Cheapy Lighter Laser Burner

Here is the world's first BIC style laser lighter! Butane is outdated. Time to use blue burning lasers!
Watch the video and then build your own!

WARNING: This kind of laser can cause permanent damage to eyesight in less than a second. NEVER look into the beam or reflection of ANY laser including this one

Step 1: What You Need

1. BIC lighter. (The non-electronic, standard version) You may want to get two in case you crack the first one.
2. Blue Laser diode and mini-housing
3. Mini-driver circuit
4. (2) 1.5V button cell batteries
5. Mini Momentary switch
6. (1) 4 to 4.3 ohm resistor
7. (2) small magnets
8. Assorted wire

Comments

[JeanTheDuke]

this is hard

[qlocs]

It's funny that the comment about never pointing the laser at someone's face was followed by the beam lighting the cigarette inches away from the smoker's eye. Even the scatter from such a laser can give you "artifacts", little annoying marks on your retina that you will see till you die. Remember the old joke: "Don't look into laser with remaining eye!"

[camping crazy]

I love this! I've watched everyone of your videos on you tube and just found out you had an instructables account.

[kurlie]

also the wiring diagram is a little unclear. How is the switch attached to the rest of the circut?

[kurlie]

Can someone please post a reliable seller for the laser diode needed for this tutorial? Thanks

[colehard]

will a Mini Blue Laser 405nm 5mw 8x13mm work

[mvtrumpetgeek13]

no, its gotta be like 150 mW or higher... it doesnt have to be blue either. the wavelength is the color and the mW number is the power. so the higher that is the more power you will have. i made the mistake of buying the 5mW one before i researched it more.

[apalma1]

some people said to use a diode from a old dvd burner laser diode ,but right now i only have CD Reader laser and would like to ask will it work?

[dczupik]

nope, wont work. its not the right type

[maxpower49]

I have a question hopefully someone will be able to answer, I bought a board that didn't have an on board switch so my question is where is the best place to install a switch, should I put it on the positive or negative on the battery side or should I install it after the driver board inline with the diode on the postive or negative side. Thanks in advance....

[epskoh]

How much would it cost to make one of these?

[sparkyuiop]

Did you focus the diode? Is that a blu-ray laser diode? Where did you get the driver from? What was the total cost?

[curious youth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5erjj6aS5Ws

watch that.

[james1214]

My 2 cents, for what its worth.

Regarding the parts, I believe Kip was giving ideas where you could procure the parts, if the vendor has changed what they have in stock, it isn't necessarily the responsibility of the author to check up on that. It is your job, as a consumer, to make sure you do business with a reputable company, do some research and be smart. If a company (which other commenters have made abundantly clear) has a reputation for not fulfilling orders.... don't buy from them, they won't be in business much longer if that's how they do things.

Also, I believe "cheapy" was a reference to the lighter being used, not the project as a whole.

All in all, a neat project and a great video.

[Greasetattoo]

Is this a scam?
Kinda like the mountain dew that glows?


Hmmmm.....

[solomonhorses]

Instructables community Be Warned! I ordered the parts for this laser kit from LaserDIY.com and it was a total scam. I never recieved the goods, I attempted to contact them, and they do not even have a listed phone number for the company, and the credit card company didn't even know how to contact the merchant. I have contacted the BBB, and hopefully not too many more people will be suckered into this classic internet scam. good instructable, though.

[dangerD]

Is there a cheaper diode and driver that i could buy?

[astchur]

I bought the laser driver in the link provided but its different than the one shown in the pic. Any one have any idea how to hook it up with the new one?

[ski539]

this is a little late. but im having the same problem. i just ordered my parts and they appear to have changed slightly and im not exactly sure how to wire the new on... the diagrams weren't to clear to begin with. has anyone figured it out? any help would be appreciated! itd be a shame to have ordered these parts and not use them.

[lizardosanwen]

how can I make this driver circuit

[jpoopdog]

what the hell, the laser and housing alone costs more than $40!

in what universe is that cheap?

[mondeluz]

it is cheap in universe where i live called europe

[jpoopdog]

i agree, but only because you are European. to me, everything in Europe is super expensive!

[mondeluz]

got that right and might i say that it sucks

[The nerdling]

man, use a laser from a disk player

[yorniloc]

Actually that is rather cheap. You also seem to be rather cheap

[jpoopdog]

seriously i do not understand how that is cheap.

[yorniloc]

How isnt it cheap? your making a laser lighter. you expected it to be free?

[Landon Sullivan]

How is that NOT cheap? I'm out of a job and I'm willing to shell out 40 smacks for something this arbitrary.

[jpoopdog]

i remember when i had a job, and shortly after i quit, i still did not respect my money enough to not be wasteful with it, and properly conserve it. once i had run out, i did, as i am now!

$40 is not cheap consideing it costs $15 for a 500mw green laser diode or $22 for a blue diode( pointer), and $8 for a colimating lense that can be used to invert the beam so that it is useless for anything other than a flash light beyond 5 cm of the lense.

i do not consider it to be cheap.
keep in mind that the majority of people who are interested in burning lasers for fun, are ages around 12-16, and im certain few of them have bank accounts ,let alone enough money to buy the things required for this instructable, nor parents willing to use their credit cards to buy things for them online. take in these factors, and the amount of money it costs, i think Ive made my point.

though from the perspective of someone who has an income of over $200 per week, and as i stated before (i) , do not value money as much as someone whose only source of money is their $10 weekly allowance, this would be worth wile paying for.


also, yorniloc, i would actually expect it to be free, or near free.

[mrxavia]

I think $40 is fairly cheap for this, its 2011 and $40 isn't much anymore, well at least not where I live, but then again the UK is an expensive place to live!

But are you serious that only a few 12-16 year old's have a bank account?
I thought pretty much all 12 year old's had a bank account in the western world?

[jpoopdog]

Im in australia,


few 12-16 year olds know how to link their bank account with their paypal. many of my friends (17yo) , still ask me to buy stuff online for them, because they dont know how to, or think they are taking a risk, linking their paypal to their bank account.
if not that, they ask me to move some of their money, into my bank account, then into my paypal, and then into theires. i dont mind though because they give me a few bucks for doing it, though i am immediately giving them money in my paypal before thiers gets into my paypal, since it takes 4 days on average to get in there.

And i completely agree, the UK is real expensive, from what i know, you buy the same things there for 1 pound, as you do for $1 here in australia, same thing with the euro, and this is from personal experience.
$40 there is what, 25GBP?
if it were $25 i would gladly pay for it, but alas it is not :(

[mrxavia]

$40 usd is about £25, so in the grand scheme of things not much..
London is very expensive...

When I was 12 there was no Internet, but I thought most kids nowadays have debit cards anyway...

[jpoopdog]

alas, debit cards will only go so far. debit cards will only work on paypal if the recipient of the money has a bank account linked to that paypal account, because the money is directly transfered.
Ironically, there are MANY people out there quite a few who sell things, that dont have their paypal linked to their bank, either because they dont need to, or dont want identity theives to clean out their bank if they hack the paypal account.
In which case, like me, when they want to put money into the bank, they move it to a second account which is linked.

Its a shame you cant go and buy paypal debit cards ey!

Once again though, i am in australia, i dont know what goes around in that twisted fun fair known as america!

[mrxavia]

I have no idea what happens in America either, and the few stories I've had told me by expats in America are not good..

I prefer to pay by credit card anyway over Paypal unless its a tiny amount.

[jpoopdog]

no arguments here!

[ALogan97]

Just use a diode from a broken/old dvd burner...

[weswert]

wow that is very cheap...just wondering but where could you find a deal like that?

[jpoopdog]

this for instance once the housing is removed, is a 250mw laser, though the beam is red and weak, it burns all the same
http://www.dinodirect.com/infrared-laser-module-250mw-808nm-currency-AUD.html?d=58585804

[jpoopdog]

http://www.dinodirect.com/?d=58585804

and occasionally on ebay

[jsmith199]

You guys realize, You can get all these parts for WAY cheaper off Amazon.com,
I'm guessing these guys are buying the parts off of amazon and selling them to you.
Search for all this on amazon. Please.

[stef11]

Hey can someone help me out I bought a blue laser diode 405nm and a blue laser driver from amazon can some one let me know if they are the right items?http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004Q6N0HY/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?ref_=sr_1_1&s=miscellaneous&qid=1317250512&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004D4AW16/ref=mp_s_a_4?qid=1317259215&sr=8-4

[David97]

(From the video) 'You shouldn't let the cat play with it.'........ How do you make a cat go woof?

[bconway1]

how did you close the end?

[mondeluz]

ebay.com lots of usefull things! and chap too!

[ksullivan5]

Are there laser liqhters on ebay? could you send me a link of one to buy?

[jimmyfish18]

that was pointless, you didnt even say what you used or where to get it from.

[budjiman1]

not one for reading or paying attention to much... are ya?

[wecnbildit]

lol try again and this time try actually reading....

[KingOfCatfish]

Try reading over "Step 1", it even has links on where to buy these items.

[Chocomarshfrog]

Yes he does. Its in the video www.LaserDIY.com

[scubachase2000]

I what to make one.

[xxlcamlxx]

Please stop insulting children's intelligence!

[gt11182]

Lol if you buy the parts, it costs about 60$!!!

[CyberDoomKnight]

Dude, that is tight!! It is sick AWESOMEE!!!!!!!!!

[airsoftdominator999]

sorry for this if it is a stupid question, but could i buy the 350mW -400mW Blue Laser Diode instead of the reccomended Blue Laser Module 150 mw Hi Power 405nm? I was just wondering if it would give me more burning power.
Thanks

[Mikestr12]

I dont get whats so bad any person with a brain can figure out that a laser reflects yes i know that, but it is NOT a bad thing use a mirror or an in-flammable lump of something thats not shiny to counter the laser heres a diagram

[docrings]

As an eye surgeon, we use lasers for precise controlled burning of the peripheral retina to treat certain detachments or bleeding. Our lasers are typically 250mW, but we only need a 1/10 second burst to burn the retina (25mWsec). We take GREAT care in not burning the fovea, or center of vision. That would be a hefty malpractice lawsuit!

With these DIY lasers, at 50mW+, you would get the same permanently blinding effect with less than a half-second full reflection or accidental direct gaze at this laser...

Playing with these is like playing Russian roulette with a pistol... maybe not this time, but eventually someone is going to get hurt...permanently.

Leave the 10mW+ lasers to the professionals, please, if you think you cannot implement the proper safety protocols. You can have plenty of blue/green laser fun with just 1 mW.

Be careful, and no kids please! They just don't understand the power of light concentrated into the power of a laser... no different than shooting someone in the eye with a BB gun...both can leave a child blind.

Cheers,
Dr. Rings, MD
Ophthalmologist

[Mikestr12]

srry about the rant but really if someone made this you could attatch a metal spine with a mirror at the end the laser would be reflected right back heres an idea of that

spine > /'''''''''''''''''''''''\
======o-----------0 ^ ^
Laser Laser
Handle

[Mikestr12]

First of KipKay is all about safety watch some of his other video hes a genius with electrics jeez most people know about the power of a laser directed at a single point why in the world would somebody not be careful with it, I'm only 12 but im studying the power of a laser and trying to find ways to make them more powerful. Reasons would you rather be blind which has a small good peice your other senses become very accurate or would you rather chop of one of your limb and risk death by blood loss or poison if the blade you cut yourself with was not sterilised..... I would rather be blind. I think about replacing every day saws with lasers. so dont go blabering on about laser being EXSTREMELY dangerous because its safer than all other tools we have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CodeKid1001]

youre right, but im still doing it...

[jj.inc]

Buzkill, but right. I would were heavy level eye protection while doing this, probably about a level 5 lens, a welder is 10.

[nutsandbolts_64]

So if I made a specially designed chamber complete with ceramic insulation and light-proof and using only a video camera inside to view what's happening complete with emergency cutoff switch and fire suppression systems it won't be considered professional? Well, fine, I may not be qualified, but I know more than enough to say that 1mW lasers aren't visible over here where broad daylight reigns supreme. Talk about millions of laser burners spread globally through PC's..... But thank you for that all-too noticeable reminder (literally, latest comment at the top of the comment list and about 4 inches tall on my monitor).

[docrings]

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2011-01-19-laser-beam-pilots_N.htm

More laser incidents against aircraft crews in flight, and case reports becoming more common on blinding incidents with green lasers.

[nutsandbolts_64]

Considering I actually live so close to the airport, yeah I guess you made me not bring out the laser in public. I just don't get how they get blinded by lasers. Is it only helicopter pilots that get blinded?

[docrings]

Most of these incidents are just "dazzling" episodes that reduce best vision for a few minutes...but on a night approach to a landing, this is dangerous and the pilot has to hand-off control to the co-pilot. Not good.

Most damaging is the casual home user with a 250mW+ laser who doesn't realize that small, cumulative damage to the photoreceptors of the retina is happening each time they look intensely at even the reflection of the laser off of a wall or other surface. It doesn't even have to be shiny (aka "specular reflection, which of course is the most intense and dangerous).

Here's an FAA paper on laser incidents to pilots vision and airline safety:
http://www.hf.faa.gov/docs/508/docs/cami/0107.pdf

[nutsandbolts_64]

Agreed that a 250mW laser is 50 times more powerful than a 5mW laser (which is the most powerful laser I've seen first hand so far). I don't even know how a small kid can purchase a 200mW laser from the internet...

[docrings]

Just google "250mw green laser" like most kids do. The kid three doors down just got one for about $10 from his uncle who went to Thailand and bought one from a vendor.

[Thereyouhaveit]

Believe me , i shined a 50mW laser into my eye for 5 seconds and nothing happened to my eye .
Just abit too long of flash blindness .

[shadoward12]

That is true. Even an ordinary green lazer can blind people very quickly, not as quickly as a this, but it can. This is not something to be played with.

[ahoback]

ok dad....

[michaelgohjs]

GOOD INFO
had always wonder how they use lasers for eye surgery since it could make you blind but too lazy to google it

[budjiman1]

Thanks for posting this. You are right. This thing in the wrong hands would be a disaster!

[king kolton9]

''Be careful, and no kids please! They just don't understand the power of light concentrated into the power of a laser... no different than shooting someone in the eye with a BB gun''
im a kid and yes we do understand
ohh and '' no different than shooting someone in the eye with a BB gun...both can leave a child blind''
yes their is a difference one uses diodes and one uses newtons law that F=MxA plus more
''Leave the 10mW+ lasers to the professionals, please, if you think you cannot implement the proper safety protocols. You can have plenty of blue/green laser fun with just 1 mW.'' ohh and most people want a laser that burns and pops stuff no 1 mW can do that
not to diss you but I'm just stating the truth
best regards kk9

[FrozenFire]

A laser can reflect, unlike a BB gun. The danger of lasers is in that people don't understand them. A laser can reflect, be invisible, be shone onto something and still damage your eyes. Especially the cheap Chinese green DPSS lasers put out a lot of IR - invisible danger. I'm not here as Mr. Scaremonger - I'm just saying it's better to buy the appropriate laser goggles for $50 or $100 because $100 won't get you a new eye.

[ALogan97]

But a BB can ricochet off of some surfaces. Less likely than reflecting, but still possible. And also, if you got shot in the eye with a BB gun, it has a much higher chance of going through your eye and into your brain, causing brain damage/death. Of course it's not likely unless the gun was pointed at you from a close distance or it was a really powerful BB gun. And yeah, it's true they can still damage eyes if they're not even pointing at them. I shone one on a wall and was looking at it and it left me dazed for a few seconds.

[reubenq]

Thank you Dr. Rings.... Folks, the doctor means this literally. LESS THAN 1/2 A SECOND is barely a glance.... I've worked in lab environments in the past. Many precautions and please no children in the room whatsoever. In fact, treat these devices as though they were loaded guns, especially around children......

[FrozenFire]

..make that loaded, firing, machine guns.

[doguito]

this rocks

[pyroal]

If I don't use a resistor, won't the beam just be more intense. Also I bought a 30mw green laser module from ebay and wired it directly to 2 AA and it was way more intense than a 50mw blue laser that was "premade" and uses 2 AAA. What could be the reason why my green laser is for intense than my blue laser?

[FrozenFire]

The lighting capabilities will be more intense and... shorter range. It'll either go on fire or just plain break. The human eye is more sensitive to green.

[bsoccer1616]

I found a higher powered laser that is 808nm and 300mw what sized resistor would i need and would i need to change the plans in any other way?

[technoguy94]

Maybe someone already asked this and I missed it, but can you use a CD drive laser?

[nutsandbolts_64]

Possibly. Older CD drives use laser burners, although that info came from a source deep inside instructables.

[zgr95]

nope its IR

[nerd12]

if u cant do it with a cd writer what about a dvd
i have a partially disasembled toshiba dvd writer dirve that about 10 years old so can i use it?

[zgr95]

a dvd writer should work it just wont have as much power

[nerd12]

what are u lighting?

[connorh421]

I just realized, if you were smoking in an enclosed area with this, it would really highlight the beam of the laser. awesome:)

[nerd12]

if you try to light the cigg while it is in your mouth like smokers do you will burn the inside of your nose.
hard to look cool with burnt nostrils. :-) LOL

[Waren-Neutron]

awesome

[mcgovern210]

you can buy this kit on the website where the diode is on sale for 99.99

http://laserdiy.com/kipkaylaserlighterkit.aspx

[legendx]

sooooooooooooooo sweet

[jx53]

Can you make an instructable on how to make the small smoke bomb please? and thanks for this nice instructable

[Jr Hacking kid]

You Buy them at the store when theres fireworks on sale =P

[thomasthetankengine]

Indiana is full of firework-only stores...

[unbentcrayfish]

I really want to make this but don't have the money do buy all of the parts. If I were to obtain a Blue Ray dvd player would I be able to extract a driver from it?

[unbentcrayfish]

also, don't magnets suck power away from batteries?

[wupme]

Somebody knows a good (and not to expensive) german, or at least european, supplier for those diodes and drivers ?

[Kipkay]

I think laserdiy.com ships worldwide. Not sure.

[thepiercedweirdo]

Do not order from laserdiy.com. I made the mistake of ordering from them. I figured since kipkay know what he is talking about (love your instructables/weekend projects) I could trust the site. Wrong. It's been months since I ordered it. They only responded once to tell me that it would be sent out the next week. That was over a month ago. And every other email has been ignored. Look them up online. Everybody says that their products are used and or damaged. Their paypal account has been revoked. Any phone number given for them is disconnected.

Just don't do it. They already took the payment. So I'm out 100+ bucks. laserdiy.com is a scam. OR if they aren't a scam they are just really really shady. Either way I don't see myself ever getting the products I ordered from them.

[fub1985]

is there any way that you could possibly make one and sell it to myself through paypal? reason being is i dont know squat about lazers and i have limited knowledge about circuitry.. please get back to me either on here or at [e-mail] thanks.

[unbentcrayfish]

market your idea! I bet smokers would love not having to buy lighters all the time...

[jimmytvf]

do it yourself! I don't even know how lasers work, who cares! the fun is making it! search it on internet

[wupme]

A supplier outside of the EU would be so expensive. Shipping + like 25-30% customs and taxes...... Thats why i only buy stuff of the EU only if there really is no other way to get it, or if its really cheap. I also think there was some kind of problem with importing laserdiodes over 5mw into the EU, but i'm not that shure about it..

[Zealous]

Yeah I have the same issue, anything vaguely powerful seems to be ridiculously expensive in the EU...

[als_liahona]

Buyer BEWARE! The "Blue Laser Module 150 mw Hi Power 405nm" item sold by LaserDIY is not a self-contained piece. It comes with a 20mw diode pre-installed,which unless you are a mechanical genius, you will have to destroy to remove before attempting to install their 150 mw diode in the casing (good luck not damaging it, the fit is much better in Aixiz casing), and the "specially designed lens that is more efficient and focusses the beam more tightly than any other module on the market" has to be (according to an e-mail from the owner of the site) "glued in" to the top half of the casing, which will pretty much require you to destroy the old lens! When doing this be VERY careful. In an attempt to get a half-decent focus from the beam (I mean anything even close to the original lens), I managed to further damage my diode, and despite wearing rubber gloves (another recommendation from the owner), the light produced by the unit is streaked with what looks like finger prints. My experience with this type of work is limited. If others know the "right" way to insert the diodes and replace the lenses, PLEASE post it. The brass casing is nice, and a lot smaller than most Aixiz modules, but given the high cost (you can get the same diode pre-installed in an Aixiz casing for $20 elsewhere) and the chances of ruining the diode and lenses, as I did, a whole other instructable is needed if you plan to buy the module this one features. Hopefully the owner of LaserDIY will realize that the 3x mark-up should pay for the manual labor of selling what is advertised and you will not have the same problem I did of flushing $87 down the drain. Good luck to all (including Will who will hopefully fix things.)

[jimmytvf]

if the maker says wear gloves, wear ti, don't blame the company to doin' it you wrong

[SepplBeppl]

Does anyone have a solution for this problem?

[iKill]

be less dumb?

[als_liahona]

Who, me, or laserdiy? My suggestion: Buy the parts somewhere else! I was able to make a nice 150mw 405nm laser from parts acquired elsewhere. I doesn't fit in a lighter, but I never cared about that. I have it in copper tubing, with a push button, so it is much like a normal laser pointer. Just order an Aixiz case and glass lens directly from them, and find our build a good driver from another vendor. FWIW, there is an e-mail circulating currently with about 30 people on it whom Will @ laserdiy e-mailed, without bothering to BCC. The majority of people in the e-mail have had a similar experience. Most are unhappy because they never even got their order, and others like me pestered enough that we finally got the order but then found it was nothing like what was advertised! Beware.

[thingygoboom]

It's expensive for what they advertise and it's junk. I agree completely, DO NOT GO TO LASERDIY.COM.
ebay sells the exact same thing, only $10 less

[mersetaxlaw]

Kipkay, big fan and I think your ideas are AWESOME!!! I just finished watching the lighter lazer lazer and I looked up the lazer piece. In the description of the lazer it said and I quote " This allows for burning and engraving". That reminded me of a time in harry potter book 7 when harry used his wand to burn/engrave words onto stone. I know burn onto stone is impossible (is it?) but burning words onto paper or wood would be cool. so what I am asking you is to put the lazer into a wand or a piece of wood that can be shaped into a wandand then show me if that is alright. Please respond soon thank you.

[ToushiroDaijo]

Is there anywhere I can get the laser around my house? It doesn't seem so "Cheap" if the laser costs $60. I have a lot of electronic devices around my house. But not a DVD burner.

[Speedmite]

I know what you mean.

[salikkuraishy]

hey can anyone tell me that can laser diode frm optical mouse will work cause i read that An optical mouse, comprisinga light source configured to emit light having a wavelength in the range of 400-490 nm will that wor ???? Read more: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090153486#ixzz0vCbvEvme

[danlab]

Unfortunately the laser from a mouse will not be high enough power to work for this, you could probably make one using a laser from a dvd burner however.

[salikkuraishy]

one more ques where could i find this mini driver i dont wana buy it !!!! i mean that am able to find in dvd burner or dvd player ?????

[salikkuraishy]

@danlab thnx !!!!!!!!!!!

[jesse0182]

It's been 3 weeks since I placed my order at laserdiy,com for the laser lighter kit and nothing I know it might take a while but no one will respond to any of my e-mail is there a phone number for them because e-mailing them leads nowhere

[Tesla boy]

Would this diode work? http://cgi.ebay.com/Single-445nm-1000mW-aka-1-WATT-BLUE-LASER-DIODE-/220644952796?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335f76cadc If so does anyone know the proper driver for it? -Thanks, Tesla Boy

[akinich]

its not cheap

[nerd12]

this is totally wicked. what mw is the laser? where did you get the smoke bomb? the cats cute. this rocks pls answer my questions.

[stefan.kochev]

Can i make it with red lase diode?????

[-max-]

YES!!!

[zilcho]

would this laser work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220624626267

[martex]

i think if you put a 300mw diode with other components that are weaker might be a bad idea but im not sure.

[zilcho]

So, I bought a 300mw laser diode, if i don't use the driver and instead just use a resistor with a 3v battery (my laser is 2.2v) will it melt the resistor or will I be fine?

[TGIK]

You run the risk of burning out the diode... if you do the math correctly and pick a value that will keep the current below (300mw/2.2V=136ma) 136ma you should be fine... (V/I=R, 3v / 136ma = 22ohm), but if it were me I'd use a little more resistance that the absolute lowest...

[zilcho]

I was also wondering what exactly the purpose of the driver was other than to regulate the voltage from the battery? Couldnt you just use a potentiometer or a few resistors?

[TGIK]

It actually regulates current not voltage, (voltage regulation is actually the purpose of the small resistor in series with the diode.) Using a driver you can have a battery significantly higher than the diode requires, say 6v for a 2.2v diode and the batteries will operate the device longer than a battery only providing the bare minimum. Theoretically the driver should also allow you to insert batteries of a different voltage and still cause no damage to the diode. If it was set up for 6v and you hooked it to 12v it should operate perfectly fine, where in a resistor only circuit it would wreck the laser diode.

[zilcho]

Thanks for the explanation. Do you know of any really good drivers?

[TGIK]

I've actually looked into making this and have ordered parts I believe will work. I ordered two laser drivers off ebay totaling $7 shipped for the pair. They are variable from 80mA to 500mA, I will only need around 150mA for the diode I ordered. I ordered a 300mW 808nm (in the infrared spectrum, mean you cannot see the laser, but it is still a laser) for $4.50 shipped also on ebay. So far I'm at around $15 unless some unforeseen cost occurs. I'm waiting for the parts and will keep you up to date.

[TGIK]

I'm having a problem with the math here... A blue laser diode uses 4V to 5V, the lowest diode rating I can find is a infrared diode using 2.2V. The Laser Driver uses 3V to 4V depending on which kind you buy. 4V + 3V (being generous using low voltages) = 7V powered by... two 1.5V batteries... umm = 3V?

[prodo123]

$91 without tax and S&H. Wow.

[Sokolwar34]

AWESOME!

[clzfishing]

What if I want to make the beam green or red can I do that ?

[martex]

Do not waste money!!!!!!!!! Buying a laser that's only 150mw for $100 is a ripoff when you can get 200mw laser for $27.40 at http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11315 the guide was good but i would rather have something cheaper.

[Carlos5823]

yeah but i cant buy that because i am U.S. citizen and the FDA says its illegal but my brother who lives in mexico can buy and i can use it over there

[Tigrezno]

 dude, you're crazy, you were almost hitting your eye while heating your cigarette :-/

[Toymangenie]

If you are silly enought to part with your money - you will lose it.
I have been waiting since July 2009 and despite about 10 emails from LaserDIY promising delivery and listening to excuse after excuse - still nothing.
I am out of pocket $85 and still waiting.
They sent out an email to at least 40 people using the same excuses (They forgot to use the BCC option) - so its not just me.
BEWARE.  FRAUD.

[LaserDIY]

We are sorry you had a bad experience. LaserDIY is a legitmate company that provides laser diodes and modules. Email us laserDIY [at] gmail.com and we will look into your order. It is likely your order was shipped but lost in the mail. When this happens, we check with the shipping company to see whether the order was delivered. If it was not delivered we will reship the order. We will not know the order was not recieved unless we are emailed. So, if you have a question or comment, email us: laserdiy [at] gmail.com

[Toymangenie]

I have forwarded all 8 emails from me to you regarding non-delivery.
I am hoping someone follows up on this.

Thanks Kipkay for kicking someone's butt!

[Kipkay]

The LaserDIY site is not a scam or a fraud!

I have been personally in touch with the website administrator and owner. He does admit to having problems with a number of shipments and actually fired a few customer service reps who totally dropped the ball on orders. Due to the popularity of this project he was completely overwhelmed with orders.

If you have specific issues that have not been resolved, email me directly at [e-mail].

[ducktapeman55]

has anyone actually accomplished this laser lighter and have proof either video or picture that it works?

[fire666]

i wish i could make that thing, i get tired of  just using a regular light on my smokes.

[twocvbloke]

You should combine this with your previous project, the Blu-Ray Laser Phaser.... :D

Imagine that, pointing a phaser at something and igniting or burning it, just like on Star Trek!!! :P

[EXPLOSION333]

I'm not quite sure i get how the resistor is put into this circuit, in the picture it appears to be shorting the two terminals that go to the diode,and i'm sure that isn't it.  If somebody could please clarify, i would appreciate it.  i dont want to screw up the circuit and risk ruining the diode.

Thanks!

[hoppe_groda]

Will it work with this laser?
http://modwerx.com/shop/405nm-violet-burning-bluray-laser-diode-phr803t-p-16.html

[hyudryu]

St. samples is wrong. It will work. You just need to press it into an housing and attach colimating lenses. You can also make a driver yourself but you can buy one on laserpointerforums.com

[St.samples]

This wouldnt work. It needs to be a blue laser diode 'module.' A module includes the diode and things like a heat sink and optics.

I would be more inclined to go with the following product. I believe it is a higher quality product and it take some assembly out of the equation. Although I'm not sure if it would fit in a bic anymore. It could easily be put into something else.

You would still need 3v input power, a 4-4.3 ohm resistor and a switch.

http://cgi.ebay.com/405nm-150mw-Blue-Laser-Diode-Module-Kit-Blue-ray-violet_W0QQitemZ110507207613QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19babe2bbd

[St.samples]

This is cheaper.

I would be more inclined to go with the following product. I believe it is a higher quality product and it take some assembly out of the equation. Although I'm not sure if it would fit in a bic anymore. It could easily be put into something else.

You would still need 3v input power, a 4-4.3 ohm resistor and a switch.

http://cgi.ebay.com/405nm-150mw-Blue-Laser-Diode-Module-Kit-Blue-ray-violet_W0QQitemZ110507207613QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19babe2bbd

 

[matiasbuoso]

In what kind of components could i find this laser and the other parts. I will be very thankful if someone could answer my question. 

[Vulcanator]

 i think he was referring to the fact that the initial laser used for the case is cheap.

[Vulcanator]

 Also, try using a zippo instead of a bic. rig a microswitch to turn the laser on when the lid is open. 

[Kryptonite]

It has been done, it's really cool.

[Hunter O.]

Does it have to be a blue laser? I can't find any but i can find red lasers

[Dr.Bill]

I just called them @ 219-595-2737 and told them that with all the bad press they are getting over how they treat customers, with 91,000 + people signing in to see it, they ought to be worried about the word of mouth that will get around about them in the electronics community.

How bout it guys? Ya wanna bury a company?

MUhahahaha!

[Vulcanator]

 put it in a zippo. wire a microswitch to the lid so when it opens the laser turns on

[skidude28]

Cheapy?!? With the links you provided, this project would cost over $80! You could buy one for cheaper!

[stretchuar]

I can't believe people are having a discussion on grammar and the various forms of IT when a guy has managed to get a burning laser into a BIC lighter - how cool is that! I am searching around for ideas for incorporating into a 21st century Swiss army knife and this just may have to go in there.

Good on yer KipKay!

[justin.jackson]

 this is soooo B.A. I would worry about putting the damn thing in my pocket though and burning a hole in my er, "stuff"

[fireblast_1212]

This is so cool! But sadly, i can't make one. I have absolutely NO skills in this but I've always wanted to be able to. If anyone here would like to sell me one, just name the price!

[amr9000]

 alright honestly, this is an Awesome instructable, for the price, I'm not sure how it's cheapy compared to just using the dollar lighter, but definitely worth the awesomeness. also not sure how it's cheapy, I guess in comparison to a premade one..
anyhow, when I have a little money to spend this would be pretty cool..

[jakiebigfoot]

do they actually work that good?
 

[Fishpail]

Has anyone made this successfully yet?  Because I'm too afraid to do it myself due to the large number of comments on the customer service of laserdiy.com.
I'm aware that the real pre-made deal can cost upwards of $200 USD.
I just want to know if it's realistically possible for the general population.

[thingygoboom]

Yup, I'm using this instead on a homemade laser cutter I'm building, not in a lighter though. I'd be worried for my life if i was smoking. :P

[Fishpail]

Well by general population I mean those who are not experienced (or amateur; like someone if your family who can help you i guess) electricians.
Maybe I'll just go buy the blue laser pointer off ebay instead; since I can't build it.. :/

[judelizowski]

hmm, how much would this cost in total?


great instructible!

[thingygoboom]

25 for the driver
??50?? for the laser diode
and then a small amount for the rest

[Johnny Thunder]

The 12v Batter is actually A23, if I'm not mistaken, not 123. It was hard enough when I knew I was looking for an Energizer A23, so I thought it would help to add that.
Anyway, I already have removed the on-board momentary switch, so I don't know how viable it would be to use needle-nose pliers, but I do know that if you use tweezers, and grip the very bottom of it, then rock it slowly, gently, and especially carefully, left and right, you might be able to snap it off without damaging anything (except said switch that you would probably discard). That's how I removed it, and I don't think anything is damaged. --Yet.

Good luck!

[djr6789]

now all you need to do is make your cat into a laser lol XD

[Iridium7]

 this looks like a job for....DUCT TAPE!

[djr6789]

this looks like a better job for....... SUPER GLUE!

[Iridium7]

 NOOOOO! DON'T hurt da KITTEH! I will FIND YOU!!!!

[xproplayer]

so instead of ripping the flesh out of the cat its ok to rip all of its hair out?

[djr6789]

no its olny ok to feed it to the homeless

[Iridium7]

 NO!!! Do you know how much karma that would give you?

[octopuscabbage]

it might negativly affect your karma as much as killing grandma sparkles does.

[djr6789]

Then i could make my own show called "my name is djr6789" lol and the only way to cross kipkays cat off my list is to rebuild it from the homless peoples poop XD

[Evilthingamabober]

Tape captions onto the cat and make it a real life lolcat!

[Thundertydus]

Who cares?

It adds +14 Cold Resistance!

[flio191]

might make you a xenotech expert too xD

[xproplayer]

WTF DOES THAT MEAN!

[Iridium7]

 try wikipedia sometime. I am done with this conversation.

[xproplayer]

?????

[xproplayer]

how much does this cost and is it worth it if u have anti pyro parents?

[d2j5]

just tell them its a super flashlight.......really....really super flashlight lol. maybe you could put it inside a different case not a lighter if they are really aganst fire.

[rimetightmike169]

this doesnt help much! needs more pics and explained better!

[rimetightmike169]

your better off watching the videos on youtube!

[bronedog]

?Hi kipay its me bronedog from youtube i subd you on here and on ypoutuber i need to make me one of those too =)

[Tpp4]

I am very upset with KIPKAY. I have sent emails asking for help with this project, due to bad wiring diagrams. Also the seller he tells you to use is not reputable. They have poor customer service and do not sell you what you think you bought. I am now out $90, and still no laser.

[w00t ._.]

 dude thats awesome that thing can come in handy

[Iridium7]

 what are the colors for the resistor?

[mastercreator]

this guy is on youtube and he has his own website. Matter of fact he's my friend on youtube yall check him out more details on youtube

[SepplBeppl]

How do I get off the onboard switch on the driver? Pls help me...

[Nemweb]

Very cool!

[Deadl0ck]

I wouldn't exactly call 75 dollars of laser parts cheap... but I guess that's just me, shame cos I really like this build... I just don't have that kind of money to spend.

[whiteboyninja]

go to hightechdealz.com the have a blueray laserburner diode for about $18. you can get the little driver from a $3 5mw red lase diode that comes in its housing on the site to.

[jimmytvf]

at a long time will get rentable make it, the batteries last more than a fill of gas, and if you use Kip's trick of the 12v battery hack, you will have this old-school lighter forever

[TheTeslaWarrior]

the laser isnt cheap... the lighter is. hes making somthing expensive look cheap at first glance hence "cheapy" instead of "cheap"

[Deadl0ck]

Ahhh. My apologies then. Diffrence between cheapy and cheap was lost in translation. English isn't my native tongue. Cheers for clearing that up!

[TheTeslaWarrior]

no problem, your not the only one. its pretty damn easy to confuse even if english is your native tongue.

[andrewbaker]

you both realize to buy a blue laser pre assembled is around $200 right

[TheTeslaWarrior]

and if you want 5 mw its cheap for pre asembled to http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28901

[andrewbaker]

thats the blue equivalent of a gas station laser 

[TheTeslaWarrior]

i can find a blu-ray diode for $17... if you make it you can make it cheap (just orderd a diode gona put it into a sharpy :D)

[snyperwolf]

looking for a wire diagram for the set up here cant my laser to work also will the laser work with a 12v battery?

[jacko16_730]

dude have you made it work with 12 volts????????????????????????

[your dog]

you can't do that (while you can, but) it will kill the diode

here is a way to make your own circuit. (it's very noobish though)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1011559/diy_how_to_make_a_laser_diode_driver_circuit/

[jacko16_730]

im tryin to juice this thing up......................... it would be a big help if somone already knew what to do................................... what exactly will i have to replace.......................... what can i keep.............??????????? how can i stop the diode from burning out?????? any ideas.........???????????

[SdaMaster]

is there any way to get a cheaper laser that will still work

[sashacryotank]

I'm Guessing a DVD Burner laser will work

[chickens.do.have.lips]

Hey Kipkay! Just commenting to say how I'm a big fan of your videos! I just have one question: If you wanted to burn something with this (say, a piece of paper), would it have to be colored black like your flashlight hack? Another thing: would you mind (if it's not much trouble, of course) if you put up a wiring diagram for this? I can see the picture for step six, but the wires are a bit jumbled. Thank you!

[One.]

this is awesome! i must try it! where do you get these ideas???

[The Lightning Stalker]

The cat was expecting a laser to come out of it.

[rodonn]

Just tell me you didn't set fire to the cat...

[The Lightning Stalker]

meow

[ross353]

Well we all know how you make a cat go woof...... Pour gas on it and light it *WOOF*

[jarjar761]

u moron we all should send u to jail

[WillTheRescue]

You're going to send a guy to jail for making a joke?

[TheTeslaWarrior]

mabye hes the only one who isnt a moron and every one else should go to jail

[phil galati]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME !!!!!! Was this ment as a joke? I would like to buy some of those AA batteries that have all those button batteries stacked up in them. Lets see, if you get about, lets say. 20 button batteries stacked up inside a AA cell. That adds up to 30 volts!!! Nice AA battery

[lasermaster3531]

this is a 12 volt battery for things like car remotes and emergency beacons in avalanches. not a i.5 volt AA or AAA or even A battery.

[dmhjah]

Is this laser powerful enough to etch on glass or brass or maybe even plexi-glass?

[TheTeslaWarrior]

no, not by far

[dmhjah]

Is there anything you could etch with it?

[TheTeslaWarrior]

black plastic

[sn0manX]

THIS ISNT CHEEP!!!! THE DIODE COSTS $60

[toogers]

the lighter is cheap, not the lazor.

[TheTeslaWarrior]

thank you, yes

[jimmytvf]

i think that this is the most successful project you made (leaving away all your burglar-advicers) in a while. It's practic and easy to carry, and more efficient than a butane one. Nice job Kip. I don't want to be a nitpick, but maybe a system of turning on or off would be great, maybe using the "spark roulette" as a switch or put a small switch on the open end of the lighter, because this can burn your pants out or even worse :p i hope that you see my van on facebook

[Tycoon5000]

Are there schematics for this at all?

[milamber]

hay kipkay nice ible and grate concept any way can u use the diode frrom your laser flash light hack for this ? just trying 2 save cash also can u use this to melt solder as a laser soldering device?

[threewheela]

damn thats cool

[jtpurdom]

I hate to be the guy to rain on everyone parade, but this is VERY dangerous. I work with lasers everyday and am responsible for ensuring my companies laser safety compliance with CDRH... Out of curiosity I worked the numbers here. The laser included here (150mW, 21.7dBm, @405nm) is 441 times the legal eye safe limit (3.9 microWatts, Table 1 IEC 60825-1). You will not get a second chance to look at this... even its reflections will cook the liquid in your eyes. Now, that being said, this laser will diverge fairly quickly and will become safe in a meter or so... you could still blind somebody standing next to you!!! Possession of this device is dangerous and borders on illegal. Selling this device violates several federal laws and regulations... don't get caught selling it across state lines! As we say in the industry, "This laser is dangerous, please cover your remaining eye". You have been warned.

[St0rmcr0vv]

I'd have to agree with this... This is a great instructable and a pretty cool idea but I wouldn't point this thing anywhere near my face not to mention, put in my pocket, leave lying around on the counter, put in my glove box... nuff said. Might make it a bit more responsible and safe to put a safety switch or "keyturn" so's it doesn't start a fire in your pocket. With all due respect to the author and other posters, I dont think that there can be enough warnings about this. Be safe everyone :)

[starsarebent]

Also, he does have a warning up there. Great instructable, KipKay! Keep 'em coming.

[starsarebent]

Okay, if it violates "federal law" why would it matter if you sold it across state lines? Federal would pretty much cover it. Also, who said KipKay is in the states. Also, did you know it's perfectly legal to own a flame thrower in all 50 states? Oh, I'll bet you didn't. I'm sure some research into this "terribly pressing matter" could shed some light. First of all, all of the parts can be purchased by anyone over the age of 18 in any state. There's a hole in your "illegal" story. Furthermore, KipKay has some amazing videos and DIY's. You could learn something from him if you put your safety gloves down for one second.. I've been watching his stuff for years, and he's even been featured on TV shows, if I'm not mistaken. Calm down, man. It's neat to see different uses for every day objects. I'm sure we won't have an outbreak of blinded eyes around the world because of this instructable. Sheesh.

[jtpurdom]

Whatever. I just put a warning up. You can believe what you want. If you would like to verify it for yourself or learn what kind of damage can be done, look up IEC 60825-1 and 21 CFR 1040.10. The US has some of the least strict laws on laser safety so what does it matter if Kipkay is in the States?. Flame throwers are legal? Cool. Who cares? Your comparing apples to oranges here. It is immediately obvious that a flame thrower is dangerous. Not so here. Most people do not know that a +21dBm CW blue laser can blind them in seconds. As far as legality, yes... all the parts are legal to buy. This is because the manufacturer assumes that they will be put to use in a safe manner consistent with worldwide regulations. This however, is not the intended use of the laser. This instructable is illegal simply because it does not have the safety features required of a laser of its class. I don't doubt that kipkay can do some pretty cool things. Kipkay is probably a pretty smart person. These regulations are here not to stop kipkay from making this laser, but to stop him from giving it to people like you who have no idea what it is they have in they're hands. It is people like you who will go out and hurt themselves and possible innocent bystanders. I hope you make this and blind yourself. Good riddance... but its that innocent person next to you that worries me. So please, before you flap your gums next time please think about what your about to say and please, for all our sakes, form some logically correct and intelligent arguments.

[ntrider1991]

please next time just ask poster of instructable to add bright colorful warning and give them information that can be used to inform others like all the information you posted into your comments

thank you

[Meroki]

wear IR shielding glasses. done.

[--scare--]

yay !! you want to protect people and then you turn on them... nice!!

anybody who knows how to build this thing understands that this is dangerous because there is a firecracker being lit by this thingy on the cover page... don't take us for dumb freaks that can't understand anything please!!! we all know how to build this but it's nice to have someone experienced that tried it and did not fail or hurt himself badly...

I hate regulations... stupid people have all the fun, then they regulate and then nobody can have fun no more... when i find something cool it gets outlawd'...

you said...:
These regulations are here not to stop kipkay from making this laser, but to stop him from giving it to people like you who have no idea what it is they have in they're hands. It is people like you who will go out and hurt themselves and possible innocent bystanders. I hope you make this and blind yourself. Good riddance...
what?? now you want us to get blind???
OK!!! we're dumb anyways... shheeeeesh...

that's a well formed logically correct and intelligent argument...lol.

[flamekiller]

Wow, "I hope you make this and blind yourself." Makes your whole argument really credible!

[--scare--]

like flamekiller said...!! . . . . . . . . nanana all you take... nanana stand by it... nanana famous darwin... regulations... nana from now on i will call you mr. Partycrasher Mac Nofunatall

[jtpurdom]

If thats all you take away from this then more power to you. As for the comment... I stand by it. We need people around to remind us why Darwin is so famous.

[Ghostlyfigures]

Jtpurdon is absolutely correct in his warning by the way. Your eye focuses the light around you right into your retinas. So if you take a laser of this class (laser = extremely focused beam) then you're focusing a focused beam onto your retinas which will burn it out in seconds. I know you know what your doing but it only takes a few seconds to do permanent damage - accidents happen even when you think your safe, even the class III lasers can burn your eyes out - and as for cats - you'll burn their eyes out from across the room!!!

[flamekiller]

I never said he was wrong about the warning - he's quite correct. I just said that essentially wishing harm on someone made his whole point null and void, which it does.

[Ghostlyfigures]

I was responding to his first comment and the ignorance that followed. It is very true that telling someone to go get hurt after telling them to be safe is quite oxymoronic ( "be safely dangerous").

[usb key]

thats a waste of butane. and its a danger to let it out like that. open the valve outside when its almost empty.

[RAMPAGEwasKIA]

How do you remove the momentary switch?

[Darter76]

wat does the 4.3 ohm resistor do that the driver circuit does not?

[Darter76]

some other guy did this but with a zippo like lighter

[wikkiman]

Try using overstock sellers or eBay for parts. It will be no more than $40 - $50 if you find good deals.

[IncrediblyCondensedBlackMatter]

IM SORRY? DID HE SAY "CHEAPY"? THE WHOLE THING COSTS OVER $75!

[jmurockstar]

compare to the Wicked Lasers blue lasers
http://www.wickedlasers.com/lasers/SONAR_II_Burner-73-24.html

$75 vs $2000

[NotOurKing]

I didn't look to closely, I thought it said creepy. :)

[J@50n]

how a lighter costs like 1.50 and to get the components yourself a laser at walmart costs like 5.00

[macwhiz]

those $5.00 lasers are red lasers that can not harm anything they are cruddy

[cdousley]

wow some people know nothing. (Referring to starburst552)

[J@50n]

 Im sorry i dont get out much lol!

[YoungPyro19]

He must be a rich nerd.

[prmars]

considering the fact that most handheld blue lasers on the market cost $1500-2500, yeah, it is "cheapy"

[TheTeslaWarrior]

you confuse blue (473nm blue) with blu-ray (405nm acualy violet) a blu-ray is signifagantly cheaper than a blue laser
blu-ray: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28901
blue: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28901

[stuffman366]

http://laserdiy.com/bluelaserpointers.aspx

[HardCoreHacker]

This isnt cheap! its 60 bucks for the laser part!!!!

[cdousley]

cheap? maybe for lazers

[dabombmaker]

not to be rude but its lasers its an acronym: light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation. just letting you no XD

[bjornacorn]

Know

[cdousley]

i know most of the time i say laser

[bloodgain]

Also not to be rude, but "its" is possessive -- "it's" is the contraction for "it is". Also, I think you meant "know", not "no".

[ac1D]

Could you explain this further?
Would help some ppl(including me, a frenchy who is learning english)

[Sorcerer1089]

Possessives of pronouns never get the apostrophe. his hers its ours etc.

[sibrow]

It's = contraction of it is: It's starting to rain.
It's = contraction of it has: It's been a long time.

Its =The possessive form of it: The airline canceled its early flight to New York.

So its means belonging to it. It's means it is.

[gannon12raiders]

Technically, there is no contraction for "it has." Slang has deemed "it's" to mean this as well, but technically speaking it doesn't.

[NotOurKing]

Definitions are determined by usage, therefor sidrow is correct. This is how language evolves. One example of this in recent history is the word ain't. You may have heard the saying "Ain't ain't a word cause it ain't in the dictionary," this saying is no longer correct because it is now in the dictionary. Some other examples would be bitter and sour, these words traded definitions simply because people use them that way. Word origins and evolution are fun, though with all the weird words, spelling can be a pain in the but. :)

[IncrediblyCondensedBlackMatter]

why are you having a grammatical discussion on this poor man's instructable? isnt that rather rude? anyway, this is interesting.... are prices listed up here?

[dangeross25]

bravo

[cdousley]

wow look what a discusun i started with bad grammer

[Lt. Duct Tape]

+Win

[GhettoStuff]

he calls it cheapy cause it appears as the cheapy lighters you get at the convient stores.

[Deus]

$59,99 dollars for a blue laser isn't exactly cheapy if you ask me :S

[Mtalus]

You might want to look into the posts using diodes from dvd burners.

[BradCush]

you should make a website that sells the things you make cause a lot of the things are cool but the things needed to make are not easy to get.

[nonickname]

Something about posting a picture of lighting what appears to be an illegal firework seems to be a bad idea.. But anyway, nice 'ible. If $50+ is too much then go rip apart a 360 :D

[woody558]

Those aren't illegal.

[gannon12raiders]

Looks like a smoke bomb to me.

[unominame]

me too or a discolored cherry bomb

[captian america]

Dude, I live up in minnesota and we pop off those things all the time. You can get them at any store. Just because they may be illeagle where you are dosn't mean that there against the law through out the universe.

[nonickname]

Oh sorry, it looked like a now illegal firework. Now I look again, it's probably just a smoke bomb.

[noahh]

They make a lot of fireworks to look like something cooler and less wimpy. Jumping Jacks look almost identical to a small string of firecrackers, but they are lamer. I see that quite often at fireworks stands, but before someone goes on a tangent, I only buy legal fireworks and set them off in legal areas taking all precautions to stay safe.

[Iridium7]

what is the range of this?

[raykholo]

wouldnt say "cheapy" but it is pretty nice work...

[dmhjah]

Where would you get a heatsink for this wiring if you used a different housing? Thanks David

[CybergothiChe]

This is wiki-wiki-wicked man, yeah boiiiii! Funk yeah! how long do the batteries last? what can you set on fire/singe with this laser? will putting a more powerful laser in it make it cool or just uncomfortably bulky?

[dabombmaker]

if it isn't quite lined up will it be ok to let it burn its way out?

[Rishnai]

I reckon so. Do it in small steps and don't inhale the fumes. I would not be suprised if you could light the lighter itself on fire this way, though, so give it plenty of time to cool between blasts.

[SmexyNess]

wouldn't you not want to light a cigarette? cause its like right at his eye lol

[theXmaker]

People... Why Do you ALL Go Buy things from the Internet!!!! (why not just go to any local store?!!!! I bet that it stills cheaper than ebay or any Internet seller!!!!) (BTW I'm From Lebanon... And I Think Electronic Components Here Seem To Be SOOOOOOOOO CHEAPER Than Anywhere Else:D!!!!!!!!)

[bighead5454]

because not everyting is at a local store

[JoelDude]

There is pherhaps one super electronic store per 100 mile radius, and if they dont have it,m you're screwed, or you have to deal with what they have. some towns dont have anythign better than radioshack, and they charge 3$ for a 1K mcd led, crazy!

[chuck...]

Ok, I didn't have the Laser diode in my junk box but I found this substitute... Anyone got a bigger lighter? chuck...

[Daddio_UK]

Great as always, but didn't like the idea of hitting metal against metal to release gas, lol.

[bradleyscottpage]

Kipkay is going to take over the world with all his laser hacks. Nice.

[dfc849]

Yet another creative and simple project from Kipkay -- Good work, and keep it up! !

[Mtalus]

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[GrumpyOldGoat]

In the Twenties through the Sixties of the last century, ALL children were subjected to second hand smoke. They all died. That includes your parents, therefore, you do not exist. Please take the time to think BEFORE you spout politically correct claptrap that has been proven false by the UN and reality. Now, have a nice day.

[C0untryboy7239]

"fabrication"..... what is an lbles? Furthermore, only people are evil. A person can pick up a pair of scissors and stab someone with them. Were the scissors evil? Also about smoking, if a person smells second hand smoke and doesn't leave, it's their own fault if something happens to their lungs. I personally think this idea has many uses and I don't see the person saying "use this to light your cigarettes". Good job on the engineering and technique. I will be building one soon because it's a great way to light my grill from a little further back, my fireplace and several other things that could potentially be dangerous lighting as close as I would have to get with a normal Bic. I have one question/suggestion. Is there a way to put a safety switch on the laser lighter so that it won't burn a hole in my pocket should it get in a jam while I'm working on something?

[rabbitkillrun]

"if a person smells second hand smoke and doesn't leave, it's their own fault if something happens to their lungs." That logic is stupid. But i agree with the whole anti-Mtalus's comment thing...

[C0untryboy7239]

Rabbit, I'm sorry, but that's called "common sense". It's like this, if you know a building is on fire, you leave the building as quickly as possible because you don't want to be burned. If you stay in the building you're just stupid. If you're unable to leave (which would not be the case with second hand smoke) then it's the fault of someone else that you got burned. If people are smoking in a house or building and you go there, smell the smoke and don't leave, you're doing it to yourself..... staying there because you have rights is the stupid logic. Smokers have rights too ya know.

[rabbitkillrun]

sounds like smokers have more rights that way, as that means non-smokers should avoid most bars etc... i had an example, but i forgot it/cba debating this...

[Demon_Darkchild]

actually all bars nowadays (at least in Ohio) are prohibited from smoking. So not only are the rights of smokers being taken away, but the bar owners' rights as well. as always, smoking is a personal choice. its not evil, its not good, and it's a stupid reason to judge people. It has no effect on their personality. Also, a bar is what it is. People go there to drink and smoke. If you don't like it then don't go.

[rabbitkillrun]

In Scotland (and England too now (oh they made such a fuss)) you cannot smoke in a "public place", such as a pub/bar/whatever... but this is getting off topic...

[Demon_Darkchild]

i'm not sure exactly what your problem is, but you need to get over it. just because he made a laser does not mean that he hates all blind people and does not appreciate his eyeballs ( he did leave a warning, you know). Also, as long as the creator of this instructible is over 18 he can smoke if he likes to. Secondhand smoke will not kill you unless you live in it. In conclusion, you are over-reacting and have absorbed a few too many STAND commercials and the creator of this instructible has probably always wanted to light a cigarette with a lightsaber.

[Mtalus]

I am the person waiting for my light saber. When DVD burners first came out I rushed down to the repair shop to call dibbs on the first dead unit so I could cobble up something a little less anemic. I may have been a little stressed that day, I'll switch to decaf soon, I promise. It's just that caffeine is all I have left since I quit...ummm...smoking. Re-reading my post surprises me. If anything I meant it more as an old geezer wagging his finger at the whipper snappers while winking, but that isn't at all clear. As I look around my shop I only have a key switch on one of my lasers. Some equipment has exposed line voltage sections, and oh my, a pair of scissors. Good thing my running days are over.

[Demon_Darkchild]

see, that's my only complaint with the internet. sarcasm and body language does not translate. lol Thank you for clearing that up. it just gets hard sometimes to tell when people are joking. And how can i stay angry at a fellow Star Wars fan? See ya.

[btop]

Roll a fat one.

[Mtalus]

I drained a few homebrews instead of blazin a fattie. Best advice this week.

[Tycoon5000]

Where does one get these parts for this step? I'd definitely like to learn how to do this. Schematics would also be cool to have.

[frogsaver]

is there a way to make this cheaper? It's really cool, but kind of expensive.

[lost2010]

have that dremil

[twhaley]

Wow! I did it! this thing works great! OWE MY EYE!!!!!!!

[faisca53]

Do you have the circuit diagram for the laser driver? many thaks

[TOCO]

Where was your vid on brink this week? I recorded it to see your video and woke up the next day to be disappointed.

[TOCO]

I dont think that cheapy is the right word for this instructable! I priced everything out to see how much it would cost me and i came up with $92 without shipping. darn, I was really hopping that I could finally put one of your instrucables to use other than entertainment.

[cdousley]

can i use the blue ray laser from ebay off your website

[cdousley]

could i use a computer cd drive/burner

[funwithfire93]

ya cheap this prodject for the laser stuff will run you 85 bucks on laser diy

[dabombmaker]

Lol btw i do the same thing when taking things apart KEEP IT ALL you never no when you will be making a electric motor powered lighter that goes thru flint fast or summit like that :D

[draftvader]

This thing would work wonders in the camping market and the prices are a premium across the board there. Have you ever tried to light a stove in a gale? But for lighting cigarettes I think your video demonstrates the dangers adequately. I wouldn't have wanted to be the person having their cigarette lit :/ But 10/10 for cool.

[dabombmaker]

omg dude you're my freaking hero. is this your job caus eif not you really need to get a web master to hook you up with your own kipstructables.com or something like that! p.s i no quite a few hippies that have what i call butanephobia that would almost kill for this you really need to start marketing your ideas.

[ERCCRE123]

maybe you should rearrange the title to "Cheapy Lighter Laser Burner"

[ERCCRE123]

instead of "Cheapy laser Lighter Burner" because the lighter is ccheap, the laser is not

[Pie Ninja]

Damnit Kipkay, stop being so freaking cool!

[bustedit]

I know, right?! I think i am going to make a simple 2 step Instructable : "How to feel ignorant & inferior - Step 1: Look at one of Kipkay's Instructables. Step 2: Look in the mirror and feel sorry for yourself."

[madhops0620]

you should post that

[btop]

Laserdiy seem to have high prices, wouldnt http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/150mW-405nm-Blue-Violet-Laser-Diode-Module-with-Driver_W0QQitemZ280331370331QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item41450d3f5b&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177#ebayphotohosting work better?

[MACKattacksnipe]

Wow its like Eco friendly should be thrown in when you buy a prius any way Good Job Kip Kay

[iambrad]

lol. that is the funniest comment I've seen all day.

[Chromatica]

agreed

[crazyromanian]

nice idea of mounting the stuff in a lighter but Idk how buying the diode and driver from the posted links is CHEAP...when the diode costs $60 and the driver is $25 (didn't even look at the other links)??? wish I had money like that to spare

[Goodhart]

Well, if you price a laser unit, say one at Edmund's Scientific When they carried the higher powered lasers, years ago, the cheapest one was nearly $200 _{of course, that was a table top model}.

[Kipkay]

I was kind going for the "cheap" as in the $1 lighter.

[crazyromanian]

yeah, really I can;t wait until these diodes become as cheap as the white LED's. I mean white/blue LED's used to be expensive, and now their pretty dam cheap.

[Berserk87]

its cheaper than the alternative $200+ "burning laser" lights.

[ac1D]

Don't forget you can get a cheaper 200mw burner at less than $40

[crazyromanian]

yeah if and only if u live somewhere other than the US. "United States Customers Only: due to new regulations enforced by the US FDA and PayPal, orders of >5mW lasers units shipped to the United States are no longer accepted. Orders that were previously accepted and unshipped will be cancelled and refunded to customers. This affects United States orders only. Important FDA Warning for all >5mW Lasers: FDA advices all customers that these lasers may be purchased only if you are NOT a citizen of the United States and you are NOT currently living in the United States."

[w0ot!]

Wow. Aren't we lucky to be living in the "greatest nation on earth!" I feel so free...

[madhops0620]

yeah I saw that too. I saw ac1D's comment on went on DX and was about to order that 200 mw red laser, but then I saw that the FDA has laws against that. Apparently, the FDA has has regulations on that for a while, but PayPal just started cracking down on that, and they won't allow you to use PayPal to buy lasers now. How the hell can laser pointers be under the FDA's jurisdiction? Lasers don't fall under the category of food or drugs damn FDA

[ac1D]

Hehe. The funny thing about DX is that you can make the order using another address, then dropship it at your address. I could do it for ya, if you want.

[madhops0620]

will that get it past customs?

[crazyromanian]

NIce and thx, but right now I actually don't feel like it, u know what I mean. I'm working on other stuff and this project only caught my attention cuz I saw "cheap", unfortunately it was just another disappointing misnomer (or misunderstanding or whatever). maybe later.

[wupme]

Those are hacked ones wich will be destroyed pretty fast because the diode aint made for that much power, and they are not cooled good.

[ac1D]

o'rly?
I got a focussable 200mw red burner operating with two cr2, wich is not hacked/modded/potmoded/ anything else, good quality. Burn anything, even skin even if other say it dosnt.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11315~r.24783668 (fell free to remove the r.247... part if you want)

[Chromatica]

aint aint a word

[kwazai]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/AINT

[Chromatica]

What Now

[kwazai]

antidisestablishmentarianism?

[ArvindTheNinja]

It's a word here in Texas.

[wupme]

Nice to know that you dont got any other problems.

[Jayefuu]

Thanks for adding the warning. Rating changed :)

[domesticatedviking]

"As with any laser, don't point it at yourself or any living thing". Right, like the dude with the cigarette in his mouth. Irresponsible.

[madhops0620]

haha, did you notice it was shining on his face as he said that?

[domesticatedviking]

Yeah, I noticed. Had this been done for irony's sake, it would have been funny as hell. But it wasn't. And it wasn't.

[madhops0620]

I still think it was pretty funny haha

[Biopyro]

Stop being so health and safety. If you really don't want to get hurt, don't build it, or even better, don't smoke.

[uberdum05]

True.

[iambrad]

win. smoking is pointless in my opinion. there's supposedly tons of peer pressure to smoke, and i've never encountered it. not sure why people think its cool, with all the health education in school.

[Goodhart]

Many are imitating parents before they have a responsible head on their shoulders and then get hooked on the nicotine and the habit of it. It took me a year to quit, but it was worth the effort for sure.

[guyfrom7up]

But isn't it the responsibility for one human to look out for another? Smoking, sure, it's bad for you, not the big thing here. If this (I'm not 100% about this laser, I don't know the power) laser were to accidently hit a shiny surface (may it be a mirror, car, cd, light, or anything in a room) and bounce the light towards your eyes, you would be instantly blinded. No going back. That's the last thing you would ever see. But hey, look at the bright side. It's be much harder to build dangerous projects like this!

[Full Frontal Graphic]

No, you did not say "look on the bright side" LOL

[Biopyro]

"But isn't it the responsibility for one human to look out for another?" No. If you don't understand lasers which burn things might damage your eyes, you shouldn't be attempting this project. If it is the responsibility of one human to look out for others, why do we continue to allow people to smoke and drink, when we know both are incredibly damaging to both the individual and society?

[Goodhart]

Think of what guyfrom7up is saying: he is not making it your responsibility to do things for other but to inform. If one does not know of any impending dangers in a project, how can they possibly come to the conclusion that it should not be done? Now, I am going outside in a thunderstorm and running with scissors, want to join me? ;-p

[Alexizupinhea]

Seriously Biopyro, if you're even CONSIDERING building this, I suggest you read up on laser safety. This isn't like a cheap $1 laser pointer, those are around 2mW. Anything under 5mW is safe and legal to buy and sell without a license in the US. However, this laser is around 100mW!! It WILL burn your eye within milliseconds if it gets a direct hit. It is irreversable by any type of surgery. You will at LEAST have a blind spot, and if held for more than a second or two, you will risk even going BLIND.

[cdousley]

if you cant use a laser dont build i know how powerful they

[Alexizupinhea]

and yeah, I've built SEVERAL. Highest power I built is around 270mW 650nm. But I do have 1W IR TEC cooled module, 2W 808nm IR diodes and 25x 2-10W Various Wavelength diodes. It doesn't matter how many you build or how many you buy. Being safe is being safe. I don't see why so many of you get so DEFENSIVE about the idea of having a simple disclaimer so a kid (like I was) understands straight off that this is dangerous. They can build it (like I did) but it's just best they understand the true and serious danger behind what they're making. And in case you're wondering, I'm 16, and I started the hobby around 3-4yrs. ago.

[Alexizupinhea]

Don't be such a child. Everyone can "use" a laser. It's about whether or not you can use it carefully and responsibly. Even big hobby users like me don't always wear protection goggles when working with optics and things. However, sometimes (and it DOES happen), even though we are so used to dealing with them, weird angle reflections can and DO happen. And as a result, people get blind spots (if it's very short exposure) or much much worse. Here is a guy who got a blind spot from a 60mW laser (was a fraction of a second exposure), this one is around 100-150mW. http://laserpointerforums.com/f53/so-i-went-optometrist-today-41880.html
It happens to the best of us.

[Biopyro]

I'm not considering building it, nor am I disputing that it is dangerous. I am just saying that I think the crys of outrage that there are no warnings about it are stupid. Health and safety paranoia is (one of the several things) ruining western society.

[Goodhart]

*chuckle* No, Warnings and health consciousness is not ruining this country, it is the laws that prohibit exploratory behavior. In other words, we should be allowed to make our own decisions about what to do once we understand any dangers involved (_{this is known as a warning}) ;-)

[Alexizupinhea]

"In other words, we should be allowed to make our own decisions about what to do once we understand any dangers involved (this is known as a warning) ;-) " Couldn't've said it any better myself... :)

[Goodhart]

Ty :-)

[Alexizupinhea]

I understand that. But there are a surprisingly high # of people out in the world who wouldn't think "this thing can a burn a match, i wonder what the consequences would be if I shine it in my eye". Thus, it is best to at least just put in one sentence on the home page saying: WARNING: This project involves the use of Class III lasers. It WILL cause SERIOUS and PERMANENT eye damage if ever shot directly in the eye, even for fractions of a second.

[guyfrom7up]

there are plenty of organizations that teach the hazards of drinking and smoking

[guyfrom7up]

btw, this is pretty much the equivilent of welding without welding goggles/face protection.

[theXmaker]

Even Thought.. Lighting A Cigarette With That Laser Isn't a Smart Idea!!! To Light A Cigarette With A Standard Lighter Is Much Faster And Easier To Light It With This Laser!!!!!.. Btw Great Instructable.. (I'm wondering to know if handeling such type of a laser is restricted by the governoment!!) And Always Remember.. Store In A SAFE AND "HARD TO REACH" PLACE... And Do NOT LET THE CHILDREN KNOW ANYTHING OF IT (not even see it!) !!!!!!!!!

[Goodhart]

it is easier and faster except if it is very windy outside ;-)

I am NOT advocating this use, I was a smoker and am glad I quit, but there is some logic in using a laser to heat something depending on environmental conditions.

[theXmaker]

You Can Use Zippo Lighters!! ;) It's Great That You Quit Smoking... Even Thought That The People Who Can Quit Smoking Are Rare!!!.. Btw.. Ok.. This Laser Is Very Good and Great For Some Uses... But If YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT!!!! Because Really It's TOO DANGEROUS!!!.. You Can't Know How It's Laser Beam Would Go!!!!!

[Goodhart]

Yes, which is why the one "suggestion someone posted here is a good idea (one would have to insert the cig, into the mechanism to light it, and no beam would exit the thing).

[szechuan53]

BLUE LAZOR FTW!

[Killer~SafeCracker]

This is awsome man.

[danlab]

How long does a set of batteries last wit this thing?

[Kipkay]

Not very long but this isn't something you use everyday. More of a novelty item. Either way you can get 8 of those button cells from one ENERGIZER 123 12v battery.

[oskay]

Kip--
Neat project. But I'd strongly urge you to add a *very* strongly worded warning to the first and last steps about laser safety. This kind of laser can cause permanent damage to eyesight in less than a second. Not necessarily total blindness, but certainly blind (insensitive) spots.

This is particularly important in this case because a lighter is something that's typically held close to the face, pointed upwards... you know, towards the eyes.

-Windell

[Kipkay]

Done. Thanks.

[Goodhart]

Yeah, I just saw reference to this on the DIY site two days ago.

[goldenbacon]

what site?

[Goodhart]

Here: http://dailydiy.com/2009/08/01/cheapy-laser-lighter-burner/

[Berserk87]

The laser Kipkay uses is a 150mW laser diode.

A product with the same power costs $500.

http://www.wickedlasers.com/lasers/Elite_Series-69-0.html

[linkreincarnate]

Don't post links to Wicked Lasers they are rip off artists. They seriously overcharge. (And you wont hear about it on their forums cause they edit user posts that are critical of them) Use Skylasers instead. Fantastic lasers with no cut corners. They have more power than you could possibly need and are well built. Wicked lasers are often shipped underpowered because laser power meters are expensive and not many people have a means of testing the output of their laser.

[Jayefuu]

Pretty dangerous and silly to use a laser that close to your eyes. Is it really worth looking cool if afterwards you can't see? In my opinion you should have a massive bold warning at the start... don't use this to light cigarettes.

[lemonie]

That is not a good way to light a cigarette with a laser, but I guess you have to point the beam into the dark tobacco - the outer paper might not take? Obvious precaution: wear suitable safety glasses...

L

[Jayefuu]

Perhaps a suitable modification would be to include a tube the diameter of a cigarette so that no light from the laser would escape as you lit the cigarette. You'd have to insert the cigarette into the tube.

[lemonie]

I had thoughts like that, bit like this L

[HarveyH44]

If you were concerned about your own health, you wouldn't be smoking anyway...

[Pie Ninja]

You win.

[ParaPhrasedProductions]

lol

[Kryptonite]

Any specifics on time for lighting / burning a match, a black balloon or a fuse? Say, more or less than 5 seconds?

[brunoip]

Also you can burn your eyes, can't you?

[Kryptonite]

You can with all lasers.

[INVADER SCOOGE]

Cool instructable. Any idea where I can get the components and stuff for cheap....really cheap, like 20 to 30 dollar range?

[Kryptonite]

I don't think you can.

[CameronSS]

Was this done in conjunction with Rog8811, who posted a similar project in late February?

[Kryptonite]

Ahh, there close but not quite the same, and KipKay also says it's the first BIC style laser lighter.

[El Mano]

What does the driver do in the laser setup?

[pcacesam]

The driver controls the current flow keeping the laser from drawing to much thus making it last longer

[guyfrom7up]

Not bad, but also make note (depending on the mW of your laser diode) that if pointed directly in the eye, this will BLIND you in a fraction of a second. Sun glasses do nothing, so don't even get a false sense of security. About a year ago I was going to build a powerful 200mW version, but was scared of blinding myself so I never did it. If you must do this, you can pick up some laser goggles that are made for the specific wavelength of said diode. They cost about 40 dollars

[wupme]

When i read just the title in the RSS feed i knew it could only be Kipkay ;)

[Chromatica]

The GOD of hacks Strikes again

[jeff-o]

Heh, nice voiceover! Have you considered a career in infomercials? ;) But, a really cool idea!

[ac1D]

KIPKAY! Your back! cool!

[isaac!]

sick!

[wenpherd]

very cool!

[Stew2]

Wow! That is cool! Er... I mean hot... Cool but hot? Nice ible!

[qballcat]

1 i love your hacks 2 you should put a manly laser in a NES zapper, THAT would be cool

[thirith]

This is a bit random but from where do you obtain your smoke bombs? Nice 'ible by the way!

[Kipkay]

I bought them at a fireworks stand in a Wal-Mart parking lot a few days before the 4th of July. Didn't get this one finished in time. :(

[Marble of Doom]

Really cool!