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Conductive Glue And Conductive Thread: Make an LED Display and Fabric Circuit That Rolls Up.

Conductive Glue And Conductive Thread: Make an LED Display and Fabric Circuit That Rolls Up.

Make your own conductive fabrics, thread, glue, and tape, and use them to make potentiometers, resistors, switches, LED displays and circuits.

Using conductive glue and conductive thread you can make LED displays and circuits on any flexible fabric. They can be made flexible enough to roll up (see pic2). using the techniques presented here, you can replace solder in many instances and create circuits on almost any hard or flexible surface.

This instructable is the result of some of my experiments with making conductive materials and components. While some of the techniques shown in the following steps were not used in this particular project, they may be something you will find useful for future projects that involve conductive materials.

This instructable will show you how to:


1. Make several kinds of conductive glue, paint and ink.

2. Connect LED displays and micro controllers on fabric using conductive glue and conductive thread.

3. Make magnetic glue, a flexible potentiometer, and a magnetic plug and socket

4. Make your own conductive thread and where to find conductive thread at Wal-Mart.

5. Make conductive fabric, conductive foam, and foam switches, membrane switches and pressure sensors.

6. Make a conductive glue that will glue battery packs and eliminate the battery holder.

7. Program the 18x Picaxe micro controller to display words and numbers.

 
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Step 1Make Conductive Glue, Conductive Paint, and Conductive Ink

Make Conductive Glue, Conductive Paint, and Conductive Ink
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To make your own conductive glue, you will be taking an insulator (Liquid Tape rubber or DAP Contact Cement) and turning it into an electrical conductor. This is done by the addition of carbon graphite powder which is a conductor. As the binder (LT or DAP) sets up, the carbon crystal flakes stack on each other and intertwine to make the glue conductive. The result is a flexible conductive glue that will stick well to most things.

The glass circuit doodle in pic3 below, is used to illustrate some of the ways the different glues can be used. Click on the comment squares for details.

Since my first instructable on how to make conductive glue: http://www.instructables.com/id/EYA7OBKF3JESXBI/ I have been experimenting with various conductive materials. In the process, I have come up with a few new mixes using other binders that have somewhat different characteristics than the original conductive rubber glue.

Materials


Performix (tm) liquid tape, black-Available at Wal-Mart or http://www.thetapeworks.com/liquid-tape.htm

DAP "The Original" Contact Cement- available at Wal-Mart or most hardware stores.

Carbon Graphite, fine powder- Available in larger quantities at http://www.elementalscientific.net/
Available in smaller quantities at your local hardware store. It's called lubricating graphite and comes in small tubes or bottles. The brand I used is called AGS Extra Fine Graphite, but no doubt there are other brands that will also work.

Conductive thread-Available in small spools at http://members.shaw.ca/ubik/thread/order.html
or at:
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?cPath=2_135

Clear contact cement such as Welder Contact Adhesive or Goop- available at Wal-Mart and hardware stores

Tuloul solvent- available at hardware stores

WARNING- All of these mixes involve strong solvents that evaporate into the air quickly. Do this only in a VERY WELL VENTILATED room. The fumes can be harmful. Better yet, do it outside.

All of the mixes below are best mixed in small quantities and used immediately. I have tried storing them in airtight containers but all of them seem to harden up after just a few days. Mix them in a stainless steel or glass container. You can mix them in plastic cups, but you will have to do it fast as most of them will dissolve many plastics.

Glue mix #1 Conductive Glue Using Liquid Tape (LT)
This is the original formula that uses a mix of Liquid Tape and Graphite powder. It results in a flexible conductive rubber that actually shrinks as the solvents evaporate, thus tightening it around whatever it coats. It has the lowest resistance of any of the unfibered mixes (32 ohms per inch). For details on how I measured the resistance see the original instructable (link) on this glue. I find it best for gluing wire to wire, or wire to conductive thread or conductive fabric. It can also be used to make conductive foam (see step 4).

Mix the glue 1-1/2 Graphite to 1 Liquid Tape by volume. Mix it fast in small quantities and use it fast as it tends to evaporate and skin up rather quickly.
I usually use 1/4 teaspoon as my unit of volume.

Mix #2 Conductive Paint Using Liquid Tape
This is the same mix as above with the addition of extra solvent to make it the consistancy of thick paint. Because it is a thinner mix, it has a higher resistance (60 ohms per inch) than the conductive glue. It is useful for making conductive thread and conductive fabric (see step 6). It also sticks better to glass than the thicker glue above.

Mix the paint 1-1/2 Graphite to 1 Liquid Tape to 1 Tuloul by volume.

Mix #3 Conductive Ink Using Liquid Tape
I mainly use this ink for touch up if the glue lines get too sloppy or to re-coat close together joints. Because it is so thinned out, it can have a rather high resistance in the hundreds of ohms per inch. It can also be used to create thin film high value resistors and It may be useful for high voltage applications.

Mix the ink 1-1/2 Graphite to 1 Liquid Tape to 3 Tuloul by volume.

Mix #4 Conductive Glue Using Dap Contact Cement
It turns out that most contact cements will become conductive if you add graphite. Even Elmers rubber cement has very low resistance when mixed with graphite. It is however, a raw latex rubber and I do not trust its longevity as raw rubber tends to deteriorate with time.

The DAP Contact Cement is a more industrial strength rubber and it had the lowest resistance of any of the heavy duty contact cements that I tested. While Its resistance is higher (62 ohms per inch) than the Liquid Tape glue. Its biggest advantage is that it does not shrink as much as the LT glue. It is also much more flexible than anything else I tried. This makes it ideal for coating the surface of fabrics without making them curl, to create conductive fabrics, potentiometers, resistors, switches and sockets.

Mix the DAP Contact Cement glue 1-1/2 Graphite to 1 Dap.

Mix #5 Translucent Conductive Glue.
See pic 3B. While I have so far been unable to come up with a clear conductive glue, this is as close as I have gotten. In all of the glues I have been making, I have resisted adding metal powders, or graphite fibers to increase the conductivity, as this makes the glue much more brittle or stiffer. I am trying to keep all the glues flexible as this makes for more interesting possibilities in what can be made conductive. So instead of stiff fibers such as graphite fibers or metal wire, I added flexible conductive thread. And yes, I know, you could just run the thread and skip the glue, but this has interesting artistic possiblilites.

The translucent glue is simply conductive thread that has been unraveled and chopped up into 1/4 inch long pieces. It is then mixed with a clear contact cement such as Welders or Goop. With Welders Contact Cement, I obtained a conductivity as low as 12 ohms per inch.

Mix the translucent glue 1/4 teaspoon clear contact cement with 6 to 12 inches of unraveled and chopped up conductive thread.

Mix #7 Resistor Glue
Mix the resistor glue 1/2 Graphite to 1 Dap contact cement by volume
Less than 1/2 units of graphite can result in a very high resistance or even an insulator.

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Apr 29, 2012. 4:37 PMtandava says:
Have you experimented with using an epoxy glue for added strength?
Mar 12, 2012. 8:31 AMhardlec says:
Can the be used as the tip of a capacitance stylus?

What other solvents work? Toloul/toluene is not availible to me.
Dec 18, 2011. 8:05 AMmarc_is_curious says:
great idea & tutorial - wonder if i can ...
- use e.g. Mix #1, 2 or 4 to fix components on breadboards (probably even replace soldering)
- replace the cement or liquid tape with Acrylic binders/Polymer resin emulsions such as those used by painters to create their colours - since these are very stable materials
Nov 15, 2011. 10:50 AMrmohamed1 says:
hi..cool idea..neway, whats the conductive mix made from? and what type of glue did u use?

thanks
Dec 9, 2011. 4:16 AMdgraham-2 says:
I ask because that question is clearly answered, and on THIS page lol.
Dec 9, 2011. 4:15 AMdgraham-2 says:
Did you read the entire article? :P
Apr 14, 2011. 9:04 AMweeberp says:
this is a I-sobot robot tunnig right?
is it in instructable?
Feb 17, 2011. 10:20 PMsimonett says:
Just came across this, LOVE IT. And the earlier one too. great stuff.
Aug 24, 2010. 1:53 AMJetricaKerempuh says:
very nice and informative. But, tell me, what can be used instead of liquid tape?
Jul 29, 2010. 6:33 AMimshanedulong says:
Haha. The first picture looks like a robot newspaper!
Jun 30, 2008. 4:56 PMRichard123 says:
Ah, Mikey, Mikey--the answer to my online wishes. I replaced two chips in a word processor and the work was successful but I did some damage to a flexible printed circuit. A word processor which works "great" but no space bar action is sub-par I think. A circuitwriter would be $30 and not available at all locally. Besides, the printed circuit includes black resistive lands (for some reason) and so to make a long story short your technology fits the bill. Not only that, but after reading about the liquid tape experiment, I found I could not obtain that locally, but then discovered the later essays. I had graphite and I had the Dap. So I am in business! So far I have been experimenting with acrap print circuit. I found that a looser more flowing mix is not good enough. It must be thicker than what one would desire for ease od application. Unless, the looser batch will improve with age? It is still quite pliable. But the stiffer mix makes a strong enough joint even if it is not smooth. I have not yet attempted a final repair. I will have to approimate the original resistances--even though I don't know why any resistance should be introduced to begin with. But I think I stand a chance. And the investment so far stands at $2.46 for extra graphite just so I have plenty. I cannot praise you ingenuity enough and I think your freedom from inhibiting structures bodes well for your creativity.
Jul 4, 2010. 9:25 AMKasm279 says:
When you say "word processor" do you mean something like an alphasmart?
Jul 27, 2010. 5:38 PMjunits15 says:
he is talking about a very type old computer (I think) a computer made only for word processing. Look up Wang Laboratories, they were based in Massachusetts (My hood!) and their computers could only word process. Their HQ building was in the shape of a W :3
Jul 5, 2010. 8:07 PMduckythescientist says:
Or keyboard?
Jul 5, 2010. 10:50 PMhintss says:
or typewriter? or teletype + modem? or replace modem with Altair? also, alphasmarts are awesome. but my netbook is actually the same price as one, and I'm typing this comment on it.
Jul 9, 2010. 9:58 PMKasm279 says:
$2? :D
Jul 10, 2010. 1:43 AMhintss says:
$2?!
Jul 10, 2010. 11:09 AMKasm279 says:
Yup, two AS3K's for 2$ each at a garage sale. Love the things because I can send the stuff i type on there to my Palm m515. Only thing I hate is the keyboard...
Jul 5, 2010. 3:09 PMprodo123 says:
this is fking amazing!!!!
Jun 10, 2010. 12:36 AMkcchen_00 says:
Will the conductive glue cause scratches in plastics or glass with prolonged contact? Or is the carbon graphite powder fine enough to protect against unwanted wear?
Mar 15, 2010. 2:11 AMkamaljassal says:
We still awaits your reply.

Do your paint stripper would also strips the silver ink which we do use before electrofoaming.

please revert asap.

Mar 16, 2010. 8:40 AMkamaljassal says:
one querry that makes us able Do your paint stripper would also strips the silver ink which we do use before electrofoaming
Apr 23, 2010. 1:38 PM8bit says:
What silver ink? Also, what is electrofoaming? 
Jan 14, 2010. 12:43 PMchrispix says:
I'd like to lay down conductive strips on a door, but the lengths are long, and the glue alone would create too much resistance. If I used the conductive glue to attach conductive thread to the door, would that effectively reduce the resistance over a longer distance (say a few feet) to the resistance of the thread?
Oct 5, 2009. 10:33 PMddarko says:
Great instructable! I'm curious as to how much heat this could produce and how quickly. I'd like to use this on a fabric which I want heated to approx 30 degrees but it needs to heat up and cool down to ambient temperature pretty quickly, in a matter of a seconds. Does this sound achievable using typical batteries considering the modest temperature requirement? I'm willing to experiment but would really appreciate a professional opinion on the matter.
Jun 19, 2009. 3:49 AMBraisedDuck says:
where you get the robot?
Feb 1, 2009. 6:08 PMWesley666 says:
The conductive ink/paint/glue used powdered graphite. I want to know if you could use powdered copper?
Jan 7, 2009. 9:36 PMmettaurlover says:
im gonna use this technique to turn my winter gloves into tazers:)
Dec 16, 2008. 7:28 AMnap70 says:
Your instructable helped me convert my nice dance pads for my (now deceased) PS2 to work on my Xbox 360. My kids are so happy! My kids are DDR fanatics. I bought them nice dance pads for the PS2 a long time ago. After the PS2 died, I got the game with pad for the 360. The kids hate the pad that comes with the game. But no one seems to make the nicer pads for the 360. So I decided to open up the pads to see what I can learn. The two are basically the same design, even the traces line up. But I had no idea how to attach the plastic sensor to the circuit board. A google search for conductive adhesive led me here. I'm so glad it worked. I still have to convert the other dance pad. I will try to make an instructable for that and link to this article.
Oct 7, 2008. 6:52 AMBlackDidThis says:
Wow ;
What in informative Instructable!
I actually signed up JUST to be able to post on this and rate it!

I was once planning on making my wife a “Taser” glove as a fun(cool) project so that she could use for self deffence or what not outside (gets pretty cold here) without needing to rush to her purse or anything.

My original idea was to pour an attractive latex addition to an inexpensive glove I purchased some while earlier (they were called “jogging” gloves). And to try burying wires from the battery and high-voltage in the design (She has to be able to wear it outside remember?).
Well it doesn’t take much to figure out that wires do not exactly stretch like a glove would! I was just too caught up with the “cool looking gadget” idea to correctly analyse correct functionality even though I was so busy evaluating of her ergonomics, cushion pads, her hand mould and etc...

As an alternative; I was thinking of how we used to copper plate polyester statues we made in the academy and then chemically treated them to look like Bronze. I was thinking if there would be a way to do the same since to be able to electroplate it we used to paint it with a strong mix of (in that project) coppered paint, making it conductive.
Why couldn’t I paint an insulated glove (Was NOT a good idea with such a high voltage)?

To no success I retreated to the original idea of giving wires a certain distance for motion and to put it all ‘under’ the glove.
Where safety was a concern though that maybe a rubber glove underneath would be a good idea and etc...

As you may guess:
The project has been on hold for some time, due to impracticalness at the period of "just begining".

Now that I read your instructable;
I am full with many new ideas! If nothing; a few of my other glove projects had involved a glove that you would not need to take off in cold weathers to be able to use your touch-pad (there are two that I use often, a very thick one that is also battery operated for really cold weathers, and another that is more what a liner with conductive thread patches.

For all honesty; after my failure and no demand for such a “weapon/toy”; I didn’t experiment with other metals or binders… (Also due to lack of time and too many other projects to attend to)

Would you recommend the conductive glue or paint you have experimented with for such voltages ranging from 400 volts on (depending on the feed it gets up to a nasty 1100 even. It is something almost all of us must have done at some time with an old flash... nothing too new there)

I will try to experiment with your combinations first chance I get though.

THANK you for the inspiration!

Black
Sep 11, 2008. 7:38 AMjdrews says:
Thanks for your instructable mikey77!

As a sidenote:
If any of you have trouble finding "Tuloul solvent", I believe it's a typo. I think it's Tuluol solvent, or more commonly known as Toluene. Here's a wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluene
Jul 31, 2008. 3:28 PMabsalom says:
i'd love to get this conductive glue working. got the DAP contact cement & the graphite.. made a thick pulpy mess that conducts nada... i tried several different mixtures from goopy to liquid. also, i am trying to make switches conducting 5v. what am i doing wrong?
Jul 19, 2008. 7:07 PMXynck says:
Could you lay a line of Conductive Glue from wrist to fingertip to wrist, stick an LED on your fingertip, connect the glue to battery terminals, and have it work?
Jul 21, 2008. 10:49 AMRedgerr says:
W O W... thats all i can say, this is absolutely amazing!!!!1!!1!
Jul 8, 2008. 5:27 PMguitarman63mm says:
Is there a more cost-effective method of conductive paint? Or maybe copper foil is more my deal for reducing interference. . .
Jun 25, 2008. 4:08 AMsrikr125 says:
hello folks!! does anyone know if there is any p-type conductive glue that can be used in polymer led...
Apr 22, 2008. 7:38 PMmightywombat says:
This is awesome stuff, all dozen-odd versions! I especially LOVE the tiny nano-sumo robot. Do you have any instructions or anything on how I might begin to make one?
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