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Ok. I know that there is already an instructable on how to build a capacitor bank charger, but for those of you who are either looking for more inspiration, or just want to see a different way to make it, check here. This version made is more of a ~much~ more deluxe version. Why did I make this? Well, I was going to use it for a coilgun, until I realized that the idea of being able to shoot something at at least 300fps is not plausible, unless you have a more powerful circuit (and therefore more powerful cap. bank). I am a bit new to this electronics stuff, so if any of you out there have some know-how to contradict this, and if it really IS plausible, please, prove me wrong! Please note, though, that this device has a very high output voltage, and it (might?) kill the weak of heart if an arc occurs across their heart (not to mention, it HURTS), so be careful when handling any capacitors and/or the circuit connected to them. Lastly, Please excuse me for any errors there may be in this instructable; it is my first. Enjoy!

6-21-07 UPDATE: Added an SCR into the circuit (new button; the old one short-circuited). Details on the SCR on step 3.

Step 1: Enter at Your Own Risk!

EDIT: Make a more robust coilgun! Use this guide as a supplemental reference, but you probably don't want to use it as a standalone walkthrough. This is a wonderful starting point but some things have been misengineered (made up my own word...).

Looking back on this instructable, I realize there are numerous fatal flaws in the design. Some recommendations:

-A more stable (and much faster and effective) CHARGER

-At the current time, I'm pretty sure the SCR in this design will, *ahem*, explode the way it is implemented. One with higher voltage/current abs. max ratings is necessary, or you can use a technique called "Paralleling, Anode to Anode, Gate to Gate, and Cathode to Cathode" (I'm quoting an excellent site for coilgun reference HERE ). Pardon my engineering but I think it was about 15 when I did this instructable.

Good luck and have fun!


Step 2: Parts List

materials

-project box or some other sort of enclosure (I used a RadioShack one)
-disposable cameras; the more, the better (in this case, 14 of them)
-1.7V volt or VERY low consumption LED (I used a RadioShack 1.7V red LED)
-binding posts (those screw-down thingies on the outside of the box) RadioShack catalog #274-661 or equivalent (you will need 4)
-2x on/off switches (I used what I had; PCB (PC Board) ones.
-some wire (In this case, I used 22 guage, but I think you can use a lower guage even though there will be high voltage/current; it's only split-second bursts)
-batteries and holders (maximum 6V)
-large on/of rocker switch (optional for protection)
tools

-soldering iron & solder (you CANNOT just wrap the connections; they need to be permanent and well-connected for this project)
-multimeter
-pliers
-electrical tape (masking tape WILL NOT suffice)
-wire cutters
-Drill and Proper Bits
-skill


Step 3: Make/Connect the Capacitor Bank

This is simple. Take all the disposable cameras you got, and (carefully) discharge the two leads coming from each capacitor on the chips (if you have not already done so). BE CAREFUL. If you touch these leads, you will get a nasty shock. after that, cut the capacitors off the boards, making sure to leave as much of their leads on them (it will make soldering them together easier. Then line them up so that there are two rows of five caps, with the striped sides (-) facing in one direction (in this case, they are all facing towards the bottom right-hand corner of this photo). Then solder them together (- to - to - to - and + to + to + to +, and so on and so forth). My original design was just four of the caps on a bread board, and that's why there is a bread board in this project. I was just too lazy to take the caps off and solder them on to the other bank, so you can just add them to the bank, and not bother with a breadboard. Now after all this, solder the array to the directions of the schematic, but BE SURE to solder them with proper polarity, or they WILL explode!

Step 4: Build and Enjoy!

I am sorry I am unable to list multiple steps and pictures with each step, but I finished this project before I discovered Instructables.com. If you have questions, feel free to ask me any questions you may have! Refer to the mock schematic for reference (Note: you will have to get the higher-res one to see the words. Click on the little I at the top left-hand corner of the picture, and then at the next page, click on the link at the bottom-left hand corner of the picture). Most importantly, DO NOT cross the wires on this schematic. I know it looks like they cross at certain points, but ignore that. Failure to heed this warning may lead to a burnt out circuit, blown capacitors, or a number of other [bad] things. Another note: once you have assembled this, you can add additional capacitors to the circuit (just wire them to the external charging jacks), and they will add to the power of the internal ones, like I did with my massive, blue Nippon Chemi-Con's.

6-21-07 UPDATE: Below is the SCR (Silicon-Controlled Rectifier) that I salvaged from a light dimmer (model no. Q2008LT). Basically what it does is, it triggers the capacitors to discharge when it receives a small pulse of electricity above ~.5V. This way, the only electricity going into the switch is just as low as the power source you use to trigger the SCR. You can find SCR's in certain electronics, or you can order one online for less then 50 cents, BUT BE SURE NOT TO CONFUSE SCR'S AND VOLTAGE REGULATORS (and triacs); THEY BOTH DO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THEY LOOK EXACTLY ALIKE!! Also, don't worry about the middle pin; we won't be using it.
Using the circuit I provided will, unfortunately, ruin your switch and make the coilgun inefficient. But by using the new setup with the SCR, it will work much more efficiently. Be sure to take a look at the schematic (the 2nd one)!
NOTE: Elaborate on the diagram; I have not updated it to reflect the added components.

6-24-07 UPDATE: DO NOT USE THE SPECIFIED MODEL OF SCR; IT IS ACTUALLY A TRIAC (different kind of device; looks the same). Try using one of the SCR's on THIS page.

Step 5: The Finished Product!

Hers are the guts! When you want to use it, just connect about 3 volts to the power binding posts, make sure the charging switch is set to "on", and wait until the light is solid. Then push the discharge button to release the charge out through the prongs. The thing is, the light is does not indicate a FULL charge. Use a mutimeter to check the power coming out of the capacitors as they charge, but be careful. They are fully charged when the meter stops at ~320V, and it should not be too different for you, depending on what camera circuit you are using; these circuits usually charge the caps to around 300-330V. When you get the highest reading, remember the charge time.

6-21-07 UPDATE: The first picture is the new, revised coilgun.

Step 6: Some Tips

-On the (mock) schematic, DO NOT actually cross the circuit at places where it SEEMS you should make the connections
-Keep the flash in; I do not know why, but when I removed the flash, the caps did not charge. I tried removing the flash AND bridging its connections, and it still did not work. Just leave it in. If you figure out this odd ghost in the machine, let me know.
-When you extend the indicator light to the outside of your enclosure, you don't need to buy and LED IF (and ONLY if) the chip already has one. I would not recommend trying to fuss with a glass neon bulb. They can break.
-You can add a safety switch, which would be in line with the power in wires (and keep it on the inside of the box), so if you don't want anyone messing with it, or just for safety reasons, you can turn it off, so even if someone connects power, nothing will charge.
-MAKE SURE you connect the capacitors properly. If you don't, they WILL explode. Also, be sure o connect the in PARALLEL, not series (Parallel is + to + to + to + and - to - to - to -; so on and so forth. Series is + to - to + to -; so on and so forth). If you do not do this, they will not charge sufficiently.
i still do not get how u wire the capacitors. do you wire them (-+) (-+) with a wire making a U on top of those, turning around at the bottom or (+-) (-+) et cetera with the wire.
You wire them all in parallel. That is + to + and - to -. Imagine it as railroad tracks. You take a capacitor, and line it up with the + leads and all the - leads of the ones behind and in front of it, and then place them on the tracks. At the end of the tracks, you do not make a 'U' or anything (that would short it out, anyways). Visualize it like this: + + + + + + + + + + + + - - - - - - - - - - - -
btw, is it okay to wire capacitors with the same voltage but different uF together?
Yes, but the voltage rating as well as capacitance (uf) has to be the same or higher. ESPECIALLY the capacitance; otherwise if you use one that has a lower capacitance compared to the others, it may rupture and even explode!
Wait... so you do need them to all have the same capacitance?
Yes
but why? capacitors charge until they're full, i've never heard of over charging capacitors
If you put to much voltage to a electrolytic, then it will vent its internal liquids or even explode!
Its possible that they could explode due to the full dump of the charge... for thats how capacitors work... and if it went into a smaller capacitor and overload it..... boom..... so i could see it exploding out... nothing really super dramatic with music or anything.
Nah, I don't think so. If a smaller capacitor was fully charged, the extra energy goes to the larger one, not contribute to explosivity.
well ya, if that capacitor a had RIDICULES internal resistance, and you charged it with a large amount of current
That's what I was thinking....I think you meant voltage in the "rupture and explode" statement. It's like using different-charged alkaline batteries in a toy. It still works, though there is the increased chance of leaking (though it never happens...).
Excuse me. NO I mean. Sorry to sound confusing. Look at my other post again.
thank you.
ohhhh.....thank you.
In this project, they are wired in parallel. All the + are wired together, as well as -. If you are wanting to double the working voltage, you could wire pairs of 2 in series (I'm assuming these are 330V caps) and you will end up with a voltage rating of 660V (a recipe for instant death) and half the capacitance. So if they are 180uF, 2 of them wired in series would result in 660V @ 90uF. So If you had 8 and wired four of them in series, and then wired the pairs in parallel, you would have a bank of  660V @ 360uF. Pretty dangerous. I don't recommend anyone with a lack of experience in HV attempt to build anything on this page. I've seen capacitor banks so powerful, that they have actually blown off fingers! This one, while it may not blow of any body parts, can still stop your heart if you get bitten by it in the right location and at the right timing.
You can remove third wire.<br> <br> The third wire is as n3ldan wrote to ionize xenon bulb so the electrons can pass (to ignite flash). Actually smaller capacitor and coil is there only for that purpose, and can also be removed, also led or neon bulb indicates when cap is charged, that can as well be removed.<br> <br> There is a nice youtube moving explaining how the circuit works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YuDlhMMIaw<br> <br> It's very simple, there is a nice transformer with transistor which makes an oscillator, diode to rectify from AC to DC and that goes to large cap charging it.<br> <br> <strong>Warning: If you ask such a question, or having doubts, you probably don't understand what it safe, and you shouldn't be playing with high voltage (HV) circuits. High voltage can kill you.</strong>
To be fair, High voltage isnt whats truly dangerous. Its the Amperage that will getcha
parallel=voltage series=capacitance
Hmm ? I thought parallel -&gt; capacitance and series -&gt; voltage <br>Am i wrong ?
I agree with you, <br>2 cap series = 1 cap 1x Voltage 2x capacitance<br><br>2 cap parallel = 1 cap 2x voltage 1/2x capacitance
It's the exact opposite of what you're saying :)
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G15800">here</a> u can buy camera flashes! real cheap! :D<br/>
Or instead of buying them you could just go to any where that has photo development:Walmart, Target, etc. I managed to get 24 used cameras in one visit today over half of them Kodak just say that you need them for a science project and NEVER something that even the strictest person would even think about calling dangerous. :D
In the country where i live i can't even find unused cameras costing less than 10 Euros ... Any tips about any good site <br>to get them for really cheap or even free ? In addition Capacitors are far too expensive than the prices people say... :(<br>Any advises are welcome
it's okay, aren't we all 15?
how much did your caps cost cause i got one for &pound;26 rated at 400V@3900uf and i was wondering if this was a bit expensive?
i have one rated for 68000 uF @ 16V
I need help:<br><br>I am making a charging circuit for a coilgun, but i accidentally bought non polar caps. I was wondering if i could still use these with some sort of circuit adjustment, or if i need to purchase all new polarized caps? Can you help?
what are the red and black things stinging out of the box (there are 2 pairs of each)
binding posts (no offense, but that was sort of a stupid question.) :/
The only stupid question is the one that isn't asked
Very true.
I disagree. Some questions are honestly just stupid, like asking a postman what he is doing while putting mail in mailboxes, or other such questions. The only questions worth asking are the ones that will benefit the inquirer, audience, venue, or person asked.
i disagree, not all people know what a mailman is. ex(if someone comes from a smaLL TOWN and there is no mail, they would not know what a mail man was
Um... what? Mail comes to literally every city in the U.S., and pretty much anywhere anyone with access to a computer has access to a mailman, so...
yes because fedex will drive 50 miles into the corado mountains to deliver mail. good try but fail
or it may be a small town where people still drive to the post office to get there mail PO boxes guys get with it
There are no stupid questions, but thinking everyplace in the country gets mail directly delivered is a stupid assumption.<br><br>Also, maybe the poster just hasn't worked with electronics and thought the binding post might be some functional part they've never seen, have some understanding for people who's pool of knowledge is different than yours. And asking questions about things you don't know is smart.
they are plugs for external power connections, there instead of alligator clips
do i need to have the circuit board from the camera to charge the compasiters , i have many large compassiters but no board , can i just hook the compasiters to a battery and it will charge ?<br>or do i need the circiut board from the camera to get the power from the battery into the compasiters at a higher volatge or somthing
red spaghetti? lol
are the capacitors in series or parallel
it easy... parallel = POWER but spent batteries FAST series = LESS POWER but spent battery SLOW it also has explanations more informative, but this is just an example ^^
Parallel. If you try to wire them in series they will do nothing. I can't quite explain how they work, but wikipedia sure can :) Even if you don't really care how they work, for safety's sake, and future experiments, it's probably a good idea to read about them anyway.
Actually, wiring capacitors in series increases their voltage rating, but halves total capacitance.
It will not necessarily half the capacitance 1/Ct = 1/C_1+ 1/C_2+1/C_3 ....
I'll have to read up on that, I was under the impression that you could not directly wire them in series, but I think I've got a great use for higher voltage. Thanks for the correction.
Just completed a slightly modified version of this project and thought I would post a very important issue.... .....On my cameras chip (all 4 of them), the positive and negative are in reverse from your drawing. Found this out the hard way. I blame myself for not taking note of the batteries position before removal. So again, on the cameras that I have (Kodak HD Power Flash) the negative is by the flash which would be the bottom right on your drawing. Thanks for taking the time to post this instructable and aside from the issue with the drawing (which could be a design change by Kodak) it was very helpful.
i am noticing some contradiction between diffirent coil gun ibles. some say to use a charger bank, while others just use one charger and it seems to work fine. wat are the advantages and disadvantages to useing a bank as opposed to a single charger?

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