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Coilgun Handgun

Step 6Coilgun Research and General Information

Coilgun Research and General Information
Shoot cans, tins, or whatever your heart desires.(With the exception of others, unless they deserve it, not really). I am not responsible for you being stupid with this, If made right you could seriously injure or Kill someone with this.

Experiment with a different amount of capacitors to maximize the Muzzle Energy.

Equations:

-Potential Energy=(1/2)(capacitance in uF/1,000,000)(voltage in V)2
-Kinetic Energy= (1/2)(mass in g/1,000)(velocity in m/s)2

Equations for Capacitors in Parallel
-Capacitance(C) total=(C of 1st capacitor)+(C of 2nd Capacitor)+...
-Voltage(V)max= Lowest rated Voltage

Equations for Capacitors in Series
-1/(Capacitance(C) total)=1/(C of 1st capacitor)+1/(C of 2nd Capacitor)+...
-Voltage(V) max=(V of 1st capacitor)+(V of 2nd Capacitor)+...

-Power=(V)(I)

I-Current
V-Voltage
C-Capacitance

IDEAS POSTED HERE MAY BE OUT OF DATE(4/28/08)

Key Things to Know:
I would recommend reading "all" of the following as a good understanding of system maximization is key to build a worthy gun. Some Very general characteristics to help you create and maximize one are as follows.

A Few Variables

(These statements assume all other variables are unchanged and are as simply put as possible)
(Maximization is reached at the greatest efficiency)

(These are SUPER Generalized statements and are Approximate (in reality there are many, many more factors). But these statements do provide a simpler understanding of the system.)

-The coil:

-The larger the wire diameter and the fewer layers it has the more Capacitance is needed to maximize it.
-The smaller the wire diameter and the more layers it has the less Capacitacne is needed to maximize it.
-The shorter a coil is, a shorter pulse time is needed for maximization, Therefore more layers for shorter coils is required for maximization resulting in a lower maximizing capacitance and a faster pulse time.
-The longer a coil is, a longer pulse time is needed for maximization, Therefore fewer layers for longer coils is required for maximization resulting in a higher maximizing capacitance and a slower pulse time.
-18-22 guage magnetic wire and 30mm Length seems to be a common place in most guns.

Capacitance:

(Discharge time constant(discharge to 37%) is determined by the product of capacitance and resistance) t=RC(for a simple RC circuit)

-A larger Capacitance has a longer pulse time and therefore affects the projectile a longer amount of time and so longer or heavier projectiles are needed for maximization.
-A smaller Capacitance has a shorter pulse time and therefore affects the projectile a shorter amount of time and so shorter or lighter projectiles are needed for maximization.
-The pulse time also relates to the length of the coil, a longer pulse time will be nessesary for a longer coil and a shorter pulse time will be necessary for a shorter coil.

...Take a Breath...

Voltage:

-There is a point where Higher voltage will taper off the output energy of the gun through power dissipated through heat. Power loss=I2*R (where I is current and R is system resistance)
-As far as I know an Increase in Voltage provides an increase in the output of the coil gun, to a point. That point is reached when the dV/dT (Change in voltage over change in Time) is significant enough to produce a large amount of eddy currents.
-Through research and experimentation it seems the best voltage range lies in the range of 200V to 800V, reason being 200V is a low enough voltage to where the wire needed to discharge the same amount of energy is significantly larger, which reduces the current density and increases the coil cost and size. The Upper limit of 800V is due to the higher dV/dT which results in large eddy current losses, experiments with 900V capacitor banks show significant (ie the firing of non-metallic projectiles via eddy currents) eddy current losses.
-In general I recommend using 50J per stage for 200V banks and 200J per stage for 900V.
(These are vague at best, but the limits produce better results)

Projectile:

-Ferromagnetic (objects which can be attracted by a magnet but not perminantly magnetized) material is what your projectile should be made of. I use large galvinized steel nails cut to size. Usually the nails will flip through the air, but if you attach a straw on the back the projectile will be stabilized (The longer the projectile the longer the stabilizing straw must be)
-Greatest effeciency according to projectile length can be reach with experimentation, but in general a projectile the length of the coil and as snug fitting as possible will yield close to maximized projectile deminsions.
-Smaller nails, screws, or even sling shot ammo can be used if power tools are unaccessable to you, but you will not get much effeciency with them, expecially spherical projectiles.

System Resistance:

I am still in the process of simplifing this as many factors in coilgun performance relates to resistance.

-Resistance is ultimately the defining aspect of a coilguns maximization. Many think that less resistance is always better, but this is not always the case. The fact that resistance is indirectly related to current (I(current)=V/R) and a greater current produces a greater magnetic field; this points to less resistance and more current for a greater projectile acceleration. Although this is true, resistance also plays a direct role in pulse time, which determines the amount of time the capacitor takes to discharge, and the amount of time the projectile is under acceleration.
-In conclusion one can say the higher the resistance, the longer the pulse time and lower the ampere peak; the lower the resistance the shorter the pulse time and higher the amperage peak.
-Also, with very low resistance ringing occurs in the system due to the coils inductance, resulting in the possible need for a protection diode reverse and parallel to the coil, resulting in a much longer pulse time and current leakage through the diode.(see topic below)
-will be continued...

Protection Diode:

-Many coilguns use a protection diode to prevent back emf(high reverse voltage that results from the coils induction) and to prevent system and capacitor failure. I did research with and without diode protection and the results explain the higher efficiency which my coils have been operating at compared to other much more advanced multistage guns. Experimentation showed an average of around 1/4 velocity loss with a reverse diode compared to no diode protection. As of now no damage has been done to the capacitors or any circuits due to back emf. I will continue to do testing.

I may be wrong on some, or all, of this. : )

USE THE SIMULATOR ON THE FIRST PAGE FOR YOUR APPLICATION

Disclaimer
I take no responsibility for your actions. If you shoot, shock, or otherwise injure yourself or others, Your
On Your Own.

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24 comments
Oct 7, 2011. 4:14 PMtinker234 says:
thought could i magneticly suspend the bullet so that way there is no friction on the projectile
Dec 8, 2011. 12:55 AMjalvarado-3 says:
I got a roll of magnetic tape, could you place that above the straw so it draws the metal projectile up a little, effectively reducing its weight. I dont know, havent built one yet, just wondering
Jul 11, 2009. 8:50 AMDefaultio says:
I have 16 camera flash capacitors and an at least 8 layer coil and when I fire it it doesnt really do much more than just plop out of the barrel. It doesnt shoot anything any harder than a rubber band could. Ive tried to move the coil around, but this is as powerful as i could get. Any ideas why?
Jan 24, 2011. 8:04 AMblueeyesseto says:
silly as it sounds make shore the positive is at the front or bak i cant remeber but one of them works better and put sticky tape inbetween the layers of the coil and try a diffrent projectile like a stell bb
Jul 11, 2009. 4:59 PMDefaultio says:
The coil is 5.1cm long, the projectiles are 3.2cm long and about 1.5mm thick, and I'm using a 12V 30A relay.
Jan 23, 2011. 2:29 PMseltzer10 says:
hey i found a great way to cheat and get a pretty good coil pre-made, a solenoid pump valve, i am using one that is used in car washer pumps. its about 1.5" long and has about a .5" thick coil around a half inch i/d . i threw a brass tube in it as the barrel and it can shoot a center puch across the shop!,
im using a 400 volt 330 uf cap. i pulled out of a busted antec power supply with a single charger curcuit running off 1.5v.

Q: does using a brass barrel decrease its power?

If anybody has any sugestions for my simple set up please tell me!
Jan 24, 2011. 8:02 AMblueeyesseto says:
i found if u use any no conductive metal like brass then it shouldn,t effect it too much as for simple setup get a disposable camera get the flash bord out and just solder 2 wires on to both the negative and positive of the capacitor so thats total 4 wires hook 2 of those wires up to your 400v cap and then the other positive to your coil at the front and then hook the remaining negative wire to a switch then another wire hooking the switch to the bak of your coil i recomend putting two switches in as a safty but i have very dangerous curciuts
Mar 20, 2010. 5:25 PMArticas says:
could i use a pizeo ignitor instead of bouil the circut
they get crazy voltages (21000v) but i dunno how much current
Mar 10, 2010. 9:03 AMnot_so_WISEMAN says:
 I like Lost Energy drink too.... lol
Oct 25, 2009. 5:07 PMFuingurth says:

SO MUCH MATH! anywho, love this ible!

May 13, 2009. 6:10 PMphyscocreator says:
I love this instructable, ive done a little with coil guns but not a whole lot but ive been wanting to build a multi stage for a long time and i think im gonna try it with this system. have to figure out the timing system whigh will be a massive pain in the you know what but i would like to try it. Great instructable though, easy to read and follow.
Mar 12, 2009. 2:15 PMNightReaper says:
First post on this site, also joined this site because of this Instructable (or destructable as the case may be ). anyhoo, I know your trying to get us to learn this stuff for ourselves, or at least thats how it seems, could you possibly put a chart together to show how many chargers per battery for each type of battery? If its too much work than just disregard this post, and thank you for making such an in-depth tutorial
Nov 24, 2007. 9:34 AMtxoof says:
Very cool reuse of disposable cameras. I used a similar system to create a spark for a potato canon. The spark was generated by removing the flash and replacing it with a home built spark plug (metal point over a carriage bolt). I had the same problem with the switches I was using welding together. I eventually replaced the switch with a 20 amp house breaker. This isn't exactly ideal for your situation as a circuit breaker does not allow fast firing, but you won't lose as much energy in the discharge and it's just about impossible to weld a 20 amp circuit breaker together without killing yourself.
Oct 15, 2008. 2:06 PMjunits15 says:
if i buy a 10 amp relay do u think it will weld together?
Feb 22, 2009. 12:22 PMnarpas says:
no
Nov 24, 2008. 1:48 PMtxoof says:
Only one way to find out :) Actually, it probably will work just fine. Next time you have a crappy Radio-Shack switch, take it apart and check out how it's built. You'll find some very small parts made out of very cheap metal with very low melting points. Household circuit breakers are made out of much more robust stuff. After all, they're designed to NOT cause fires.
Dec 17, 2007. 1:51 AMtulip riot says:
The circuit is an extremely effective ignition system for a potato gun; I too use it. To see it used in a coil gun however, is an awesome adaptation for the same charging circuit.
Nov 24, 2008. 12:15 PMCoffee bean says:
how large of a spark gap do u get.
Nov 24, 2008. 1:47 PMtxoof says:
You can get a pretty impressive gap; over a 1 CM is possible with fresh batteries and a circuit that you haven't beaten all to hell. I built mine by using a pvc cleanout plug. I drilled out a hole in the side, threaded in the wire I was using and then put a carriage bolt with two nuts into the square divot (head up). I filled the divot with epoxy to hold the bolt up and insulate the wires. One wire is wrapped around the bolt with the exposed end smooshed between the nuts. The other end you are free to monkey with and get whatever gap you want. I tried making spark point out of an aluminum can trimmed to a fine point; you can bend the can to get a variety of distances out of the bolt. In the end, the most reliable and hottest spark was derived from using just one or two wires from a twisted wire barely touching the bolt. I found this setup to be much more reliable and robust than the piezio starter from a grill. Once wet, or coated in burned plastics (the junk that's in hairspray) the piezio starters start to quickly break down. They are really designed for dry operation.
Nov 24, 2008. 2:22 PMCoffee bean says:
interesting. would it work with a spark plug you think.
Nov 24, 2008. 5:58 PMCoffee bean says:
i though so. maybe a stun gun but that would take tons of insulation as well.
Nov 24, 2008. 6:15 PMtxoof says:
Uhhh. Stun guns are pretty complex. They have several voltage modes depending on what they're attached to. Also, I imagine you can fsck your self up pretty good with a stun gun. Best to stick with the camera flash. You can get a heap of them for free from any photo processor and the worst thing you're going to do is burn the crap out of your fingers. I suppose if you have a pacemaker, or a damaged heart you could probably disrupt it if you did something really dumb with the capacitor...
Nov 25, 2008. 12:07 PMCoffee bean says:
yep agreed
Nov 24, 2008. 3:10 PMtxoof says:
You could make it work with a spark plug, but you'd need a SERIOUS voltage source. Spark plugs work at REALLY high voltages. The cap. in the disposable camera circuit was never made for that kind of duty. I doubt you'd even get close to getting a spark across that circuit.

You'd also need to make sure everything was really well insulated. Spark plug wires are mostly rubber for a reason...

Check out this article if you want more information on how plugs work:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/ignition-system2.htm
Apr 21, 2008. 11:00 PM-Aj- says:
a better starter for a potato cannon would be a bbq starter. one of the pezo electric ones. no electronics required then
Nov 24, 2008. 4:24 PMtulip riot says:
those pezio electric starters are worthless. the spark from this circuit will ignite nearly anything
Nov 24, 2008. 6:13 PMtxoof says:
Indeed. The piezo starters are designed to work in relatively dry environments that don't produce all sorts of weird crap like burning hairspray.
Nov 25, 2008. 2:17 PMpalella says:
i made a potato cannon with one of the bbq spark plugs thats now crapped up with hairspray residue but it still works fine after probably more than 100 uses
Nov 23, 2008. 1:51 PMsquirt8500 says:
could i use a pvc or abs plastic instead of a burger king straw or will it be too thick?
Nov 23, 2008. 9:00 PMsquirt8500 says:
do you think that i could somehow shave down the plastic so it wasnt as thick and what diameter should i get it as
Nov 23, 2008. 1:52 PMsquirt8500 says:
i mean for the barrel

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