Built in, self venting Cat Box by Denver_80211
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This is a self venting cat box I built. It does have a bathroom fan inline but, that turned out to be overkill. I tapped into the vent stack for the tub while I was remodeling the bathroom. Also did all the tile and everything else, really.
The box emits no smell, the hallway down one side traps loose liter before the cats jump out and keeps the dog from getting treats. It was a blast to make.

Step 1:

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Looking in from the back of the shelves during construction.  There is a small closet that goes to the adjoining bedroom.  I sacrificed part of the closet for shelves in the bathroom and the cat box.

Here you can see the pipes leading from a small bathroom fan to A dedicated vent pipe.  That pipe goes up and through the roof.  I added power to charge a cordless razor or curlers (do people use those any more?)  The blue electrical box behind that pipe houses the timer switch. 

NOTE: THIS IMAGE INCLUDES A CONNECTION  TO THE BATH TUB VENT STACK.  DON'T DO THAT!  SEE CHANGES I MADE LATER AT THE END OF THIS SET!


Step 3:

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The box is coated with shellack.  Shellack resists soaking in any odor and it's waterproof.  On the floor of the box I poured about 1/8" of epoxy in case of spills.  The finished box can hold water. 2 inches deep (just had to try for fun)

Step 6:



The "passageway" down the left there serves two purposes.  That's a plastic door mat cut to fit in the channel. When the cats exit, they don't bring any liter back into the house -it actually works like a door mat should!  It also prevents my dogs from stealing "treats" -they can't get their big Labrador heads in there.

Step 7:

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When the drawer is shut, it works like a charm.  I can open it to scoop into the toilet or replace the litter.  I put the plastic liter box in a 3mm plastic contractor garbage bag and them fill the box over the bag.  Just pick up the sides of the bag and turn it inside out.  No mess!

Hope you enjoy

Fred

Step 8:

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After seeing I've missed some level of detail (pardon, this is my first submission and I understand that I've taken much for granted), here is some detail on the venting architecture.  The important item to see is the P trap at the bottom of the image in the stack that the box is connected to.  This prevents dangerous gasses from getting into the home.  Water in the traps seal the stack from allowing gasses into the home.  The best way to avoid any possible issue is to have a dedicated vent stack.

NOTE: I RETURNED TO THE PROJECT AND ADDED A DEDICATED STACK.   SEE NEXT STEPS!


Step 9:

Contrast on this image is tuned up to help see detail.  After some consideration I re-opened the wall in the closet, disconnected from the vent stack and redirected the pipe for a dedicated vent stack of it's own.  Typically a bathroom fan uses a four inch pipe but the volume of air being moved is small and the fan is very small so it won't be stressed.  Larger fans require larger vents or you'll stress the fan.  (Imagine a vacuum when you suck up a sock)

Step 10:

This is an image of the finished dedicated stack.  I would have rather kept it in the wall but, that would have been a very invasive project! I sanded the outside of the ABS pipe to rough up the surface for best paint adherence.  The box at the bottom contains the fan.  Since the box comes so far into the closet, I just divided up the remaining space at the bottom with shoe shelves. 
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reddog92396 says: Dec 20, 2012. 3:49 AM
Rock the cat box
account3r2 says: Oct 14, 2010. 11:00 AM
"I can open it to scoop into the toilet or replace the litter." Dont do that. it can kill seals.
jimr77777 says: Jan 28, 2012. 7:43 AM
I thought that the cat litter (combined with the smelly stuff) would clog up sewer pipes, and that was why not to flush it... do any plumbers know the answer to this?

BTW - great inst-able!
veeguy says: Feb 11, 2011. 12:32 PM
If you are on a city or town sewer system, you don't need to worry about "killing seals". The biological process used to clean the sewerage (activated sludge or oxidation ditch) will kill off the toxins. If that doesn't do it, the chlorine or ozone disinfectant will do the trick. If you think about it, hospitals flush hepititus or other contageous tainted fluids down the toilets all the time.
Denver_80211 (author) says: Oct 16, 2010. 9:30 AM
I actually don't do this very often. While I do care for all animals I hope that Denver's septic system does a good job cleaning waste before it could impact any wildlife (or non-wild life!). I would add that flushing cat waste is a BAD idea if you use clumping cat litter. We're using recycled newspaper pellets which dry things out and don't adhere to waste.
Spokehedz says: Oct 14, 2010. 12:15 PM
It depends on where the water is sent to first... If your community dumps your sewage into the ocean, then yeah it would be bad. But if they are like most normal communities then they are sending it to a water treatment plant where all toxins are removed before the water is put back into the environment.
thebriguy says: Oct 14, 2010. 5:48 PM
I think your community has problems if they are dumping raw waste into the waterways. Scooping cat poop into the toilet is pretty efficient. If you really oppose, scoop it into a bag and put in the garbage. Or, better yet get a diaper disposal (ie:Diaper Genie). Or you could put it in the garden or compost.
Todd2255 says: May 23, 2011. 12:56 AM
you should never but cat dog or any type of waste in your garden or compost
thebriguy says: May 24, 2011. 8:15 AM
But it works so good. Fertilizes the trees and flowers, and keeps the deer away! Doesn't seem to be a problem.
Todd2255 says: May 24, 2011. 4:08 PM
I should have givin a better comment- trees,flowers and the such is fine ones it is composted - but to use in the garden for human food not good . look up on the net under dog waste for fertilizer, you can get a better answer then i can give you. Have a great day.
thebriguy says: May 24, 2011. 5:13 PM
Agreed! Never for a food garden. Thanks for clarifying.
Spokehedz says: Oct 27, 2010. 4:12 PM
I said ocean, and yes there are some communities that do that around the world. Instructables is not a USA-only website, please be a little more global in your thinking.

The proper way to dispose of poo is to bury it in the yard. That's where it wants to go, and that's where I put it. I just dig a hole a couple of feet deep with a post digger, and drop the poo in it. Takes a second, and the garden never has any rabbit problems because they stay away from where there is a lot of cats.
xdomhnallx says: Dec 30, 2012. 7:45 AM
I think it would be a safe bet that any place that dumps raw sewage into the ocean, probably doesn't put cat waste up high on their list of things to worry about. Assuming that there is a water treatment plant downstream from your toilet isn't an American viewpoint. It's a modern world viewpoint. Sure there are still plenty of areas on this planet that are not so blessed with modern conveniences, but again, they are not likely to be on this website looking for green solutions to cat poo. It's a bit condescending to ask someone to be more global in their thinking because they didn't address the specific needs of every community on earth.
Aswa says: Oct 14, 2010. 8:14 PM
Composting yes, and I agree, I would also put it into the toilet if you use environmentally friendly litter.

But Diaper Genies are incredibly and unnecessarily wasteful things IMHO. There already is enough plastic in conventional diapers, and those machines add an extra layer of scented(!) plastic to the trash.

If one is worried about the well-being of ocean creatures, the first thing to do would be minimizing the use of disposable plastic products.

Just my few cents.
thebriguy says: Oct 27, 2010. 3:05 PM
Actually the Diaper Genies are not the problem - it's the diapers that go in them. Therefore, it wouldn't be a bad use for cat poops (unless you train your cat to wear diapers).
Aswa says: Oct 27, 2010. 6:07 PM
Well yeah I fully agree the diapers are the BIGGER problem, but I don’t think it’s a particularly good solution to wrap them in yet more plastic.

Basically what I meant to say is, when one is concerned with the health of seals and marine life, then kitty-litter going into the toilet is definitely one of the smaller problems they have to worry about, while disposable plastics are most definitely among the bigger ones – as a lot of plastic ends up in the oceans, even if it has been put into a garbage bin at one point.
So I wanted to underline and agree with your initial statement: "I think your community has problems if they are dumping raw waste into the waterways."
I don’t know what kind of kitty litter you would have to use for this form of disposal to be problematic.

It is actually not a huge issue getting rid of cat poo without any use of plastic really, especially if you put it into the toilet or compost it. So that is why I think a diaper genie for that purpose is wasteful and unnecessary.
thebriguy says: Jan 10, 2011. 6:15 PM
I'd love to sail out into the ocean and make a giant plastic island from all that floating recycleable. From the pictures I've seen it's an absolutely lovely climate there (and worlds better than Wisconsin this time of year)!
vgreen89 says: Jan 9, 2011. 2:20 PM
Actually, one reason California Sea Otters are so endangered is because of a disease caused toxoplasmosis. Cats are the main carriers of this disease (cats have few or no symptoms, and up to 50% of cats--and people have it), and people spread it to the otters by flushing the cat poo down the toilet. More wastewater than you'd think goes into our surface waters which is why it is no longer safe to drink any surface waters in the continental U.S. Moral of the story-- Don't flush your cat crap down the toilet!!!
winterwindarts says: Nov 26, 2011. 8:35 PM
The main source of toxoplasmosis is NOT cats but contamination from raw or improperly handled meat or seafood...or gardening. Please check your facts to make sure that they are up to date-VERY few cases can truthfully be linked to them anymore (less than a dozen in the many thousands of cases every year). House-only cats that are not fed raw meat and do not eat mice or other rodent pests are not carriers as the disease can't last more than a couple of months in their bodies.

When I first got my cats my husband (then fiancee) started in on hinting that I would have to get rid of my cats when I get pregnant so I started looking up RECENT data on it to show him. Almost no one practices pristine enough sanitation in the kitchen to keep toxoplasmosis out of their finished food much less out of their drains from just washing up and thus causing it to enter the watershed (overuse of antibacterials/microbials causing resistance is another rant). As long as there are humans and prepackaged raw meat, toxoplasmosis will be pretty widespread. Just washing hands is enough to get it to enter the watershed. There are no easy solutions.

Just the risk of damage to plumbing is reason enough not to flush clumping litter and I'd be pretty leery of flushing other types of litter.

Pregnancy/human health specific: many people are already immune to toxoplasmosis due to prior exposure-eating dirt as kids being the main reason. Grilling meat and not being careful to use a fresh plate for the cooked meat is another very common source. Prior exposure/immunity can also be tested for in both humans and cats and apparently there are vaccines for both species.
theawesomeninja says: Jul 25, 2011. 8:07 PM
I'm pretty sure all our sewage is treated in a manner that does not harm the seals. They first take out the solids, process it and dry it and sterilize it and use it as fertilizer or bury it. Liquids are also cleansed and sterilized and is labeled as "reclaimed water" used for watering parks and other non-food related plants.
thebriguy says: Jan 10, 2011. 6:11 PM
My poop goes down, so so does my cat's poop. If my cat has toxoplasmosis, I probably do to - so it's really indifferent who's toxoplasmosis does down the shitter. Also, if 50% of people have toxoplasmosis then we're a little beyond anything we can do about it. I'm in Wisconsin, with my own septic out in the country, so it's very unlikely to affect the California Sea Otter. Regulations are rarely one size fits all - I shouldn't be held to the same regulations that a city has...
Spokehedz says: Jan 10, 2011. 4:50 PM
Yes, toxoplasmosis is an issue with the otters... But, he is in Denver which is pretty dang far away from the ocean. And the main issue is that the water treatment plants are NOT doing their job if this stuff is getting out into the waterways... The main issue is more than likely people dumping kitty litter into the trash, which gets dumped into big piles and then the water table gets polluted that way.

And if sewage is getting into your surface water, your water treatment plants in your area are SERIOUSLY out of code, and the EPA should be called out. Yes, 'wastewater' goes out into streams and things, but it is not sewage--which is what you are inferring.
LardaLot says: Jul 25, 2011. 11:00 AM
very glad to see this project. just to say, my cats are sort of "cave-cats" and they would love this. will build something like this soon :)
riff raff says: Oct 14, 2010. 7:39 AM
How long did it take your cats to get over their natural apprehension of the new litter box and start using it?
Denver_80211 (author) says: Oct 16, 2010. 9:35 AM
No delay at all. They were in there immediately. I let them use it outside the box and then put it inside so the scent was the leading indicator.

Not certain about natural apprehension to small spaces. If I leave a box or paper bag out, they are in it paying immediately. I've know many cats to share the same love of confined spaces. Clearly my observations don't mean all cats are like that. Could be a breed specific behavior?
chuckr44 says: Jul 14, 2011. 10:09 AM
Most cats I have met love confined spaces: shoe boxes, bags, under lazy boy chairs, anything.
elguappo says: Jul 9, 2011. 12:38 PM
Fantastic idea.
I hate having cat boxes in a room and the smell wafting around no matter what you do.
tinker234 says: Jun 7, 2011. 8:55 PM
wow if only we had a self cleaning thoughts anyone
Tangoforce says: Feb 3, 2011. 3:36 PM
Brilliant idea. The tunnel is excellent as it appeals to a cats natural curiosity and we all know they need a bit of help using the toilet!

Very well done, its excellent!
zuruiboy says: Oct 15, 2010. 8:25 PM
Great post - very well done. And don't stress killing seals....the sewer in Denver is not very likely to make it to an ocean, lol!!
vgreen89 says: Jan 9, 2011. 2:24 PM
No, but it probably goes into at least one river, where I'm willing to bet other animals (beavers, muskrats, etc.) live that could be also contract toxoplasmosis and be affected by other harmful substances that may be in your cat's litter. However, these animals are not currently being pushed into an extinction vortex like the sea otters.
redneckuprising says: Dec 3, 2010. 3:52 PM
This is just awesome. But there's no way in hell MY cat would be able to fit through that hole...
Mason5280 says: Nov 18, 2010. 9:09 PM
Hey there! Great idea - if I had cats, it'd be in the works! And how is Jeff Park? Denver native here - Lived in JP 1999-2006 before immigrating to Canada. Miss the city, hood and the beautiful old Victorian I renovated there. Cheers!
AfricanMystic says: Oct 28, 2010. 6:27 AM
I just love this box. It's so neat and well executed. Plus it's a great idea.
EmmettO says: Oct 11, 2010. 5:56 PM
I'm not quite getting how you vented the litterbox. I see the hole in the top of the drawer so I'm thinking air gets drawn out there, but then what? A thought on doing this without any electricity is to take a cue from composting toilets and have a black vent stack that is exposed to the sun. The warm air in the stack rises and then sucks air out. It would be handy for those that might not like playing with electricity.
Denver_80211 (author) says: Oct 11, 2010. 6:39 PM
In step 2 you can see the black pipe. that connects to a box which houses a bathroom ceiling fan. natural forces tend to keep air moving up that pipe and out the roof of the home so, the fan is overkill. Perhaps it the sun heating the pipe as you suggest but i lean more towards warm air rising.

You are right about the hole in the box. when closed that hole lines up with the fan intake.
EmmettO says: Oct 12, 2010. 3:36 AM
Is the pipe no longer connected to plumbing? If it is you're real lucky that sewer gas isn't escaping back into the room.
Denver_80211 (author) says: Oct 16, 2010. 9:42 AM
See new image added to project. I agree that it's a bad idea under normal circumstances. Use a dedicated line
EmmettO says: Oct 16, 2010. 10:20 AM
Ah, I see, the trap at the bottom was what I was missing.
Denver_80211 (author) says: Oct 17, 2010. 5:33 PM
I opened the wall and gave the system a dedicated stack to eliminate any possible concern. See additional images and notes.
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