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Build a Bass Fiddle

Build a Bass Fiddle

Introduction and motivation:

OK, this project might appear to push the envelope for some folks, especially those without a workshop and some machine tools, but I am putting up this Instructable mainly because it represents the belief that you should never NOT build something just because there's a big risk of failure.

After all, there are centuries of research and best practice, including highly sophisticated designs, world famous builders, critical selections of materials, glues, and finishes that go into building a fine musical instrument, and there are very exclusive guilds that carefully protect these secrets and techniques. So what in the world would any commoner in their right mind be thinking to even imagine that a good sounding, perfectly playable instrument could be designed and built by a rank -- well, lets just leave it at that.

 
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Step 1Design

Design
I am attaching the actual original drawing for this bass. It is a little worse for wear. A classically trained friend with a very lovely traditional bass allowed me to carefully measure all of the critical details of his instrument. Distance from the nut to the bridge, bridge height, string spacing everywhere, fingerboard length and height, distance to and length of the tail piece, and on and on, were all carefully recorded. I figured that whatever I would end up building, it would have to feel normal to an experienced upright bass player.

The most important part of an acoustic instrument is the sound board, such as the top of a guitar. A traditional bass has a top, or sound board, constructed from a large, thick slab of spruce from one of just a few forests on the planet (which of course are running out of trees). The design of the top (and back) of the instrument are carved in such a way that the arch shape, important for strength, is shaped from the thick block of wood and given a somewhat uniform thickness -- a huge challenge but one that carves away most of the original slab. Arch-top guitars, cellos, violins, and some mandolins also are made this way. Nowadays large CNC milling machines are used by some folks to do this critical carving.

This design was based on the idea that a sound board and back could be created from a uniform thickness piece of wood that would simply be bent or curved to provide the necessary strength to support the massive downward pressure of the strings on the bridge, but at the same time have good acoustic qualities. The big job of carving would be eliminated, and much less wood would be needed.

It also seemed like a good idea to make the sound board bigger. After all, this is a bass, and a bigger sound board should help emphasize lower frequencies, right? This is the reason for the "teardrop" shape of this instrument. The music most frequently played at our house is bluegrass, so I wasn't worried about being able to bow the instrument, however it is possible even with the wide body. I do expect comments that in the construction photos it looks like a small boat.

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Dec 7, 2011. 12:16 PMmattzink says:
apologies if someone has already asked this, but what kind of strings are you using with this bass? Gut? Steel? Synthetics of some sort?

Cool bass btw!
Dec 8, 2011. 8:12 AMmattzink says:
That's fine - I was curious. Steel strings create a lot more tension but have nice tone and sustain. However, using synthetic strings are great for rockabilly and the like, so this would be a cool bass/setup for such a gig.

Thanks for the follow up.
Aug 22, 2011. 8:21 PMWasagi says:
I love this! I play bass, and I've wanted an upright bass for years, but I've been appalled at how expensive they are, and unable to find a cheap used one, but I think that this is the project that I've been subconsciously looking for.

Right now, just trying to think out my build, and I would probably use plywood for most of it to cut down on costs. How much did the lacquer run, because I'm thinking about just using a nice wood stain, but the lacquer looks gorgeous. Thank you so so so much for posting this.


Jul 7, 2011. 7:58 AMDream Dragon says:
Beautiful work, and a lovely sound. Just goes to prove that the "conventional" way is not the ONLY way, and sometimes being a bit different can be fun. Thanks for sharing your work.
Jul 7, 2011. 10:21 AMDream Dragon says:
Unfortunately I don't think I could complete a project like that, but I have a great deal of respect for you and people who are able to do these things.
Jun 21, 2011. 1:39 PMmadscientist1399 says:
i love the shape and the sound but what can i change to build a double bass or an electric double bass(ok i know i sound stupid but i want to keep the awesome sound)
Nov 26, 2010. 10:51 PMClayton H. says:
How long would you say it would take to build one of these?

I'm taking an independent study class in woods at my school and need to decide on a project. If I'm in that class for an hour for 3 days of the week and an hour and a half for 1 day and the semester is 18 weeks long which equals to 81 total hours. Would that be adequate time to build this?
Sep 30, 2010. 9:49 AMmike patterson says:
Aren't many 'exclusive' guilds left--as pointed out earlier internet makes info available--site you might like, and I know they would like your bass--www.mimf.com--they like off the wall instruments--and normal ones

Your bass is great and a wonderful jump from tradition---looks great.
Nov 6, 2010. 7:09 AMStickStoneBone says:
"Aren't many 'exclusive' guilds left"

Trade secrets are trade secrets. Good luck getting any Masters to tell you without being family or colleague. The interwebs are nice yes, but I'm a Master Stone Mason... There no way in hell I'm going to tell my trade secrets, secrets that took me years to get from my Dad, and still others I developed on my own. I'm not diminishing Courtervideo's work. I'm just saying, the trade secrets are out there.
Oct 15, 2010. 3:10 AMcapt. caveman says:
To me it looks easy, I'm sure I'm gonna find out the hard way that it's not. I am definitely gonna have fun with this build. thanks for the post.
Oct 12, 2010. 5:44 PMpaleotool says:
Thanks for the audio/video. This is a great project and beautifully done. I was sad to not see it in the Woodworking final.
Oct 9, 2010. 6:53 PMthinkpadt30 says:
Beautiful instrument! It takes guts and determination to run headlong into a project like that, especially when it will take so much time and money to complete. I'm in awe! How much would you say it would have cost you if you had bought everything- the wood, sealer, glue,etc?
Beautiful singing, too! Who are the singers? I would love to hear more of their music!
Oct 8, 2010. 5:13 PMblackcorvo says:
Hehe, looks like a boat XD

I LIKE IT :D
Oct 4, 2010. 5:35 PMrimar2000 says:
VOTED!
Oct 1, 2010. 12:16 AMdiscontinuuity says:
Very cool! Any chance you can upload an mp3 or video of how it sounds?
Sep 29, 2010. 5:33 PMBestThing says:
Wow that looks really great. So professional. Great job!
Sep 29, 2010. 8:51 AMGOODGHOST says:
Very Cool!
I have only heard an octave mandolin and would also love to hear how your bass fiddle sounds.


This type of project is a great example of the full potential of the modern virtual guild. We are no longer limited or isolated, and can access tradition directly through the object itself. Its success is dependent on your craftsmanship and personal dedication. Thank you for sharing.
Sep 28, 2010. 3:03 PMfinky555 says:
Very nice article, however beyond what I could make it look like. Nice job, it looks exceptional. How about recording a few bars and loading the sound bite up, it would be nice to hear how it sounds?
Sep 27, 2010. 3:30 PMjbrecken says:
Based on the shape, it's tempting to call it a "bass boat."
Sep 26, 2010. 5:02 PMrimar2000 says:
Four words: A-WE-SO-ME!

Congratulations, this is a great great work!
Sep 26, 2010. 3:46 PMdchall8 says:
Wow!

A friend of mine is a luthier and I bought a bass from him.  He builds violins and mandolins, not basses; however, we have had many conversations about the complexities and over complexities of making instruments.  

I like your idea.  I don't see any reason to stick to construction tradition simply for tradition's sake.  For a picked bass there is no reason to go with the traditional shape.  This construction is simpler and might result in bigger sound.  Your approach to the sound peg is interesting, too.  That is the nemesis of traditional instruments.  Certainly your approach opens creative doors to making such an instrument.  Who knows?  You might have started a movement?

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