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Buying used bikes for beginners

Buying used bikes for beginners
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(The content in this Instructable first appeared in my new blog at http://biodieselhauling.blogspot.com/
To my 40 Instructables subscribers, and anyone who stumbles across this and likes it, be sure to take a look, as much of what I write isn't quite right for an Instructable.)


Bikes are perhaps the greatest human invention of all time.
They get you from where you are to where you want to between 2 and 5 times as fast as you could walk there, but they use absolutely no fossil fuel or external energy what-so-ever, which means they have basically no environmental impact and no operating costs beyond the original manufacture and purchase.

However, if you are not already a "bike person", the amount of choices in type and brand and size and accessories can be overwhelming.  If you buy new from a local bike shop, the salesperson will most likely walk you through the process of deciding what will fit your needs, but if you want to save money (and further reduce your eco-footprint) you should really buy everything you possible can used.

So, for the beginners who know just about nothing about bikes but want to get one from Craigslist, or perhaps a thriftstore or yardsale, I'm going to break down for you exactly what to look for and what to avoid.
 
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Step 1About me

About me
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First, for anyone who doesn't know me personally, my credentials on the subject:

I began riding regularly for fun and transportation in 1992, when I was 12.  The next year I began riding to school every day, so that I could keep the bus money for other things.  In high school, in addition to daily commuting (to school and internship) and weekend rides of 40-100 miles, I began annual 4 day trips down the CA coast with a group of teachers and friends.  After college I went with the couple that had organized those annual rides from San Francisco to Puerto Vallarta Mexico, and went solo from there along the coast to Acapulco and then North to Mexico city (over an 8000ft pass) for a total of 2800 miles over 2 months.  When I returned, I took a job as a bicycle messenger.  I eventually ended up also working as a messenger in New York City.

In 20 years of serious riding, I have had a bmx bike, a steel touring bike, a British internal-hub drop-frame from the late 60s, a carbon fiber racing bike, an aluminum mountain bike, and two folding bikes, all of which together I paid a grand total of $450 for (of which $400 was the carbon fiber road bike).

Eventually I returned to CA where, for the past 5 years, my primary job has been as a hauler (mover, and handyman) which involves picking stuff up that people don't want anymore, and then finding new owners for those things. This involves either selling or giving away anything which is still useable (which is most of what I pick up), frequently on Craigslist.
My second job for the past 5 years has been as a mechanic in a tiny bike-shop of sorts, the Bike Station, whose primary service is FREE secure valet attended bicycle parking, but also offers relatively low-cost repairs.  Because we don't sell new bikes, and because we never turn anyone away for lack of bike quality, I have been able to work on a great variety of bikes, of all types and ages and cost levels, which is rare in any one shop.
(My third job is a reserve for the Coast Guard, but that isn't relevant to this at all)

And now... on to the content!
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May 7, 2012. 3:01 AMbgtcars says:
Department store bikes can be made safe for a very low cost if you know what you are doing. I have been working on bikes motorcycles cars trucks and anything that moves for about 50 years. I am a master auto and master med/ heavy truck mech. but that dosen't fix bikes. Just take the front wheel off of a department store or some bike shops and look at the bearings. I have and they don't have enough grease in them for one bearing let alone both. They are this way because the people putting them together think the factory lubed all that needed it so they let it go and don't check. Most dept. stores have anybody that is not busy build a bike if one is needed at that time and none are ready. When China and japan bought all of the bike manuf. quality went to crap, just buy a new one next week. I have some Schw, and Mur, and a Huffyor tow that are from 1943 or so and they ride as good as a 300$ Mongoose and I think better. Lubein and taking time to adjust everything is better than high dollar parts I have seen wheels rub on one side because they were on crooked not adjusted.
Apr 25, 2012. 6:54 PMwschruba says:
I can't help but point out that single pivot sidepull brakes or a one piece crank (aka Ashtabula crank in the US) is not necessarily a sign of a poor bike. These were proven, if antiquated, technologies 40 and 50 years ago. A well adjusted one piece crank will spin just as well as a three piece, though it is much heavier. Single pivot calipers can stop a bike just as well as modern day brakes. They are both more complicated to service than modern parts, but can work just as well with proper care. Don't immediately discount these if you find them on an old bicycle; a 40 year old Schwinn can be just as fun to ride as a modern rode bike.

That said, if you have the choice between a Schwinn Varsity and a Raleigh Superbe...get the Raleigh. 3 Piece cranks and...other...brake technologies ARE superior to the old types.
Jan 22, 2012. 12:58 PMbuteomont says:
Nice instructable, but you lost me at step 2. It's this kind of snobbery that keeps me from joining a bicycle club. I do a lot of bike riding, and my favorite bike is a Schwinn that I bought at Target for $300. Folks that share your opinion probably laugh behind my back, but that's their problem, not mine.

If your reason for riding is to "get there" as quickly as possible, or if your ego is hurt when other riders pass you, then by all means go buy an expensive road bike. But if you are like me and ride for the enjoyment and exercise, a department store bike is fine.

Just my $0.02 worth.
Mar 4, 2012. 10:17 AMneil1701 says:
quite right mate,i bought a halfords rigid apollo bike a number of years ago for £80 here in Scotland,where i stay.After a week the front fork folded, i had the receipt took it back to no avail. I would generally say any bike new that costs less
than £300 is a poor investment whatever that is in your dollars.I have two bikes i use at the moment,a cheap halfords Trax TFS1 which one of the cranks broke on but i just use that bike for short-distance trips,to shops,into towncentre etc and a 1998 Trek 800 sport,which didnt cost me anything as someone gave me it but certainly a bike of around $300/£300 price mark originally.As to the comment butreomont made about snobbery - if you were sitiing in a Ford Capri or a Ford Mustang and someone drove past in a Ferrari or a Lamborghini they would probably look down at you anyway.Generally you get what you pay for but this is not always the case..
Apr 16, 2012. 11:10 AMwakojako says:
Have to agree with you there.
It annoys me to see people my age (13-16) riding around on crappy "Muddy Fox" or "Apollo" bikes from Halford's - acting like they are experts. It's not because I detest enthusiasm but rather it's a hatred of this modern 'Xbox' lifestyle.

Instead of plonking their children (young children that is) in front of their Brighthouse TV, letting them fester in their own stupidity, parents should involve themselves in the upbringing of their offspring - instilling values and a thirst for knowledge.

From an early age my parents got me making things and doing stuff, IE; riding bikes. Instead of wasting money on a fancy games console I was taught to ride on good bikes that fit me and were safe. This applies to anyone:
Not only should people ride safe good bikes; they should be taught how to ride well and within their limits.

Too many people take cheap bikes to the trail and end up getting hurt - putting them off the great sport of cycling. (Including unicycling - my kind of cycling)
Apr 11, 2012. 4:52 PMSparker94 says:
Great Instructable. I wish I had read this before I bought 2 schwinns off C-List. One has a small defect with the derailler but the other actually has a missing sprocket and bent derailler and two bike shops said they aren't worth fixing although they are like new still with the rubber nubs on the tires. I should have stuck with GT!
Mar 1, 2012. 7:58 PMazimmerman2 says:
Remember to always shop Thrift stores, I got a 1989 Kona Lava Dome in near perfect condition for 25 Dollars . I looked online and i found it going for 150+. Good will is a good place to check for solid vintage bikes.
Feb 23, 2012. 6:59 PMGENIUSMAXX says:
Thank you for trying to educate the masses but it is definitely an uphill battle. I am a bicycle mechanic and 90% of our repairs are on cheap big-box bikes (I'm looking at you Wal-mart, Target, Dick's, REI, etc.). People flat out don't care that their bikes are unsafe, they just want them to roll. There is an old saying, "Buy the best and only cry once" and this applies 100% to bikes, better bikes use better parts, plain and simple, but they cost more. If you don't care how good the parts are, then buy crap but don't expect it to be great. Thanks again, very useful information that EVERYONE should know by now, Big companies do not care about you or your safety unless it affects their bottom line.
Feb 16, 2012. 5:27 PMhawkfrost64 says:
I got into BMX recently, out of peer pressure, however, it has turned out to be very fun. =)
However, when my friends were telling me what to buy, they only told me *not* to buy a Huffy, they didn't recommend any brands. So I went out and got a $60 dollar bike from Wal-Mart. Total piece of crap.
When I rode it to school, they made fun of me and ripped off the chain guard. It had a front (caliper) brake, and coaster brakes, in addition to one-piece cranks, a dinner plate of a sprocket, and the stem and fork couldn't be removed from each other or the frame. The pegs were unsuitable for grinding, or flatland tricks, which are the only uses for pegs on a BMX bike, not to mention, they only fit on the front wheel, they didn't make a 14 mm one for the back. I crashed it into a curb, and the front wheel collapsed. The rim "pac-man"-ed, so it looked like...well, Pac-Man.
Before that, though, the brake pads stopped working, so the brakes became useless. The coaster brake was unable to bring me to a complete stop. It was terrible. I only had the bike for 1 month before the wheel collapsed.
Jan 25, 2012. 4:22 PMscraptopower says:
In step 5, the old style stems are prone to snapping. Something to do with the type of metal used. I've personally seen 4 of these snap clean in half, I'd get those replaced with a modern one if that stem is more than 10 years old.
Feb 13, 2012. 3:24 AMpeterpenge says:
Not to be rude but it might have to do with your riding-style, Straps or cleats (and a little Technic) will enable you to put out lots of power without pulling hard on the handlebar.....
Jan 22, 2012. 8:50 PMpfred2 says:
You might be off a bit about what year good bike tubing material came out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_531
Jan 25, 2012. 4:15 PMscraptopower says:
531 is quite nice! A nice, light weight, quality bike is worth it's weight in gold, fortunately you can usually pick them up cheaper than that! *

*Wishes fixie trend would stop pushing up the price of nice steel bikes ;)
Jan 25, 2012. 7:28 PMpfred2 says:
I got my 531 Trek at a garage sale for $50
Jan 23, 2012. 7:11 AMpfred2 says:
There was stuff called Columbus tubing back then too. They were Reynolds rival.
Jan 23, 2012. 12:22 PMpfred2 says:
Yeah a Columbus tube bike with a Campy groupo on it was hot stuff back in the day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Tubing

I have a vintage Trek touring bike made out of 531.
Jan 23, 2012. 5:11 PMpfred2 says:
Any of those bikes left are probably in museums today, in Italy. Ha ha.
Jan 24, 2012. 4:50 PMAron313 says:
I think that all walmart bikes suck. I saw a bike that had a sign that said it was a mountain bike. The name of the bike was roadster. The fork shocks suck because its made like a pen. No seals or anything to keep dirt out just a spring that can not be ajusted. It weighed a lot!!! I think the bike was about $300 to $400 which is way too much for the bike. I work at exton bikes and i recommend you buy a Specialized bike or Giant bike. Its worth all the money because most bikes that come in for a repair are walmart bikes and i have had many people come to the shop and say that they had bought a walmart bike and then a good name brand from our store. Then the only bike that needs the most repairs was the walmart brand. Its worth the money to buy a good bike. Eventually the money will come back to you because the bike is well made! That doesnt mean that bikes dont need maintenance! If you maintain your bike you will get a long life out of it and many good riding days! :)

If you want a jumping bike i recommend the specialized P1 or P2. Very good bikes. My P1 has not broken yet except for flat tires! GT is also a good brand!
Jan 23, 2012. 1:09 PMmrguy19187 says:
Honestly I think you are spot on with the Walmart Bikes. Sure that guy may have gotten a workable Schwinn bike for $300, but even if it works fine, it will not last as long as other non-bargain bikes that you can get on Craigslist for the same or less money. Not only that but buying such a bike encourages the manufacture and sale of bikes that are practically disposable. Those kinds of business practices are not sustainable and need to end. That says nothing of the ethical problem of selling a customer a bike made to fall apart in a year or two and causing the need to purchase another. If nothing else, you can find the same crappy bikes on Craigslist and avoid giving your money to those people. I wouldn't call it snobby, I'd call it being responsible with your money.
Jan 22, 2012. 6:27 PMl8nite says:
this instructable seems to lean toward touring and although its well written its more than many are looking for. A used department store bike is just fine for cruising the neighborhood or beach and are plentiful on craigslist and yardsales and if you have a pile like your first picture as I do, you can keep them operating for next to nothing for a long time. Perhaps a better title would be "buying used touring bikes for beginners"
Jan 23, 2012. 10:11 PMl8nite says:
oddly enough I have never had a coaster brake fail to stop me unless I was on a wet surface, of course the same can't be said about rim pinching brakes but that's usually a matter of adjustment. Are the bikes built out of cheap tubing, definitely, will they support my 250pounds? Yes. Will the survive if I try to take a jump? Probably not. Am I going to jump a bike? Definitely not ! Not even the so called trail bikes but then I wouldn't try jumping a high dollar bike or a motorcycle or even my 4x4 on purpose anyway.

Cost of repairs, I suppose that if you take your bike to a shop it will cost you a small fortune, most of which will be shop/labor charges so for people who can't or won't do their own repairs this could be a real consideration but really how hard is it to replace the bearings in a headstock? And if you get the bearings from a bike you broke the pedal crank on and kept for parts the cost is only a little more time. If you rescued the bikes from the curb then your total cost would be... 0.00?

I have a young friend who does trial? competitions, his bike cost something outrageous like $5,000.00 ! He can ride it off a house roof with no problem or climb in the back of my truck without touching the ground but when it does break it costs! The bike he puts 200+ miles a week on around town started out as a walmart special.

Perhaps commuting in a more urban setting like NYC or Chicago would be different, although Jacksonville Florida is considered a city its more like a bunch of small towns connected together with a small urban center. So we may be discussing apples and oranges in several ways but just like I will never be convinced that buying a $30,000.00 truck is more economical than my $500 25yo truck that gets 30mpg (20 churning thru the mud) I don't think I could ever be convinced that buying an $800 dollar bike makes more sense than my $50 beach cruiser

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