Step 11: Assembly

Finally!  Time to start screwing everything together.  I must have been a little worried about glue setting while I was futzing with the camera because I didn't really take any pictures.  Things are pretty simple at this point, because each box has already been assembled and the holes are drilled.  If there were going to be any issues with fit they would have reared their head before this point.

Before pulling out the glue I get my 'mise en place'.  I get a bucket of water and a rag to take care of cleaning up glue squeeze out.  I make sure I've got my screws at hand, along with my driver and a fresh battery.  I get my biscuits, and a small brush to get the glue down into the slots.  Then I get to gluing.

I took each stack and set them on end with a clamp to hold them together, then ran a bead of glue down the center of each edge.  After that I'd pick up my brush and spread the glue out, making sure I got down into each biscuit slot.  Then each slot would get a biscuit.

Next I'd pull off the clamps and fan the pieces out like in the second photo and repeat the gluing and spreading process.  No second round of biscuits, of course.

Then it's just a case of reassembling the boxes, making sure that you follow your notation and get the correct corners lined up.  I made sure each piece was sitting flat on the table, then slip my shim clamps into place and throw the final clamp through the handholds.

All that's left to do at that point is to drive all the screws.  Be careful not to overtorque them.  Once the glue in the joint squeezes out you know it's snug.  Get the rag and clean up all the glue squeeze out.  If you don't take care of it now, you'll have to sand it off later. 

Don't be lazy and skip the glue step.  It's doing as much, if not more, of holding the box together than the screws.  Screwing into end grain like we're doing actually isn't a great joint.  The screws are more to keep the joint tightly clamped than anything, since trying to clamp non-parallel surfaces is a pain.  Don't skip the glue. 
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<p>nice boxes................</p><p>Rick</p>
<p>nice project.......i was wondering i have to build drum boxes, and i was wondering how to make the sides of the box look neat.....use a router? and if so ...im making them out of 3/4 wood fine finish plywood...any ideas for me? for music....</p><p>Thanks Rick</p>
<p>That is really cool! Would you mind responding with the dimensions and what I need to buy to make this <a href="http://topplyometricboxes.com" rel="nofollow">plyometric boxes</a>? Having to pay for each one of those boxes can cost up to $400... </p>
<p>I think I covered all of those items in the instructable. Did you read the entire thing? There's several pages.</p>
this is going on my to-do list. I think I will go for a vertical sided version with a bottom in it, so I can store my small weights, grips, gloves etc inside, the Plyo-box functionality will be a nice bonus. <br>just need to find a cheap source of ply or make a stupidly heavy one out of scaffolding planks.
<p>This project was nice and it cost me less than 25 dollars, thank you. I also found a lot of wonderful easy to do woodworking projects plans at <a href="http://bit.ly/iLoveWood" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/iLoveWood</a></p>
Just wanted to say thank you again, figured I would share some pictures of my final boxes.
Those look pretty sweet. Are they made of particle board?
Double check the materials section - plywood. The screws would rip out of particle board and MDF pretty quick.
I honestly thought the screws would rip out also, but after a year of regular and pretty heavy use, I haven't had a single issue with any of them
I've had such bad luck with partical boar furniture and MDF I wouldn't have risked it; Glad to hear your experience has been more positive!! :-) I could see exterior grade chip board working OK.
Yeah. I thought it was going to be a nightmare but it didn't turn out so bad at all. I honestly couldn't bring myself to shell out the money for 3/4&quot; ply so I settled for the particle board. I also added skid resistant rubber feet to the bottom of them as well. All in all the whole project cost me less than 20 dollars in materials which was a huge plus. I also like that the particle board offers a some extra texture on the top of the landing area.
I'd be curious as to how they hold up under use. I'd be a little leery of particle board in a structural use like this. I didn't think it was quite as strong as plywood would be.
I used roofing grade particle board. I figure, if they use it for roofing, it can't be all bad right? i have a huge camp coming up in a few days, I'll let you know how it holds up after that abuse.
This project was fantastic. I just made one myself and your instructions made the entire job much easier. I was thinking about scaling the project up to make an 18&quot; box for other work outs. The question I have for you is, was the footprint of the 18&quot; box you based this project off of the same as the 15&quot; box? In other words, would my bottom dimension for my panels still be 1'5.75&quot; or should i scale that measurement up?
Prior to me making the 15&quot;, our gym had 12&quot;, 18&quot;, 20&quot;, 24&quot; and 36&quot; boxes. Whoever made them designed them so that they'd all nest for easy stacking. Unfortunately there wasn't enough space for me to squeeze something between the 12&quot; and 18&quot;, so mine fits under the 18&quot; but not over the 12&quot;. So if you were going to build another I'd maintain the same side angle, which means each larger box will have a larger footprint. (If you want them to nest, make sure to leave a little space.)<br> <br> I would suggest, though, that if you're going to make another box, don't make one of these. The latest ones I made for the gym were a totally different design (swiped from Rogue Fitness) that I think gives you more bang for your buck.<br> <br> Basically what you do it make a closed-side box such that each dimension gives you a different box height. I made 3 copies of the ones they use at the Crossfit Games (20&quot;, 24&quot; and 30&quot;) and I also made two that were 18&quot;, 20&quot; and 24&quot;.<br> <br> If you're going through the trouble of making one with the angled sides, this isn't any more complex, and it'll give you 3 more heights to play with instead of 1. I was worried that they'd be a little tippy while using the highest heights, but they're really heavy and I use ours all the time with no problems. They're solid as a rock.<br> <br> I have no idea how Rogue makes theirs, but I tried to figure out how to brace it internally to deal with the stresses. You can see in my pics how I did it. Not sure if that's the best way, but I haven't seen any trace of them breaking down yet. Let me know if you have any further questions.<br> <br>
Very nice job. Any chance that you could post the plans for the Rouge-type box? This would be great for introducing my kids to CrossFit!
It might be a while before I can get around to making a full-fledged Instructable, but I think it's probably simple enough to just describe.&nbsp; Caveat: It's kinda late, and I don't have any drawings I'm going off of.&nbsp; I'm just re-thinking this up like I did the first time.&nbsp; So it's entirely possible I'll screw up a measurement.&nbsp; Work through the logic with me and double check the measurements.&nbsp; Or you might end up with a funny shaped box.<br> <br> So let's assume you're going to make a 20&quot; x 24&quot; x 30&quot; box.&nbsp;<br> <br> First you'll need a top and bottom.&nbsp; With mine I chose to make these the 20&quot; x 30&quot; pieces.&nbsp; (I think I did it this way because when I was trying to figure out how to cut everything out of a sheet this was the most economical.)<br> <br> If you're sure of your ability to cut things perfectly then you can make these to size.&nbsp; I cut mine maybe 3/16&quot; over so I had a little overhang.&nbsp; When everything was assembled, I took a flush cutting bit on the router and trimmed them, running the bearing on the sides of the box.&nbsp; Otherwise they probably wouldn't have mated up perfectly.<br> <br> So now you're going to cut two more sides.&nbsp; These will be full length (30&quot;) but have to be a 1.5&quot; shorter to account for being sandwiched between the top and bottom.&nbsp; So they're 22.5&quot; x 30&quot;.&nbsp;<br> <br> You could make a hollow box shape now by setting the top and bottom on the edge pieces you just cut.&nbsp; It'd be 24&quot; tall (22.5&quot; plus .75&quot; for each top and bottom) and 30&quot; long.<br> <br> Now you need some side pieces, plus one more for internal bracing.&nbsp; This FACE will be 20&quot; x 24&quot;, but that includes all four edges you need to account for.&nbsp; So your piece needs to be 18.5&quot; x 22.5&quot;.&nbsp;<br> <br> I also added two more pieces to complete the cross section you see in the last picture above.&nbsp; These are tougher to measure perfectly ahead of time.&nbsp; 3/4&quot; plywood isn't exactly 3/4&quot;, it's like 22/32&quot;.&nbsp; So the box will be a hair off exact dimension when finished.&nbsp; But if you try to precut those last two supports they'll be a little loose.&nbsp; So wait until you dry fit everything, then measure and cut those pieces.<br> <br> You might be able to get away without them.&nbsp; I would guess the Rogue boxes don't use them.&nbsp; (The next time I see one I'll peek through the handhold and see.)&nbsp; But I asked myself how the box would hold up if it were being jumped on.&nbsp;<br> <br> At the 24&quot; height, the platform you're jumping on is supported by all four sides as well as the crosspiece in the center.&nbsp; Bombproof.&nbsp; You could probably set a car on that.&nbsp; At the 20&quot; height, you're directly supported by the edges of the three matching internal pieces as well as whatever mechanical holding devices are keeping the top and bottom on.&nbsp; (Screws, nails, glue, etc.)&nbsp; Still pretty solid.&nbsp; The ends were what I was worried about.<br> <br> Without those last 2 internal pieces, the ends are being held in place entirely by mechanical fasteners.&nbsp; There are no edge-on pieces of plywood to help transfer the forces down to the ground.&nbsp; So I put those last 2 pieces in there to do just that.<br> <br> It might have been fine without, but I don't want something I built falling apart when someone is using it.&nbsp;<br> <br> I used pocket screws on my box on pretty much everything I could reach.&nbsp; If you do that, think ahead to how big your drill/driver is and how much space there will be once things start going together.&nbsp; I have a pretty small Bosch driver, and it was still too big for some of the tight spots.&nbsp; I hadn't thought it through and might have gotten around that if I could have put the entire internal cross section together first and then slid it into the sides.&nbsp; If you do this, you'll still end up with at least one piece, probably the top or the bottom, that you obviously won't be able to use pocket screws on.&nbsp; Unless you have a really small monkey that can operate the driver and crawl out through the handhold when he's done.&nbsp; I just nailed the last side on.&nbsp; And use plenty of glue.&nbsp; Glue + mechanical fasteners = good.<br> <br> When these are done I think they're close to if not over a full sheet of plywood, so they're pretty darn heavy.&nbsp; They're far more stable than I would have thought.
Excellent, thanks for the tips. I appreciate your response. Have a great day!<br><br>Mike
Thank you so much for getting back to me so promptly, I greatly appreciate it. This idea is definitely a much more simple, and practical solution for sure. Although I'd love to make this for personal use, I think making separate ones for now is my best option. I run a baseball/fitness camp and storage space is a huge issue. The ability to stack the pyramid shaped ones would probably be the best route for me right now. Thank you again so much for all your insight and for creating this really wonderful and informative instructable.
Nice project! Did you need to reenforce the inside corners to keep the sides from splaying apart?
Nope. The combination of glue, screws and biscuits are pretty much bombproof. Even without the biscuits I think the boxes would be plenty strong. The angle is so shallow that the majority of the force on the top is still mostly downwards. If the angle was more like 45 degrees then I'd worry about them ripping apart, but as it is I have no fears.
If you make more than one, perhaps adding small felt pieces to the vertical (angled) sides on the inside corners could help prevent damage when you stack them.
I was thinking you could use those felt pads with a sticky back made for the bottom of Chess pieces.
very nice. I'm going try to make one.. but my tools are sooo simple.. :(
It isn't a real fancy project. I made my Mother a box shaped footstool to put under her typerwriter one Christmas, and I used a tablesaw, a hole saw, a keyhole saw, a pocket hole joiner, a carpenter's square, a router, a box joint jig, sandpaper, and Bob's your Uncle!
Sweet! Give it a shot! The only thing I think is really critical is having a decent straight edge. If you've got that, and you can make your saw track a straight line, you should be ok. Good luck!
These also work great for stage and film applications. they just need to be painted black. At the auditorium where I work, we call these 'rock boxes.'
I just realized that my big rolling worktable was on a door, too. Yeah, doors are pretty awesome at being big and flat. I threw a piece of 3/4&quot; melamine on top of it as well, which is great because the wood glue doesn't stick. Unlike the Gorilla Glue. Sigh.
These are very nice. I got a kick out of your short worktable made from an old door... it looks a lot like mine! You know what they say, great minds...
Thanks. My workshop is my garage, and I make sure that I can still fit two cars in there, so everything has to fit into maybe the outer 3'-4' edge of the space. I tend to use a lot of table space, so I've got two folding tables I whip out a lot, and I've had that door lying around for years, and it often gets thrown onto sawhorses and turned into a table as well. You can never have too many clamps, or table space.

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