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Step 2: Trailer Conversion

I found a sturdy little cargo trailer with a heavy duty frame and tongue. The first step was to cut off the box with a reciprocating saw and grinder. I intended to save the wiring harness and lights but they proved to be outdated and fairly ratty.
See what you started.
That's great!!
<p>Wow! Nice.</p>
I like your design overall. I kinda wished I had used the quarter.... can't think what is called. What you built your walls with. <br>I used car siding tongue and groove. <br>Also like your colors. <br>Here's what I'm doing. I also have a blog.
Looks great. I enjoyed building my so much I think I'll have to make another sometime. What's your blog address?
can you tell me where I could find floor plans for a gypsy wagon? I'd like to make a 18-21' one with a loft on both ends...I've never seen a loft in any I've seen, but figure it can be done..you can reach me girlbabybear@yahoo.com. I've looked everywhere (Tiny Houses and Tumbleweed) for floor plans and would really like to find a step by step guide to help me build one. I'm a 63 y.o. retired lady with time on my hands that lives in Portland, Oregon...Wanting to park my future wagon in a park, not building it for travel...also, what is your blog address please? Thank you in advance for your help...
Check out this awesome Instructable. <br><br>We're planning a trip up to the Keweenaw Peninsula in late September. The fall leaves should be in full color. <br>A good friend of mine Gary and his wife Linda are traveling with us, with their bowtop. <br>After spending a few days in Keweenaw then we're going East though the U.P. and across the Mackinaw bridge and down the West coast of MI.<br>I say all this; inviting you to travel with us. <br><br><br><br><br>http://www.instructables.com/id/Building-a-Ledge-Vardo
where did you find your floor plans for your gypsy wagon? would enjoy hearing from you since I'm a 63 yr old retired lady who wants to build one myself. you can reach me girlbabybear@yahoo.com...thank you in advance.
Awesome stuff. The more the merrier! Hope we all cross paths down the road sometime too.
<p>Very nice! I made (am making) one of these in Washington State. </p>
<p>Very cool! Also from PNW (Tacoma).</p>
Where did you get your floor plans please? And where in Washington are you? I'm in Portland, Oregon. Thank you..find me at girlbabybear@yahoo.com
Looks awesome! I love the mollycroft.
<p>I love it! I'm just in the process of beginning a project myself using an old farm trailer. I don't plan tow the van anywhere but would like to think it is roadworthy if I need to. Are there any rules? </p><p>If anyone is interested, this is my project:</p><p>smallspacebigplans.com</p>
Hi, I have made a gypsy bow top and am now looking at trying my hand at a reading gypsy caravan on an old caravan chassis so it can be towed holiday. I'm sure I can do the main build but need some pointers on how to make a molly croft roof. Help anybody ?
<p>I am seriously thinking of converting one of my old flatbed trailers to a sheep wagon style camper. I'm a bit concerned about the size being too small though. It's 8 foot x 10 foot. How are you coping with the size on yours, and what is the actual size?</p><p>I'll try and post a pic of the trailer here</p>
<p>I built something similar many years ago, but more like a box on wheels. The biggest problem was created by the wheels being at the four corners meant that there was enough racking to tear the box apart. I replaced the dog trailer set up with a tandem axle set up but still got a lot of racking induced problems so I ended up replacing the two axles and using a single two ton rated axle out of the front of a Hino light truck and that worked for nearly ten years with only minor cracks appearing, now the box has been removed and I have been working on one of these gypsy thingos and apart from the chassis it is all timber.</p>
That doesn't sound safe at all. If it is coming apart there is something seriously wrong with the structure.
<p>G'day paleotool, torsional loads applied to any structure will impart some racking to the structure, you would be surprised just how much a car body will rack when have half the weight of the vehicle is applied to one corner but cars are designed to spread the load, such as no square corners. I have worked with metal all my life but I do like the versatility of timber but have had to learn to live with timbers shortcomings as well as its appeal. I was just trying to point out to DaviR5 that if he chose to use that platform with the axles at the ends then he could have a problem, there is a reason that all caravans have the axles in the middle. I love your build and thank you for the effort that you have gone to to record and document your build.</p>
<p>Yes, Loskop, I think we are on the same page. I was trying to point out that it shouldn't move enough to fall to pieces. Mine has been tipped to 45 degrees and has had some extremely rough off-roading and I frequently check for cracks, movement, etc. However, I am fearful when I see some of the poor construction and poor material choices on frightfully heavy caravans. Poor building is pushing some US states to attempt to regulate construction for safety's sake. I hate to think of something like this falling apart on the road and hurting someone.</p>
<p>You have your axle in the centre of your trailer so that means that you would have next to no torsional load induced to the platform as the ball mount hitch on your towing vehicle doesn't resist any twisting from the uneven road surface. All custom built vehicles here in NSW have to have the construction approved by a recognised consulting engineer and dog trailer ( axle/s ) near the centre of mass is the only method permitted, 5th wheel type can have the axle/s at the end but must have either a ball hitch or double swivel plate to allow rotational movement relative to the towing vehicle. I have never seen one actually fall apart, they just become very loose, leak, have internal built ins such as cupboards beds and door break or come loose and have electrical problems where the wiring goes around the wall corners and through the junction with the roof. </p>
What do you mean by &quot;racking&quot;
<p>It may be called something else in your neck of the woods but here racking refers to twisting. It would be like ifn you jacked up one corner of the chassis you would see a twist along the deck, and if you project that twist up to the top of your body then you will see a greatly magnified twist that will place a massive strain on the four corners where the roof meets the walls. On a semi trailer with only walls and a roof it can cause problems but with a build like this it will cause all your built ins in the interior to become braces which they weren't built for so your mobile fun palace will twist itself to bits in no time and leaks galore.</p>
<p>Yes, racking is when things that shouldn't move start moving. There should be NO racking in a structure like this. Even a tiny bit of movement will destroy it in no time.</p>
<p>Great Instructable!<br>I found this video about a guy who hand carves all the detail on his gypsy wagons - thought you might like it. </p><p>https://www.facebook.com/936abchobart/videos/10154135961269218/</p>
<p>I live in Wyoming and I am concerned with cold weather factor of this type of construction. Does it do well enough without extra layers? I am considering a wood interior with a corrugated exoskeleton with foam insulation sandwiched in between. </p>
I have no problem in cold although I do not live in ti all winter. The tiny, 50 sq feet of space is not a problem to keep warm. We have traveled all over the west and even the smallest fire keep it warm inside. We chose not to have foam or plastics in the construction. <br>I have a friend who did use modern foam insulation and it does hold a temperature longer and I think helps more to keep it cool in the sun.<br>Good luck.
<p>What was your estimated cost to build?</p>
<p>just a tad too small for me</p>
<p>Wow that is a spectacular project. You did a brilliant job! May I ask what it cost to get to the 20,000 mile mark since you added additional wood?</p>
Honestly, expenses were not tracked very closely after the initial build. Not including decorative arts, maybe another $500.
Any one got a gypsie wagon for sale (australia nsw)
Look up Gypsy Wagons Australia. There is someone building them in Queensland.
<p>This is my Vardo i built in 2007 I use it entirely at one event a year as part of Pennsic War at Coopers lake campground </p>
Nice!
<p>Weight, weight, weight... And on a single axle. Aluminum, composites, and a lite weight wood stove design (who's material list resembles a DIY forge) is the answer. Think sheet foam insulation, sandwiched between aluminum bands (glued and pined). Add aluminum roofing panels (sides and roof) and it'll be more than rigid enough. Some streamlining would also help quite a bit. The tongue area is wasted space, build out for less drag and more storage (generator, batteries, etc.)... </p>
<p>Mine a steel frame and marine grade plywood and i have towed my Vardo with my VW cabriolet and my 66 Microbus aerodynamics seem to play way more of a problem </p>
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<p>FUNtastic. I love the cute little things, like the mirror, holder for lantern, nooks and crannies used for storage.</p>
<p>Agreed!!!</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>....Wow..... What..... Amazing, truly fantastic job!</p>
<p>What about a bathroom ? A place to shower?</p>
<p>&quot;and enough height to stand up in.&quot;</p><p>And what might that be?</p>
<p>What a fantastic project! Thanks for sharing. Going to go beg my husband to make me one now :-)</p>
<p>Nice job! Yes these are nice and can be built on the cheap. Use your imagination and recycled materials. </p>
<p>I really love it. And all the details: the Uco-Candle, roof net, maps on the wall. You really have my respect!</p>
Awsome and amazing. Hope I can build it too
Looks like a gypsy wagon

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