Compost Tumbler

I'd been looking at these fancy schmancy compost tumblers online as I'd gotten tired of turning my compost pile. There were 2 big detractions from these prepackaged tumblers; 1- too expensive for my penny pinching ways, and 2- they all sat way up in the air making it quite difficult to rake and shovel material in and out.

This looks to solve those two issues.

Step 1: Materials

1 55 Gallon Barrel (preferably one whose previous inhabitant was not poisonous)
1 3 Ft. x 18 In. Board
4 Bricks
4 NON Pivoting Wheels
2 Pivot Hinges
2 3 In. Pin Locks

Tools

Drill
Cutting Implement (I used a miter saw)

Comments

[gorozco]

Just made myself one today I use a moving dolly as the base, small door in mine to keep the integrity of the barrel, I found a place in my town that recycles barrels from big companies they are food grade (mine comes from a pop maker) so is easy to clean instead of the ones with soaps or other chemicals will post pictures once I finish the holes for ventilation. Thanks for the idea

[jahbic]

this also helps to do compost cleanly, the only time I did it, had a problem with mice cause of the remaning food I used

[mystrwizard]

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[sangretoro]

About how powerful do you think the gear motor should be in order to be able to rotate a heavy drum slowly (safely) but strongly?

[drpaula99]

I am building this compost bin today using 2 skate boards mounted on a plastic pallet. I AM EXCITED. So far so good. Thanks for all the great additional ideas (for me, needed). Got the barrel from a craigslist ad ($10) and the skateboards were free from a trash can after a yard sale. I am sure my neighbors will appreciate looking at this rather than the ugly black round hard plastic one. I am going to put a flexible plastic pipe wedged from opposite "sides" for a stirrer.
THANKS again.

[LancePenney]

I see it's been almost five years since you've posted this instructable. I'm wondering if you've had any problems with the wheels rusting and siezing up on you? Great job by the way.

[weedsl1951]

You can go to a car wash and pick up the barrels for "free". But best to call first. I picked up 6 barrels last year for free.

[rmalen1]

My barrels came from a car wash and had sodium hydroxide in them. How do you neutralize sodium hydroxide and ensure that it doesn't contaminate your compost and ultimately kill the plants your using the compost on?

[Brynhildur]

Empty out as much as you can. Wash it out with plenty of water (wear gloves and goggles and long sleeves) let it go down the drain. Sodium hydroxide is basically a drain cleaner and it is easily soluble in water. Be careful not to get splashed. The water may heat up a bit.

[papabear108]

I know you have already found a solution to your problem but I have a suggestion. I own a pressure washing company and use sodium hydroxide to restore wood. I use vinegar to neutralize the product and then I wash it with a car wash solution. It has worked for me. I am not sure if that is enough acid to neutralize for the purpose of compost. I would suggest lime in the compost mixture but again I am learning how to compost for my yard so I may be wayyy off the mark. I hope this helps.

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[wushuair]

Use an acid. While I'd suggest HCl (Hydrochloric Acid), it's not really at your local CVS. Acetic acid could work if enough of it is used, that is, vinegar. Acid + Base (NaOH) will result in a relatively harmless salt and water, depending on your conjugate/neutralizing agent.

[rmalen1]

I used a gallon of apple cider vinegar. Does that sound like enough?

[wushuair]

If you poured it in and then coated the sides with it to neutralize the NaOH, I think that should be plenty. While I can't seem to balance the Chem eqn, this is what I suspect:

C2H4O2+NaOH -> Na2CO3 + H2O.

Na2CO3 is sodium carbonate which is an irritant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_carbonate. Otherwise, it should be OK. Just wash everything out with water afterward.

[rmalen1]

Oh yes. I had blancing the alittle trouble balancing the equation myself? LOL! Thank You for the info. I gave it a good vinegar bath and a water rinse.

[ryckmans_t]

vinegar (=diluted acetic acid) neutralisation has this equation:

CH3CO2H + NaOH --> CH3CO2-Na + H2O

wash your drum with water a couple of times, then a couple of times with vinegar.

NaOH is corrosive but will get neutralized by your compost eventually, so i is not going to kill your plants, unless you have a lot of it. You can get a cheap pH testing kit from any garden center if you want to check.

best Thomas

[guynoir]

I love the design of this. I just built mine last week. I filled it up about half way and found that the compost did not turn but simply slid down the interior of the plastic barrel. (perhaps this is because I have an abundance of pine needles in my compost?) To fix this I drilled some holes and screwed a few bolts in so that they stick up inside the barrel about a half inch. (I feared that using screws might result in a nasty gash in my hand while trying to scoop out the compost.) This gave the compost something to "catch" on while turning and now the compost flips over nicely.

[gardenlvr]

How have the wheels held up? my concern is the weight of the barrel on such a small surface? When the barrel gets heavy will it still roll? I am checking these out to make one of my own and I am trying to avoid mistakes in the construction process. I must say your design is one of the simplest :0)

[kyriaap]

made one myself as well. just made some enhancements. got some more aeration holes on the side and included a computerfan pointed to the holes on the long side of the barrel. since we are in the middle of the winter right now, no heat has been produced unfortunately :( don't worry about the flammable sign though, i burned the last bits of car brake fluid out and washed the barrel afterwards.

[garywpalmer]

I finished my composter this weekend with a few modifications.  I used roller skate wheels ($5 pair of skates from Goodwill) on a 1 1/2" PVC pipe stand.  It's working great!  I've had composting material in for 3 days and it's already getting warm.  Of course it doesn't hurt that I live in Phoenix, Arizona, land of mild winters.

[dense]

What are the dimensions (length-width) of your pvc frame? How tall are the legs?

[confuscated]

How did you affix the wheels to the PVC pipe in a manner that it supports the composter's weight when full? Looks like a great design!

[garywpalmer]

They are monted with 1/4" bolts and nuts in such a way that they are hieght adjustable. I have since moved them out closer to the edges of the barrel where the plastic is much thicker. See the close up for bolt an nut arrangement. Thanks for the comments. It's been working great.

[wushuair]

Does the type of barrel matter? I would suspect that certain types of plastic would be prone to leach VOCs or BPA, and that metal ones would not only be harder to work with but also may rust? Any tips/Comments/concerns?

[gemtree]

I like these ideas for the kind of barrels that have no unscrew lid on top. But I searched the internet til I found food barrels that had a screw off lid and roll them on the ground to 'stir'. I bought a few of the nonscrew top barrels and will try an end loader. I think having two or three would keep them from getting too full and discharging from the end when I open it. I have found that even if it is pretty full, I can still stand the screw top barrel up so am thinking I can get away from building a roller. What can I say? I am lazy!

[confuscated]

Thank you for posting this. It's exactly what I was looking for. One question though: about how much would you say that the composter weighs when full?

[whejas]

I picked up one of these barrels from work. When it was full of corn syrup, it weighed 600 lbs. Compost isn't as dense, but I would plan on it weighing at least 400 lbs when full for support purposes.

[jfaurschou]

I built mine on your design and it's working very well. I made the door longer and narrower, Perfect size for my mower bag to fit up against to dump, as well as a good size for a shovel/rake to get stuff out. I keep a small metal tub about the size of a flower pot in the kitchen for kitchen scraps and so forth, and the whole family is getting into this as my boys (7 and 9) love being the ones to empty the tub into the bin each day, and they fight over whose turn it is to roll it. Thanks for the idea!

[depotdevoid]

Nice one!  I picked up a barrel today and plan on building this later on in the week.  Thanks for the great instructable!

[glindow]

I have been getting my barrels from a local Dairy.  They cost 3 bucks but that's not a big concern.  Now I just need to find the right wheels.

[Rahdzhillaxxx]

What would be some types of "waste" to avoid, and what kinds of additives are best? I plan to use grass clippings and veggie trimmings from the kitchen.

[nearyjm64]

check out this website about what you can and shouldn't put in your composter.  http://www.epa.gov/waste/conserve/rrr/composting/index.htm

[Dave G]

I did a very similar project but I used a spindle instead.  Works okay, but I put too many holes for aeration, which I need to probably fill in now.  You can see mine at www.goodrumfamily.com/compost_tumbler/index.html

[Dave G]

messed up that link.... it should be  www.thegoodrumfamily.com/compost_tumbler

[DanYHKim]

This is very nice. Using external wheels simplifies the design greatly, and I'll use the recommended 4" wheels instead of smaller ones. I came upon four plastic barrels that were being discarded, so I can afford to experiment, but I'd like to have two working composters, one to have finishing compost, and one for starting compost. That way, I won't be putting fresh kitchen peelings into compost that's about to be decanted. I will probably not fill the barrel more than six inches, to keep it from becoming too heavy to rotate easily. In addition, I hope to leave the side open, so I won't have to devise a door. Still thinking about how to remove the finished compost without hurting myself. Having the assembly close to the ground will probably help a lot, though.

[koubis]

That is actually better design what you have just described. You do not need much for aeration, leaving just couple of smaller holes will be enough. The aeration happens as you turn the drum. Side opening is better as  you can easily remove the finnished compost when it is done. You simply lift the drum on the other side and "pour it out". So just get smart clips for the opening or even make door on the lid for getting material in. I will be designing mine this way during spring and will post the pictures later. I love the neat design of the external wheels as well. I will be using 200l steel drum.

[drawe21]

If you leave the side open you will spill out the contents every time you turn it.

[garywpalmer]

This is great! Just last week I happened to drive by a business and they had the same blue barrels outside with a sign, "Barrels $5 each". I'm going to build this but I'm also going to check some thrift stores for a couple of cheap skate boards. I think the wide skate board wheels would be excellent for this because of the trucks the wheels are mounted, the ball bearings and the wide width. Thanks for the idea!

[jamiefunk]

What about placing the door on the end of the barrel instead of on the side? This would keep the barrel from warping around the door, and would make the whole structure more stable.

[alexholman]

I made one of almost the same design with the door on the end. What I didn't realize is that it makes filling really hard once the barrel is over 1/2 full. Stuff tries to fall out the door as you're putting it in if you can't roll the door up onto the top. To fix this, I ended propping the end of the whole structure on some cinder blocks so that the barrel was angled down at about 45 degrees. Not the best solution, but it works for now. Once this batch is done, I may try to re-engineer the wheels to better support a 45 degree angle barrel.

[minime12358]

Where Could one find a 55 gallon bin?