Every Year Millions of Computers are thrown into landfills because they have become 'obsolete'. Many of these computers are in perfect working condition and just need a few cheap upgrades to bring them up to standard. Breathe a new breath of life into your computer with this ible.

The goal of this project is to convert a 8 year old computer into a computer that can take notes, write documents, browse the web and play the odd game at a standard that is acceptable today.

Project Brief:

Every Year Millions of Computers are thrown into landfills because they have become 'obsolete'. Many of these computers are in perfect working condition and just need a few cheap upgrades to bring them up to standard. I have personally been given several old computers that others have no use for, and I have converted them into usable working machines that have gone on to live long and prosper in the hands of friends and family.

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What will it cost you?

A little time and money may be required for this, some muscle grease might also be a requirement. But the experience of working with technology and learning a little about the inner workings of a computer is an invalauble experience. Converting the laptop, used in this ible, into a note-taking and document writing beast. Cost me exactly $0! The ram I got from a old computer that had literally gone up in flames! The harddrive had just been sitting around since I had scrapped some computers for a bit of extra pocket money. The CD drive had been removed from the laptop previously due to its tendency to jam shut (fixed with a paper clip).

If you don't want to buy the stuff you need, head down to your local e-waste center and ask if you can take some computers to scrap. Most will freely let you take a computer or two. Or take to ebay and craigslist. Head over to the next heading to find out what you will need.


Time Needed:easy..


Money Needed:essy..

What this will do to your computer:

Doing this has the potential to remove EVERYTHING from your computer! Please, for my sanity as well as your precious files... BACKUP EVERYTHING!


I am in no way responsible if you stuff up your computer or delete your wedding photos because you follow this tutorial. Please make sure you understand the risks and ask any questions below before attempting to replicate what you see me doing.

Step 1: Gather Everything You Need

Find the model number of your computer, along with any other important documents and updates. Updating the BIOS might not be such a bad idea at this point. Finding a manual might be a little tricky, but even for a sworn anti-manual person like me, checking you're putting things in the right way round can be pretty helpful.

Before you start download and read carefully MAX specs of the PC from the manufacturer site as well as forum topics or articles related to the upgrade of the device in question, a few simple google searches can save you a lot of grief down the road; Check that the maximum RAM is 4GB or above and is preferably DDR2, DDR3 or DDR4, as DDR ram can be hard to find as well as can be very expensive. You want to push the RAM up to its maximum in most cases or a minimum of around 4GB (most modern OS's do not play well with anything less) unless you intend to run a more lightweight style operating system such as Linux Mint (more information regarding this at a later step).

You also should check whether the CPU is easily upgradable (this may require a google search), or whether there are physical or component based limitations on upgrades regarding the CPU. Check that the computer actually has room for the proposed drive upgrade - consider taking using both your old and new drives for some extra storage or using them in a slightly different more exotic setup. Check the format of any PCI, AGP or PCI-E lanes, as a second hand graphics card can be of a massive performance improvement to a computer, especially if you use your computer for tasks that are GPU accelerated, though the need for a GPU will differ with your usage situation. Finally check the comments below as there is a wealth of knowledge and personal experience that I could never fit into an article such as this.

Check your laptop or desktop for any physical bumps or damage that may effect the ability for it to function properly. Check that the computer does not have any damaged or leaked capacitors then move to power it on and check that it posts. If you do not see a manufactures screen in reference to the motherboard or computer model, then you need to fix that before attempting an upgrade (post in the comments with your issue or private message me, or post on a forum dedicated to the laptop or motherboard you are rocking with the utmost swag. If the laptop or computer is badly damaged or dead, this guide is not going to revive it from its dead state.


PLEASE DO CHECK THAT THE PARTS YOU GET WORK WITH YOUR COMPUTER! I will not be responsible if you buy some ram and its doesn't fit, or your hard drive is the wrong connector type (for instance if it is IDE, while the connector type is SATA)! As a hard drive caddy or bridge connector can be not only expensive but difficult to get ahold of and a mismatched CPU or RAM component can be impossible to use.

What you need:

  • A Phillips head screwdriver
  • An Anti-Static band
  • A microfibre cloth
  • A rag or old t-shirt etc
  • A CD/DVD to put the Operating system installer on
  • A can of compressed air/oil-less air compressor

What parts you might want to consider replacing:

  • A new CPU or motherboard that fits the physical and chip limitations of the computer
  • A new Hard Drive that fits the physical and power limitations of the computer
  • A Harddrive or SSD in the appropriate size (taking into account the connector type)
  • Some new higher capacity/ higher speed ram appropriate for you computer
  • Any replacement parts that need to be installed (e.g. CD/DVD drives, keyboards)

Obviously the availability or ability for you to exchange or change any of these components is dependent on the computer in question.

Important:Before we start, put on your Anti static Wrist strap and remove the battery from your computer if it has one!

Once you have EVERYTHING proceed to the next step.

Step 2: Change Out Your Hardrive

First we will swap out the harddrive, changing out the hard drive will give us more space and even faster speeds. you have two options for hard drives, you can go with a traditional spinning platter hard drive. Because they are cheap and easy to get ahold of. Or you can go with a SSD, a newer type of hard drive that is MUCH faster, SSD's also have no moving parts so they are much more reliable. The catch is they are ALOT more expensive, although they have come down in price dramatically in the last several years, they still are a lot more expensive than traditional hard drives. Its up to you if you want to invest in one.

Changing out the hard drive:

Please be VERY Careful with harddrives, dropping one could VERY EASILY spell the end of your beloved harddrive!

  1. Remove any and all covers or obstructions from the hard drive bay
  2. Carefully Remove the bracket along with the harddrive from the computer, please do not force it as you could break the fragile SATA/ATA connectors.
  3. Remove the hard drive from the bracket and put your replacement harddrive into the bracket.
  4. Place the new hard drive into the computer and carefully connect the SATA/ATA cable/connector.
  5. Replace the harddrive bay cover and boot the computer
  6. While booting go to boot selector by pressing a dedicated key on your keyboard displayed at boot. Check that the SATA/ATA drive you just put in is recognized by the computer.
  7. Shutdown the computer ready for the Ram upgrade

Step 3: Change Out Your Ram

Our Next step is to change out the ram, high capacity ram that you have made sure works with your computer is great. Speed doesn't matter that much in my opinion, especially with these types of machines from such a long time ago. Performance benefits from high speed ram are negligible.

Changing out laptop ram:

  1. Remove any covers on top of the RAM bay
  2. Push the two levers on either side of the ram
  3. Remove the ram gently, trying as much as possible to only touch the sides of the ram modules
  4. Get the new ram and slide it in gently, when the contacts are most hidden push down and wait till you hear a click

Changing out desktop computer ram:

  1. Push the 2 plastic tabs on each side of the ram
  2. Put your fingers on the edges of the ram module and pull up
  3. Hold your new ram module in a similar fashion
  4. Gently push your new ram module into the slot on the motherboard, you can use your hand to help by pushing down on the top
  5. Push down until you hear a click

Step 4: Install Additional Compnents and Clean Up

Now that you have your computer disassembled, it can also be a good idea to have a clean out of the insides. If you've had your computer for awhile, chances are that it now gets a little bit hotter than it used to, and that fan seems to blow loudly all the time. This is because over the years debris and dust have built up on the insides of your computer and are now restricting the thermal performance of the computer in question. Depending on the environment you have had your computer in as well as the computers age the necessity for this step will vary. But to a computer that is actually slowing down itself to keep its temperatures appropriate, a good clean out can be a massive improvement.

Note: If you turn into the human embodiment of Godzilla when getting a little bit of dust in your sinuses, stop now and go and get a dust mask!

Go ahead and remove the back of your laptop and expose as much of the bare PCB as you can, making sure to be cautious while handling the components. Then move to use your compressed air can to blow air over the components and attempt to remove some of the visible dust. Run compressed air through the heat sinks (while holding the fan in place to prevent damage) and get ready for a storm of dust to appear out of seemingly nowhere.

In short blasts of your compressed air can remove blocks of grit and dust in segments and sweep it up into pieces on the side of the case - then move to remove them using a microfiber cloth. Doing this over all componenets of the disassembled computer should get them back to looking spick 'n' span

Follow your computer manufacturers instructions to install and additional components. These instructions can usually be found in the manual. I simply had to install push in my optical drive then reattach a little latch.

Once everything is installed get to work wiping down the computer with a rag, working on the appearance of your computer. Try to remove as much dust as possible! Any stickers on the computer should be removed for better ascetics. If the stickers leave any residue then grab some 99% Isopropyl alcohol and wipe it off. Grab your microfibre cloth and dampen it slightly with water. Then wipe down the screen gently removing any grit or muck. Let it dry then move to the next step!

Step 5: Installing the Operating Sytem

What Operating System do I choose?

This is no easy question to answer, Really it all comes down to personal choice. What operating systems do you: have access to, have experience with, have programs for etc. I have found that personally Windows 10 runs quite well on older hardware due to its smaller footprint - with a small trick to get it till the 28th of June 2016 being to purchase an older windows 7 or 8 license for cheap and run the upgrade to windows 10. But I have also found that some computers running windows 10 is not an option that can be explored and that LINUX is a much more prominent suggestion.

On some older hardware you may find that a lightweight Linux Distro runs amazingly and fulfills everything you require from an operating system while on slightly newer 'old' hardware you may err on the side of a full windows installation for better application and device support. I recommend that you do not run a 'old' operating system such as Windows XP. It's tempting, but support from Microsoft has been dropped and it is vulnerable to many very well known exploits and hacks. Though there are support 'hacks' it is still nowhere near ideal and not always the greatest idea. Do some research and make a educated choice about your OS!

Operating System Suggestions:

Ubuntu - A powerful LINUX based operating system based on Debain with GNOME as the desktop manager. Great support and a great alternative to the more conventional Windows Choice. (Light weight versions available - see Xubuntu and Lubuntu). FREE

Windows 10 - A powerful well supported operating system offered by Microsoft. Though it is not cheap (at least compared to the free options available) it can be a great choice if you require the support that windows offers and you believe the investment of money is justified to that end. It is also much more lightweight than windows 8 or 7, so you may want to consider upgrading if you are in the situation of using either of those. Trial Available, $120.

Windows 7/8 - The earlier versions of Windows, though I discouraged using older operating systems in the above paragraph text, these are still well supported and used around all sorts of industries. Until June 28th 2016 you are able to upgrade your windows 7 or 8 OS to windows 10 for no addition fee through the included system dialogue.

Puppydog Linux - A VERY lightweight OS that runs almost completely in RAM. Takes the emphasis off of special effects in the UI to focus more on high performance and its ability to run to damn near anything. If you are lagging behind with other operating system options this is a great choice that still allows the ability to browse the web and check your emails. FREE

ChromiumOS/CloudReady - Both of these options turn your computer into a chromebook (or at least, allow your computer to be of a similar rugby pitch). Both are also free and great alternatives if you intend to spend most of your time using the internet, checking emails and binge watching something on Netflix. The catch being you have to be connected to the internet to use this to its full potential and you are locked into logging into your google account in most circumstances. FREE

Take your time and consider the above options, as well as looking around for options that may be more appropriate if you are more experienced with Linux, or willing to do a bit of experimentation. This is a place where just trying a few different options (via your trusty 8GB USB stick) can be the best way to make a decision on what is best for you.

Preparing the CD/DVD (Skip if using retail disc):

Download the .iso file for your chosen OS then burn it to a disc or download it to a USB device using the following instructions.

Windows Users: Use the tutorial on Microsofts website

Mac Users: Follow the tutorial here

Installing the Operating System:

  1. Place the disc into the optical drive and start up the computer
  2. Press the key required to 'select boot device' and select the optical drive
  3. Follow the instructions the software gives you to install you chosen OS

Step 6: Enjoy Your Computer

Think about what you just did. You just upgraded your computer with complex electrical components and installed an operating system. Something you might have had no ideas regarding before starting. You have just taken initiative and completed one of the 3 R's, Reusing something that could have become nothing more than another brick in the piles of destruction that litter e-waste recycling sites all around the world. If you have made it this far I congratulate you and wish you the best of luck watching cat videos, checking emails, playing games, finishing homework or whatever else you choose to do with your computer computer. Take a look a user guides for when you first install these operating systems (e.g. Ubuntu, Windows 10) and get familiar with your new computer, it should hopefully serve you well.

I have a 2007 Toshiba's laptop, with a SSD upgrade and Ubuntu. It is just as fast as an average laptop with any Windows I've seen
<p>I have the exact same thing. Runs as good as my i5 laptop.</p>
<p>SSD trim support isn't applied properly on most older machines, so that SSD will wear out real fast. Even with proper TRIM support, a good WD mechanical hard drive will still last at least 10 times longer. With a 7200rpm high density WD mechanical drive &amp; the maximum fastest RAM you can put in the machine, the programs are running off the RAM instead of the drive most of the time. Except during boot time, it will run just as fast than with a SSD. With a WD high density mechanical drive, it's cheaper per GB of storage, more reliable, &amp; will last ages.</p>
<p>No way an HDD would outlast SSD on a laptop. I've been carrying around my laptops and all HDDs would fail in a year or two due to hitting something while carrying, or accidentally turned on got scanned in the airport security, so SSD will always outlast an HDD as there are no spinning parts.</p>
<p>EVERY WD mechanical hard drive I have has lasted 10 years or more with no signs of failure or degrading (5 computers currently running regularly at home, over a dozen in storage, several dozen bought &amp; sold). Because of the design of the SSD, they do wear out, &amp; do have a limited amount of reads/writes much lower than a good mechanical drive. Yeah, a crap HD will fail in a year or 2, just don't buy garbage. </p><p>A crap Seagate drive may only last 6,000-10,000 hours. A good WD drive will last 40,000-60,000 hours before just showing signs of wear. You will not find an SSD lasting much more than a couple years, unless it's hardly used much. Heavily used units &amp; drives have top brand SSDs fail in less than a year. You will not find a good WD drive fail even with heavy use in less than 10 years unless you got a factory defect, or it's been heavily banged around a lot or dropped. If that's the case there's probably much more broken than just the drive anyway. </p><p>A mechanical drive will give warning &amp; signs that it's wearing out too. So you can back-up &amp; save the data. And when they do fail, usually with a little trying, you can get them to run good enough at a slower read rate to retrieve all your data to put on another drive. When a SSD fails, it happens rather suddenly &amp; all data is permanently lost.</p><p>Affordable SSDs available for regular consumers haven't been around long enough to make a claim that they will outlast a good mechanical drive. Many mechanical drives been running long before affordable SSDs hit the store shelves, &amp; they're still running fine. My heavily used &amp; banged around 2005 laptop still has it's original mechanical drive running perfectly in it. An SSD would never last even 1/4 as long. I got a few 1990s computers in back that were heavily used in their day, &amp; the drives are still perfectly running in them.</p><p>I had a few Seagate mechanical drives in the past though. None of them lasted more than a year or 2. And of course, avoid used or refub drives, they're usually nothing but trouble or are trouble just a few months later. Also avoid new drives sold by not well known companies. They're usually selling used drives, that are just stamped as new.</p>
<p>it's really dependant on your location and the climate, for example, for me, Seagate will last years and years, the oldest Seagate drive I have is a little over 6 years at this point, and the longest I've had a WD last was 6 months. So, you know. Like I say, depends on your climate, the Seagates seem to handle humidity and heat a lot better than WD's do. I've always gone Seagate and I've never had issues. </p>
<p>I live in the north where it gets very cold for 3 months, cool for 6 months, &amp; hot/humid for 3 months. On the hot days I have AC. So at home my stuff doesn't get too hot. But my laptops get taken out to some pretty hot environments &amp; still work. Unfortunately most laptops air intake vents are on the bottom, so the worst possible spot for your laptop is actually in your lap, blocking off the cooling vents. So it's always best to use them on a smooth surface that doesn't block off the air vents on the bottom. Or when you feel it's getting hot, set it on a smooth surface or set it aside to cool down a while. </p><p>Many of the older ibooks were notorious for overheating because they had the tiniest weak cooling fan in them that was weaker than the cheapest graphics card fans. Of course all electronics, TVs, &amp; computers will last longer &amp; perform better if you keep them as cool as possible, not just the hard drives.</p>
<p>LOL i used to be just like you, i thought my precious WD blacks would never fail, right up until some of them did. it's called confirmation bias, look it up.</p>
<p>Please stop repeating that nonsense. People have used SSDs with success for years and know the benefits. As for myself I have been using SSD drives only for five years now, currently I own almost ten of them, all of them in daily use (three workstations, one laptop, one server, a few external cases) and NONE of them had failed so far. If you care to read some of the torture tests you could read that any SSD will very probably last several decades in normal daily use. I have used the cheapest Kingston and Sandisk models without one single problem. I would NEVER again go for old-fashioned hard drives even though I have used them since early 1980s and sold hundreds of them in my computer shop days.</p><p>I am using HDs in just two places: a 4GB tertiary backup station and my secondary backup (a mirrored NAS). Once 2TB SSDs become available the days of the NAS disks are gone as well.</p><p>There is quite a bit of statistical data as well if you are willing to search for it. The hard drives today are getting more and more unreliable and have already lost the reliability battle.</p><p>What you are writing might have been valid 5+ years ago but not today. Please stop spreading nonsense.</p>
<p>Well that's a thorough explanation.</p><p>I'm just talking about my <strong>personal </strong>experience.</p><p><strong>Speed</strong>: Every laptop I've upgraded to SSD has shown an incredible increase of performance like 2-3x faster startup time and apps would start almost instantly comparing to long waits before, as most of the laptops (used to) come with 4200 or 5400 rpm HDDs. Upgrading from 7200 rpm does not give such a huge difference, still, for development it's an improvement of at least 30-50% of compilation / packaging time, for example from 20 minutes down to 12 minutes for a build.</p><p><strong>Reliability</strong>: Yes I've read the specifications and working hours of SSDs and I agree that they are not designed to last more than 10 years. However, for a <strong>laptop</strong> that is carried around the house or office during meetings, airports security scanners &amp; etc an SSD is irreplaceable. Just during the last 5 years at least 3 HDDs had failed irreversibly <strong>for me</strong>. And not the cheapest ones, but the ones you would find OEM on a Lenovo Thinkpad, which are already one of the toughest laptops on Earth. I never had even similar issues with SSDs during the last 5 years I've used different kinds of them.</p><p>As a side-effect, SSDs are also lighter and use less power so battery will last longer for the same tasks.</p><p>For <strong>desktop </strong>PCs - where the PC cannot be physically touched ( let's say by kicking with a knee while gaming, which happened to me multiple times and HDD broke too ) that already have 7200 RPM HDDs there's not much of an improvement, apart of being quiter, lighter and less power usage.</p><p>So just to make sure were comparing apples to apples and not oranges, I still believe SSD is a great way to upgrade your <strong>laptop</strong>.</p>
<p>As an IT expert I agree with cikasfm! A mechanical HDD won't outlast ANY SSD. Installing the fastest possible RAM into your laptop might boost it a little, though.</p><p>A little. Don't expect too much of it!<br>With an SSD you have shorter access times and thus a way shorter boot time. That's for sure. Ask yourself which purpose your laptop has to serve. If you have to access it quickly -&gt; install an SSD. If not, an HDD will be enough.</p>
<p>Yeah everybody's an IT expert at these places if they're a gamer or know how to add RAM to their computer, or hookup their router. You're not an expert. Do your research. Affordable SSDs for regular consumers haven't even been on the market as long as some mechanical hard drives that are still running today, so it is not reasonable or logical to make such a claim. Do you even know how an SSD works &amp; the physics of them? If you did, you would know it is impossible for it to last as long as a good mechanical drive, unless you hardly use it. Even the designers of SSDs openly admit that they have a far lower read/write lifetime before failure than a good mechanical drive.</p>
<p>Oh don't worry. I am a computer scientist btw. so I AM an expert. And YOU should stop yipyapping around and offend other (real) experts because of their own experience and education they made. There ARE affordable SSDs for regular customers. Get into 2016, already! I know how an SSD works an its physics, don't worry. And as I can see in the comments it's obviously YOU who has to do a LOT of research.</p>
<p>I have two computers both over 7 yrs old with mechanical hard drives ,both still work one was used for house to house work, so it traveled a lot. But I did have a case for it.</p>
Trim is mostly a software feature and Ubuntu supports automatic trimming since 14.04 LTS.<br>Sure HHDs are cheap and might last longer in an safe environment, but a single headcrash and your new shiny HHD is damaged beyond recovery. Another problem is the maximum RAM on older mainboards and I have yet to see an older Laptop supporting 16Gb of RAM.<br>In my opinion solid state memory is better for an old laptop while your idea with a new hdd is better for a tower pc
<p>My laptops get banged around a lot, &amp; the mechanical drives continue to run flawlessly for many years. Now if we dropped them onto the pavement or concrete, it might kill them, but I'm sure if that happened there would be much more broken than just the hard drive in it.</p>
<p>Trim support is applied on software, not hardware, except on case of hardware RAIDs. And SSDs do a MUCH better job on laptops because they improve the time between charges; SSDs energy consumption is really low.<br>But you are right on one point, the trim support will most probably be automatically applied, at least without a OS upgrade.</p>
<p>We also have to remember that mechanical drives rely on moving components, which adds a massive point of failure, especially if you laptop is being moved around a lot (or to that extent, abused). Even without proper TRIM support, it will still probably outlast the new life of the laptop in question - and if you are not backing up this data anyway, no solution is perfect.</p><p>Not to mention, that programs have to optimised to use the RAM avaliable, instead of just generally running faster.</p>
<p>We also have to remember that mechanical drives rely on moving components, which adds a massive point of failure, especially if you laptop is being moved around a lot (or to that extent, abused). Even without proper TRIM support, it will still probably outlast the new life of the laptop in question - and if you are not backing up this data anyway, no solution is perfect.</p><p>Not to mention, that programs have to optimised to use the RAM avaliable, instead of just generally running faster.</p>
<p>This reply use Thinkpad x60s that same old with your laptop. just upgrade battery, proc fan and more RAM. It still enough and comfort for daily use</p>
<p>At basic OS navigation and loading average or simpler webpages sure, but that is not the point of a computer, the goal is not to run an OS. An OS is merely a means to run apps.</p><p>It can't do many common things well like play a couple youtube videos simultaneously, if even one, can't do video encoding or gaming well, or basically any app like photoshop will take longer to process commands.</p><p>That doesn't make a newer computer better! The best computer is the one that does everything you need it to without costing more than necessary to do that, plus a little breathing room for the future is nice but with shorter lifespan mobile devices like laptops, tablets, etc, future-proofing often isn't cost effective besides upgrading memory with a SD flash card you can later remove and reuse elsewhere.</p>
<p><strong>Awesome!</strong> Yeah, I totally agree, old hardware doesn't have to be crap :P I think with a SSD and a couple of gigs of ram Windows just flys along! No need for brand new computer :)</p>
<p>It's worth remembering that the 'obseleteness' of something has more to do with how many people use it than how old it is. Further, software has gone (over the last decade or two) from minimizing it's resource use to being a general resource hog.</p><p>It might not be the best idea to use an older operating system, but using older software versions is sometimes good because they're easier to obtain, as useful as they ever were and may run nicer (i.e. faster/more smoothly) on newer systems if they're compatible.</p><p>Appropriate choices of software for your hardware can make your computer experience better.</p><p>On the hardware end, if you have DDR ram of any variety it is best to use matching pairs if you want the faster speeds. If you have mismatched module pairs it will run at the slower speed of the two.</p>
<p>I can do nothing but feature this comment. You sir, deserve a medal for a great comment with really helpful advice! I also completely agree with everything you just said.</p><p>:)</p>
<p>I have a friend of a friend that does this through his church. They church gave up the space for him to gear up a shop and he gets people to donate old PC's and laptops and then he rebuilds them and gives them to the less fortunate. I worked as a R&amp;D Lab supervisor for 10 years, keeping pieces parts thinking I might someday use them, well that day never came so I donated them to this guy. He was more than happy to get them. I also had a friend that has an engineering club and they love getting stuff free. I would donate lithium-ion batteries to them. Some were brand new and some were cycled at the most 200 times, they were ecstatic to get those! It's always better to recycle and even better if you know where they are going and how people are happy to get them.</p>
<p>This is so true! One mans trash is another mans treasure. Its great to see that people are doing these amazing things! Your post is one of those posts that helps me to restore even just a little bit of faith in humanity. </p><p>Have a great day :)</p>
<p>Great work! </p>
<p><strong>Thanks! :) </strong></p>
<p>Great Job! I Have done this with an old laptop but I used Linux Mint 17.3 as I am not a big fan of Ubuntu (<a href="https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php">https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php</a>) But options you presented were good. I would also like to add PC Mag just published an article on the topic of SSD vs HDD for those that are interested <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404258,00.asp">http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2404258,00.asp</a></p>
<p>YES a man after my own heart! I love linux mint, although still remain faithful to my old puppy now and again, tell me have you ever tried puppy linux? if you have old hardware its the way to go! not so good for anything post 2010. Mint is better for that. Mint ;-)</p>
I have. I used to use a live disk or puppy for fixing windows computers. I don't remember why I chose it but I think it was because it was super small. I'm tempted to switch my laptop to Linux since I really don't like windows 10 but would lose fusion 360. Have any ideas on how I could deal with that? I was thinking of running it in a VM but don't have much experience with virtualization.
<p>I'm just refreshing a 2008 acer, it has good hardware, modified a power supply from a garage sale, bought a new key board for it. So far spent $27, but now I want to upgrade from the windows vista to Windows 8.1</p>
<p>My old ACER laptop runs W7 &amp; lighter versions of Linux as good as XP. But when I put W8.1 on it, performance dropped dramatically. It became too slow, &amp; sometimes un-responsive. But I guess it depends on the capabilities of the device. W8.1 will run smoother on dual core or better machines, or a single core of at least 2.5ghz with 2gb of RAM. If it only has a 4200rpm drive, that will be a real bottleneck. A modern high density 5200-7200rpm drive will be twice as fast. High density platters have more data per square inch, so seek, read, &amp; write times are much shorter, &amp; faster. If you must use W8.1 on it, you can disable un-needed services in the services menu to reduce bloat &amp; improve performance.</p>
mine is a daul core t3200 @ 2ghz with 4gb ram, you think i should use w7 instead, just need something that is still supported.
<p>W7 flies fast &amp; smooth on all my machines, even a 2005 1.8ghz single core laptop with only 1.5gb of RAM, &amp; it's original old hard drive. W7 will be supported at least until 2019. Probably longer because I don't see many corporate offices/workspaces, military, space agencies, &amp; governments accepting W8 or higher except for their private &amp; personal use as a communications or fun apps device. But we already have androids, ipads, &amp; iphones for that kind of stuff, so I don't think MS is gonna corner that market with their garbage new OS's. Just disable all services/bloat you don't need. Then deny all OS upgrade updates &amp; telemetry updates. By the time W7 isn't supported anymore, I'm sure something else will have filled the gap if microsoft keeps ignoring what it's best paying customers, governments, military, &amp; science labs want &amp; need windows for.</p>
<p>I'm catching what youre throwing BettyP3 but how about this?<br>and this is comng from a linux fan through and through. ever tried win 10 Pro<br>or indeed Win 10 Ultimate? I never thought i would actually enjoy using a microsoft product again ever since the demise of Vista!??!! <br>Boy was I proven wrong! I'm currently enjoying my second year of Windows!<br>I took the plunge when the free upgrade of Win 10 was offered and I'm happy I did. I will add that I was upgrading from a Pro version of W 7 so this makes a little bit of diff from the bland home economy versions and you at least get to delay updates to a certain extent! it is a little annoying however though that eventually my machine will just without warning shutdown and start updating because the time for the delayed pushed updates has come to be fully and finally shoved onto you. If I could have been bothered to splash out on the ultimate or enterprise version I guess I'd still be sitting pretty, er... that is if I could afford the type of high spec machine that would have the capabilities to run those versions of windoze...:-) </p>
<p>dont bother with windows 8.1 its microsoft's sloppy attempt at what they have almost achieved with Win 10. Ive never really like windows but I have to say, for the last year and a half Ive been using win 10 Pro and pleasantly surprised at its efficiency and the fact that it is optimised to a point, to run on older hardware, great for my Lenovo Thinkpad X201, which wasnt as as cheap as $27 I must admit , but I certainly didnt by it new! if I could be bothered I would install Linux Mint on a usb or even Puppy Precise and just boot the machine from the stick, both flavours of linux boot into RAM so even if you had it running from a CD (for Puppy) and a DVD (for Mint) once it had booted into RAM you can take the Disc out if you need ot use the disc drive for burning CDS/DVDS, but I just dont have the time for linux at the minute, too many other hobbys and mostly chores to do around the house, the joys of fatherhood ;-)</p>
I would survey my needs and verifyf support from your choice of Linux version prior to attempting conversion. Again, I find Ubuntu the best featured. Always stick with versions labeled &quot;long term supported&quot; so you are not caught up in experimentation.
<p> Indeed, the long term support versions usually have a large following, dynamic updates, and lots of proven quality. Some Linux versions are specifically tailored for older machines, even specific machines. The &quot;pre-Intel&quot; Apple imac, for example, seemed as hopeless as the manufacturer had long since moved on, Obsolescence for Apple Computers, (in my humble opinion), seems to occur at an even more aggressive pace than most, which is frustrating for those of us who can't afford to throw the baby out with the bath water...</p><p> I was encouraged to learn that there are special versions of Linux, just for the &quot;old&quot; &quot;Power PCs&quot;, though very architecture specific. It does require a little careful homework, but it's a good feeling to refresh a once expensive machine that still has the mark of durable quality, and keep it running anew, especially since it is fundamentally UNIX to begin with...</p><p> I've been around long enough to remember when PONG was crazy futuristic high tech, the internet was way not yet, and PC had no &quot;Windows&quot;..... (it was more like a big heavy locked door... and you had to learn ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics to unearth the key...) Then came &quot;Windows 85&quot;, e.g., The Commodore Amiga! Ran at a blazing 7 MHz, on a custom graphic chip set, with 1 megabyte of RAM, the advanced optional HD was a whopping 40 (?) megabytes, (maybe only 20.)...</p><p> I have no doubt I would still playing with that baby if I still had her. We live in amazing times! &quot;Great&quot; never really gets &quot;old&quot;, just &quot;classic&quot;! Great job everybody!</p><p>Thank you all so very much!</p>
<p>Yes particularly Puppy Linux such as the particular flavour Precise 5.7.1 great for running on almost anything pre 2010 and if you want to go back further nothing is quite so endearing as dear old puppy linux 5.2.1 the first linux distro I ever had the pleasure of using and fell in love with straight away! sadly they moved on very quickly from it, even Jemima's Saluki which was great for netbooks got left in the dust, I cant recall what she moved onto next but I think she started working on something similar to Saluki with the admirable Crusty Lobster! Not meaning to name drop here but I was a bit of a fan of these guys when I frequented Murga Linux! btw have you had the pleasure of watching the series &quot;Halt Catch Fire&quot;? I do beleive you may find it intriguing. ;-)</p>
<p>Also their &quot;Light&quot; versions may be best for very old machines.</p>
Be sure to check system capabilities before installing faster RAM. Installing 800Mhz RAM to replace 333Mhz will only show improvement if the system supports those speeds. Otherwise, the RAM will be under-clocked to match the system bus.
<p>I've been thinking that an old computer could serve as the core of a really great home robot, &quot;smart home&quot; system, etc., even if its performance isn't up to current standards. </p>
<p>You will be amazed how well that old system will run with a lean mean Linux distro on it. Look up my Dell D520 and you will see the dinosaur it is. But I run it next to my Lenovo and it beats it everytime and it is running Windows 10. </p>
Oh, yes, I put Puppy Linux on an old laptop and got quite a lot of use out of it after that. Might want to put in a new hard drive with the Linux install and salvage the old one for parts.
You have ignited my inside NERD...<br><br>This will not be the last you hear of this...<br><br>(Seriously though, a segway robot is on my project to-do list at the moment, running a full on desktop system because... &quot;Why not?&quot;)
Great! I've been thinking robots have been too expensive and too limited. There are cheap tablets with two cameras, motion detectors, and more computing power than hobby robots that cost thousands of dollars. Yet home robots have been nothing but toys with a rather limited set of commands and tricks, yet they have cost almost $100 or more. Now there's a new generation but they're charging a lot of money, and some, like Amazon's and the Jibo, have to be carried around. Take a really cheap tablet, re-arrange some of the parts and mount them in a mobile trash can use the WiFi to boost the brain power/storage capacity, finish with some good AI programming and available apps like face and voice recognition... you could have a great robot that learns its surroundings and learns about you and other things and changes its behavior and adds to its abilities and usefulness.... and doesn't cost more than those over-priced name-brand tablets.
<p>I am pleased to see that you mentioned the Linux Ubuntu OS as an option. I have several laptops and desktops in my home and on all of them, Linux Ubuntu or Linux Mint is an option and that is about all we use. The only time we ever use Windows is when we have to perform updates on our Garmin GPS devices for which we are unable to do through Linux. When installing Linux, you don't have to do away with your Windows OS because most Linux varieties come with the GRUB bootloader which allows you to have multiple operating systems and you can choose which to boot into at startup. Another awesome use of the Ubuntu OS is if you perhaps have a corrupted hard drive and you have data (i.e. pictures, documents, videos...) that you are unable to recover, you can burn the Linux image to a DVD and boot from it which gives you full functionality and access to your computer (including network/internet) thus allowing you to salvage your data by copying it to an external hard drive or USB stick. If you start using Linux you will find that it is just as comprehensive as Windows or Mac (you can even run it on a Mac too), is more efficient, has a smaller footprint, is more versatile, is infinitely more secure, and the list goes on. If you want to get a feel of Ubuntu, by booting from the DVD (on a corrupted computer or a normally functioning one) you will have full functionality and it will not make any changes to your computer drive at all unless you tell it to. Computing should be free once you buy your machine, and Linux is the way to make it so. Ubuntu comes out with its new version every six months (April &amp; October) and is totally free. It has a software center which is very much like the app store on iOS and Android and although there is some software that you must purchase, most of it is free.</p>
<p>One other piece you may consider replacing - the battery. You can get a new one off ebay for usually a decent price. If the computer has been a well used computer, that battery is probably not lasting as long as it used to. </p><p>Also, besides checking to see if the newer memory will fit your computer, you also need to find out what the maximum amount of RAM the computer will allow - hate to find out the 16 GB of ram you just bought won't work, if the laptop will only support 8GB maximum.</p>
<p>Dead or defective batteries in laptops could cause some models or laptops to become buggy, or not fully run at all. So try running your laptop with the old battery removed to see if it works better that way. If the battery is dead, or on it's last legs, there is a fire hazard involved with worn Lithium batteries. So you're safer removing the old battery. Amazon &amp; NewEgg have batteries for older devices too, for those afraid of private sellers at ebay.</p>

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