Crystallization of homemade sodium acetate

 by indigoandblack
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Step 2: Combining baking soda with vinegar

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The first step is the fun part!

Start by pouring all but one cup of the white vinegar into the boiling container (5.5 Qt or larger). (See note about acids below...)

Then, carefully add baking soda to the vinegar, small amounts at a time (no more than a tablespoon). Sprinkle it over the vinegar - don't just dump it in. If you add too much baking soda too quickly, the foam from the reaction may overflow your container.

Stir gently after each addition of baking soda to ensure no unreacted bicarbonate remains.

After adding about a half box of baking soda, you should notice the reaction starting to slow down. At this point you may want to reduce the amount of soda you're adding each time to a teaspoon. When a teaspoon (or less) of baking soda sprinkled over the solution no longer bubbles instantly but bubbles very sluggishly as it sinks into the liquid, it's time to stop. In my experience, it's taken roughly 12 oz of baking soda to get to this point (about 3/4 of a 16 oz box).

Finally, add the retained cup of vinegar to the liquid. Since judging the stopping point can be difficult to eyeball, I've found it helpful to withhold a small amount of vinegar and add it after the baking soda reaction almost stops. This way, we err on the side of excess unreacted acetic acid (which will largely boil off) rather than excess unreacted sodium bicarbonate (which will not, and can interfere with crystallization).

(Note on acids: yes yes, I know, we're all taught in science class that you never add X to acid, you add acid to X... Good! Brownie points for remembering that! This stuff, however, is a 5% solution of acetic acid, and personally, I'm not too concerned about burning my skin off. If you're too uncoordinated to keep it out of your eyes, wear goggles.)
 
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MAR! says: Dec 28, 2010. 2:22 PM
About at what temp. should i boil this?
ycsmela in reply to MAR!Jan 10, 2011. 5:23 PM
I just made some 1/9/11 and I boiled over a medium heat and it came out clearer. I did 2 batches the first one I added the vinegar to the baking soda and that batch seemed darker, but the second batch I slowly added the baking soda to vinegar and it was clearer and a different consistency of crystal formation too. Give it a try and see what happens. Good luck. I did boil about 90 percent off too.
MAR! in reply to ycsmelaJan 13, 2011. 4:22 PM
But yours did crystallize like it should, right? Not just dehydrate and turn to mush in the pot? My stove has numbers so to me med high is a little over 3.
Heres how 4 attempts ended in my case, help me please.
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Shiggity says: Oct 15, 2009. 2:57 AM
"This way, we err on the side of excess unreacted acetic acid(which will largely boil off) rather than excess unreacted sodiumbicarbonate (which will not, and can interfere with crystallization)."

I know you already mentioned in your errata that acetic acid has ahigher boiling point than water, but I think it should also bementioned that you can decant a solution of sodium acetate fromunreacted baking soda since it is solid, and you ARE in that case"adding acid to X."  Therefore it seems easier to add thebaking soda first and then decant the solution into another container.
wnysorvr says: Jun 11, 2008. 7:40 PM
Hi, I am currently trying to make this stuff although I am very worried that we somehow did it wrong. Right now were filtering it, but it took a really really long time to boil. It is currently 1045 at night and weve been doing this since 430.Should this have taken this long already?......I am extremely confused. And also will this solution work to make hot ice?
tankman1 in reply to wnysorvrJul 29, 2009. 10:48 AM
Blow your match out and try heating it on a cooker it may work
aspiring_alchemist says: Dec 11, 2008. 3:27 AM
I'm an aspiring chemistry teacher and studying right now in college. I was planning to use your "Instructables" material on my defense but some of your instructions are not clear for me. like this one, how much acetic acid do I need? coz you didn't stated how much vinegar we need in this reaction you just said that I must add 1 cup then add some sodium bicarbonate but since I have a jug of vinegar when will I add all of these? I need a reply ASAP. thank you
indigoandblack (author) in reply to aspiring_alchemistDec 11, 2008. 7:50 AM
Ah, interesting. Hope I get a reference on your paper. ;-) Actually, I think you'd do well to go back and re-read the instructions (a bit more carefully this time). The instructions don't say what you say they do. In the second step: "Start by pouring all but one cup of the white vinegar into the ... container." "1 cup" does not equal "all but one cup". :-)
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