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Convert A Computer Power supply to a Variable Bench Top Lab Power Supply

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Prices Today for a lab power supply well exceed $180. But it turns out a obsolete computer power supply is perfect for the job instead. With these costing you only $25 and having short circuit protection, thermal protection, Overload protection and varied output voltages of 3v, 5v and 12v but we will me modifying it to give out 1.5v to 24v. They are perfect for general electronics.

This is my first Instructable for what I think is a brilliant idea, I'm only 14 and i can build it

WARNING: This will void warranty's and can shock you if you don't have your wits about you

NOTE: This Tutorial is littered with bad grammar and spelling mistakes. English Teachers may want to look away now

Your going to need:
Tape
Screw Driver
Computer PSU (I recommend 250W+)
PSU Cable
Wire Snaps
Soldering Iron
A 10ohm, 10W or greater power resistor (Some new power supply's don't work properly without some load so this can provide that)

Optional:
Switch
2 LEDs of any colour (Red and Green is the best)
If your using the leds you need a 1 or 2 330 OEM Resistor(s)
Heat Shrink Tubing
External Enclosure (Some people cram it all inside the Power supply case or you can put it in a external enclosure.)

These Depend on which method you use: (More on that later):
Terminal Blocks
Drill
LM317 or LM338K Voltage regulator
100nF Capacitors (ceramic or tantalum)
1uF Capacitors Electrolytic
1N4001 or 1N4002 Power Diode
120 Ohm resistor
5k Ohm variable resistor
Binding Posts
Crocodile Clips
 
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arush21 month ago

hi friend

Currently I'm working with some dc motors and i need negative voltage with high current, but when I connect the GND of the "power supply 1" to the 12V of the "power supply 2", to use the GND of "power supply 2" as -12V, i have a short circuit, and therefore the "power supply 2" is switched off. Is there some way to get -12V with high current?

thanks

pffm12 arush213 days ago

You'll probably need to isolate the ground of your wall plug from the power supplies plugs. That way you won't get a shortcircuit through your house wiring.

anubisankh made it!26 days ago

I put mine in a Subwoofer case. Great instructions! I blogged about mine here:

http://www.imustbebored.com/2014/06/bench-top-powe...

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Dave__2 months ago

Thank you for this great tutorial. It has worked for me...

But today, I used it for half an hour. Suddenly, it has stopped working. I've tried to switch it on and off, but nothing. Just a little buzzing when I used the switch. I've opened the case and looked for a short, but everything has seemed to be OK.

Just to know: I was using the -12V and +12V for an electrolysis.

What could be the problem?

en_rov3 months ago

To reduce the speed the fan spins, why not hooking it to the 5v line instead of the 3.3v?

zacker1 year ago
I am a total newb and am trying to follow this but I have a couple questions...
-5v, -12v or +5v, +12v? what are those? and whats with the plus, minus? i thought 12v was 12 v?
How would these read on a tester? I want to use this mainly to power an Electrolyte Rust Removal tank (13 gallon tub) and it really only needs to be like, 12v dc with about 2 amps... But for Amps, the more I can safely get, the better I guess. With 2A I'd most likly be leaving it running for up to 8 hrs at a clip. Thoughts? I have a Delll, 305W PSU its like a P/N: N305N-00 or something like that. please see my next comment...
agr00m zacker4 months ago

Voltage is a potential difference between two points, where one is typically 'ground'. A negative voltage means that it has a negative voltage potential when referenced to ground. Voltage then flows from a point with a higher potential to one with a lower one.

Think of it kind of like elevations with ground being sea level. Anything higher than sea level has a + elevation, and anything below sea level is a - elevation. But ground can also be just any arbitrary reference point. For example, our above "sea level" could be changed to say the elevation of the first floor in your house. Anything above it has a + elevation and below a - elevation. Yet in reference to sea level everything has a + elevation.

The reason there are +/- voltages in electrical applications is because you sometimes need voltage differentials that are lower than ground. Audio is a common application.

As all that applies to this project though, a basic reason for having +/- voltages is to allow for a wider range of voltage outputs than just the 3.3, 5 and 12. For example if connected a device between -3.3v and +5v, you would have 8.3v. Between +12v and +5v you get +7v. Between -3.3v and -12v you get 8.7v. That is if you connect + to the higher voltage output and - to the lesser output.

Jeebiss zacker1 year ago
If you follow common electrical convention, you can have a positive AND a negative voltage reading. I dont fully understand the specifics, but essentially everything is relative to your ground source.

I was recently researching the subject, and the most to the point explanation I found was this - http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/10322/what-is-negative-voltage
zacker zacker1 year ago
THis is the Pin Out directly off the Dell Site for my PSU....
Pin Number, Voltage / Name, Color of Wire.

1 +3.3 VDC* Orange
2 +3.3 VDC* Orange
3 COM Black
4 +5VDC Red
5 COM Black
6 +5 VDC Red
7 COM Black
8 P_OK Gray
9 +5 VFP Purple (Whats VFP?)
10 +12 VBDC White (Whats VBDC?)
11 +12 VBDC White
12 +3.3 VDC* Orange
13 +3.3 VDC*/SE* Orange
14 ? 12 VDC Blue
15 COM Black
16 PS-ON Green
17 COM Black
18 COM Black
19 COM Black
20 NA NA
21 +5 VDC Red
22 +5 VDC Red
23 +5 VDC Red
24 COM Black
*The orange +3.3 VDC output wires must be 16 AWG. The +3.3 VDC terminals are high current type (9 A current rating/Molex-HCS type).
*The +3.3VDC/SE is a brown sense wire for +3.3VDC and is optional.
Scarrmakerz11 months ago
Hey, this instructable is great! i have a question, i have a single pink wire and a single brown wire on my ATX PSU. what are they for?
I searched another how to and I found out that they are 2 sensing wires. Brown goes to orange +3.3v and the pink goes to red +5v. hope that helps others!
wes13711 year ago
instead of the 10w 10Ohm resistor you can also rewire the PSU's standard fan in place of the resistor as a "load"
I used a lm350 and a 10k pot. I only get a .2 volt range, (full power to -.2). Is this indicative of a bad pot, regulator, caps or component choices?
jasshopper1 year ago
how can i get(or can you)24v at a minimum of 10A out of it?(the modifications)?
zacker1 year ago
hi, this is just what im looking for except one thing. I am using a PSU from a DELL XPS and its a 750W and it has both a 20 wire plug AND a 24 wire plug besides all the other little connectors with 6 or 4 wires.
Do I use ALL the wires? take every black wire and put them together, every red, every orange, blue (well, blue with a white stripe)... ? also, do i use a 10w, 10 ohm resistor or do i need a bigger one? thanks!
Rahib1721 year ago
Can i use all black Ground wires instead of -12 wire ? i don't need 22+ volts output just need 1v to 12v variable power with good amp.. And can i use LM-350 instead of LM317 or LM338K ?
Thank u
I am trying to convert a new 1200W PSU and have found that in addition to the expected wire colors there are Yellow & Green wires as well. I looked around online and found that they are "Protective Ground" wires.

What do I do with them?

Any help would be great.

Thanks,
E
how many amps does this put out???
You can not get more Amperes than the -12Volts rail.( probably max. 2 Amperes) LM317 only gives out 1,5Amperes. you can add a 2N3055 for more Amperes.The variable with LM317 is not suitable for a CB radio. Am I wrong?
Depends on the supply.. Most have the amperage listed on the side label, BUT.... here's the catch.. To achieve that maximum amperage, will require ALL wires for that voltage, not just 1 or 2.. I.E. for a 250W, you'll need all 10 red wires for the +5V, with a 10W load resistor, to get 240W (48-Amp MAX!).. and that supply will be maxed out if you pull that total, and shut-down from overload.

I've made a few supplies, +/-12V, +5V, +3.3V (No -5V.) out of the 200W supplies from a bunch of old Optiplex desktops.. usually use a 30-Ohm, 5W resistor across the +5. Been able to run gadget projects, Amateur Radio equipment, (with little to NO noise, surprisingly.) external hard drives, even charge Gel-Cell batteries from them.

It also depends on the condition of the supply... Brand New? Pulled from a working computer? or pulled from a failed computer? If the last, suspect even the supply may be bad, and NOT a good candidate for conversion. (See remark below I made to Coolinst, about the one that went up in smoke.)
Gelfling61 year ago
I've always used the lower-right schematic as my basis for all of the supplies I've converted. Never used the Standby +5 voltage, though, though I imagine it would be usable for an electronically switched (On/Off) supply that you would want to be able to power-down to idle, but bring-up with an external circuit. (shades of a power-up on LAN)..

There are some circuits for ( http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/n1np/local/manual_fan_controller.jpg for example) for manual control, but thermal control would require making a circuit that uses a thermal varister in place of the potentiometer... most of the time, I'd simply leave the noisy fan be, as it's doing its job, and unless noise is a problem (needing quiet for recording, etc.) it's not worth baking the supply, but slowing the fan.

Most supplies have a built-in speed control now, and the last few supplies I've converted, I replaced the straight-wired fan with a thermal circuit & fan (if it fits) from another supply I've scrapped.
Coolinst4 years ago
 My PSU has no green wire. What should I do?
most Dell supplies, are wired slightly different on the ATX connector.. Sometimes a Grey, sometimes a totally different color.. Once it gets this confusing, the next step is to unplug the supply from the wall, and let it sit overnight.. then break-out the screwdriver, and open the box.. Sometimes, if you're lucky, they have the wires labeled on the PBC of the supply.. I'm looking at a 350W supply from Dell, that I pulled from a Optiplex G570 someone killed. So-far, the Pwr-On wire is blue, and I haven't fried anything yet. (still remembering my 1st Dell supply going up in smoke..)
I have the same problem how you overcome it. Please tell..
prodlad (author)  Coolinst4 years ago
its not atx standard. it could say on the side or search for wiring schemes on google
Sean E2 years ago
hi, for the variable voltage method what voltage capacitors did you use?
lone_viper2 years ago
Hi,
I am putting one of these together and have come across something that I might be getting wrong....

In mocking up the LM317 circuit in breadboard, I have got the thing metering -11v to +11v??? I am using one of the black ground wires on the black side of the volt meter, but cant figure out why I am not just getting positive voltages??? Could the diode be faulty? Or is this in fact correct?

Any help appreciated...
lone_viper,
The way you are measuring, it is correct.

reg set for max: meas +22var(actual +23)-->R1-->R2--> -12-->psu gnd= +11v

reg set for min: meas +22var(actual +1)-->R1-->R2--> -12-->psu gnd= -11v

0V has to become new gnd or (0V adj)
jsorbo2 years ago
Just wanted to say I loved the grammar and spelling disclaimer. Can't wait to build one of these. Cheers!
Will10YO2 years ago
This is sweeeeet! I'm 12yrs old and I built this- well, almost. I want to put in a resettable fuse / circuit breaker but I don't know what I should limit the current to. I want at least 2 amps but the only way to test it's potential could ruin it. What do you think I should limit it to?
M0HIZ2 years ago
Well done! I'm 14 too and also have a keen interest in electronics.
dent2442 years ago
where did you learn about electronics so well? i am 16 and i have been trying to teach myself, i have done enough to understand the basics but i get lost when i try to go further, like i have some gaps in my learning? did you have a formal education?
park472 years ago
Hi Thank You...for careful and detailed instructions. Please keep on doing this , there're new-ones in e-town everyday. It's very useful...:)
DJ-AS2 years ago
It's a nice idea, but the variable +22v just have 1A like -12A, or i'm wrong?
pcmxa5 years ago
Nice tutorial. I am a total newbie at this and I was wondering if anybody had troubleshooting tips. I have wired one up (coolmax nw-650b) but it isn't working. green is connected directly to black I have connected the small orange wire (the 3.3v sense wire) to another orange wire. I have a 10ohm 10 watt resistor on one red wire and one black wire. The standby led lights when the unit is plugged in. But the mains power led connected to gray wire doesn't light when PSU is turned on. The fan doesn't come on either. The resistor doesn't heat up.. There is a very faint whine a few seconds after power-up and power down. The capacitors on the PSU are holding a charge. There is an 8 ohm resistance on the red and the orange wires. Between the yellow and the black I am getting 9.85 kohms. There is no brown wire. The blue wire is not connected to anything. I have two yellow and black striped slightly smaller gauge wires that at first I had connected to nothing and then connected to other yellow wires. No difference. Any thoughts? Thanks
prodlad (author)  pcmxa5 years ago
There probally is a short some where. Make sure the mains on led is the right way around. Try disconnecting everything and just short the green and black wire. Make sure any wires arnt touching any other wires except the green and black. If the capictors dont hold charge your PSU has lost all hope. Il add a troubleshooting section to the tutorial.
HVahead prodlad2 years ago
i had the same issue and found that there is a switch used for switching between us voltage and foreign(now used as my power switch).there are two gray wires off of it try shorting one of them to the case while your supply is plugged in and "on"(if it applies to you) and if that doesn't work use the other one... i must do this every time the psu is unplugged if this doesnt work then get a new supply 'cause som'ns fried
pcmxa5 years ago
Thanks, a troubleshooting section would be great. Where I am at now: The fuse on the circuit board is good, the capictors hold a charge (When I plug in the PSU the standby LED comes on, when I turn on the switch on the PSU casing after a few seconds the standby led goes out. with a slight whine from the capacitors.). I have a circuit (tested using Ohm meter) from the green wire (the one originally connected to the 20 pin device) and the black(ground)wire bundle. There is no circuit between the black wire coming off the PSU casing switch to the board or to the white (hot ) wire coming from the power plug in. I also get a circuit from the second heat dispenser to a ground wire but not from anything before it in the circuit. So my best guess is I somehow shorted something out, or I don't have a sense wire connected properly. I will disconnect everything and see if I redo step by step, but I think something is shot. Thank you for the info.
HVahead pcmxa2 years ago
i had the same issue and found that there is a switch used for switching between us voltage and foreign(now used as my power switch).there are two gray wires off of it try shorting one of them to the case while your supply is plugged in and "on"(if it applies to you) and if that doesn't work use the other one... i must do this every time the psu is unplugged if this doesnt work then get a new supply 'cause som'ns fried
rich_moe pcmxa5 years ago
without looking, I would say that the sense line (normally a small, brown wire) needs to be grounded, but through a resistor. something that is rated for 25W at about 2-5 Ohms shoud do it. other PSU's need a load on the +5VDC line in order to regulate properly and have a smooth output. i don't know which yours is, but if your sense line or the +5VDC line has no load on it, the PSU 'sees' this as a short to ground and shuts down. YMMV.
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