Build a 4 x AA USB Altoids Battery

 by Sitnalta
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Not long ago, I upgraded the hard drive in my laptop from an 80GB 4200RPM to a 120GB 5200RPM. Not wanting to let my old 2.5" drive go to waste, I bought a rather nice USB enclosure for it.

Ah, but there was a catch. USB ports can only supply a maximum of 500 milliamps. The hard drive will need 550mA, meaning that the use of an AC adapter (or special USB cable) would be necessary under high load conditions.

I HATE those clunky AC wall adapters. I don't see why we should have to deal with them. Why can't we just have a centralized 12 volt power system in our buildings? We have it in all of our cars! That would be much more efficient.

The way this HD enclosure "solves" the power problem is to include a special USB Y-cable that can draw power from two ports. So one port handles power+data while the other just supplies power. This means that sometimes I'd have to give up two ports for one HD (or use an after-market AC adapter.) Not cool.

But I'm not here to complain. I'm here to awesome this problem out of existence. And we do that with some bits from Radio Shack, and, of course, a tin of Altoids.

I got the idea from ladyada's article where she built a 2 x AA battery encased in a smaller Altoids gum tin. While it works and is super portable, it utilizes a power-management system that requires exotic parts (but you can just buy the whole unit minus Altoids from her.) Plus the output current is limited to about 200mA. Nowhere near enough power for what I need.
 
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Step 1: Get Some Snackage.

The beauty of using an Altoids tin for the project box is it comes with candy. While at the market, why not avail yourself to the fine selection of other snacks including (but not limited to) Pringles, Skittles, pizzas and beverages of your choosing. You're going to need them.

You'll first need to eat the Altoids. The candies make poor electronic components. You cannot store the candy in an alternate container. They will attract goblins.

I like the cinnamon flavor, but also quite partial to wintergreen. All other flavors are invalid and you are a horrible person for choosing them.
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mkls0 says: Jan 28, 2013. 6:39 PM
Do you know why it does not work with a Motorola? I have a Photon 4. Is there a way to make it work with a Motorola?
wiljo94 says: Jun 8, 2009. 6:20 PM
where can i get the "Motherboard PCI-mount USB port"?
dcastor in reply to wiljo94Nov 19, 2012. 5:02 PM
Try to locate an older, dead PC. maybe at thrift stores... Although you may have to talk to them cause electronics that don't work are often thrown out.
pancho del rancho says: Aug 14, 2009. 10:19 PM
can we do this with a AAA batery holder break it like in the picture above and put AA's instead of AAA;s since it would fit
dcastor in reply to pancho del ranchoNov 19, 2012. 4:59 PM
Yes... Just would not last as long.
techturtle2 says: Nov 10, 2012. 10:01 PM
Would you not need some sort of voltage regulation if you intended to charge more delicate equipment (like things that will be hurt if overpowered)? In the past I have done things of this kind, but I used a 7805 MOSFET to regulate the power.
deactivated-000000 says: May 21, 2009. 11:53 AM
Would this be able to output 2A at 5V theoretically (disregarding the plug)? And if so, for how long?
Sitnalta (author) in reply to deactivated-000000Aug 5, 2009. 12:14 PM
Theoretically, this will be able to supply 10 amps for 1 hour, or 2 amps for 5 hours. But there's no way a USB cable would be able to handle 2 amps.
telfon in reply to SitnaltaMar 22, 2012. 11:22 AM
Nope. Since the batteries are connected in series you cannot add the capacities together. One battery can provide (in optimum conditions) 2.5 amps for 1 hour at 1.2 volts. Four batteries connected in parallel can provide 10 amps for 1 hour at 1.2 volts. Four batteries connected in series, as they are in this project can provide 2.5 amps for 1 hour at 4.8 volts.
tutdude98 in reply to telfonAug 9, 2012. 6:42 AM
when its battery charged it have about 1.3 volts so its 5.2 volts
gcrdcn says: Aug 4, 2011. 7:50 AM
Forget about using the "old" energizer batteries, they will discharge themselves in a week. Get the newer "Pre-charged" ones, Sanyo Eneloop or those called low self-discharge
ARJOON says: Mar 29, 2010. 11:07 AM
hey don't do it like this it will fry your devices guys. it don't have any regulator and filter. also it woulf be good to have an led
cegu in reply to ARJOONJan 29, 2011. 2:55 PM
How can you use filter on DC. Regulating from 6V down with non NiMh maybe (but as he said, put a diode there, lowers the voltage). But not enough voltage will not harm the device.
Vanila says: Jan 7, 2011. 2:03 PM
Will this work with the new iPod Touch 4? *I dont want to ruin a relativly new ipod that was bought by the money I earned by working
grimrencher says: Dec 14, 2010. 7:44 AM
wouldn't the 4xAA's give you 6v power? 1.5v x 4? i thought usbs only could use 5v max
sharlston in reply to grimrencherDec 27, 2010. 11:04 AM
My energizers are 1.2 volt each
1.2x4=4.8
elyk0312 says: Jun 18, 2010. 7:51 PM
Well, i have a project to look forward to now. I just bought a bluepack iPod backup battery for 10 bucks, but this definitely has more uses than simply charging an ipod. Here's an idea: use something slightly larger than an altiods can, and possible add slots for firewire as well. Btw, very nice and stylish final product.
peterjt says: Apr 25, 2010. 8:48 AM
hey i have built something like this and if you can get a 4 AA batt pack at like radioshack it will fit with minimal perswasion, then bend back into place, and also unfortunately this design will not charge an ipod touch or newer ipods.
j0n4h says: Feb 27, 2010. 6:01 AM
 This just seems too good to be true. I thought you had to add resistors to the white and green wires for the iPod to charge?

Does anyone have any info if this charges a 2G iPod Touch?

SLKestrel says: May 31, 2007. 4:41 PM
Hey! awesome, but where can I find that motherboard bracket port or w.e? does it have to be a single port, and will anything (with possibly multiple ports) off of ebay work? thanks a lot-- my computer battery is so weak >.<
dlosoccer10 in reply to SLKestrelJan 20, 2010. 1:58 PM
 i found mine in a computer and i think it should work with a multiple ports.
pancho del rancho says: Aug 12, 2009. 8:48 AM
can we use a extension cord cuz that haz a usb port
dlosoccer10 in reply to pancho del ranchoJan 20, 2010. 1:57 PM
 you can but it holds very little voltage so it will take for ever to charge your ipod. plus its going to be very difficult to find a battery that has such little voltages.
computo says: Jan 7, 2010. 5:25 PM
hmmmmm........ (thinking...) k... PROBLEM... my ipod died. . . (sob sob, charges it, i think this is why i need this.)
computo says: Jan 7, 2010. 5:16 PM
Dat Color is Black... LOL                                                                                                Q


Serious note: I like it so far but im having second thoughts about the voltage and amprage... hmmm (dont wanna explode my electronics... im thinking of using it for my ipod touch)
computo says: Jan 7, 2010. 5:12 PM
i like instructables with jokes... LOL                                                      Q
knektek says: Nov 18, 2009. 12:45 PM
i have 4 aa 4600mah batteries off ebay for a total of £8 ( yes i do live in the U.K ).
Zem says: Aug 8, 2009. 9:40 PM
Couldn't you take a 4 AA battery holder, and do the same thing?
oOANOo says: Aug 5, 2009. 11:11 AM
in German are just peppermint xD
mason0190 says: Jun 13, 2008. 2:38 PM
ya cinnamon is good. once i went to a christmas rummage sale and got a cinnamon man. it looked and smelled like cinnamon so CHOMP!!! I soon figured out it was wood.
Briguy9 in reply to mason0190Jul 13, 2009. 7:58 PM
ouch. lol.
jdmike13 says: Jun 24, 2009. 9:40 PM
I gotta old ps2 with usb ports any way i can take parts off that to make this?
ray916mn says: Jun 13, 2009. 5:50 PM
Great idea! My total cost of parts including the Altoids was under $5. A shortcut to making the battery holder is to get a 4 battery holder, cut it in half and file the two resulting edges down a bit. Glue the two halves in. A lot less gluing, a lot less hassle to get the holder to fit in the tin.
maerko says: Jun 9, 2009. 7:13 AM
Can i charge an ipod touch with this thing? Will it charge the device, or it will only support the power to it?
Retro349 says: Jun 4, 2009. 2:31 PM
INVADER ZIM?!?! oUo
nick1987 says: Jun 4, 2009. 7:31 AM
can use this to charge 4x aa batteries?
2115476 says: Feb 6, 2008. 8:40 AM
I just built a charger using 4 "AA" NiMH batteries (4.8 volts) and a USB plug. It works fine on my 2g Nano, but not on my son's 3g Nano. Does anyone know why, and how to make it work on the 3g Nano? After some research, I connected a 10k ohm resistor between the D- and 5v wires, and another one between the D+ and GND. That did not work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, either here or by direct e-mail (mg61251@yahoo.com). Thanks in advance for any help.
it_dont_work in reply to 2115476Jun 2, 2009. 6:11 AM
you need to put the resistor between the data pins of the usb. and use a voltage regulator. should work after that
Sitnalta (author) in reply to 2115476Feb 6, 2008. 10:18 AM
Methinks the voltage is a little too low. I'm able to charge my 3G iPod for a little while, but once the voltage drops below 4.7, it stops. Really this thing is designed for high-load USB-powered devices- such as a hard drive. I've even powered fans, LED laptop lights (very handy), and even at one point a USB hub. However the iPods appear to be very finicky, and require more managed voltages.
2115476 in reply to SitnaltaFeb 6, 2008. 11:17 AM
It seems to work with my 2g Nano. I wonder if Apple did something with the circuitry in the 3g that would require other components. I took the iPod computer cable and plugged the 2g into a usb cig lighter plug and it works. I then tried it with the 3g and it didn't. My guess is that the plug converts the 12v car power to 5v at the usb port. I use this for my handheld gps and my palm Zire 31 with no problems.
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