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Build a 4 x AA USB Altoids Battery

Build a 4 x AA USB Altoids Battery
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Not long ago, I upgraded the hard drive in my laptop from an 80GB 4200RPM to a 120GB 5200RPM. Not wanting to let my old 2.5" drive go to waste, I bought a rather nice USB enclosure for it.

Ah, but there was a catch. USB ports can only supply a maximum of 500 milliamps. The hard drive will need 550mA, meaning that the use of an AC adapter (or special USB cable) would be necessary under high load conditions.

I HATE those clunky AC wall adapters. I don't see why we should have to deal with them. Why can't we just have a centralized 12 volt power system in our buildings? We have it in all of our cars! That would be much more efficient.

The way this HD enclosure "solves" the power problem is to include a special USB Y-cable that can draw power from two ports. So one port handles power+data while the other just supplies power. This means that sometimes I'd have to give up two ports for one HD (or use an after-market AC adapter.) Not cool.

But I'm not here to complain. I'm here to awesome this problem out of existence. And we do that with some bits from Radio Shack, and, of course, a tin of Altoids.

I got the idea from ladyada's article where she built a 2 x AA battery encased in a smaller Altoids gum tin. While it works and is super portable, it utilizes a power-management system that requires exotic parts (but you can just buy the whole unit minus Altoids from her.) Plus the output current is limited to about 200mA. Nowhere near enough power for what I need.
 
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Step 1Get Some Snackage.

Get Some Snackage.
The beauty of using an Altoids tin for the project box is it comes with candy. While at the market, why not avail yourself to the fine selection of other snacks including (but not limited to) Pringles, Skittles, pizzas and beverages of your choosing. You're going to need them.

You'll first need to eat the Altoids. The candies make poor electronic components. You cannot store the candy in an alternate container. They will attract goblins.

I like the cinnamon flavor, but also quite partial to wintergreen. All other flavors are invalid and you are a horrible person for choosing them.
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May 21, 2009. 11:53 AMLinkiboy says:
Would this be able to output 2A at 5V theoretically (disregarding the plug)? And if so, for how long?
Mar 22, 2012. 11:22 AMtelfon says:
Nope. Since the batteries are connected in series you cannot add the capacities together. One battery can provide (in optimum conditions) 2.5 amps for 1 hour at 1.2 volts. Four batteries connected in parallel can provide 10 amps for 1 hour at 1.2 volts. Four batteries connected in series, as they are in this project can provide 2.5 amps for 1 hour at 4.8 volts.
Aug 4, 2011. 7:50 AMgcrdcn says:
Forget about using the "old" energizer batteries, they will discharge themselves in a week. Get the newer "Pre-charged" ones, Sanyo Eneloop or those called low self-discharge
Mar 29, 2010. 11:07 AMARJOON says:
hey don't do it like this it will fry your devices guys. it don't have any regulator and filter. also it woulf be good to have an led
Jan 29, 2011. 2:55 PMcegu says:
How can you use filter on DC. Regulating from 6V down with non NiMh maybe (but as he said, put a diode there, lowers the voltage). But not enough voltage will not harm the device.
Jan 13, 2011. 1:10 PMGoodIdeaGuys says:
Really cool. Duracell Procell AA's will power the Altoid battery longer than other AA's. Here's a page with some specs on Procells.

http://www.buybattery.com/
Jan 7, 2011. 2:03 PMVanila says:
Will this work with the new iPod Touch 4? *I dont want to ruin a relativly new ipod that was bought by the money I earned by working
Dec 14, 2010. 7:44 AMgrimrencher says:
wouldn't the 4xAA's give you 6v power? 1.5v x 4? i thought usbs only could use 5v max
Dec 27, 2010. 11:04 AMsharlston says:
My energizers are 1.2 volt each
1.2x4=4.8
Jun 18, 2010. 7:51 PMelyk0312 says:
Well, i have a project to look forward to now. I just bought a bluepack iPod backup battery for 10 bucks, but this definitely has more uses than simply charging an ipod. Here's an idea: use something slightly larger than an altiods can, and possible add slots for firewire as well. Btw, very nice and stylish final product.
Apr 25, 2010. 8:48 AMpeterjt says:
hey i have built something like this and if you can get a 4 AA batt pack at like radioshack it will fit with minimal perswasion, then bend back into place, and also unfortunately this design will not charge an ipod touch or newer ipods.
Feb 27, 2010. 6:01 AMj0n4h says:
 This just seems too good to be true. I thought you had to add resistors to the white and green wires for the iPod to charge?

Does anyone have any info if this charges a 2G iPod Touch?

May 31, 2007. 4:41 PMSLKestrel says:
Hey! awesome, but where can I find that motherboard bracket port or w.e? does it have to be a single port, and will anything (with possibly multiple ports) off of ebay work? thanks a lot-- my computer battery is so weak >.<
Jan 20, 2010. 1:58 PMdlosoccer10 says:
 i found mine in a computer and i think it should work with a multiple ports.
Aug 12, 2009. 8:48 AMpancho del rancho says:
can we use a extension cord cuz that haz a usb port
Jan 20, 2010. 1:57 PMdlosoccer10 says:
 you can but it holds very little voltage so it will take for ever to charge your ipod. plus its going to be very difficult to find a battery that has such little voltages.
Jan 7, 2010. 5:25 PMcomputo says:
hmmmmm........ (thinking...) k... PROBLEM... my ipod died. . . (sob sob, charges it, i think this is why i need this.)
Jan 7, 2010. 5:16 PMcomputo says:
Dat Color is Black... LOL                                                                                                Q


Serious note: I like it so far but im having second thoughts about the voltage and amprage... hmmm (dont wanna explode my electronics... im thinking of using it for my ipod touch)
Jan 7, 2010. 5:12 PMcomputo says:
i like instructables with jokes... LOL                                                      Q
Nov 18, 2009. 12:45 PMknektek says:
i have 4 aa 4600mah batteries off ebay for a total of £8 ( yes i do live in the U.K ).
Aug 14, 2009. 10:19 PMpancho del rancho says:
can we do this with a AAA batery holder break it like in the picture above and put AA's instead of AAA;s since it would fit
Aug 8, 2009. 9:40 PMZem says:
Couldn't you take a 4 AA battery holder, and do the same thing?
Aug 5, 2009. 11:11 AMoOANOo says:
in German are just peppermint xD
Jun 13, 2008. 2:38 PMmason0190 says:
ya cinnamon is good. once i went to a christmas rummage sale and got a cinnamon man. it looked and smelled like cinnamon so CHOMP!!! I soon figured out it was wood.
Jul 13, 2009. 7:58 PMBriguy9 says:
ouch. lol.
Jun 24, 2009. 9:40 PMjdmike13 says:
I gotta old ps2 with usb ports any way i can take parts off that to make this?
Jun 13, 2009. 5:50 PMray916mn says:
Great idea! My total cost of parts including the Altoids was under $5. A shortcut to making the battery holder is to get a 4 battery holder, cut it in half and file the two resulting edges down a bit. Glue the two halves in. A lot less gluing, a lot less hassle to get the holder to fit in the tin.
Jun 9, 2009. 7:13 AMmaerko says:
Can i charge an ipod touch with this thing? Will it charge the device, or it will only support the power to it?
Jun 8, 2009. 6:20 PMwiljo94 says:
where can i get the "Motherboard PCI-mount USB port"?
Jun 4, 2009. 2:31 PMRetro349 says:
INVADER ZIM?!?! oUo
Jun 4, 2009. 7:31 AMnick1987 says:
can use this to charge 4x aa batteries?
Feb 6, 2008. 8:40 AM2115476 says:
I just built a charger using 4 "AA" NiMH batteries (4.8 volts) and a USB plug. It works fine on my 2g Nano, but not on my son's 3g Nano. Does anyone know why, and how to make it work on the 3g Nano? After some research, I connected a 10k ohm resistor between the D- and 5v wires, and another one between the D+ and GND. That did not work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, either here or by direct e-mail (mg61251@yahoo.com). Thanks in advance for any help.
Jun 2, 2009. 6:11 AMit_dont_work says:
you need to put the resistor between the data pins of the usb. and use a voltage regulator. should work after that
Feb 6, 2008. 11:17 AM2115476 says:
It seems to work with my 2g Nano. I wonder if Apple did something with the circuitry in the 3g that would require other components. I took the iPod computer cable and plugged the 2g into a usb cig lighter plug and it works. I then tried it with the 3g and it didn't. My guess is that the plug converts the 12v car power to 5v at the usb port. I use this for my handheld gps and my palm Zire 31 with no problems.
Apr 6, 2008. 6:05 PMcarrierpilot1357 says:
look on the back of the ipod nano 3g and says:rated 5-30v@1amp max.That may help.
May 9, 2009. 2:11 PMSnipeye says:
I have an iPod touch 1st Gen, I want to know if I can just make this (not the "supplimentary instructuble" you provided, and if that will charge my ipod. I was also wondering if it would be possible to add a usb cable on the back, so when you plugged in the charger, it would charge?
May 5, 2009. 6:33 PMzodthekonquerer says:
Yeah, well think that ginger altoids are the best.
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