Eliminate the expense, hassle and foul odor(and maybe taste) of lighter fluid
<p>how long to</p>
<p>well you can make it in less than a day, if that's your question(maybe a matter of hours or less), if the question how long to get the coals going i'd say like half hourish(30 minutes) depending on the under fire. I think you could improve my design by adding more or bigger holes on the bottom should make it go faster</p>
Nice work. A couple of wire coat hangers could make a fine handle.
<p>yeah great tip thanks</p>

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