Cutting down or eliminating dairy, but still want something to top pumpkin pie, crazy pancakes or simply to dip strawberries in? Coconut milk makes just as thick and rich whipped cream as whipping cream, if not more! And the only different in preparation is to remember to put the coconut milk in the fridge long enough to chill.
An additional plus is that whipped coconut cream does not break down the way dairy does. This whipped cream can be covered and stored for up to a few days without separation taking place. That alone makes it a better option in my book!
Ingredients
- 1 Can Coconut Milk (14 ounces)
- 2 Tbs Powdered Sugar
- 1/2 tsp Vanilla
- 1 tsp Matcha or
- 1 Tbs Cocoa Powder or
- 2 Tbs Pomegranate juice
- Set can of coconut milk and mixing bowl in the fridge overnight
- Set beaters in freezer for a few minutes before you begin
- Open can and remove all the solid coconut cream (leaving about 1/4 can of coconut water)
- Mix cream in chilled bowl, with chilled beaters until fluffy (3 minutes or so)
- Mix in powdered sugar and/or any other flavoring
- Use right away or cover and keep in the refrigerator for up to 3 days



































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But I also think the Chaokoh brand is also thinner. They may be using more water in extraction process now days because I've used it in the past for other things and seem to remember that the fatty layer was much more solid and grease-like (like the picture shown of the Thai Kitchen in the bowl), whereas now days that layer is soft and pillowy. I think I will try the Thai Kitchen next time.
If you try it, post an update...thanks!
Oh well, my wife said she'd pick me up some full-fat coconut milk next time she's there, so I'll have to give it another try. I really want to try it on waffles, since we just recently got a waffle maker.
There is significant anecdotal and emerging scientific evidence that coconut fat may in fact be beneficial, although you wouldn't want to drink a crapload of it every day, ha ha :) It still has calories, and too much of anything fatty is probably hard on the system, no matter where it comes from.
Think of the far-lower heart disease (and other cardiac complications) rates they have in South Asia and India (aside from those areas adopting a western diet); I mean, they eat TONS of coconut/coconut oil in India and pretty much all of SE Asia, and they are mostly much better off, heart-wise, than Americans, right?
Just my $.02. I'm not a doctor or nutritionist, just a health-minded recovering fattie who knows a lot of what we're told is complete crapola :)
It is easy, there are a ton of studies about how heart disease is directly attributed to animal fat intake. Harvard has a page that extensively describes why you should limit animal fat intake, referencing a whole bunch of those studies.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-full-story/
Or how about try reading the China Study, you might have a different perspective on health after. And if you're actually open to a new perspective I highly recommend taking the time to watch this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4
The Harvard link makes the standard assertion that saturated fats are bad but doesn't link to any studies that demonstrate that.
The China Study was observational/correlational and unable to make any determination about the causes of any observed effects. Were disease rates higher because of saturated fat consumption, animal protein consumption, refined carbohydrate consumption, lifestyle differences? It can't say.
The YouTube video--at least for the 10 minutes I watched--was pure animal rights, zero dietary science. If there's any reference to studies implicating saturated fats, give me a timestamp and I'll check it out.
"Forks Over Knives" is more vegetarian propaganda like T. Colin Campbell's book about the China Study and has been effectively debunked by Denise Minger.
I looked at all of the references in the Harvard paper and found none that refer to saturated fats. Did I miss something?
My response was more directed at your 'there's nothing wrong with animal fat' comment. I do agree that not all saturated fats are bad fats, thus me looking up a coconut whipped cream recipe. Ingesting the fat found in animals on the other hand has been linked to increase cancer and disease rates in humans. I'm not arguing about saturated fats here- in fact it's the polyunsaturated fats that these studies claim are detrimental-
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/29/5/890.abstract
http://www.ajcn.org/content/63/5/741.short
And here's another site that references studies that disprove your 'animal fat is good fat' perspective- http://www.cancerproject.org/survival/cancer_facts/meat.php (as with the Harvard site, you scroll down to where the studies are referenced)
As for the video, I never said it had specific references to studies, which seems to be the only information you'll deign to look at. I said if you're actually open to a new perspective and maybe someone else's opinion it's an interesting speech. You turned it off after a few minutes, but I threw it out there in hopes of a more open mind receiving it.
And if you're so enthralled with your need for strict scientific and factual evidence over this (rather than common sense about consuming high processed, hormone filled slaughtered corpses), then why is your chief reference in your response to a girl with a health blog and a bachelors degree not even in nutrition? Oh wait, she's writing a book, I forgot you have to be a highly credited individual to do that. But she doesn't eat meat, so I guess you can't reference her for everything.
My point is that saturated fats, both animal and vegetable in origin, have been unfairly and unscientifically labeled as unhealthy. And none of the studies referenced on any of these pages directly demonstrate that. There *may* be other issues with meat consumption that cause higher rates of certain diseases in meat eaters than in vegetarians, but that has not been proven to be caused by saturated fat.
Regarding vegetarianism and the video, I'm open minded, but I've already considered all of the issues mentioned in the first 10 minutes of the video and didn't find them convincing. What I do find convincing is that homo sapiens evolved over millions of years on a diet consisting of both meat and plants. I also happen to really enjoy eating meat--to the point that I'm highly disinclined to stop doing so.
I don't know about "high processed, hormone filled slaughtered corpses". My freezer is full right now with a cow that my neighbor raised on his land without hormones or antibiotics. Yes, it's a slaughtered corpse, but it lived a decent life, protected from predators, and was well fed and well treated. If it weren't for it's meat, it wouldn't have lived at all.
Regarding Denise Minger, if you can find flaws with her arguments, I'd like to hear them. The fact that's she's merely a "girl with a health blog" or "writing a book" doesn't mean that her points are automatically invalid.
Yes, I'm "enthralled with [my] need for strict scientific and factual evidence". I'm a rational being and proudly so.
I raised the issue of peer-reviewed research because there are so many people and organizations beating the "artery-clogging saturated fat" drum, but there's no research to back up those claims. Do you really think it's unreasonable for me to require actual scientific evidence that X is bad for me before I start eliminating it from my diet?
Your own coconut whipped cream recipe has plenty of saturated fat. Are you not curious whether there's evidence that it's unhealthy?
The reason I criticized you about Denise was that it seemed like you were badgering people for 'studies, studies, studies', but then directly reference someone who's just spouting opinion (not that I don't agree with a lot of what she says, but no matter how rational her arguments she's not a scientist with peer reviewed journals). My issue was that when it comes to something that you don't believe in, you need scientific fact to even consider the possibility of changing your mindset, but when it comes to what you already believe you only need reference a girl with her bachelors degree and a blog, which is what she is.
As for the saturated fats deal, I'm really not saying that saturated fats are bad, I guess I didn't make that clear before, sorry about that. I was responding to your comment that animal fats are not bad, and those studies I sent do discuss fat in animals and how it has been shown to be detrimental to human health. Yes and the other ones discuss the cooking process, since humans cannot eat raw meat like other predators, those studies I thought were also relevant in a discussion about how eating meat can be bad for you. I really do appreciate that there are others with different opinions then me, believe me I used to love eating meat (I was practically raised on McDonalds), and like I said before I'm all for people having free choice as long as they are truly educated and don't hide from the truth behind what they're consuming. But the truth is, everytime you go out to eat, unless you know specifically where a place is sourcing it's animals, there is a strong likelihood you are consuming what was a sick and abused animal. But if you get all of your meat from your neighbor and have seen what happens to these animals and are still comfortable with noshing down that steak at night then great for you, your better than most.
Humans are omnivores, the science is clear on this. Even vegetarians accept it. See:
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm
Which was written by "... a vegetarian and currently Scientific Advisor to The American Anti-Vivisection Society. He is an anatomist and a primatologist."
I eat a primal/paleo diet and dairy isn't a large part of it. But dairy animals are generally well-treated because malnourished/diseased/abused animals don't produce a lot of milk.
Denise Minger isn't conducting research, so dismissing her because her blog isn't peer-reviewed doesn't make sense. She's not "just spouting opinion", she's citing facts that are backed by research or not even in dispute.
The assertion that "humans cannot eat raw meat" is just silly. Of course we can. It's delicious and nutritious. Sushi and tartare are the usual examples, but a rare steak is essentially raw except for the surface.
The assertion that "there is a strong likelihood you are consuming what was a sick and abused animal" is also wrong. Anyone who has ever raised livestock knows that sick animals are prohibited from being sold/slaughtered for human consumption. I won't argue the abuse issue since the definition of abuse is too broad to be useful--e.g., PETA thinks captivity constitutes abuse.
I'm all for people knowing their food better and thinking about things like humane treatment and avoiding antibiotics and hormones.
I'm sure there have been instances of abuse in the meat industry, I just don't think they're widespread or conducive to profitability.
I'm not a vegetarian because I believe that meat is natural, nutritious, and delicious. I might be able to survive on a vegetarian diet, but I prefer to thrive on an omnivorous diet.
lauralee077 joined November 6, presumably because she was so mad at Sparge. Again, only a few comments, only on this topic and no Instructables.
While I'm sure you are both well intentioned (and maybe a little cranky) now that you are both here, I hope you create and share some projects with the community rather than just jumping in to use this forum to argue. Seriously. It's a way more productive way to share your point of view.
I really don't get why some people get so mad that other people want to eat more fruits and vegetables. Seems like a poor use of energy. I don't go post all over bacon recipes...there are a million better ways to spend my time.
But now that you joined the site, you should add something too!
I didn't come here because I was angry about coconut whipped cream...I came here because I love coconut and because my paleo/primal diet limits dairy. My first posting here was in defense of the saturated fat in this recipe. My second posting was in defense of saturated animal fat because someone else claimed that it was bad.
I couldn't care less what anyone else eats, or what anyone else thinks I should eat. I'm not posting here to attack vegetarians, but to respond to what I perceive as unwarranted attack on omnivores, primarily via repetition of the "animal fat is bad" myth. If someone states something as fact that isn't supported by science, don't be surprised when people call them on it.
Also, just because you're a vegetarian doesn't mean that anyone who eats meat is out to get you.
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