Step 3: Predrill, countersink

Measure and mark both ends of the shorter 2x4's (on the broad face) 3/4" in from the edges and 3/4" in from the ends. The picture makes this much more clear. Predrill and countersink with the #10 bit. You will be drilling two holes in each end of each short 2x4, eight holes in all. After this step, there is no need to predrill any more holes, so put the countersink away.
Just so ya'll know, if you use an impact screwdriver and not a drill driver the phillips head screws go straight in. I was using a drill with a bit to run 4 inch screws into the studs of a wall and when the drill gets loose and jumps the track while your still pressing in it just eats the screw head. Not so with impact driver. I have never had the impact driver jump out the track of a phillips head screw, even once its all the way in it'll keep driving. Impact drivers are awesome!! I have a Ridgid at home and the new little 12V Dewalt for work.
By the way here is my twin version. It is kinda high for my liking and for kids to climb onto so I think I am going to chop the legs in half. It was nice to put those kids jumpers and walkers under there for a while.
Thanks for the pics. I bought an impact driver several years ago, immediately after borrowing a co-workers. Unfortunately, I used it so much that it was in the shop being repaired when I made this Instructable. They were also really expensive at the time, so I didn't think many do-it-yourselfers would have/want to buy one. I frequently use mine to drive 12" to 20" long "timberlock" or "olly" screws while timberframing and installing SIPS panels, and have even used it to remove the lugnuts on my truck a time or two, not to mention siding two houses using solely screws as fasteners, and half a dozen+ metal roofs. Impact drivers rock, and are, IMHO, the best cordless tool invention ever.
2015: places rent tools <br>(Goes off to look up &quot;impact driver&quot;.)
I am totally inept and I built this bed a year ago. It is a great bed, used with Otis futon. One of the best things about this bed is that it takes up so little space due to the fact the mattress overhangs. The size of the mattess if the amount of space the bed takes up. I'm about to undertake building 2 more. My husband is impressed as I have no carpentry experience whatsoever. Just trying to encourage other slightly beyond middle age women out there. <br>Thanks! Oh, p.s. only problem was that I couldn't find torx screws anywhere in the size recommended. Should I use deck screws on the next beds?
Being me and a bit overbuilding, I use hex-head lag screws. Yes, they show. I call it decoration and industrial and they can be removed
If you have already built one, you are NOT inept. You read it and ran with it and it worked out, and you're about to do it again (and again). I'd like to see pics. As for the &quot;deck screws&quot;: &quot;deck screws&quot; will be more expensive (you're paying for corrosion-resistant screws), and if you made the first one with Phillips screws, you can make the other ones with Phillips too. If you still can't find Torx or stardrive screws, try finding Robertson or squaredrive screws. If you are really into it, McFeeley's&nbsp;<a href="http://www.mcfeelys.com/">http://www.mcfeelys.com/ </a>has just about any kind of screw you could possibly want. Any kind of drive other than Phillips or flat will make it far, far easier and faster, so ordering might be worth your time.<br>
<p>Thank you for the link. Finding the #10 2&quot; Torx wood screws was impossible at Lowes, Home Depot, and my local lumber store. I used #8 instead as that was all those stores carry that is close to the #10 2&quot;.</p>
I built this bed yesterday in a full sized version. I started with Phillips head screws which were a disaster, and quickly chose to drive all over town in search of Torx screws. After I found them, an hour and forty five minutes later, my &quot;work in progress&quot; guest room has a great looking sturdy bed! I'm working on a wood burning project for the headboard, and my daughter has already asked that I make her one in a twin version and paint it turquiose! I am going to shorten the legs though, she's only 5, lol. We are going to get the materials later today!<br><br>I am going to build bedside tables and bookshelves myself also. Once I realized how much money I could save, I decided the entire guest room will be made by yours truly.<br><br>Thank you aeray! I am inspired! ;-)
Ah 4 years ago. What is the problem with phillips-heads? I looked up &quot;cam out&quot; in Wikipedia. I saw the same recomendation as the OP but didnt understand.<br>Did it have any tendency to wobble with use, ie did the legs go out of square? <br> Many thanks for posting
<p>what are your measurements inside the legs on the long side of the full bed you made with these plans? trying to decide if I can use this to store a twin mattress under the full bed. so the leg-leg distance is the important measurement for me. thanks.</p>
What measurements did you use for the full size bed?
Excellent work, and thanks for the photos.
Just made 2 of these (twin size) had to make different heights to accomodate mattress thickness. My sons wanted couch height. This was so easy, thank you for the instructions.
Do have the measurement for twin size
They are given multiple times in the comments.
<p>May I ask what measurements you used? and How are the platforms holding up for you?</p>
Glad you liked it, and thanks for the photos.
AWESOME project! I have put together some name brand furniture with more difficulty and lesser quality. I asked the lumber yard to cut it for me and just assembled it when I got home. It took about 1 1/2 hours and an adjustment after I was finished as it set too high for my thick mattress. I used it until I moved and gave it to my niece who has been using it now for over a year with no problems. Thank you for a great, easy project.
I'm glad it worked for you, and thanks for the compliment.
I absolutely love the instructable! I built the first bed and then I could not stop and had to build one for the upstairs bedroom as well. :) I think the text was well written and even with zero carpentry background I was able to build the beds with great success. Thanks aeray!
I made this today! Thank you for posting such awesome directions. I have never assembled anything this 'detailed' before. I had the help of tool identification and uses from my dad and an exceptionally smart 7 year old cousin. I haven't put my mattress on it yet, but I've got a feeling its going =)to be postiively splendiferous. <br><br>By the way --- using a saw leaves you with a very strange satisfying feeling!! =)
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Any pictures?
aeray,<br><br>I told you I was going to do it again...but I didn't! She did it herself! (I pre-drilled all the holes) But she really did her thing, this was an excellent project to do together.<br><br>Thank you again.<br><br>
Thanks again. As divalea wrote: &quot;I guess platform beds are like kittens, peanut butter cups, and potato chips: hard to stop at one!&quot;<br><br>My only other comment is that the slats look a little widely spaced. If it is a fairly stiff mattress, and your daughter is fairly light (as it appears) it shouldn't be a problem now. As your daughter grows, and the mattress ages, you may need to add some more slats.<br><br>Please keep me posted, and keep up the good work.
Thank you, I thought they were far apart also, and was about to go cut another one when I remembered her mattress is the &quot;bunk mattress&quot; it has it's own built in slats at the bottom of the mattress, so I don't think it will be an issue.<br><br>Take care, I'll be checking back often, I noticed you talking about a corner unit and some other projects I'm dying to see, lol.<br><br>Goodnight.
This is an excellent instructable. Directions were clear, thorough and easy to follow. The project turned out just as it should have. Even though we calculated and purchased for a different sized bed (Full) we had no trouble doing so. Took us slightly longer than we had planned but that was due to a severe thunderstorm, two meals and a movie break. :-) We are not &quot;rushers&quot;. Thank you for posting this. We have plans for one more (twin) in a month or so. Also, we decided on a different sized bin due budgetary restraints and found it advisable to &quot;downsize&quot; the legs by 6 inches. I'll post a pic when I can. Also, I'll try to show our &quot;hack&quot; for attaching my legacy store-bought headboard.
I look forward to it.
This is such a wonderful layout for a bed frame/storage area. I have a question for the author, do you see a problem if I substitute using 4x4 for legs. I want to add wheels and will shorten legs accordingly to adjust for the height? Lynn
It shouldn't be a problem.
This looks pretty simple! I'm planning on building this but for a full size mattress. How would the measurements differ?
Just make the slats 5&quot; shorter. Everything else is the same.
Firstly, this bed looks incredible, and it seems like an extreme thorough and concise instructable. As a college student, I especially like the low price estimate!<br><br>I'm hoping to build a platform bed for a twin size mattress, but it needs to fit a 28&quot; tall dog crate underneath. It seems simple enough to just build much longer legs, but is that safe? Should I add an extra leg in the center and/or connect all four legs to keep it from wobbling? Maybe drill it into the studs along the wall? How much bowing do I need to account for? I don't have an extremely extensive amount of carpentry experience, and I'm worried about crushing my dog!
For a twin, you should be fine with just elongating the legs. If you want to be extra-safe, just use 1 x 6's for the legs instead of 1 x 4's.<br><br>
Perfect! Thanks so much! I can't wait to build my bed!!!
I guess platform beds are like kittens, peanut butter cups, and potato chips: hard to stop at one!<br> <br> I built a queen platform for myself this past weekend. I managed to get the Spax screws at Home Despot, but still had to settle for the loathsome Philips. (Which ended up causing problems, mainly fatigue from fighting the camming-out.) Another lesson learned with this project:check the angle on your table saw blade EVERY TIME, even the NEXT DAY. Most of my cuts were at a slight angle, very slight, because my blade got angled just enough from the previous day's cutting. On the slats and legs, this was not a big deal. On the one long frame piece, it was a &quot;use a hacksaw to cut off a slice to square off the end of the lumber because otherwise there will not be a good joint&quot; deal.<br> <br> The building did go faster this time. Still not a two-hour job, but faster. The lumber and screws cost $40. I ended up with a number of 1.5&quot; pieces (that I'm going to use for another project) because it was cheaper to buy 6' lengths of wood than 12'. (6' 1x4 at my HD was $1.99, 12' 1x4 was triple that.) I had to predrill everything again. Even with better screws, the wood split. Grrr.<br> <br> After sleeping on my mattress on the floor for nearly a year (hey, divorced lady, should've taken the King bed frame!), this bed feels really high in the air. It's great!<br> <br> I got the <em>uncut</em> lumber into the Crown Vic this time (last time, I had some pieces cut first, this time I didn't.) It took a while! I've included a pic for proof. ^__^<br> <br> Pic 1 is the bed, all dressed up. I'm using a king comforter and flat sheet. (Bed linens were all sourced from discount stores like TJ Maxx. Still expensive, but much nicer than what the same money would buy for &quot;current season&quot; linens.)&nbsp;<br> Pic 2 is to show the awesome storage under.<br> Pic 3 is construction, using a sewing table and the first platform bed as sawhorses.<br> Pic 4 is &quot;How to get 13 pieces of lumber in a car.&quot;<br> <br> Next project: building your bookshelves to make swell room dividers. Can hardly wait.<br>
Excellent. Thanks for the pictures, especially the last one.
aeray, you are THE MAN! i made your shelves and am super pleased with them - especially since i'm not much of a builder :) i'm planning on making this bed tonight and have everything but the countersink. how important is it that the screws are sunk in? could just a pilot hole be good enough? i'm not trying to be a cheapskate, but if i don't have to buy it i'd prefer not to...<br><br>thank you, btw, for putting together these plans and posting them for free! i'm so proud of myself for building simple/solid stuff for myself.
Just a pilot hole is fine, especially since most Torx head screws are self-countersinking to some degree. The only holes I bothered countersinking are the ones for connecting the 2x4s together for the frame. Oh, wait- if you already made the shelves, that means that you already have a 9/32&quot; drill bit, right?<br>Just drill the small pilot holes, and then use the 9/32&quot; bit to &quot;countersink&quot; them about 1/8&quot;. Problem solved. Post pics when you're done, and look for my upcoming &quot;Cheap, easy, low-waste trestle table&quot; which I should have up by New Years.
Oh, yeah, you used 3/8&quot; all thread didn't you? Whichever bit you used for that will work as well, but be careful not to let it pull itself in too deep.
Hi Aeray, <br>Just wanted to send you pics of one of your bed designs. This is a full size. I had to use a piece of 2x4 vs 2 pieces os 1x4 (see pic). Will this cause me probs over the long run? <br> <br>THANK YOU! <br>MaryAnn
Looks good. The 2x4 shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks so much for posting this! It is just what I needed. Last week my dad came over and I just called out directions to him and his helper. This week, I decided that I needed another one. This time I did it entirely on my own. I have never built anything totally by myself before (I'm a woman in my 30's), so this was really satisfying for me. The one that was built last week was according to your instructions. The one I did this evening was made a little more narrow to fit a full, extra long mattress. Thanks again!!
You're welcome. Post a pic or two.
I made my bed a week or two ago, built it all by myself. Amazed my husband that I actually did it. It squeaks slightly under certain conditions, but I think that I just need to put one new leg under it. For a headboard I really wanted a picket fence type headboard so I put an ad on Kijiji for a peice of used fence. Then , walking past our &quot;burn&quot; pile ( we live on a feedlot) I saw a peice of brown picket fence. My husband helped me fish it out and when I measured it , it was a perfect 60 inches wide, which is exactly what I needed. So I painted it glossy white and popped it between the bed and the wall. Ladada!!! Thanks for the great instructable . Can't wait to try something else!!
This Ible definitely deserves its rating. I just made one last weekend in a few hours. My lumber store down the street didn't have 14' 1x4s, so I had to improvise the breakdown a little and ended up with a few extra slats. I guess it just makes it that much more sturdy. The scrap is also long enough to be used in other projects, so that's a bonus. I'd post a picture, but... well... it kinda looks exactly the same...
After much searching, I found this Instructable for a platform bed. Built it, disassembled it and shipped it to where I needed it. Took under an hour to reassemble at the destination and it's wonderful. I tweaked the instructions slightly to account for the types of lumber available, but it's all worked out. Used the sheet recommendation in Instructables for a bed skirt and use plastic underbed storage containers to hold my clothes until the rest of the furniture arrives. This is a wonderful project and I recommend it to anyone who wants an inexpensive, easy to build bed. Would like to plug Otis mattresses. Made for futons and wonderful for this bed. Super quality - not a cheap mattress but worth it.
Glad it worked for you. I am also a big Otis mattress fan: great beds, great customer service.
i loved this project. i had to go to the home depot to get the lumber though but i got home and had this done within 2 hour. now i want to do the headboard mod with the nigth stand extension. i have already mapped it out and plan to install a drawer under the night stand exstension. thank you so much for such a cool project!!! i have saved a ton of money!!
Well looks like im not the only one that has built one of your beds and liked it. Thanks a lot for posting this instuctable. I've saved a ton of money.