Build a Microwave Transformer Homemade Stick/Arc Welder

 by stasterisk
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I had no idea making a DIY welder would be so easy to do. And, it's pretty much FREE!

Additionally, the stick welder you get is definitely better than anycheap commercial welder you can buy.
Why is this homemade thing better than something you can buy? Because when you factor in shipping and labor and the little bit of retail markup - the companies that make typical cheap buzz boxes will skimp on copper as much as possible. Whereas you can use enough copper in this to make something really juicy, and still spend less, to nothing, compared to a store-bought arc welder.

So here's what you need to build a welder:
- Two beat up old microwaves
- Some 10 gauge wire
- Wire nuts

People throw out microwaves all the time, if you keep your eyes on the curbs.
Or, you can get microwaves at the local thrift store for $10 each.
Try the warehouse that processes donations - they have to pay to get rid of tons of broken ones.

Stuff you need for welding:
- Welding helmet ($16 and up)
- Welding rods ($6)
- Vice grip or purpose-built electrode holder ($6 for either)
- C clamp for grounding clamp
- Gloves
- Thick nonflammable (leather) clothing that will cover your arms

Disclaimer: High Voltage ELECTRICITY and lots of CURRENT! Heat, electrocution, and DANGER! You could die and you could go blind.

That said, try this at home!

See this for a lot of welding safety tips

Here are the really good how-tos that this project is informed by:
build a 70 amp welder
the tiny tim welder by tim williams
home made welding machine (via afrigadget)

Dan Hartman's how-to is good for reference, too.

And here's the quickest way to make a DC welder with a bunch of 12 volt batteries.
 
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Step 1: Dissect the Microwaves

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Invite your non-hardware oriented pals over to help help dissect your donor appliances.
They'll love it. David Grosof donated one of these microwaves under the condition that we take it apart together.

Good safety tip:
You'll find a gigantic capacitor inside the microwave. It looks like a metal can with two tabs on top.
Short it out to make sure it doesn't have any leftover charge on it, before you poke your hands anywhere near. Just put a screwdriver or something metal you aren't connected to, across the two metal terminals shown here.
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alahamm says: May 16, 2013. 6:27 PM
Hi star; I just got the secondary out and I see that the primary is separated from the filament winding by a few metal plates. SHOULD or SHOULDN´T I remove these?
Thanks; VERY useful ´ible.
ktekishikuchichiku says: Mar 11, 2013. 8:13 PM
Sandra,

First, I offer my condolences as well. I mean no offense what-so-ever in my following comments, as this is neither funny nor pleasing. With that said, I find it somewhat rude that you imply that this instructables author may be partially to blame for your sons horrific accident. Nobody forced him to pursue his endeavor into the field of high voltage experimentation. Despite the authors attempt at sarcasm (That said, try this at home!), there is warning about serious injury and possibly death.

There are many different projects that parts inside a microwave can be used for, all of which are quite dangerous. To assume that this article in specific is responsible for this tragedy, is not fair to the author or the instructables community. A more fitting comment would have been something to the effect of "We lost a loved one due to an accident caused by his curiosity of electronics and a high voltage project. Please, for the sake of your safety, be careful."

Again, I am sympathetic and sorry for your loss.
crazy-blender in reply to ktekishikuchichikuMar 26, 2013. 10:52 AM
i am sorry
somebody12345 says: Mar 10, 2013. 11:17 AM
lol the link for welding rods actully goes to a drip irrigation kit maybe you should fix it
sphawes says: Feb 9, 2013. 7:48 AM
Ive built mine using two transformers wired in series. I was only able to get about fifteen winds in my secondary coil for each of them. Being a new welder, i get the stick stuck to my piece quite often, causing my fuse to blow. Is there a way i could wire it up better so that this wont happen, or is it just a matter of not sucking so much at welding?
HeatUp says: Feb 6, 2013. 10:46 AM
plz answer me how much i need turns and how much wire plz answer thanks:)
HeatUp in reply to HeatUpFeb 6, 2013. 10:48 AM
oh and i live in 220 zone
Rebelturtle says: Jan 26, 2013. 6:22 PM
I love the 1980's electronic baseball game in the back of the one pic. I remember having one of those and burned many of hours playing that game.
Nice build also, love all the idea's.
HeatUp says: Jan 12, 2013. 3:15 AM
how much i need wire if i live in 220 zone?plz answer
Tempted says: Dec 28, 2012. 4:45 AM
The steps here are very vague and difficult to read. Are there any more user friendly plans laying around?
AllendaleGreen says: Dec 27, 2012. 5:18 PM
I've a question about the power source(s) for this welder; could it be wired to work with a 220v AC (U.S.) service as opposed to plugging it in to two separate 110v AC circuits?

I'm not an electrician but it seems like it would be possible to tie the neutral leads from the transformers to the 220v neutral, connect the hot lead from one transformer to one of the 220v hot wires and the other transformer hot lead to the other 220v hot wire.
mykiscool says: Dec 14, 2012. 8:07 PM
Just want to let you know that the welding rod links to an irrigation kit.
billbillt says: Nov 14, 2012. 12:36 PM
Great!!...
PheonixZip says: Oct 3, 2012. 5:17 PM

Now I have my transformers prepped and I'm not trying to spend money here, and I've used up my 10ga wire on new lighting and outlets in my garage. So I have 3 sets of 8ga jumper cables (stranded) or 12/14ga (solid) idr but about a good 50' left. Reccomendations on what I should do and how many wraps? Thank you.

Also one or two AC inputs, US 110VAC
m5industriesinc says: Sep 22, 2012. 7:58 PM
whos the gurl?
lloydrmc says: Aug 15, 2012. 12:40 AM
Great 'able. The Harbor Freight electrode holder you list has since been discontinued, and the SKU reused. This costs a little more, and it should do the trick: http://www.harborfreight.com/200-amp-electrode-holder-97892.html
stasterisk (author) in reply to lloydrmcAug 20, 2012. 11:31 AM
updated the link — thanks!
DrDontDoDis says: Aug 19, 2012. 12:57 PM
Thanks for the instructable! My first time welding and it works like a charm!
stasterisk (author) in reply to DrDontDoDisAug 20, 2012. 11:30 AM
That's what I love to hear! Post pics?
theloyz says: May 29, 2012. 4:32 PM
I don't know if this just sounds dumb, but since i'm Kind if new at this kind of thing I'll ask anyway. if you wanted the most output amps, couldn't you just have like two turns of super thick wire on the secondary coil?
Easymkay in reply to theloyzAug 5, 2012. 12:30 AM
A few months ago my nephew asked me why dogs noses are cold, so there are no dumb questions. The reason that would not work is that the amps and volts are inversely proportional to each other given the input. The inputs overall work capacity force must necessarily equal the outputs, because that's the total energy available. I, too, thought that amps was the chief factor to a powerful weld, and it still is. However, without enough volts [pressure] into the output, the weld will not begin or maintain, for these purposes. For a spot welder, per se, you would be correct, as they evidently go higher on the amps, way lower on the volts, but will only minimally "weld" thin metal. Here is a project of your exact description: #4 gauge thick output wire, only a few turns, huge amps, only a couple volts: http://hackaday.com/2009/06/23/how-to-build-your-own-spot-welder/
fidgety2 says: Jun 18, 2012. 8:04 AM
I have a couple of questions
1. How many power cords are actually plugged into the wall 1 or 2
2. Should the secondary cords be linked together between the two MOTs
3. Could someone please take detailed well lit pictures of how their welder is wired and post them

Thank you
Fidgety2
dumpstar in reply to fidgety2Jun 28, 2012. 5:20 AM
I would love to see a reply to this comment-- these are the same questions I have!!!!
Easymkay in reply to dumpstarAug 4, 2012. 11:09 PM
OK, I'll try:
1) It's confusing [although they did a phenomenal job on this] because in the circuit drawing there are two wall receptacle cords supplying the x-formers, yet in the real life animated pic they have evidently supplied both x-formers with only one, which is probably wired in parallel. If both x-formers were inputted in series, instead of parallel, from one cord, it shouldn't work because of a division of the overall input voltage. Here in my region newer houses seem to have two separate cables in the wall, each supplying one of the two outlets in each individual receptacle. Therefore, i submit that there are good reasons to have two cords supplying your unit, and good reasons NOT to have just one, regardless of how hefty that one may be. 2 cords into any two outlets will take advantage of more power [and safe, third prong grounding] than any one under normal circumstances. With just one cord you are more likely to make your home wiring the limiting factor.
2) Yes, they should. Connect one of the wires you wound from one x-former, to one of the ones you wound from the other. You then need to follow their testing instructions. Remaining 2 of 4 wire leads that you wound go to the weld...doesn't matter which because this is AC not DC.
1) Will post pics ASAP. Meantime follow the "schematic" AKA wiring diagram/drawing that is obviously hand drawn...the one with pictures of two wall plugs and squiggly lines. I suggest you either put this project in wood, connect the third [green] wire from the wall to your chassis if using metal, or seek further advice on how to safely ground your project.
archer1232 says: Oct 24, 2009. 7:01 PM
Do you even hook up the green ground wire to anything on the transformer? I dont get it. :/
TimAnderson in reply to archer1232Oct 24, 2009. 7:38 PM
green goes to the cabinet. It's not supposed to carry any current. It's just there so a a loose wire that touches the enclosure will blow a fuse instead of giving you shocks.
Easymkay in reply to TimAndersonAug 4, 2012. 10:08 PM
This is an interesting issue to me: just ground the chassis vs. the chassis and the x-former cores in series vs. ...go even further and INVOLVE the ground in the circuit, like this guy implies: http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/src/mot/index.html Personally, I wont have a metal "chassis" to ground, out of healthy respect for the overall energy involved...my unit will be entombed in wood. That doesn't mean shorts couldn't arise elsewhere. This contention might be moot in cases where a salvage home electronics input cord has a ground less sturdy than its own main two leads, which I've seen in all manner of home electronics...but not in my case because I'm making sure the ground in my project is fatter then the Romex gauge in my girlfriends wall [not my house] where I will christen this beast. BTW, huge fan. "Tool shed full of reality"...sublime.
microedit in reply to TimAndersonJul 14, 2011. 11:54 PM
About the three prongs...one is ac electricity always on, the next is used only if there is a short to it... i.e. bad wiring....the third the government added for the housings of appliances, so a short would not get to a person touching the appliance. But ...a double short would still get you (very rare!). Also, the second wire is necessary to complete the AC circuit but never has juice...its just a conductor (unless a short).
philmcclure in reply to microeditJul 8, 2012. 8:54 AM
I hate necro'ing threads, but I have to respond to this. In the U.S., the three prongs are hot, neutral and ground.

The ground is the round prong on the bottom of the plug.  The ground carries overcurrent and is required for GFCI's to work. Ideally, the ground should be bonded to the frame and any other metallic surface that could become energized if the circuit shorts. This is for your protection -- current will follow the path of least resistance, the ground wire makes sure that current goes to ground through it instead of through you.

The hot prong, on modern plugs, is generally straight.  If you're staring straight at the plug, the hot is on the left.  The hot prong is the current carrying conductor coming straight from the breaker panel.  It will shock the piss out of you.

The neutral prong, on modern plugs, is generally flared out a bit more than the hot prong.  The neutral prong is the current carrying conductor that goes to the neutral bar of your circuit breaker panel. If you're staring straight at the plug, the neutral is the one on the right.

The NEUTRAL DOES CARRY CURRENT! Don't make the mistake of thinking it doesn't and get the shock of your life.


HSPrzepa in reply to TimAndersonAug 27, 2010. 7:07 AM
should the green be hooked up to both cabinets? and a cabinet is the transformer right? lol
DirttrackinRedneck in reply to TimAndersonMar 12, 2010. 7:44 PM
It wouldnt be a bad idea to hook the green wire up to both the transformers so no madder what you do or wat happens they stay grounded.   
archer1232 in reply to TimAndersonOct 25, 2009. 10:54 AM
So basically you are just hooking up two wires to each tranformer(positive+negative)
taoybb-TH says: Aug 1, 2012. 9:59 AM
Have to said thank you! I'm done it too! Thank you again!

Here's mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYc9lzQxKDA

I got 33VAC and it work well.
OVERLOADED says: Feb 21, 2012. 4:42 AM
does wiring the sec in series also give you double the voltage ?
philmcclure in reply to OVERLOADEDJul 8, 2012. 8:34 AM
No. Wiring in series boosts current. Wiring in parallel boosts voltage.
jps99 in reply to philmcclureJul 11, 2012. 8:01 AM
Sorry, but wiring in series boosts voltage, not current.. Two 6 volt batteries in series gives you 12 volts. In parallel, gives you 6 volts at twice he current.
philmcclure in reply to jps99Jul 11, 2012. 7:24 PM
Sorry, you're right. In series current stays the same, in parallel voltage stays the same. Long night.
OVERLOADED in reply to philmcclureJul 12, 2012. 12:16 AM
correct,no need to be sorry for nature lol. it is what it is.
OVERLOADED in reply to philmcclureJul 8, 2012. 11:08 AM
thx wasint too sure about trans or even why i asked that question so long ago?
fidgety2 says: Jun 21, 2012. 9:34 AM
ok i have everything hooked up and am ready to weld i have 7018 rods will these work please advise

thank you
fidgety2
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