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Build a Microwave Transformer Homemade Stick/Arc Welder

Step 2Prepare the Transformers

Prepare the Transformers
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Chop and and knock out the secondary (thin wire) windings.
Don't nick or damage the primary windings in any way.

If you do, you could create shorts where two windings conduct to each other, allowing electricity to bypass certain parts of the coil, making effectively a smaller coil, and creating something different than what you expect at the output. Or, you might chop the connection entirely, ruining the primary. So do your best to keep it intact.
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Oct 26, 2011. 6:13 AMsandra.nunn says:
On July 5, 2011 our son was accidentally electrocuted to death in our driveway. He was building, what we and the police believe to be this apparatus. The last website on his computer was this one and there was a microwave oven that was partially disassembled on his bed. He was not wearing gloves. He was 20 years old and is expecting a baby. The loss we have suffered is great. We feel that your site minimized the actual danger involved when working with such a powerful high voltage piece of equipment. Your warning disclaimer was followed by the statement: "That said, try this at home!". Further down your site states "Invite your non-hardware oriented pals to help dissect your donor appliances." Twenty year-olds tend to see themselves as invincible, and danger and death sometimes doesn't seem real to them. Your statement, "You could die...", really did happen- to our son.
May 23, 2012. 6:24 AMBalerich says:
I read your comment about your sonshorrible accident and I am now deeply moved to express my deepest condolence. I am a father and my son means the world to me.. The loss of your son is a tragedy that hurts even to imagine. I will take this as a serendipitous lesson and will reaccess my aproach to safety. I will strive to be wise and to practice patience. Thank you for helping us. Farewell
Jan 9, 2011. 1:17 AMdoityoureself says:
I am getting ready to rewire my transformers, I have a ton of 6ga copper wire but it has no insulation on the wire, any ideas on what to use, other that electrical tape?
Jan 9, 2011. 5:55 PMstasterisk says:
Are you sure it is uninsulated, or is it enamel coated? i.e., If you take a small piece of it and nick it with a blade, does the copper seem to be of a different color than it is on the surface? (this would suggest enamel insulation, in which case you are ready to go.)

Also, do NOT insulate bare copper with electrical tape to make it insulated: your inductors will be vibrating and getting knocked about (no matter how careful you are) and the tape will eventually slip and create a short somewhere.
Jan 24, 2011. 1:19 PMevjim says:
Enamel coating is not enough for the welding environment. Enamel can easily be scratched off when working around metal and it will be hard to tell if the coating is still there since it is a similar color.

Be safe and buy some heat shrink tubing or buy new wire. It really won't cost much.
Feb 19, 2011. 7:58 PMac-dc says:
That is false, the wire already on the transformer is enamel coated, besides which you aren't going to be attacking the welder with pieces of metal - which could be pretty dangerous to do to ANYTHING plugged into an AC outlet.

Further, "new wire" for transformer windings IS enamel coated. There is a catch though, when you are winding wire on an existing welded-together E core transformer it is very easy to scrape the wire against the metal core which could scrape off the enamel (or other *painted on* insulation).

Also, don't step on cracks or cross a black cat's path. ;)
Oct 23, 2010. 9:37 AMStyki says:
OK so if you do Nick a primary winding, would it be correct to think that you can repair it with carefully placed solder ?
Nov 14, 2010. 11:04 AMTeslaling says:
DON'T SOLDER IT!! YOU WILL BURN THE ENAMEL OFF THE SURROUNDING WIRES!!! THAT IS REALLY BAD!! Seriously, if you nick the primary wiring too bad, its better to just get another MOT! A small nick can be taped up with electrical tape, or covered in glue, though.
Apr 8, 2010. 12:05 PMwbsbadboy says:
Hi.
Pictures 1, 2, 5, and 8 are not loading.
Would you please check them and repost if needed.
Thank you very much.
Jun 7, 2009. 4:55 PMMetalcaster14 says:
Sorry forget my other question I figured it out lol. However, I see people saying not to remove the shunts. Is that the divider between the primary and secondary? There is some shiny paper that I've seen in a soldering iron before lining the slots. Do I remove that or is that a shunt? I think it's also heat resistant or something
Jul 15, 2009. 10:27 PMThe Lightning Stalker says:
You can remove the paper/mica everywhere except around the shunts. The shunts regulate the coupling between the primary and secondary. Removing them all could possibly cause a dead short when you go to weld. Less shunts means better coupling and higher current, but the windings get hotter. If more current is what you're after, just use more/bigger transformers.
Dec 27, 2007. 2:01 PMThe Lightning Stalker says:
I think you also need to leave in the "shunt" laminations - the stacks of metal plates that are between the primary and secondaries.
Jun 17, 2008. 7:51 PMjdpower says:
Uh oh. Shunt? How much trouble am I in if i have allredy removed these?
Jun 18, 2008. 9:00 PMThe Lightning Stalker says:
It depends on how well the transformer is made, but you're probably going to overheat it and blow your circuit breaker every time you try to strike an arc.
Nov 7, 2008. 7:56 PMbgineat says:
What do you think about the fact that the primary windings in newer transformers are made of aluminum instead of copper like the old ones. Do you think there is a difference does it matter?
Nov 8, 2008. 8:24 PMThe Lightning Stalker says:
     It can make a big difference if the windings aren't a heavier gauge to compensate for the higher resistivity of aluminum. Aluminum wire of the same gauge cannot handle as much current.
Jun 7, 2009. 4:59 PMMetalcaster14 says:
Resistivity? I believe the term is resistance.
Jun 7, 2009. 5:17 PMThe Lightning Stalker says:
Yes and no. Resistance is an arbitrary measurement of a certain conductor, for instance a piece of aluminum wire. Resistivity is a general measurement of the resistive properties of a material, in this case aluminum.
Jun 19, 2008. 11:00 PMjdpower says:
Is it posable to replace these and with what? Thanks
Jun 20, 2008. 10:36 PMtrigalg693 says:
If you have them you should be able to put them back in I think.
Jun 20, 2008. 11:45 AMThe Lightning Stalker says:
You're going to have to start over with a new transformer. Chances are the laminations from a different one aren't going to fit right.
Jul 15, 2009. 1:03 AMSaint_Awesome says:
Why not just shove them back in? In any case they're just a stack of light steel sheets anyway, something anybody could make easily.
Jul 15, 2009. 10:20 PMThe Lightning Stalker says:
If you still have them, then by all means. Making them however requires special tools. Each lamination is individually coated so that it is electrically insulated from the others. This prevents eddy currents. They are also very flat. It's not something you could do with hand shears/tin snips.
Jun 7, 2009. 4:23 AMMetalcaster14 says:
for the "Low-voltage winding for filament current or somesuch thing to feed the magnetron." (on the first picture what are you referring to? I see two wires coming out. Do I remove the two red glue coated bendy wires entirely?
Sep 7, 2008. 10:51 AMdionysus2008 says:
in preparing my transformer, i used my disc grinder and grind off the welding at the sides and just hit off the bottom of the core. then i side out the coils. its seems like a waste to destroy a perfectly good secondary coil so i kept it and dropped in my primary back and used some heavy duty welding wire to wrap my secondary, oh its much much easier to wrap it with the bottom of the core gone then when i was done just bolt it up and ready for use
Apr 17, 2009. 12:15 AMeric m says:
i might have to do it that way too. hitting a rod is not working for me. Ruining the secondary like that is a waste.
Feb 2, 2009. 11:48 AMautophile says:
Agreed it's easier to wind, but the circuit formed by the magnetic flux going round and round the metal of the transformer is probably not amused by the sudden decrease in magnetic conductivity when it hits a poorly re-attached side. Make sure the side is firmly attached by bolts, C-clamps, or by re-welding, otherwise your transformer's efficiency will be vastly reduced.
Apr 30, 2009. 11:14 PMeric m says:
exactly right. My transformer turned into a LOUD magnetic speaker. LOL. I need to reweld it. Find a good puch/dowel and just hammer the copper out. Don't ruin the metal laminations.
Jun 19, 2008. 10:50 PMtrigalg693 says:
Meh I'll make another post. I'm pretty sure you can saw or cut using other methods the welds holding the "I" part of the transformer to the "E" part, which would allow you to pull the coils out (have to cut off any attachments to the steel part of the transformer first) then you can wind the new secondary more easily, then just put the primary back on and somehow get the I to stay on. The tinytim carbon arc welder was made like this and has a picture showing a C clamp holding the transformer together, but maybe you could use lots of packaging tape or something. I had ambitions even before I saw this, went ahead and cut into the coils. Only after I wasted a lot of time cutting it and trying to get the stuff out did I look closely at the transformer, and I realized the welds did nothing but to hold it together, and simply cutting 2 of the welds holding the "I" on would allow removal of the windings.
Mar 25, 2009. 7:37 PMScubaholic says:
A picture paints a thousand words. Would you show us a pic of what your talking about?
Jan 21, 2009. 7:38 PMNoPegs says:
There's two schools of DIY here. Some people bash the 120v windings out and put their secondary there. For two reasons. Higher current at lower voltages, and also significantly less likely to pop your circuit breakers when switched on.

If you do it this way, just watch out for grounded center taps in the HV side windings. if you run into these, just make sure the laminations themselves are insulated. Don't lay two center tap grounded transformers on your steel welding table. they'll either short out fantastically, or magnetize pretty well opposite each other and possibly collide.

I've made them both ways. I one of my friends had an addiction. He couldn't not pull over and pick up junk left curbside. He made a tidy profit stripping stuff down and selling the metals and or parts for scrap or on e-bay. I told him Eric, how soon can you get me 6 intact microwave transformers, he said Well, gimme a week. He had them in 3 days. I rewound two with 8ga THHN wire in the HV winding space, and two with it in the 120v winding space. The ones in the 120v side produce substantially more current, good for welding thick stuff, or carbon arc torching. The two on the HV side produced more voltage at less current, good for small gauge steel and aluminum (yes, you can arc aluminum, no, its not pretty...) The other two transformers ended up in a crazy steam-punk/mad scientist crossover Jacobs ladder that could be used as a bedside *lamp* and ozone comb sterilizer. :)

Oh, and definitely save the shunt plates. you can take them out later to adjust to your tastes (I was accustomed to welding with "real" commercial welders, so I adjusted mine to match) As this is how the old Lincoln Electric buzzboxes regulated current, the crank on the front moved the shunts in and out, and the voltage adjust just switched taps around.
Jun 23, 2008. 12:18 AMmicrowavedisplayDOTcom says:
If you get steel shavings stuck in the corneas of your eyes, the doctors have a good chance of getting them out with very strong magnets. But if you get copper or other non-magnetic shavings or chips stuck in your eyes, you'll have to go under the knife. Safety glasses are so much cheaper! Use 'em!!
Oct 11, 2008. 4:25 PMnetbuddy says:
Yes eye protection is a must regardless of what your working on or with. The cost of eye sight... $£$£$£ Priceless A pair of safety goggles £5
Aug 6, 2008. 6:32 PMSuperJesus says:
Oh man, reading that cracked me up. Mostly because not 3 days ago I decided "pffhhh, i don't need stupid goggles, I'm just cuttin a plastic tube with my dremel." Not 20 seconds into cutting, shards of pvc pipe fly up and make love with the little space between my eye ball and eye lid. Sharp, jagged little pieces that took 4 days and about 2 million blinks to get out. Not a fun 4 days people, not fun at all. ALWAYS wear your glasses people. And no, i didn't go to the hospital. Being poor, i was left with two options 1:get plastic shards outta my cornea or 2: be able to eat for the next two weeks. Hunger won.
Jun 23, 2008. 12:15 AMmicrowavedisplayDOTcom says:
Where are those safety glasses?! Please use safety glasses when using power tools, chiseling, or hammering.

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