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Building a Honey Extractor (using an 'antique' washing machine)

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HOMEBUILT HONEY EXTRACTOR (aka The Honey Machine!)
Commercial Honey Extractors are devices used to extract honey from honeybee 'frames'. This is achieved by 'uncapping' each frame/comb, and loading that frame/comb into the extractor, and 'spinning out' the honey. The extractor 'spins' (like a centrifuge) the honey out of the combs, slopping it on the inside liner of the extractor, where the honey runs down, collects in the bottom, and is bottled from a valve in the bottom of the extractor.

This INSTRUCTABLE will show you the fundamentals of constructing your own radial honey extractor. In this particular Instructable, I have created my honey extractor within the hull of an 'antique' washing machine. This Instructable will, however, give you enough information, to build your own honey extractor, using traditional materials, and you will be able to eliminate the 'washing machine hull' from your design (if you choose) and built a simple square 'box frame', and still follow this Instructable.

I included the 'antique washing machine' hull as the exterior of my extractor, in an effort to give an otherwise boring homemade extractor a little character. All of the fundamentals included in this Instructable should give you enough information to build your own extractor, simply replacing the antique washing machine hull with a simple box frame/superstructure made of the same 1" square tubing used throughout my extractor.




 
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Step 1: SAFETY NOTES and DISCLAIMERS (Please read...really)

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I'll be brief, so you'll actually read all of this:

1) READ THE PHOTO NOTES: I put a lot of information in the photo notes. If you don't understand something, double check the photo notes, and see if what you want to know is there. I tried to answer as many questions as I could using the photo notes...in my instructable, the photo notes are just as important as the text body in the steps.

2) FOOD SAFETY: Honey is a food product. As such, it should only come in contact with food grade materials. If you are a honey producer, you should ensure your extractor meets food grade requirements. In my build photos, I used non-food grade materials for all fit-ups/etc . After build, I refitted all parts that contact honey with food grade stainless bolts, or coated other parts in food grade paint, and dealt with other such food related issues (including food grade bearing grease). TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. Contaminants exist in everything, so be conscious of such matters when building your extractor.

3) SAFETY: Really...just wear safety glasses. Loss of an eye can happen quickly in a shop. Wear all safety gear...but SAFETY GLASSES ARE A MUST! Use common sense...don't weld indoors, or near combustibles (even dry leaves). Keep your work area clear and clean. Don't wear baggy/loose fitting clothes that are apt to get caught in spinning drills/etc...and for god's sake...weld with your face shield down, even for tack welding.

4) BUILD DECISIONS: You say "Tow-may-toe", I say "To-mah-toe" (yes, I know it's spelled Tomato): I made lots of liberal decisions in this build. You may elect to make design changes, or you probably know a better way of doing something than I do. I had a time deadline for this build, and tried to use materials I had on hand. Hence, in some cases (such as the center axle build) I did things the 'hard way'. Additionally, my election to use an old appliance frame for 'character' obviously is a unique decision to my build, and that decision substantially complicated my build. This Instructable is intended only as a guide for you to build your own extractor. You may elect to complete certain parts of the build differently. I encourage you to explore other options, and be liberal with my instructions.

Step 2: Tools You May Need

Tools I used....if you make different design decisions...you might use less/more/different.

Hobart 187 MIG welder, using 0.035" flux cored wire.

Craftsman 1/2" Hand Drill

Craftsman Socket/Ratchet Sets

Craftsman standard wrench sets

Sawzall

Large Bandsaw (metal cutting blade)

Small Craftsman bandsaw

Craftsman Belt/Rotary sander combo unit

Jet Lathe and associated tools (micrometer, etc)

Disc Grinder

Drill Press (and drill bits, of course)

C-Clamps

Hand files

Hammers, Hammers, Hammers!!!

A small square (any sort) for ensuring 90 degree angles where necessary.

Craftsman Skillsaw

Craftsman Air Compressor

Sears Sand Blaster

Vice

Step 3: MATERIALS LIST

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About 15' (fifteen foot) length of lightwall 1" square tubing (for construction of superstructure to support axle bearings, and drive motor).

(If you choose to build a box frame for the unit, you will additionally require upwards of 30' of this same 1" square tubing material).

About 1' 6" (one foot and six inches) of 1" (one inch) diameter round stock steel (for axle ends)

About 12' (twelve feet) of 3/16" steel rod (for honey frame "baskets")

About 4' (four feet) of 1/2" wide strap steel stock (for honey frame "baskets")

About 4' (four feet) 1/2" square tubing (for base of honey frame "baskets")

Two 3/4" bearings and associated bearing blocks (I used one four bolt unit, and one 2 bolt unit).

One plastic trash can (to use as liner to catch honey)

One drive motor (I chose a $19 ceiling fan from Lowe's)

3/4" x 10" wood for lid (if you choose to build one)

Step 4: Disassembling the old donor washer (to get to just the hull)

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Disassembling the old washer

I chose to use an old washing machine hull as part of the superstructure for my honey extractor, to give my extractor a little character. You can bypass this step, and simply build a box frame from 1" square tubing (used throughout this project). In retrospect, the extra time it took to refit the old washing machine hull is likely not considered worth it by the utilitarian types out there reading...but the end unit certainly is a unique looking honey extractor, and will certainly get you some attention among the beekeeping crowd.

In these photos, I simply gutted the washer, and stripped it down to it's bare hull.
You will need to do the same, and your process may slightly vary based on the type of washer you are able to lay your hands on.

Simply begin by removing the center agitator axle from the tub (as seen in photo). This will be held in by through hub bolts. Soak in WD-40 or PB (or other solvent/lubricant of your choice) and use socket to remove (or break off) each bolt. You won't be using any of these parts, so destroying/thrashing them is fine.

Then, flip the unit over (as seen in photos below), and remove the drive/agitator/pump assemblies. I was able to get some bolts loose using Craftsman sockets, and WD40....but the sawzall had to come out for the stubborn, rusted parts.

After you remove the lower supports/drive system, flip the washer back on it's legs, and simply lift out the tub.

However you get the tub/drive assembly out, be careful to not damage your hull. The less damage you do to it now, the less repair (even if it's cosmetic) you'll have to do to it later.

In my case, eventually, it all came out, leaving me with a nice light hull to work with, as seen in photos below.

Step 5: Overview of Build Components

If you are unfamiliar with commercial honey extractors, you may wish to visit the BeeSource links to USDA plans for honey extractors. This will give you an overview of the concept. You can see those plans here: http://www.beesource.com/plans/extractor_4.htm

Now that you have the basic idea, we can break down the fundamentals of building this honey extractor into the following four fundamental parts:

1) Creation of a superstructure which mounts to the washer hull, to support a lower bearing, and upper bearing, in which the center axle will mount, and rotate.

2) Construction of a center axle and connected radial honey frame baskets (in which the honey frame are held during the extraction process).

3) Selection and Installation of a 'Drive Motor' and construction of a 'Drive Coupler' which links the motor to the axle assembly.

4) Installation of a 'liner', which the honey will be used to 'catch' the honey as it come from the honeycomb, and which will also serve as a temporary collection area for extracted honey (until the honey runs out the drain in the liner and into an external container for filtering/bottling/etc).

Step 6: Building the Superstructure : Lower Support Structure

Building the SuperStructure: Building the Lower Support Structure

After measuring the washer hull, and determining it's dimensions, you can begin to build the superstructure within which the extractor would operate. The washing machine hull, being made of thin appliance sheeting, was quite flimsy once it's tube and internals were removed. Hence, you will need to build a superstructure to both support a vertical rotating axle about which the honey frames will rotate, but to also provide rigidity to the washer hull. If you are building a simple box frame, instead of using the washer hull, this will not be an issue for you...but what fun would that be?

In order to center you lower bearing block, you will need to build a lower support system from 1" light wall tubing. This lower support system will center the lower bearing block, and will support the weight of the axle.

First, measure the interior diameter of your hull. Check it both at the top, and that bottom, in case your hull is on a taper. If your hull is tapered, use your bottom diameter measurement for construction of your bottom bracket, and your top measurement for construction of your top bracket.

Once you have the diameter at the bottom of your hull measured, you will need to cut three joints of 1" square tubing to length, (leaving a little extra on each piece's length), and 'mock-up' the base structure within your frame (as seen in the photos). You will also need to account for the flat 'plates' you will be welding onto the ends of your cross members through which you will drill and place your mounting bolts (plates are 1/8" thick). Use C-Clamps (as seen in photos) to hold your mocked up lower supports in place.

Go ahead and cut out eight support backing plates, measuring 3" x 2" from your 1/8" thick, 3" wide flat steel stock. You can pick this up at any Home Depot/Lowes type store. After cutting out all eight, stack them in your drill press as shown, and drill two 3/8" holes in each plate, to allow for 1/4" mounting bolts. ALWAYS use a centerpunch to mark your drill points, so your drill bit doesn't 'walk' on your material. Additionally, once you drill your first hole, if you have to remove your 'stack' of plates to drill the second, use another drill bit to maintain alignment of your first holes, so your second holes are perfectly spaces (see photos below, and notes in photos).

After reviewing the mock-up of the lower support/bearing mount, some trimming may be required. It's best to always leave an 1/8" extra or so, and trim it off, rather than wasting a piece you cut too short. Always remember to account for the width of your saw's blade when cutting (see photos).

I would stick to my support design as shown, as opposed to doing a simple support with only two contact points. Using the three (well, four technically) point layout I have shown below will add rigidity to the flimsy hull, and will allow you to center your bearing, without drilling through your cross member (by allowing you to offset your cross member so it doesn't lay in the exact center axis of the hull, where your axle is going to sit).

After final fitting in mock-up, the steel tubing should be removed, and prepped for welding by removing all mill scale/rust using an angle grinder, wire brush, or other abrasive. Also, if appropriate, bevel edges on weld joints.

Use C-Clamps and a 90 degree square to ensure your tubing is set up correctly. Tack weld each piece, and save final welding for when entire superstructure has been test fitted (upper and lower brackets) in case you need to make adjustments. Use C-Clamp setup as shown in photos to weld on your end plates to the lower mounting cross members. ALWAYS tack weld first, then test fit. Only do final welds after you are sure you have everything setup perfect.

Now, you will need to cut a piece of 1/8" thick plate to span your lower bracket, to act as a 'pad' for your lower bearing block (see photos).

After you cut a piece (approximately 6" x 4") weld it into position in your lower bracket.

Determine position of lower bearing block on this plate, and mark mounting bolt holes.

Drill mounting bolt holes (1/2") for lower bearing block in the plate, along with a center hole of 1" to allow the axle to pass through. One method for cutting the 1" axle hole is shown in the photos. Simply cut smaller (3/8"?) holes around the circumference of the axle hole position, and knock out with a cold chisel (again, see photos and photo notes).

You will now need to drill matching mounting holes in your washer hull for the lower support bracket. Simply install the lower bracket and check with a level. Then use a hand drill (as shown) to drill through the hull, using your lower bracket mounts as alignment guides.

Fit-up your lower bracket, and mate external mounting bracket plates, and install loosely your bolts.

Your lower bracket is complete.

Step 7: Building the Superstructure : Upper Support Structure

Upper Support Structure

The upper support structure will contain the upper bearing block (the upper point where the axle is mounted), as well as the motor/drive assembly.

As illustrated and noted in the photo below, accurately measure the diameter of your hull at the uppermost point.

Cut two 6" lengths of 1" square tubing, to make the vertical components of the upper support.
Cut one length of 1" square tubing 2" longer than the diameter of your hull (in my case, about 26") for your upper support cross member..

Create four more flat plate mounting plates from 1/8" steel, and drill as before to receive bolts.

As illustrated, weld those flat plates to your two 6" vertical support element.

Now, using a square, and C-Clamps, layout and weld your two 6" vertical elements to your long cross member.

You should now have a simple 'C' shaped unit, comprised of your cross member, and your two vertical elements with mounting plates attached..

To accommodate the pass-through of the center axle shaft (and avoid doing an offset cross member on top, as on the bottom), you will not need to 'scab' both sides of your new cross member. To do this, simply cut two additional lengths of 1" square tubing, about 8" long. Weld the first (as illustrated in photos below) to one side of your cross member, at the center point. After making this weld, cut out 2" or so of the original cross member, to allow for the axle pass through. Now weld (as shown in photos below) your second 8" piece of tubing the OTHER side of your cross member.

Now, drill holes for your bearing block, and grind the holes out to allow for some 'slop', so you can slightly adjust the position of your upper bearing block.

Using a level, and C-Clamps (shown) affix the entire assembly you have jsut built to the upper hull in position, and drill 'through holes' using the mounting plates once again as guides. Install all four mounting bolts through the upper support bracket and the hull, again, using the backing plates you made, and tighten up snug for test fitting.

Step 8: Building the Superstructure : Making the Centershaft/Axle 1

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Building the Center Axle and Honeycomb Baskets

You are going to need a centershaft/axle, with 'baskets' to hold the honey frames. This axle will be aligned in the center of your extractor, DEAD center of your 'liner' (which catches the honey), and will mount into your bearing blocks/bearings at the top support, and bottom support connection points.

In my construction, I made this step WAY too complicated. I'll detail my process I carried out here anyway...but you can save this entire mess (of adapting square tubing to round bearing receivers), if you simply use round tubing for your entire axle. For instance, if you are using 3/4" Internal Diameter (ID) bearings , then simply choose a piece of heavy walled 3/4" Outer Diameter (OD) stainless tubing as your shaft material, and you won't have to make any special end pieces/etc to adapt to the bearings...your tubing will slip right into your axle bearings, with no lathe/other heavy equipment involved.

In my case, however, I used square tubing for the center portion of the axle...and hence, I had to fabricate axle ends which adapted the square axle to mount in the (obviously) round bearing receivers.

So....to do this (overly complicated, and unnecessary) task:

I selected the same 1" light wall tubing I've used in the other parts of construction. You will need to have an axle length AT LEAST long enough to accommodate the fact that your honeycomb hive frames are 19" in width. I calculated my center axle length as 19" plus about 4" on each end to receive the bearing axle adapters, making my center axle length 27" initially (although, I trimmed this down later during test fitting). Since you have already built and test fitted your upper and lower support structures, you can measure the distance between your bearing to get an idea of your axle lenght.

Cut yourself a center axle piece to length, using the preceding measurement you took.

To adapt the square tubing to the round bearings, you'll need to fabricate an adapter.

For this adapter, wyu can choose a piece of 'round stock steel' (a round bar of steel) of size 1". You can see in the photo that this is obviously the same size in diameter as our 1" square tubing.

Mount your 1" round stock up in the lathe, and turn it down until it's just small enough to slip INSIDE your 1" square tubing (this will vary, based on your 1" tubing wall thickness). Try to get a tight fit, to save having to do any alignments. A sloppy fit will lead to a wobbly axle. You want it to slip perfectly in the square tubing, with NO play at all.

You will want to have at least 1.5" in length of this shaft INSIDE the square tubing for strength.

Now, leaving yourself 1.5" of the freshly turned round stock, turn down the rest of the piece to the internal diameter (ID) size of your bearings. In my case, this was 3/4". Again, you want to shoot for a snug fit...as sloppy fit will lead to vibration of your axle.

You should now have a length of square tubing which comprises the center of the axle, and two end pieces of solid steel, which fit snuggly into the end of that square tubing, and also into the bearing sleeves (see photos for details).

Now that you have two finished axle ends, insert them into your square tubing piece of axle you have cut to length, and center punch a mark to cross drill the tube AND axle (see photo). This will allow you to pass a bolt through the axle end, and the square axle tubing, and still let you disassemble the axle unit, if necessary.

Step 9: Building the Superstructure : Making the Centershaft/Axle 2

Axle Construction: Making the honey frame 'baskets'

(Be sure to refer to photo notes in this section, particularly).

Now that you have a nice center axle shaft, you'll need to make 'baskets' that will hold your honeycomb frames when the axle assembly is spinning.

To do this, you will simply need to cross members to support the frames at the bottom, and simple wire supports to retain a backing plate that keep the frames from slipping out and hitting the liner sides.

One note: BE SURE TO COVER YOUR TURNED AXLE ENDS WHEN WELDING NEAR THEM. This will avoid weld spatter from ruining your smoothly finished axle ends. (Yes, I'm telling you this because I did it...lovely mess on my nicely turned axle ends).

First, you'll need to cut your axle to receive the lower basket supports arms. To do this, drill one 1/2" hold completely through your axle tube, about 1.75" from the bottom. Using a hand file or high speed rotary/dremel type tool, 'square up' the hole (turn it into a square hole) the size of your cross square tubing (1/2").

Rotate your axle 90 degrees, and do the same thing, but about 1.5" higher on the axle tube.

Now, cut two 14" pieces of 1/2" square tubing. Your length may vary, based on your liner size. You want to make these as wide as possible, while still ensuring they don't come close to hitting the sides of your liner.

Slide the 1/2" square tubing through the axle holes you just made, and center perfectly. Using a square (as shown) tack weld into position. You should now have an axle (as pictured) with two cross braces in the form of an 'x' at the bottom of the axle shaft.

Now, cut yourself four 20" long pieces of 3/4" wide, 1/8" thick flat steel. This will be the 'backing plate' for your honey frames.

Using tack welds, attached the end of each flat strap to the newly installed lower supports you just welded into your axle tube.

Now, you should cut yourself about 18" pieces of 1/8 heavy wire, and use a vice to bend them into the 'deep C' shape shown in the photos.

Weld this light wire to the backing plate, and the ends to the center axle as shown, to finalize creation of the 'honey baskets'.

Step 10: Test Fitting Upper bracket, lower bracket, and axle together.

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The important TEST FITUP!!!

Now that you have your lower bracket, upper bracket, and basic axle built and tack welded together...it's time for a full test fit-up.

Go ahead and install your lower bracket , the axle, and then the top bracket. Don't tight your bolts yet.

Rotate the axle assembly, and inspect for any misalignment/off-centered behavior. If you left appropriate 'adjustment' (aka 'slop') in your bearing bolt holes, you should be able to use that slight amount of variance to ensure your unit is aligned.



Step 11: Making a Liner

Prepping and Installing the Liner

Disclaimer (again): Ok...this is discussed in the original disclaimer...but...honey is a food product. As such, it should only come in contact with food grade materials. I only use my honey personally, and while using a new plastic trash can isn't ideal, I'll live with it for now. If you are producing honey it is your responsibility to determine the fitness for use of your materials. I would STRONGLY urge you to try to find a liner of food grade stainless steel. If you choose to use a plastic liner...consider yourself forewarned.

You will need to locate a plastic trash can that is small enough to fit inside your washer hull, but large enough to accommodate the overall diameter of your axle system (including width of your axle, the honey frames, and the outer edge of the 'baskets' used to hold the frames). I spent a few trips to a couple stores, before I found the trash can that fit my hull. You can always choose a trashcan that's too tall (I did), as long as it meets your requirements in terms of diameter. Then...you can simply trim off the top that is 'excess'. By the way...here's a tip...when the guy at Lowe's asks you why you're being so meticulous in your trash can selection...save yourself some time, and leave out that you're building a honey extractor.

Once you've found a suitable trash can (we'll call it the 'liner' from this point forward), simply place your liner inside your hull, and let it rest of your lower support bracket. Then, simply trace a line around the top of your liner that is even with the washer hull, to mark at what height you will trim your liner, for a flush fit.

Then, remove the liner, and use a pair of tin snips or similar (as pictured below) to trim off your excess liner. Now, reinstall temporarily as a test fit again on top of your lower bracket, to ensure your liner if flush with the top of your washer hull.

Next, you'll need to prep your liner to receive the mounting bolts, as you'll be installing your bearing block INSIDE your liner at final fit-up, and your bolts and axle will pass through your liner, into the lower support bracket.

Flip your liner upside down, and center up your lower bearing block (as shown). Use a marker to mark your four mounting bolt holes for your bearing block. Remove the bearing block, and drill four 1/2" holes on the four marks you made. These holes should PERFECTLY align with the four bolt holes in your bearing liner, as marked by the bearing block. Be very careful with this step....if you make a mistake, you could have to go buy a new liner (as you wouldn't want one with 'extra' holes in it, since it will be retaining some amount of honey.

Your liner is now ready. Set it aside, and keep it handy for the many more 'test fit-ups' that lay ahead.

Step 12: Setting up and Installing the Drive Motor

Drive Motor

SAFETY NOTE: If you are unfamiliar with electrical wiring, and associated safety GET A QUALIFED FRIEND TO ASSIST YOU WITH THIS STEP. ELECTRICITY KILLS (and burns down houses). This step assume you have skills handling 110V electricity, or you've found someone who does.

For my drive motor, I chose to use a $20 ceiling fan motor from Lowe's (shown below).

You can use any motor you might have laying about that you think might have adequate torque, and RPM's (the later of which you could achieve with underdrive or overdrive pulley systems). I wanted a direct drive (no pulleys) so the ceiling fan was my best bet. It may burn up eventually, but at $20...it's an affordable consumable part.

Remember, that nearly all ceiling fan motors are set up so the motor body rotates, and the shaft stays 'fixed' (hence how it hangs from the ceiling from the center shaft). So...that mean you need to modify the fan motor to have a coupler to affix to your axle.

Un-box your new fan, and put all peripheral parts aside (blades, light, etc).

Remove any light assembly that might be attached (see pix).

You will have to pull all of your switch wiring back through the hollow center shaft. I cut off the lighting fixture/switch, and drew all wiring in reverse up through the center shaft. The you will be using the opposite side of the fan motor to affix your coupler (the opposite side of where the fan blades were intended to be installed by the fan manufacturer).

CAREFULLY remove the fan's cover by removing the retaining screws (photo below).

Cut two lengths of 1" square tubing 3.5" long. These will be affixed to the fan housing, and make up part of your 'coupler' to the axle. Drill two mounting holes in these pieces. I was fortunate, and my fan motor housing had pre-existing holes which I matched on teh tubing, allowing me to easily center my pieces. After cutting and drilling the two pieces of tubing, use four 1/2" bolts to affix them to the fan housing.

Cut one length of 3/4" x 1/8" thick steel flat stock, wide enough to perfectly span the two pieces of tubing you just bolted to the fan housing. Center that piece of strap on the two pieces of tubing so it is perfectly aligned in the center of the fan housing 'circle', and tack weld to your two pieces of tubing already bolted to the fan housing.

Now, TACK weld an 11/16" deep-well socket to the dead center of your assembly you just built (see photos). This will act as the actual 'coupler', mating to a slightly smaller nut (around 9/16", or any size that fits loosely in your chosen socket size)

Next...using C-Clamps and a couple pieces of flat plate steel, perfectly center your bolt onto the top of your axle (as pictured below). Once placed and perfectly centered, tack weld in position. REMEMBER...once you weld this in place, you CANNOT pass the axle back through the upper bearing block (design flaw #299).

Next, you'll need to build a mount on the upper support for the motor. Simply cut two lengths of 1" square tubing, and weld (as shown in photo) vertically onto upper support bracket, at such a height, as to accommodate your fan's ceiling mounting bracket. I chose to weld (as shown) two plates on top of my towers, and drill them, so the motor could be unbolted and removed. You may choose to do that, or you may simply weld the fan mount to the towers.

Step 13: Sanding, Primer, and Paint (the cosmetic stuff)

Sanding, Primer, and Paint

Again...only use FOOD GRADE PAINT in areas where your honey will contact painted surfaces.

Use a sand blaster, wire wheel, or other abrasive to prep your hull's surface for paint.

I used a combination of sand blasting (using Black Beauty abrasive) and wire wheel with an angle grinder.

Simply remove all dirt/rust/etc using the mentioned methods. Then, wipe down the entire hull using at least a rag, or better, a rag with MEK, Mineral Spirits, or similar, to remove dirt and dust.

Tape off any areas of the hull you don't want painted (I taped off old knobs, and identification plates). Take your prepped hull to a well ventilated area, and paint the entire hull with primer. Allow the primer to dry. Apply additional coats of white high-gloss paint (or color of your choosing).

Allow to dry overnight.

Step 14: Making a Lid

Building a Lid

I elected to make an 'optional' lid...mainly to keep dust out of the liner when the unit is stored...and secondarily to add to the 'antique' effect of the machine.

Simply cut yourself out two or three 10" or 12" planks about 2" longer than the diameter of your hull, from 3/4" pine.

lay out your pieces to allow for a center axle gap, and using two 2" wide by 30" or so long pieces of the same pine, make yourself two cross braces.

Screw these braces to your wood planks, again, leaving a 1.5" or so gap for your center axle.

Affix a temporary board to the dead center of this arrangement, and place a nail or screw dead center of the entire assembly.

Using a string, and a pencil, create a compass, drawing a circle, using your nail at the center as your pivot point. Make your circle about 1/2" greater than the diameter of your washer hull.

Now, cut your circular piece out on the bandsaw.

You now have a simple lid for your extractor.

Step 15: The Completed Honey Extractor!

SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After a reasonable amount of work, you should be able to simply reassemble all of the parts you ahve test fitted numerous times, and have yourself a very unique honey extractor. (really...when is the last time you heard of a honey extractor inside an old washing machine...maybe Craftsman made one at one point...but I haven't seen one!).

See the video to see the unit in action, with two empty honey frames loaded.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2198672615668673960&hl=en

As long term followup, I anticipate possibly upgrading the drive system to an ice cream maker motor, or variable speed 110V motor. I would also like to relocate the drive motor to underneath the unit, so it's less visible.

Additionally, at some point if I can manage to come up with some stainless steel, I will likely replace my plastic liner with a stainless steel one.

Good luck building your extractor, and if you have questions, feel free to ask!
What a childhood trip this has been. I remember seeing one of these when I was but a little lad. Finally I may just be able to build one of this! It seems very elaborate and well-thought, props to that! This is probably out of topic but I would most certainly add designs to the exterior with a really vintage paint like red mahogany paint with antique silver designs around it. You know, just to be classy and all.
dcastor2 years ago
When I was growing up, my father had a homemade extractor made out of a garbage can. There was a bolt on the top that with the right driver bit enabled two frames at a time to be spun with an electric drill. A pipe was was welded into the bottom of the can to drain out the honey. It worked very well...and, I *hope* the garbage can was painted with food grade paint, but not sure.
Here's a cheap and easy beehive to go with your extractor:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-your-own-Honey-Cow-Top-Bar-Bee-Hive/
mtngrown3 years ago
I'm working on a non-electric version of one of these using a 55 gallon barrel and some bicycle parts for the spinner. Hope to post the instructable sometime soon. Thanks for the post, it's great!!
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  mtngrown3 years ago
MtnGrown: Thanks for the comment. I've see a couple units constructed using the 55 gallon drum and bike spokes/rims as the basis of frame holders. We just finished using my unit for spring honey harvest on a few hives, and it's worked well, although the ceiling fan motor was grossly underpowered. It worked, but took nearly 20 mintues to spin down to shallow frames....too long. We've switched it to a variable speed 1/2" drill motor, which works much better. The only input I'd have for you is: 1) If you set your frames like i did mine (radially), the wind resistance is surprisingly high. If you are doing a hand crank, or pedal powered...it might be worth considering orienting the frames in a non-radial pattern where only one side is extracted at a time....and then you flip them over. While that seems like a nuisance, it is surprising how much wind resistance comes from a honey frame...and that might be pertinent to your implementation, given you won't use an electric motor. 2) "Pickle Barrels"....Food grade barrels seem shady at best, when you buy them. People here sell them, but I never had any idea how to tell if they are indeed food grade, or if they really came from a factory making something toxic, and the guys selling them are fibbing. That said...I've heard several people say that pickling companies sell their barrels, which are obviously food grade...so if you know someone working in any food supply industry...that might be a good place to get a barrel you are sure has not been exposed to anything that might pollute your honey. Thanks again for the view and input...much appreciated...I'm just glad someone out there has found my post useful! We're in the great state of WV...so keep the 'Mountain Grown" theme going!
Beautiful state, WV! I have kin up there. I'm in the northern Appalachians of North Carolina myself, so we're practically neighbors in mountain terms, lol. I hadn't considered the wind resistance factor, glad you brought it up. I have some recovered motors here from things like old refrigerators, washing machines and waterpumps. Think I'll use one of them on the drive gear instead of a hand crank and I'll just keep the hand crank option open for when I have to extract off-grid. Seems like pedal power would be great but difficult to set up unless you used a worm drive of some sort. Gotta love rural ingenuity...lol.
 Very nice and detailed, looks like a professional job! But one question, since the wire basket you made looks like un-protected metal, is there any rust or metal taste that gets in the honey? I'm building an extractor at the moment, and trying to find out what would be best as a basket, but we don't have a welder! 
Thanks for the feedback.

I actually bought a food grade paint (which is clear) and coated the internal components (not the liner, but everything else) with it.  It took some digging locally, but I found paint that met the 'food grade' requirement.

Many apiarist (bee keeper) websites sell a similar paint on their sites, so a quick google search should yield those places as well.

You can buy "brush on" or "spray on" food grade paint, but the 'spray on" isn't as easy as it sounds, so I'd say go with the "brush on".  I don't sell my honey commercially, so it's not as big of a concern, but if you are going to sell commercially, you might check with your local Agricultural Extension Agent (a free service in your state) and talk to them about other options.

Thanks again...and if you want to talk about my 'lessons learned' and hear what I would do differently, you can message me with your email address, and I'll be happy to talk about it.

Thanks again.

 Ah yes food grade paint, I was thinking about that as an option as well. Thanks for the reply!
slimguy3795 years ago
i am a bee keeper and have to exract at a friends house due to me not having an extracter so thanks for the idea
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  slimguy3795 years ago
Happy to help out anyone thinking about bee keeping! Other alternatives to my build might be sourcing a stainless steel 'liner' from a seller of used restaurant equipment/supplies (maybe a large stainless 'pot' or 'kettle'?) Of course...if your friend let you use their extractor for free...you might ask him/her if it would just be easier to "store their extractor at YOUR house"!!!! ;-) Good luck with you hives, and I hope you have a good honey-flow this year!
well honey isn't a aggressive market so i work hand in hand with the guy who has the extractor and he live just down the road... but i might just build it for a weekend project, again thanks. also have you been hit with ccd this year? just curious
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  slimguy3795 years ago
Fortunately, I had no CCD events. My primary problem at the current time is ensuring honey stores are enough in the hives for winter, here in WV. I am currently feeding my bees syrup mix, in an attempt to ensure they make it until the Spring, without depleting their honey supplies in the hives.
exactly whats going on here... in NY, what chemicals do you mix with your syrup? i assume sugar, water and,.... the chemical. this is my fisrt year doing it as a 17 yr old, but my father has done it for over 30yrs, so hes obviously abig help.
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  slimguy3795 years ago
I'm actually in WV. I don't mix any chemicals in my syrup...I just bring about a gallon of water to just below boiling, add 2:1 ratio of sugar, and stir until the sugar totally dissolves. Then I feed it using a one gallon ziploc bag.
You can how in the following link:
http://www.beesource.com/eob/baggie.htm

Good luck with your bees!
we add a chemical to the mixture for the mites...
this group
http://beehuman.blogspot.com/2009/03/kirkobeeo-rescues-tree-hive.html
thinks no chemicals, use "paint stick" as the middle frame and bees will be stronger, less mites, etc. We have bees now for about 3 years, no CCD, and great honey.
checked the link, but we have top feeders so we dont have to open the hives up ever time. but thanks for the great link
bwpatton14 years ago
Couldnt you just run the combs through a wringer that it came with?? Great Idea Wonderful Ible'
flyerd15 years ago
This was great. You mentioned that you might do an instructable about how to build a hive and start with bees. I'd like to say that I'd love to see that. Can you build a "complete" hive from scratch? That Q comes from my limited exposure to bee keeping when I was shown the parts that hang down into the hive. They appeared to be manufactured and were basically sheets of some material (plastic or wax?) pressed into a hive shaped pattern. If you make a hive from scratch do you need something like that? Thanks again
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  flyerd15 years ago
Hello Flyerd1: yep...you can certainly build your hives from scratch....and that's what I did...except for the frames (which hang in the boxes). it's just cheaper to buy the frame kits (unassembled) than undertake cutting them yourself. you can certainly make your hive boxes, lids, bases, etc yourself, adn save mucho money. just have a look at the links i've posted in other comments, and you'll find free plans online, with easy to follow instructions. as for 'wax foundation' (the sheets of material in the frames)...you can use it if you choose, or you may choose not to...you can purchase such wax sheeting from common bee suppliers (online) in varying sizes/shapes. after your bees are established, wax sheets are less critical, and you'll use less of them (in most cases). i would encourage anyone considering beekeeping to reach out to the free resources online, and the local agricultural office for your area (state organizations)...it's not as complex as it might seen...and once you get started, you'll enjoy it! good luck!
RedRyder5 years ago
I don't know if anyone has noticed this or not... if so, I apologize in advance... but it appears that your combs go in perpendicular to the walls of the tub. Could you modify this so that they go in parallel? I went to a beekeeping workshop this week, and they had VERY EXPENSIVE extractor there that was hand operated. The beekerper cuts off the caps from the comb with a hot knife, loads the frame in the extractor with the cut side facing out, and spins it by hand a few dozen times to extract the honey. When one side is empty, remove the frame, cut the caps on the other side, insert it again, and spin. This kept the comb from being damaged, too. There was a metal grid around the frame it rested against while spinning. Watching it in use got me thinking about making one... and in looking, I found yours! This is an awesome 'ible! The only thing I'd modify is the orientation of the holders for the frames. Yours holds 2x as may frames at a time, by the way... another improvement. Well done! And I think my mother-in-law has that exact same "antique" washing machine in her barn... in green. I'm gonna go requisition it tomorrow... :-)
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  RedRyder5 years ago
Yep...that's right...my frames are perpendicular. This is called a 'radial' setup. Combs are actually built by the bees with a slight vertical 'slant' to the cells, meaning one end of the cell is tipped 'up' in a sense. So...if you orient the combs correctly, the honey will flow out easier. Both radial, and non-radial extractors work. In a radial extractor, you don't have to stop once you've done one side, and flip over the frame and do it again. In a radial, you just load them one time (saving time). Both are legit methods...I just prefer the radial units. If you browse a bit online, you'll see commercially produced radial extractors that can hold EIGHT frames (that's a lot of rotating mass, and has to have a motor large enough to accommodate that much mass)....but they are out there, if you can afford them. The only problem with using the washing machine is it limits the diameter, and hence, using a radial design, you are limited to shallow supers (in my case). If your machine is larger in diameter, or you develop a better liner, you may be able to spin Illinois supers radially...but perhaps your idea to switch to a non-radial configuration could compensate and allow for the narrow radius. In any event, good luck, and if you have questions, feel free to message me. www.northerntool.com is a good place for cheap bearings and such... Glad to meet another beekeeper, and really happy you found the 'ible' useful!!! ;-) again...if you have questions, do message me!
mmh5 years ago
Congratulations! I can almost taste that honey. Enjoy your new tools!
frollard5 years ago
Great project, and great writeup! Only problem is, how many people have access to honeycomb racks conveniently coated with honey? :) I'd love one of these, if I had a honey-farm. Good stuff
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  frollard5 years ago
FROLLARD:
Thanks for the compliments....so....the other part of my Instructable to get more people interested in beekeeping...so they would have honeycomb frames to spin in their extractors!

I've only been doing it for a year or so now, and I never thought I'd be a beekeeper...but it's great fun...environmentally helpful...educational...and can be done pretty much anywhere...not just on some rural farm!

So....perhaps my next Instructable should be how to build your own hives, and get started with bees?

Do check out these sites, and consider keeping a hive this summer...you'll need to get started soon....it's almost spring!

http://www.beemaster.com/

http://www.beesource.com/

http://www.gobeekeeping.com/

Thanks again!!!
those are some pretty neat resources. Still not sure the landlord would like a bee hive on my balcony :)
KEUrban5 years ago
Congratulations on becoming a finalist in the Craftsman Workshop of the Future contest! Good luck!
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  KEUrban5 years ago
Thanks! I'm excited about making 'round 3'. My girlfriend dug your wine bottle lights...I suspect I'll end up making that soon... They looked great, and are a great recycle...I look forward to seeing what else you come up with. Thanks again.
wfp2a5 years ago
Beautiful work! I am a WV beekeeper also so you make me doubly proud! I have pics of a homemade extractor (no where near as fancy as yours, but...) on my site if you want to have a look
Homemade extractor

Anyhow, you get my vote for the contest!
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  wfp2a5 years ago
Hey...thanks for the compliment! Your extractor is great as well...I like the screen basket you built. Very effective. You should post your unit as an INSTRUCTABLE as well...I think the more people see how easily you can build an extractor...people might further their bee experiences. Thanks again!
SinAmos5 years ago
Simple in design, but cool.
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  SinAmos5 years ago
Thanks so much. Yes...I did a very simple design. This things will get used about three times a year or so...and I needed to be able to pull it out, use it, and put it away, with little effort, and not having to 'fix' it every time, or anything. Thanks for having a look, and the positive feedback.
JulieMae5 years ago
When I was a girl, we used an old milk separator. It worked very well. I like your plan, it is electric. It will go much faster.
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  JulieMae5 years ago
Thanks for the comments. My electric unit is pretty quick, but I was careful to not have it go TOO fast, so it doesn't collapse my honeycomb. Using wire in your combs can help...but too much speed would probably result in collapsed comb, that would come out of the frames. I'm sure your milk separator worked well...and was a pretty classic way to do it. Thanks again!
mmh5 years ago
Great instructable. I took a beekeeping course from George Imari (invented the Imari shim). How are the bee hives doing these days? I've noticed a great reduction in domestic bees and fortunately we have a variety of wild bees in our area. Now, how about some of that delicious honey!?~
kcli5 years ago
Even if I weren't a beekeeper, you'd still get my vote! What a challenging entry and I hope you win!
schristy05 kcli5 years ago
Hey...I hope I win as well! Thanks for reading...and if you aren't keeping bees...you might think about it...an fun, interesting hobby, that can be done pretty much anywhere. Thanks again!
doozer_not_fraggle (author)  schristy055 years ago
BTW...I'm the owner of this I-BLE...previous post from SCHRISTY05 was actually from me...it just posted under my girlfriend's account...she was on my laptop voting for me, and it either didn't log out, or cached her account. ...but yes...you should definitely consider beekeeping...it's surprisingly interesting!
I totally agree...I've been a backyard apiarist for about 25 years and know for a fact that suburbia will never have too many bee ambassadors! Thanks for promoting this unique hobby :o)
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