Build your own intercom or walkie talkie out of two old cordless phones

 by RTourn
We all have old phones. Why not turn them into an intercom for your kids tree house. Or turn two old cordless phones into home base walkie talkie. Here is how.
 
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Step 1: Materials

In-Line coupler (I got mine at Frys for 1.49)
9 volt connector (radio shack, or cut it out of some old piece of junk)
wire-nippers
milk (helps keep you hydrated and keeps bones strong)
Dremel
Soldering iron
solder
300 ohm resistor or close to it
black electrical tape
two telephones
two telephone cords. (CAT 1 cable)
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schand5 says: Apr 26, 2013. 11:27 PM
I will try it first
nodoubtman says: Apr 17, 2013. 7:32 AM
what are you doing with green wire? then?
RTourn (author) in reply to nodoubtmanApr 17, 2013. 12:11 PM
Nothing, don't cut the green wire.
bgtrammell says: Sep 23, 2012. 1:54 PM
I'm using two single slot pay phones, rewired as intercom, for childrens play. I have the power source connected directly to the handsets with a 330ohm resistor. I have audio but with a loud buzz. I've tried w &w/o resistor. all various wiring combinations and varied voltage from 9 - 15 - 24vdc but can't eliminate the buzz that over rides the voice. Is there a fix?
RTourn (author) in reply to bgtrammellSep 24, 2012. 1:00 PM
First try using a 9 Volt battery. If that fixes the problem then the issue was your power supply was noisy. The easiest fix would be to use a rechargeable 9volt. There is a way to fix this by adding some high capacitance capacitors to the circuitry, but I don't think I can adequately describe how to do that in a few paragraphs without knowing your setup.

Or you may be getting electromagnetic interference from the house power lines which run at 60Hz (US). You can verify this is the case by wiring you're phones along a different path away from power cords and make sure you don't bundle the phone wires with electrical wires.

I hope one of these solutions works for you.
ilpug says: Feb 29, 2012. 8:26 PM
I really want to make this now, seeing as how I have a ton of old phones. I might use a rechargeable battery though.
dvandevender says: Oct 18, 2011. 3:55 PM
Is the flavor of the milk optional? Is there any flavor you suggest? Thanks!
lug big lug in reply to dvandevenderFeb 16, 2012. 6:36 PM
No, you must use Orange flavored milk. If Orange flavored milk is not availible, any citrus or acidic fruit can be used as a substitute.
project_builder says: Feb 14, 2012. 4:34 PM
Is this wireless? I want to make one for my woods
s196635 says: Jan 29, 2012. 6:01 PM
Does any one know how to use the dial pad if i wanted to use button number 1 to ring/connect me to that phone because i have it conected to my house phone line( Not easy)
Any ideas ??
xucaen says: Nov 3, 2011. 12:54 PM
I have no clue what you are doing. How do these phones talk to each other? What are you doing with that battery? Can you do this with two cell phones as these people suggest you can do? http://blog.dialaphone.co.uk/2007/12/13/14-things-to-do-with-an-old-cell-phone/
jalke116 says: Oct 1, 2011. 11:31 PM
Can you use more than 2 phones?????
agnestre says: Sep 12, 2011. 8:58 AM
Is 270 ohm 2W OK?
leggomylegoeggo says: Apr 9, 2011. 5:50 AM
exactly what do the cords connect to? from what, to what?
Smart Plan says: Mar 14, 2011. 2:02 PM
Thank you for this! It Really Helped Me and my Friend !
civicturbo says: Nov 3, 2010. 3:31 AM
Nice instructable! I saw this idea in 1988 at a science fair at the local county fair. They used wall power, 12v DC, a regulator, cap to clean the DC from ripple fullwave bridge rectifyer, a sand resistor on each wire from the power supply and ran it in parrallel with the phones in parrallel. Then used the second pair in common phone station wire and created a ring by wiring a doorbell button at each end and a buzzer at each end. worked really well. I went to radio shack and bought most of the parts for the power supply and tryed it. Worked good. Ive also seen this done with a 12v latern battery, everything in parrallel w/no sounder.
vlasktom says: Jul 8, 2007. 6:06 PM
will hooking a regular power cord up to it, and plugging it into a wall outlet create a ring?
RTourn (author) in reply to vlasktomJul 8, 2007. 8:03 PM
It may ring, but probably blow a capacitor, or catch fire. There is more current than you need. Spark Fun has a great little article and schematic on how to build a ring generator. they use it in a slightly different way but it has all the right gut. At some point I'll adapt it for this project.

Here is the website: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/present.php?p=High%20Voltage%20Ringer

joinaqd in reply to RTournJan 2, 2009. 9:39 AM
does it work without the ring generator?
tinkertoymania in reply to joinaqdOct 16, 2010. 8:46 AM
If you read it it says the ring generator is for the ringer. This does not have any effect on using the phones for the intercom, just the ring feature.
Thebighat99 says: Jul 29, 2010. 7:55 AM
How about two of the same phones with a transfer function. Then when you want to talk to other party. just hit transfer the other phone would ring then hang up then talk to each other. Would that work for ring generator?
playpep says: Jul 10, 2010. 7:53 PM
Would a 330 ohm resistor work?
ReeceLV says: Mar 21, 2010. 12:17 PM
Could you maybe use the wires for the second line for a buzzer or some leds ? I mean that you do it so that if you flick a switch a buzzer or some lights at the other end notify the person
alleyezonme says: Oct 13, 2007. 11:11 AM
hey, your instuctables was AAAWWWSSSOOOMMMEEE!!! Did You know i was your biggest fan? anyways, can you pleeeeeeese make an instructable about how to make the ringer!? oh, and also I need to now how much energy it takes to get the the ringer to ring, and how to make it ring. so please help me out here. your best fan, Alleyezonme
xsmurf in reply to alleyezonmeJan 8, 2008. 2:44 PM
Ringing is rather more difficult. You need to generate a ~45v AC wave length at 50 or 60Hz. But there are *plenty* of schematics and information online. Google is your friend.
tristantech in reply to xsmurfJan 10, 2010. 11:48 AM
It is actually 20 Hz.
lesklassen says: Feb 9, 2008. 8:43 AM
Can you do a 4 phone system?
tristantech in reply to lesklassenJan 10, 2010. 11:47 AM
no. That requires a different circuit.

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/telecom/telephone_intercom.html

Go here and scroll down to "theatrical intercom"
RTourn (author) in reply to lesklassenFeb 20, 2008. 12:44 AM
Although I haven't tried it I'm very sure all you need is a triple phone jack.

http://www.radioshack.com/sm-recoton-modular-triplex-phone-jack--pi-2459860.html
MunkyCh333z in reply to RTournDec 7, 2010. 7:46 PM
How would you configure an intercom with a 3-way phone splitter?
vicvaneyck says: Jan 28, 2008. 9:54 AM
So the resistor isn't really needed? What can go wrong when you don't use it? And when you use cordless phones, do they still need to be plugged into electricity?
tristantech in reply to vicvaneyckJan 10, 2010. 11:45 AM
The resistor may not be required for wall-powered cordless phones, but are mandatory for other phones. Use the resistor!
luck in reply to vicvaneyckJul 30, 2008. 6:26 PM
I can answer your qeustion about the cordless phone u would still need to plug them in for the wireless part to work
Gamernotnerd in reply to vicvaneyckMar 30, 2008. 5:53 PM
Yes they have to be plugged in
bombmaker2 says: Sep 30, 2008. 6:21 AM
does the watts on the resistor matter
tristantech in reply to bombmaker2Jan 10, 2010. 11:43 AM
yes. anything above a 1/4 watt should be fine. Too small and the resistor will fry.
RTourn (author) in reply to bombmaker2Sep 30, 2008. 10:55 AM
no
bombmaker2 in reply to RTournSep 30, 2008. 2:25 PM
thanks
Brandosmarto says: Mar 15, 2009. 9:45 AM
Hi, I have a question. What is the purpose of the resistor, can you make this project ring, and can it be plugged in using a transformer instead of a battery? Any of these questions answered would be helpful.
tristantech in reply to BrandosmartoJan 10, 2010. 11:42 AM
You can certainly use a DC wall adapter. Just follow the instructable but solder the wires to the power supply instead of the battery clip.

The purpose of the resistor is to limit the amount of current (20-30 mA) through the talking circuit. Too  much current will be too much for the coils inside the speakers and microphones.

No, this project cannot ring. If you want it to ring, you need a very high voltage (50-90 Volts AC) at about 20 Hz. That's enough to give you a dangerous zap and 20 Hz is very unusual.
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