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Building a Copenhagen Interpreter

Building a Copenhagen Interpreter
Disclaimer 1: The following represent preliminary results. I have yet to perform a proper statistical analysis. I myself am convinced that what I write here is purely speculative until I set up proper data collection and perform the requisite mathematics. Please refrain from telling anyone that anything presented here is "fact" until I can defend such a statement.

Disclaimer 2: This project is not safe for a wide variety of reasons. If you insist on attempting it, please observe adequate safety procedures. I am not qualified to recommend anything specific, so please perform extensive research. Your safety is your responsibility.

What I am describing here are my attempts to demonstrate the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. This does not prove other interpretations as incorrect, it only proves that the Copenhagen Interpretation is useful for explaining the behavior of this device. For lack of a better name, I name this device a "Copenhagen Interpreter". Rather ironically given it's name, if successful the device will produce nothing but provably inutterable nonsense.

The Copenhagen Interpretation was developed by Bohr and Heisenberg. Simply put (by wikipedia):

[It] rejects questions like "where was the particle before I measured its position" as meaningless. The measurement process randomly picks out exactly one of the many possibilities allowed for by the state's wave function.

What I will try and accomplish here is to build a "small" device that measures a system which may exist with some probability as a number of discrete states. Further, the state the system will exist in at time "N" cannot be predicted even given perfect perfect knowledge of the system, infinite computing power and infinite time. In other words, if the source can sustain maximum possible entropy, this device will be a nice demonstration of the Copenhagen Interpretation at work.

Being mortal, I don't have perfect knowledge of the system, infinite computing power or infinite time. What I do have is statistics, which is as close to any of these distasteful things as I care to get.

For fellow stats geeks, I'll be using P=0.01 throughout this experiment.
 
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Step 1Entropy Source

To begin we need a source of entropy. Not just any source... flipping coins, rolling dice, or observing the behavior of certain celebrities is not sufficiently random. Coin flips, dice rolls, and celebrity drug rehab are what we might call "large systems", which the Copenhagen Interpretation suggests are best described by classical physics.

The source of entropy for our purposes must be "small".

A source where quantum tunneling occurs seemed to me like a good place to start, as it only occurs on a small scale. As a consequence of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, we cannot know for certain both where a particle is, and how fast it is moving (Note: this will be far from a complete treatment of the topic). As the measurement error decreases with respect to velocity, it increases with respect to position and vice versa. Therefore, if there exists a particle and a potential well, we cannot be certain the particle is within the well while being certain that it is traveling below the escape velocity for that well... it's all a matter of probability. (My reasoning may be incorrect here: please correct me if so)

Alpha decay is caused by quantum tunneling. If we have some macroscopic amount of an alpha-emitter, measuring alpha decay meets our criteria for a "small source", since it represents an individual atom decaying. Furthermore, knowledge about the particles within an atom useful in predicting alpha decay cannot be determined due to the nature of quantum tunneling vis. The Uncertainty Principle... So even given perfect knowledge of the system, and infinite time, you could never do better than pure chance when trying to determine the time of the next measured decay.

So, we will use a 0.9 microcurie sample of Americium-241. It's readily available, legal to own in my area, and not likely to kill me.


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Aug 27, 2008. 7:07 AMBaughb says:
Thanks for this. I'm a lapsed physicist, and I really enjoy things like this that don't require me to spend weeks relearning calculus. Looking forward to your statistical analysis.
Sep 4, 2009. 8:52 AMThe Ideanator says:
Wait, you don't really need calculus in the real world?? Cool! (maybe its just one of those GPA things)
Sep 4, 2009. 11:46 AMThe Ideanator says:
lol. I'm not that much of a math fan to go so far as to calculate the odds of me beating others(or the computer). I'm a fan of strategy games(command & conquer) & FPS games. I'm just glad that It's not imperative to doing engineering.
May 6, 2009. 11:29 PMbopeep says:
So perhaps a use for this would be to generate unpredictable random numbers to seed computer encryption algorithms?
Jun 19, 2008. 3:01 PMXray_Man says:
Geez... you mathematicians are in a world all of your own. When I read this instructable, not only did my wave function collapse, but my BRAIN collapsed along with it!
Jun 20, 2008. 6:21 AMXray_Man says:
I totally agree with your depiction of the world of Science being "cold, humble, and beautiful". I also have a life-long hunger to understand it, and my desire never stops. I am not a "scientist" but I do love science and technology. My math abilities are a little weak, but that doesn't impede my ability to seek out answers to questions about our physical world. I have a good grasp of many complex phenomenons and processes, and the more I learn, the more I seek. It's an addiction. *smile*
Jun 20, 2008. 10:32 AMXray_Man says:
Thanks for your kind words. I do not have a degree to hide behind, so that's a GOOD thing! Most of my education was acquired at the infamous School of Hard Knocks. I can not calculate the flight path of a rocket to the Moon, but I have a good understanding of the Physics of how it needs to get there. Without my intrinsic passion for Science, I would not be as smart as I am, and I would probably join the ranks of the average American by being obsessed with Football and Beer, neither of which I have any interest in.
May 19, 2008. 5:27 AMPasketti says:
I read this and my wave function collapsed. It'll take me weeks to get it all put back together again. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
May 16, 2008. 10:40 AMmrmath says:
I think I speak for most of us when I say this. "HUH?" :)
May 16, 2008. 4:35 PMmrmath says:
Here's where I can't buy it. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat">Schrödinger's cat</a>. Put a cat in a box with a quantum particle (which you can't be certain about) that is a trigger to a device that will kill the cat if it decays, and close them up in such a way as the cat is unable to affect the quantum particle.<br/><br/>Copenhagen interpretation says that since you don't know the state of the particle until you observe it, it exists in both states, decayed and not decayed. Since that particle is the trigger to the cat's death, the cat is both dead and alive at the same time. It exists in both states, until we observe it. The act of observing the cat, and therefore the particle, forces it/them into a single state, and the cat will only remember that state (if it's alive to remember it).<br/><br/>I don't buy it. The cat is either dead, or alive. Not both. Can't be that way. That Wiki link contains an exceprt from a letter from Einstein. He agrees. Reality gets in the way of the experimental situation.<br/>
May 16, 2008. 6:53 PMkillerjackalope says:
Well do you ever worry that your cat has died while you where out? It's confusing but it makes sense in terms of us, but whatabout things we observe wihtout understand/interpreting... It makes more sense in a mental way than physical...
May 16, 2008. 4:28 PMPatrik says:
"No cats were harmed in the making of this instructable". ;-)
May 16, 2008. 11:18 AMburzvingion says:
you might find this interesting:

Some specially designed silicon diode detectors have been made with the active volume (the depleted region) very close to the surface of the detector and have an extremely thin window so that alpha particles can enter the active volume and deposit all their energy there. The charge collected is a measure of the energy of the alpha particle, and these detectors are common for alpha particle spectroscopy. One of the most common types of such detectors is called a surface barrier detector. The detectors are usually used with multichannel analyzers. Some silicon detectors have thicker active volumes and are used for beta particle energy analysis. - www.hps.org

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