Introduction: Bolt Together 2 X 72 Belt Grinder

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I have been wanting a 2 x 72 belt grinder ever since I started making knives on my wimpy 4 x 36 belt sander. After looking around at some designs I figured I could probably make one myself. I had access to our scrap bin at work that often had square tubing and small chunks of flat stock but I didn't have access to a welder. This led me to design a belt grinder that was similar to many of the welded designs I saw but would be bolted together rather than welded. This also had the advantage that if one of the pieces broke or I messed up on it while making it then all I had to do was unbolt it and make a new one.

Here are some sites that I referenced when designing this. They have additional information that I may not include that may help you out.

https://www.instructables.com/id/2X72-Belt-Grinder...

http://dcknives.blogspot.com/p/2-x-72-belt-grinder...

http://dcknives.blogspot.com/p/budget-2-x-72-belt-...

Step 1: Drawings and Models

Below I have included some drawings and models that should hopefully help you with the dimensions and hole layouts. I included the drawings as pdf's and the .step file for the entire assembly so you can see how it all fits together. If you do not have a 3D modeling software I have also included a 3D pdf that will anyone with adobe acrobat (its free) to be able to view the assembly as well.

Note: While making this I made some changes and these drawings and models are not 100% the same as what I show being made. I will address the changes in each step as they differ from the drawings.

Material List:

2in x 2in square tubing in the following lengths:

One 5in long tube

Two 10in long tubes

One 11in long tube

1.5in x 1.5in square tubing in the following lengths:

One 7in long tube

One 17in long tube

One 12in long tube

Two pieces 2in x 6.5in x .25in (this can be thinner but it is nice if it is thicker because it will be threaded)

Two pieces 4in x 4in x .125 (this can be thicker if you want but not any thinner)

Four 2in long pieces of 2in angle iron

One piece at least 2.5in x 8in x .25in for the tool rest

One piece 2in x 2in x .25in (I made mine more around 2in x 4in x .25in which you will see later)

One piece 1.5in x 1.1in x .375in for one half of the hinge

One piece 2in x 2in x .375in for the other half of the hinge

Parts list:

Lots of bolts (each step will show the bolts you need, most are 3/8in bolts but they don't have to be)

Lots of lock nuts (these are important as this vibrates a lot and you don't want it coming apart)

Two adjustable position handles (I used these 3/8 x 1 1/4 ones)

Flat platen tool (I bought this one but the second link I provided has the plans for one if you can make it)

Guide, tracking, and drive wheels (I bought mine form here but the third link shows how you can make your own)

A gas spring (I used a 7in 100N/22lb spring from amazon but it is no longer available)

A handle (I turned a 2 x 2 piece of wood into a handle but you could buy whatever you want)

A motor (This completely depends on what you have or the power you want, I have a 1hp motor with a vfd to provide variable speed control)

Step 2: Making and Attaching the Front Plate

Picture of Making and Attaching the Front Plate

I forgot to take pictures before I drilled all of the holes but I tried to show them in a way that would explain the step by step approach that I took when making this.

First you need to cut all 4 of the 2in square tubing to the required lengths. For the two 10in tubes you will want to file away the weld seam because this is where the 1.5in tubes will be inserted and that seam will make it difficult. These tubes have a 3/16in wall thickness. It is important to have thicker walls on these because the 1.5in tubes fit into them and you want as small of a gap as possible.

The next part that I show was originally designed to be 2in x 2in but I ended up making it 4in long because as you will see later on I needed to room so that I could have a surface to mount the gas spring to. When making this part you need a drill press because you are drilling all the way through a 2in part and unless you are way better at free hand drilling than I am it is near impossible to drill through this evenly. I drilled these to allow a 1/4in bolt to fit all the way through this and the two side plates. Many of these holes can be drilled slightly larger than the bolt so that even if you are a little off then it can still be assembled. when you tighten everything down it will be tight enough that nothing will move.

Then you will want to drill the holes on the two side plates. One plate will be drilled to have two 3/8 in threaded holes in it and the other I decided to put two 1/4in threaded holes in it even though I didn't have them on the drawing. These 1/4in bolts were used to keep these plates fixed to the two 10in tubes. Then you will put a 3/8in hole in the bottom that will hold the front leg in place.

Assemble as shown and then drill the hole in the front leg, this tube also had a 3/16in wall thickness, and bolt it together. once this is bolted together then you will want to use the holes on the plates as guides on where to drill the holes on the tubes below them. Then you tap the holes and add the bolts and handles. If you need to learn how to tap a hole it is included in the classes they offer on here. Just go slow as I broke a tap while making this.

Step 3: Making and Attaching the Rear Plate

Picture of Making and Attaching the Rear Plate

Now to work on the back side. For the 11in tube you will need to cut out the top to allow the top arm to be able to fit into it. This tube only had a 1/8in wall thickness due to the material I had available but it is not as important as on the two 10in tubes.

Then you will need to create the two 4in x 4in plates. These hold the back and together. It worked best be me to drill the top hole in the vertical 11in tube and then put the bolt through and then use the plate to mark the second holes location. I did the same thing for the next two holes through the other tubes. Then you just bolt it all together.

Step 4: Making the Hinge for the Tracking Wheel

Picture of Making the Hinge for the Tracking Wheel

To be able to adjust the tracking of the belt, the tracking wheel needed to be mounted onto a hinge. I decided to make my own hinge because I had a small desktop mill available and the steel to make it. This hinge just needs to be able to attach to the upper arm and the other half of the hinge has to be able to hold the bolt that the tracking wheel spins on.

Step 5: Making the Upper Arm

Picture of Making the Upper Arm

To make the upper arm you will need the 7in long piece of 1.5in tube. The 1.5in tubes I had all had a 3/16in wall thickness. This will fit into the back 11in tube where the slot was cut out. The holes in the back are where a bolt will go through to allow it to rotate up and down. When fully assembled this arm is pushed up by the gas spring and provides the tension on the belt. You will then need to drill the holes for the hinge and handle.

Because there is a gap when this is inserted into the 11in tube I bought some nylon spacers ans sanded them down so that they would take up the gap between these two parts.

For my handle I just turned a 4in piece of 2x2 wood that I had laying around and drilled a hole through it so I could run a 1/4in bolt through to attach it to the tube. You can buy a handle or make one however you want. it is just needed to pull down on the arm when changing belts.

Note: I talk about it in the trouble shooting section but I would recommend making the arm a couple inched longer and moving the handle up further allowing for the addition of a tracking adjustment knob.

Step 6: Making the Feet

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To be able to mount this to a surface it needed some feet. I had access to some 2in angle iron so that is what I made these out of. They are all 2in wide and have a 3/8in hole on each face. one hole to mount to the belt grinder and one to bolt into the table I mount it on.

Step 7: Making the Tool Rest

Picture of Making the Tool Rest

To make a tool rest for this I needed a long piece of 1.5in tubing to insert into the lower of the two 10in tubes. I determined this needed to be about 17in in length to sit in the right location. I then found a good sized piece of flat stock and drilled and tapped two holes and then used those holes as guides to drill the holes in the 1.5in tube. I then fed two bolts in through the bottom and ground them so that they would not stick up out of the plate.

Note: When figuring out where to drill the holes on the flat stock it is important to note where the belt will be and center your plate about that point so that you have that same amount of tool rest to either side of the belt. Unless you want it uneven, in that case do it however you want.

Step 8: Making the Flat Platen Tool Arm

Picture of Making the Flat Platen Tool Arm

To make the other tool arm you will need to know what you plan on mounting to it. I was going to mount a flat platen to it so I used the hole locations from that to determine where I needed to drill my holes. If you use a different mount than the one I used you will need to determine where your holes will need to be accordingly. You can make multiple arms to accommodate additional things like a large or small contact wheel. I found that 12in was the length needed for the flat plated attachment I used but you may need something longer or shorter depending on what you plan on attaching to it.

Step 9: Attaching the Gas Spring for Belt Tension

Picture of Attaching the Gas Spring for Belt Tension

I determined I needed a 7in long gas spring to keep the upper arm at the angle I wanted. This is why I ended up making the top of the front plate 4in long instead of 2. I needed room to mount the gas spring. This was simply just figuring out where I wanted it to be positioned and then drilling and tapping the holes for the screws to hold it in place.

Note: be careful when drilling the holes in the plate so that you don't drill into where the other bolts are in that plate already.

Step 10: Trouble Shooting

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There were a couple things that I ran into that I would like to make note of to help you in setting up your grinder.

  1. Make sure all the wheels are aligned correctly. I had to drill the holes in the top arm bigger for the hinge because it had enough wiggle that the weight of the tracking wheel and tension of the belt bulled it down too much. I just made the holes bigger and twisted the hinge some more before bolting it down. I also had to do some troubleshooting to make sure the motor was aligned correctly so that the drive wheel was in the correct alignment with the rest of the wheels.
  2. The tracking wheel will need to be pushed out some to track correctly. I didn't fully understand this part of the grinder when designing it but to adjust the tracking of the belt the tracking wheel will need to be pivoted on the hinge either in or out to adjust the belt. I did not add this kind of feature when I designed this but I would suggest making the upper arm longer and mounting the handle at the top making room for a handle with a threaded rod to be added that can be twisted to push the tracking wheel in or out. For now I just drilled a hole in the hinge and added a threaded stud that can be twisted to push it in or out but it is a pain to adjust.
  3. There may be clearance between the tool arms and the 10in tubes they go into. I got some 1/16in thick nylon sheets that I cut into strips to fill the space between those parts to prevent the tool arms from being able to wiggle due to the clearance between them.

Step 11: Fully Armed and Operational Belt Grinder

Picture of Fully Armed and Operational Belt Grinder

Your grinder is now complete and all you need to do is add a motor, set it all up, and you are ready to grind away.

If you want you can get some 1.5in square tube plugs to cap the exposed ends of the 1.5 tubes just to clean it up. I plan on adding those and painting it next year when it warms up again.

Thank you for checking this out. If you have any questions, comments, or improvement suggestions please let me know.

Comments

Chuckscar (author)2017-11-27

I’m getting ready to start this build.
I have a 2hp single phase motor .
Any suggestions on a variable speed controller?

I used the KBAC-24D which is for a 1hp motor but they make the KBAC-27D which is good for a 2hp motor. I like this one because of its simplicity and sealed design. They are a bit more expensive but they were recommended multiple places when I was searching.

Chuckscar (author)2017-11-21

I really appreciate the detail and completeness of this post! You certainly get my vote.
I am starting this build, are there any other changes or modifications you would make , now that you have been using the grinder?

Thank you. I tried to give as much detail as possible.

As for changes. I only would recommend my second point under Trouble Shooting. It is just making room to add a way to more easily adjust the angle of the hinge for belt tracking. One of the comments below attached a good picture to explain this.

I would also reccommend looking through the links I provided if you haven't already as they have some good info as well.

Other than that it has been working wonderful so far.

matthewgal (author)2017-11-15

Great Job!

Thank you.

CuriousAboutManyThings (author)2017-11-06

Nice work :) If I actually manage to clean out my garage and make it a work space, I'll be coming back to this. :)

Thank you. Good luck on the build

lonewolf64 (author)2017-11-06

Great idea and great job

Thank you

ragtoptruck1 (author)2017-11-06

Nice job, but I see no details on wheel size or how you made them?

Thank you. In the parts list I stated that I bought the wheels from Oregon Blade Maker. I wanted aluminum wheels but do not have the ability to make them yet so I bought them. Also on the third link at the beginning they show that you can use longboard wheels as a cheaper alternative. they also added electrical tape to the tracking wheel to "crown" the wheel.

iuz (author)2017-11-06

Great Job! I think you could move the hindge a little away from the tube and add bolt near the handle so you can adjust the middle weel up and down .

Yes. I had actually mentioned this in my trouble shooting step. I didn't realize this until I made it but I would recommend making the top arm tube a couple inches longer and mounting the handle further up to make room for a through bolt like you show to adjust the tracking wheel. I wish I would have known this before making it. But luckily I can just unbolt it and make another arm to incorporate this change. The gap behind the hinge has allowed for enough adjustment for it to track properly so far but with some other belts I may have to move it further away to allow greater adjustment. Thanks for the input.

tkarrmann (author)2017-11-03

You did not mention the wall thickness of the 2" and 1.5" square. What did you use?

I did forget to mention that. I will add those. Thanks for catching that. The 2in tubes had a wall thickness of 3/16in except for the 11in one in back which was 1/8in thick. The 10in tubes are the ones that you want to have the thicker walls so that there is less gap when the 1.5in tubes are inserted into them. And the 1.5in tubes had a wall thickness of 3/16 I believe.

robbied (author)2017-11-02

Very nicely constructed. I've seen a few done like this one. I have the steel to make one, but in a welded version for simplicity, just because I have access to one.

Thank you. Good luck on the build. I'd like to know how it works out for you.

Looks spot on and you obviously have an idea with what you are doing, but my question would be why haven’t you used fitted bolts or dowels to keep everything so it’s aligned perfectly, you can use a mill and lathe, unless you wanted adjustment for the ‘tracking’ of the belt

The tracking always requires adjustment. Between different brands of belt, age, they tend to stretch in different ways.

I understand a belt always needs adjustment, but with fitted bolts there would be little to no movement in the holes and it would be stronger,

I suppose you could use fitted bolts for the other bolts in this design but I think this would require the need of more precision equipment than I had access to. Even with clearance holes and regular bolts this is very strong. The plate thickness and bolt sizes I used were a little overkill. I was just trying to keep it as cost effective as possible. If you have the ability to make this with fitted bolts then I'd like to hear how it goes.

Thank you. I'm not sure I completely understand your question. Are you referring to a specific part of the grinder or the assembly as a whole? I also don't have a lathe and the mill I have access to is not very accurate.

atlantica (author)2017-11-02

my vote too. I wish every post was like this one.

Thank you. It's really encouraging to hear that. Espically since I just started writing these.

Coolit2017 (author)2017-11-01

Nice work thanks for sharing you get my vote

Thank you

David LG (author)2017-11-01

You got my vote as well, excellent design, great tutorial !

Thank you. I really apreciate the vote.

Mile NK (author)2017-11-01

Great job, you got my vote! Which software did you use for drawings and 3D view?

Thank you. I used Solidworks to design this. It's what I have access to.

cavalier19 (author)2017-10-31

Really detailed instructions. Great build & thanks for generously sharing all the details. Plan to build one soon. However, I will be welding most of the frame to reduce vibrations.

Thank you. Good luck on the build. If I had a welder I wouldn't have needed to make a bolted together design.

dc-labs (author)2017-10-31

Really well done. Thank you!

Thank you. Glad you liked it.

burzurk (author)2017-10-31

Abosolutely beauitiful!

thank you

Kenstruct (author)2017-10-31

Wow, very clean build and superb documentation along with basically just using scraps! Definitely resourceful and this would be a good addition to any shop. Maybe we can make one like it for the local maker space.

I'm glad you liked it. hopefully you'll have less mess-ups then me if you make it.

deanaoxo (author)2017-10-31

Super blown away by this post. Can't wait to study it more, but from what i've read, and seen, just a really great example of wanting something, and making it happen. Looks amazing. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you.

DejayRezme (author)2017-10-31

Nice build! Thanks for sharing.

I'm a newb but I'd be curious why a 2x72 is better than a 4x36? Isn't wider better? Or couldn't you just put a 2x36 belt on the 4x36 grinder?

What is the advantage of length of the belt? It seems to be mostly just wasted?

Yonatan24 (author)DejayRezme2017-10-31

The sandpaper grains have more time to cool off. Maybe the belts are also cheaper? That's at least what I've heard :)

DejayRezme (author)Yonatan242017-10-31

Ah yeah I guess that's plausible.

I guess you could also add an airstream to artificially cool down the belt.

From what I have found out so far, I'm definitely no expert, but 4 x 36 sanders are usually designed for wood and thus some of the advantages include:

The longer belt has more time to cool down (as mentioned above)

They can usually be modified to accept many different sized motors for more aggressive and quicker grinding. 4 x 36 sanders are limited to what comes with them. And with this you can also add speed control to a 2 x 72 for precise grinding or if you don't want to heat up the metal and loose a heat treat. I had this problem with my 4 x 36 because it was so fast.

There are more belts designed for grinding harder metals than you can find for the 4x36

They can usually accept many different kind of grinding surfaces. Different sized wheels, flat grinding, or slack belt grinding.

gm280 (author)2017-10-31

I applaud you for designing and building a 2 x 72 belt grinder, especially out of bolts instead of welding it. If you made that same design and welded it up, it would be perfect. And since I have that capability, I may have to see what I can do. But nice project either way. Maybe you can look for a nice cheap MIG welder for your next metal project. I think you would love welding.

Thank you. Because this was designed off of other welded designs it would definitely work well if you have a welder. If you'd be kind enough to vote then I may be lucky enough to win a welder. But I do plan on getting a welder, it's just a little down my list of tools I want. Too many wanted tools, not enough money.

AMbros Custom (author)2017-10-31

superb job, have you made any video of making this belt sander.

Unfortunately I did not. Being new here I was just trying to remember to take pictures of each step. I'm not used to documenting my builds. I want to do videos in the future. One step at a time. I am possibly going to make another one of these for a friend. If I do then I will try to remember to make a video and add it to this.

vishnumaiea (author)2017-10-30

Just beautiful! Love this. You've got my vote ;)

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