. We are the kind of people who despise conformity, and swapping uniquity, and any sort of personal identity for the comfort of not mildly upsetting others. We don't really appreciate that in others, and we certainly aren't about to change our lives because of what you fear.

You are, of course, certainly still welcome to fear these things, and worry about them, and make (imo, unfounded) grave predictions but as a kind of spokesman for the unusual, I just wanted to point out that in the meantime, we'll be off living our lives, and doing what we actually want to do with our time, rather than what society dictates for us is okay.

stimps (author)gfixler2008-08-07

Yes indeed on all of this, especially the regional aspects. Add British Columbia (in or around Vancouver) to the list.

stimps (author)dchall82008-08-07

It all depends on which coast you live on, or what country you are living in. Tattoos are widely acceptable all along the west coast, north and south. I have many tattooed and modified friends who are "out" about the work they've had, and others that are totally quiet about it, and they all work. And not at frying chicken.

hippie_mama (author)dchall82008-05-24

Well gee...if she's showing her lower back while working as an attorney, perhaps the problem goes a bit beyond the body art. LOL :P

dchall8 (author)hippie_mama2008-05-24

She has to get undressed sometime. If she does it with a co-worker, career is over. If evidence of a tattoo slips out at a party or even in the restroom where a co-worker's wife sees, career's over.

NotAsPretty (author)dchall82008-08-06

Honestly Dchall, you are simply wrong. There is overwhelming amount of people in very high paid and high responsibility positions that actively seek body modification and alternative lifestyle. No one gets fired over stuff like that anymore unless the people in charge are sporting some serious prejudices. And there are now a lot of lawyers just biting at the bit for cases like that. So no worries, man. Get those tattoos, that mowhawk, and elf ears you have been wanting but thought you would loose you job over. Go America.

pittbully (author)NotAsPretty2008-08-06

Dchall... bigots.... yes, but everyone is missing the point... elf ears? ELF EARS? What would possibly possess someone to get elf ears? Yea yea your choice, my opinion, "free country," though it appears that this is nothing more than escapism at its worst, a chance to pretend we are more significant, beautiful, or fantastic than they really are, thus continually stemming from the distorted portrayal of the mythic "American Dream" Willy Loman style. If we would all take a second to realize this, we could all work towards a better, yet real existence... but in the meantime, go Legolis go!!!!

Personally, I would love to see someone fire a lawyer over something their wife caught a glimpse of in the restroom. True, they might have to leave the job, but only because they have to devote most of their time to handling all the money from their fat settlement.

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