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DIY Electron Accelerator: A Cathode Ray Tube in a Wine Bottle

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Learn how to build your own subatomic particle accelerator in a weekend! This simple project will allow you to investigate a variety of intriguing effects including magnetic deflection of an electron beam, Crookes dark space, plasma striations in a gas discharge tube, and many others. It can easily be used for a high school physics or science fair project and is compact enough to be demonstrated virtually anywhere.

You could be accelerating electrons to non-relativistic velocities after a trip to Home Depot and a visit to your local AC repair store and neon sign shop! Best of all, no advanced electrical or mechanical knowledge or tools are required.

Judges, see step 12 for contest entry details.

Here's some video evidence:



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Step 1: Design/Theory

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As complex as the idea of a particle accelerator might seem, it's actually strikingly simple to implement. The design we will be using was first created in the late 19th century by J.J. Thomson and subsequently used to make several important discoveries about the fundamental nature of the atom and the electron. Later, in the early 20th century, Cockroft and Walton (yup, the same hooligans responsible for the voltage multiplier) used a similar design to build the first true electrostatic linear accelerator, or "static linac" for short. Nowadays, advanced versions of this type of accelerator are commonly used for radiotherapy and ion implantation.

Essentially, our cathode ray tube is just two electrodes in a vacuum chamber with a high voltage applied between them. When enough of the air in the chamber has been removed, electrons will freely accelerate from the negative electrode (cathode) towards the positive electrode (anode). However, instead of impacting the anode and returning to the power supply, some electrons will fly right past it and keep going until they hit a glass wall.

Some interesting effects that can be observed at this stage are sputtering and magnetic deflection.

Sputtering:

If the acceleration potential is high enough, then some electrons striking the anode will have enough energy to knock metal ions right off the electrode. These ions will be deposited on the walls of the chamber near the anode and will create a silvery band somewhat reminiscent of the "getter" inside of an old vacuum tube.

Magnetic Deflection:

In physics, we all learned the Lorentz force law ( F = q[E + v x B] ), or the force on a point charge due to electromagnetic fields. In this context, it tells us that electrons will be accelerated from the cathode to the anode due E, the electrostatic field created by the high voltage power supply and that those electrons will also be accelerated by another field, B, in a manner that is dependent on the velocity, v, of those electrons. Since the velocity vectors of the electrons will be pointing roughly from the cathode to the the anode without an external magnetic field, we can use this to find out what effect a magnetic field will have if we introduce one.

Let's say we bring a magnet close to the tube while it's energized and we align it so that its field is roughly normal to the surface of the vacuum chamber. If we compute qv x B, we will find that the force due to the magnetic field is perpendicular to the paths of the electrons and to the magnetic field (by the definition of a cross product). In other words, the magnet curves the paths of the electrons and this effect is amplified by the duration that the electrons spend in the field. This effect can easily be observed inside of our cathode ray tube if a magnet is present nearby.

I've included a diagram of the mechanical construction of the accelerator to give a rough idea of how everything will work.

Step 2: Gather Materials

For the vacuum chamber, you will need....

(1) Clear Wine Bottle
(1) Mini Chrome-Plated Metal Doorknob
(1) 3" Piece of 3/16" Steel Brake Line
(1) Piece of Steel/Aluminum Wire Several Inches Long
(1) Tube of Pressure Rated 5 Minute Epoxy

For the vacuum system, you will need....

(1) 2 Stage High Vacuum Pump
(1) 1' - 2' section of 1/4" rubber hose
(2) 1/4" Screw Clamps
(1) Brass Pump to Hose Converter
(1) Roll of Teflon Tape

For the high voltage power supply, you will need....

(1) 9kV Neon Sign Transformer
(1) High Voltage Microwave Oven Diode (Read this instructable to learn how to safely extract one from a microwave oven)

[or any other source of at least 10kV DC, a DC flyback will work even better than a rectified NST]

You will also need a drill with a 3/16" bit that can cut metal and a small glass/tile spade bit for cutting the bottle.

All of the parts excluding the wine bottle and vacuum pump can be purchased at almost any hardware store. If you don't include the cost of the pump and neon sign transformer, then this project should cost no more than $30 total.

The pump I used was a Viot VPD3 15 micron dual stage refrigeration pump. I bought it on eBay for $200 including shipping and handling. At this price, it is easily the best deal - most other pumps in this range only pull around 75 microns, which may not be enough for cathode ray tube operation.

Here are pictures of some of the more important parts:


Step 3: Clean The Bottle

The first step in our adventure is to clean out the wine bottle and remove any internal or external labels it might have.

After washing the bottle with warm, soapy water to get rid of any leftovers, allow it to sit for several minutes in a sink filled with hot water. This will weaken the adhesives that bind the labels to the bottle.

Next, carefully use a knife or potato peeler to cut the labels loose. Make sure you remove them from the sink before you drain it so that nothing gets clogged. You may have to work back and forth with the knife for a few minutes to completely clean off the bottle. Do not, under any circumstances, crack the bottle. This will weaken its integrity and cause it to shatter when a vacuum is applied.

Here are some pictures of this procedure:

Step 4: Drill The Anode Mount

This is the only part where you will need to drill glass.

Carefully, using a small glass/tile spade bit, drill a hole large enough for the metal wire to fit through about half way down the length of the bottle. Make sure there are no cracks, if there are, you will need to start over. Drilling this hole is something you may want to practice a few times before you do it on the bottle you plan to use.

If you're afraid of using a drill to make the hole, then you can also do this by hand. First, use the spade bit to chip a small dent into the place where you plan to drill. Then, just apply some pressure and twist back and forth until the hole is cut. You should hear a scraping sound as the bit chips away at the glass.

Make sure you work in place where it will be easy to clean up small shards of glass in case your bottle shatters and wear appropriate protective clothing (long sleeve shirt, closed toed shows, leather gloves, etc.). Finally, once you're done, vacuum up the glass powder created by drilling the hole and proceed to the next step.

Unfortunately, I don't currently have any pictures of myself cutting or drilling the anode mount (my hands were a bit tied up at the time....). When I get back home, I'll get an assistant and try to take some.

In the meantime, here is a picture of the completed system to give you a better idea of where the anode mount should be.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
If you are afraid that your vacuum pump won't be able to pull the level of vacuum required for cathode ray tube operation, with a tube this size, then all you have to do is mount the anode closer to the cathode to reduce the level of vacuum that you need.

Step 5: Build the Cathode/Vacuum Port

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The doorknob and steel brake line assembly at the top of the bottle will serve a dual purpose, functioning as both the cathode (negative terminal) and the vacuum port.

To start construction of this component, remove the screw that comes with the metal doorknob and set it aside. We won't be using it.

Next, drill a 3/16" diameter hole straight through the doorknob starting from the side that the screw was mounted in. The best way to do this is to use progressively larger drill bits to widen the screw threads until they disappear and the hole is wide enough to accommodate the steel brake line. Then, use a smaller bit to drill all the way through the doorknob. It's important that the holes goes all the way through, otherwise, there would be no way for the pump to suck the air out of the bottle. It's also important that the hole be 3/16" wide at the back of the doorknob so that the brake line fits in, but no as wide closer to the front of the doorknob so that it doesn't slide all the way through

One this is done and you have confirmed that the brake line fits snugly into the area where the screw was mounted but does not slide all the way through, apply some epoxy to the inside surface of the hole you drilled and slide the brake line in. Do not allow the epoxy to enter the narrower hole that goes all the way through the doorknob as it might clog it. I attached a diagram and some pictures to better illustrate how all of this is done.

Step 6: Assemble the Tube

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To finish construction of your cathode ray tube, first, apply a layer of epoxy over the rim of the mouth of the wine bottle. Then, carefully lower the cathode construction so that the glue is even and the brake line is centered on the vertical axis of the bottle. Make sure no epoxy gets into the tube so that it doesn't become clogged.

After that, bend the steel wire into a C shape roughly the inner diameter of the wine bottle. Allow a couple inches of extra wire on one end of the C for an electrical connection. Next, insert the C into anode hole drilled in the wine bottle so that the couple inches of extra wire sticks out of the bottle. Twist the electrode until the C is normal to the vertical axis of the bottle. In other words, you should orient the anode such that all points on it are roughly equidistant to the cathode. This may take a few tries, so be patient!

Once the anode is mounted correctly, secure it with plenty of epoxy to make sure the hole is airtight.

When everything has dried (give it at least a few hours), use a pair of needle nose pliers to bend the end of the anode that is protruding from the bottle into a small circle and put a bead of solder over it. This optional step will help to reduce corona discharge losses and will make it easier to make a solder connection to the anode.

OPTIONAL:
Scrape some phosphors off the inside wall of a fluorescent tube, dissolve them in water, pour the mixture into the tube before mounting the cathode, and allow it to evaporate so the phosphors are deposited on the bottom of the bottle to make a "screen" for your tube. Electrons that make it past the anode will continue down the tube, hit the phosphors, and cause them to fluoresce. This is something that I will definitely do if I ever get around to making a second tube.

Step 7: Prepare the Pump

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If you've worked with vacuum pumps before and already know what goes where and who connects to what, then you can skip this step. On the other hand, if you're never used a vacuum pump before and are just pulling yours out of the box it shipped it (my condition when I began this project), then read on to learn how to set everything up correctly.

The first thing you will need to do once you unpack your pump is to fill it with oil. Most new pumps come with a small bottle that should be enough to get started.

To do this, you will need to remove the exhaust filter (picture 3) by unscrewing it. Then, using a plastic funnel, carefully pour your entire bottle of oil inside of the pump (picture 1). If you're not using a bottle that was included with the pump, then this may be too much so you will need to check the oil level indicator (picture 2) on the side of the pump. Give the oil a few minutes to reach the indicator after you pour it in.

If there is no oil visible in the indicator, then you will either need to wait a little longer or add some more oil into the pump. Add oil in small increments; remember, the oil you are using has a relatively high viscosity and it needs to flow all the way though the pump before reaching the indicator, so it will take time for changes to become apparent.

If the oil level is anywhere between the "MIN" and "MAX" markings, then you are ready to go. Reattach the exhaust filter and follow any pre-use instructions that may be included with your pump (ie. run it for 15 seconds and then check the oil level to make sure it is ok). If there are no problems, then proceed to the next step.

If the oil level is above the "MAX" marker, then you will need to drain some of it away. Unscrew the oil drain (picture 2) and transfer the excess oil back into the bottle or into a plastic container. You should do this in small increments for the same reason that you should add oil only in small increments.

***Gas Ballast Valve: The gas ballast valve (picture 3) should be tightened all the way for maximum vacuum to be attained. My pump shipped with the gas ballast valve in this condition, but your may not. Check to see that it is tight before moving on.

Step 8: Assemble the Vacuum System

To connect the vacuum pump to your cathode ray tube, you will need your brass pump to hose converter, about 2 feet of 1/4" rubber tubing, a pair of screw clamps, and some Teflon tape.

First, apply a few layers of Teflon tape over the middle of the steel brake line and over the middle of the threads on screw connector of your vacuum pump.

Second, install the pump to hose converter such that the Teflon tape is inside the interlocking threads of the screw connector and converter. Basically, this means you need to keep screwing the converter onto the pump until little or no Teflon tape is visible.

Third, apply a layer or two of Teflon tape over the hose end of the pump to hose converter and slide the hose over it until it is all the way on. Then, use a screw clamp to secure the hose.

Fourth, use a screw clamp to secure the other end of the hose over the Teflon tape on the steel brake line sticking out of the cathode ray tube.

*phew*

The mechanical portion of the exercise is now complete.

/* If you're never worked with Teflon tape before, you should be warned that it's not actually tape; there's nothing sticky about it. The way you secure it is by wrapping it tightly around your work piece and then letting the vacuum pump do the rest. When you turn the pump on, the difference in pressure will cause it to assume whatever form you've forced it into and it will block air from leaking into the system (which is something that it's very good at). The first time I assembled my system, I decided not to put any tape over the vacuum pump's screw connector and I only used the screw clamp to hold the rubber tube in place. Big mistake! I wasn't able to reach anywhere near cathode ray tube operation pressure until I added that tape.

It is possible to assemble the system without a pump to hose converter if your pump's inlet is small enough for the rubber tube to fit over it. Instead of screwing on a converter, just force the hose over the Teflon tape and clamp it down: */

Step 9: Build and Hook Up the Power Supply

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The cathode ray tube/gas discharge tube does not require any sort of specialized power supply. Any high voltage power supply that can produce over 10kV of potential difference will work. In fact, you can even use an AC power supply if you don't mind the electrons going the wrong way half the time.

The best type of power supply to use would probably be a (roughly) 20kV DC flyback transformer using a low current driver like a 555 oscillator and MOSFET. In fact, almost any of the "quick high voltage power supply" instructables we have here should work. However, I did not have a flyback power supply on hand when I was building this project, so I used a rectified neon sign transformer instead.

I've included an electrical schematic that shows how to hook the diode up to the transformer. One end of the transformer is hooked up to the cathode of the cathode ray tube, while the other end is hooked up to the anode of the high voltage diode (the triangle end). Then, the cathode of the diode (the vertical line segment) is hooked up to the anode of the cathode ray tube.The second picture is of the completed electrical setup and the last two pictures show the transformer and diode individually:


Step 10: Fire it Up!

Once you've assembled the vacuum system and connected the high voltage power supply, you're ready for a test.

To begin, simply turn on the power supply and vacuum pump, sit back, and enjoy the show!

At first, a continuous red-purple discharge will appear between the anode and cathode. Then, the two colors will begin to separate until there is a distinctly visible dark space between them called the Crookes dark space. After that, striations in the plasma near the cathode will appear and the colors of the discharge will start to become paler. Finally, the striations and dark space will disappear and the entire tube will be filled with a pale blue/white glow. At this point, you have reached cathode ray tube operation.

Here is a brief document that explains some of the plasma-related phenomena visible inside the tube:
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/feb2001/981758142.Ph.r.html

I've included a picture of the tube operating in cathode ray mode and some pictures of what it looks like during the pump down sequence.

Step 11: Safety

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There's something inherently dangerous about mixing high voltage power supplies with glass containers under high vacuum and if you're going to attempt this project, you should be acutely aware of that fact. Always wear appropriate protective clothing when working with glass or when operating your accelerator, and NEVER use a cracked vacuum chamber. An implosion is a very serious risk if this is the case. Also, there is no need to keep the tube energized for more than 30 to 40 seconds at a time. A properly built tube could easily run indefinitely in it's energized state, but it's safer to keep things running cool by giving it some time to rest, after all, you will need to handle the tube once the demonstration is complete.

A note about x-rays and other radiation:

With the sort of vacuum levels that can be reached using a two stage mechanical pump, there should be absolutely no cause for concern regarding the production of harmful radiation. If your accelerator will produce any radiation at all, it will be in the form of "soft" x-rays that will be contained within the chamber. In order to produce harmful amounts of radiation, you would need an oil diffusion pump with an expertly constructed vacuum system that includes a foreline trap and a 30kV+ power supply. Such a system is far beyond the scope of this instructable and there's no way a mechanical pump could "accidentally" pull a few more orders of magnitude of vacuum than it's rated for.

That said, I think the above warning sign should serve as a general guide towards safe behavior in the presence of high voltage and high vacuum. Be as careful as you possibly can and be aware that you are the only one who is responsible if something goes wrong.

Good luck!

Xellers

Step 12: Contest Entries

I started laying down some ideas I had about why I'd entered this instructable into various contests as part of another step, but then I realized how much I'd written, so I transplanted everything here. Enjoy!

1. 4th Epilog Challenge

"Be sure to tell us what you'll do with the Zing if you win!"

What would I do if I won a laser cutter? What wouldn't I!

As the captain of my high school's science team who is responsible for managing building events, I can see dozens of ways in which our school could use this device. Not only will it allow us to assemble balsa wood structures with never before seen precision, but it will also significantly reduce the time it takes and thus the number of structures we can test before we take one to an event. Usually, due to the time it takes to cut and measure everything by hand, we can only make one or two structures in time for an event, which means that if a design flaw shows up once we're done building, there's little we can do to correct it. Not anymore with the Zing!

We also build other complex things like musical instruments and Rube Goldberg devices that require precision parts to work smoothly. While duct tape and glue work to a certain extent, we've always ended up with something that falls apart on the last day or doesn't work the right way when we demonstrate it. Using computer-designed mechanical components rather than "those pieces of scrap wood we found in [redacted]'s basement", we'll be able to make our stuff work right.

But enough about what this device could do for my team in terms of the competitive advantage it gives us, given that this laser will be available to anyone I know who asks (tools are shared among the team, and this is tool like any other), the real question to ask is not what I will do, but what will the dozens of people who will get to play with it too will do. All of my teammates are just about as passionate about science as I am and just as willing to tinker around and build something cool. Some of them even have instructables accounts and I'm sure they'll be dying to write up what they've made once they've made it. I know that sounded a bit cheesy, but I really hope to make it the truth.

Ok, ok... I realize I've somewhat of avoided the central focus of the question, "what will I do?", so here's a quick list of some stalled projects that could really use a kick in the behind from a laser cutter/engraver:

- Tube amplifier

After finding a trashed 1950s tube type television set in unserviceable condition about a year and a half ago, I did the only sensible thing I could and gutted it for parts to build a tube amp. Interestingly enough, this particular television used a 5AQ5 output tube and an 8FQ7 deflection oscillator. Why is that important? Well, as it turns out, the 5AQ5 is electrically identical to the held-in-high-esteem 6V6 output tube and the 8FQ7 is the same as the famous 12AX7. Both of these tubes are commonly used in high end audio and instrument amplification.

Once I realized that I was holding the key ingredients to a pretty darn good amplifier, I designed a circuit with what parts I had (my original drawing from ninth grade is attached) and got to work. Unfortunately, I didn't have any suitable output transformer, so I used something scavenged from a transistor amplifier that was (obviously) horribly mismatched to the output tube I was using. I also quickly learned that the 5AQ5 tube I had was leaky by the faint blue glow it emitted during operation. Nonetheless, it worked!

The reason I didn't pursue this project was my inability to build a proper enclosure for the amplifier. With the tools I had (and have), there's just no good way for me to punch precision holes in aluminum to mount transformers, tube sockets, screws, etc. (the last time I tried to use my dremel to make a square mounting hole in an aluminum project box was a disaster. It worked, but I ended up with jagged, uneven cuts and scratches all over the place; acceptable for that project, but not for an amplifier).

That's where the laser cutter comes in.

Using the Zing laser cutting system, I would easily be able to make cuts in the thin sheet of aluminum that I plan to mount everything onto and this would allow me to pursue my project without having to worry about the impossible nightmare that doing everything by hand would create. I would also be able to engrave professional-looking labels and switch mounting holes.

Given that the 5AQ5 an 8FQ7 tubes are actually nonstandard versions of already "worthless" tv tubes (the standard versions are the 6AQ5 and 6FQ7), they are extremely cheap, especially when compared to even the most inexpensive 6V6 and 12AX7 variants ($5 per tube versus $30 or more per tube). This means that a high quality stereo tube amplifier using these tubes could probably be built for $150 or less (my estimate including output and power transformers) and that it would rival the performance of systems costing many times that price. I think this is an exciting project that just needs a little touch of laser to get it going again!

- Analog computer

I'm currently working on a fully functional opamp-based analog computer that would be able to solve complex systems of differential equations that might not have analytic solutions. I became interested in analog computers when I read the Heathkit EC-1 Analog Computer Kit manual i found here. It used 9 vacuum tube-based opamps to solve relatively simple DEs, but with modern technology, I could easily increase that number to as many as I want; I plan on making it a modular unit. Of course, instead of having a whole box full of vacuum tubes for each unit, there will only be a few ICs per module.

I already tested my ability to make a simple analog computer by building a rudimentary 2 opamp computer that solves the equation of motion of a harmonic oscillator. All that remains to be done is more testing with more opamps, construction of the individual integrators/multipliers/adders/other operators, and construction of an enclosure. Since I plan on demonstrating this at my school and college, I want it to look as professional as possible. With my level of metalworking ability, however, the best I could do would be a mess. With a laser cutter, I would be able to machine a really nice enclosure that I could use for years.

- Homebuilt oscilloscope

With the success of this project, I am currently building a version 2 cathode ray tube with a more advanced electron gun design that will produce a more focused electron beam and direct it at a phosphor screen. Then, using magnetic deflection coils and a simple sweep generator and vertical amplifier, I'll be able to make my own oscilloscope from scratch. Combined with my planned analog computer, it would make for a true 1950s computing experience!

However, to hold the homebuilt cathode ray tube in the enclosure will require precision metalwork that I do not currently have to tools for. With a laser cutter, I would be able to use a computer to design an enclosure and electron tube mount that would allow me to demonstrate my analog computer/cathode ray tube wherever I need to. In the future, I also plan to improve the oscilloscope to make it into a simple television set. The electronics are not too complex, and Jon Stanley designed a circuit that he used to display television images on his oscilloscope.

If this project will be successful, then I think I might just be the first amateur to ever build their own television from scratch and from commonly available parts. Some others have made their own simple televisions using already manufactured cathode ray tubes, but none so far with homemade tubes. This project is still a long way from completion, but it is possible in the relatively near future.

- Tesla coil control panel and interrupter

Apart from allowing me to machine professional-looking enclosures/control panels for my Tesla coils and external controllers like audio modulators and interrupters, the Zing laser cutter will also allow me to make the precision parts I need to put my newest mid-size DRSSTC together.

Unfortunately, with the tools I have, there is no way for me to make the precision cuts I need in order to make a good, clean-looking primary support system. My project is currently stuck with a fully wound secondary, assembled toroid, built and painted enclosure, tested half bridge and primary capacitor, but no primary coll.

2. Green Living & Technology Challenge

Experiments involving particle accelerators, vacuum systems, and high voltages often require expensive or esoteric equipment and professional assembly, but not this one!

I've been wanting to build my own fusor or small-scale accelerator for years now, but I just didn't have the money to buy parts and supplies for even a bare minimum steel or Pyrex vacuum chamber (easily several hundred dollars). However, after visiting Robert Hunt's site, teralab, and reading about how he used custom glass vacuum envelopes to perform a variety of experiments (including building his own vacuum tube triode!), I realized that a professional-grade vacuum chamber was not necessary to get started with some of those projects I've been inclined towards for years.

Unfortunately, scientific glass blowing is not quite as easy as Mr.Hunt makes it seem and proper equipment can be rare and difficult to procure (there's not too much demand for it anymore; after all, do most physicists blow their own glass vacuum chambers these days? I didn't think so =/). That's where the glass bottle comes into play. Once I watched this "5 minute fusor" video, I realized that if glass bottles and 5 minute epoxy are strong enough to hold up to a pretty decent vacuum, then maybe I wouldn't need one of those fancy custom machined steel chambers with $100 CF flanges stuck in at every possible angle that I had been dreaming of to perform some basic experiments. Thus, the wine bottle CRT was born. Other experimenters confirmed that this was possible (link, link).

This is the reason I would consider this to be a "green" project. Instead of using a large, expensive steel contraption, I used a wine bottle. Instead of using a lab grade adjustable high voltage power supply, I recycled a transformer from an old neon sign and a high voltage diode from a trashed microwave.

Sorry, it seems like some of my links were deleted for unknown reasons. I'll try to get them back as soon as I figure out what went wrong!

Step 13: In The Future....

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With the success that this project has been, I am planning on publishing a series of vacuum experiments, starting with an oscilloscope you can build from scratch using a cathode ray tube similar to the one I describe here. Later projects I hope to share include spectrum tubes and a plasma-only Farnsworth fusor (ion multipactor) built from simple components.

I am also working on a Kickstarter project to gather funds for a larger particle accelerator that I hope to take to ISEF. The goal is my project is to design and build a modular, open-source accelerator that can be assembled for under $1000 by high school or college students.
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Pyrophoric3 years ago
When one takes a doorknob to accelerate particles it's... glorious.
kelseymh3 years ago
This is outstanding. One of the best at-home particle physics projects I've seen on I'bles (neither the cyclotron nor the fusion reactor have writeups :-).

Thanks especially for including the (non-relativistic) physics background!
PabloB1yesterday

Its 5 pascals enough vacuum???

This is a very good instructable.

One question though. Any problems with implosion of the wine bottle while you were experimenting?

fmarquis made it!12 days ago

Cool and easy build!

I used one of those new plastic cork. I drilled a hole, used a barbed connector and a copious amount of epoxy.

Of note, the bottle was still containing a few drops of water and it refused to work until the vacuum pump had forced all the water to evaporate.

Over time, I've seen many hues of blue, red, orange...

The power comes from a simple flyback transformer driven by 12v and a 555 oscillator.

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7C32 months ago

Could this be powered with a van de graaff generator? I'm new to doing these types of projects and am thinking this might be a safer option (thinking about amps).

Ninjakaib2 years ago
You should have got your vacuum pump from here:http://viot.us/HVAC/product_info.php?products_id=43. It was only about 160 dollars. Also, how much did the neon sign transformer cost you. I got my wine bottle for free.

hi ninja .. your link give me error

so can you give another link

i got one of the same rating for $15 plus $18 shipping, the trick is to find a used non-GFI unit on ebay that is still guarunteed working,and buy from a top rated seller.
(referring to the Neon Sign Transformer)
nak5 months ago

Very cool :)

I ran across this crowdfunding platform a while back: https://experiment.com/

It might be useful? I think I saw some other more science oriented crowd funding sites elsewhere too.

EmilyBug428 months ago

May I please have a list of materials? I am aspiring particle physicist and would like to do this.

Thank you!

chris03179610 months ago
I would just like to know how far you've gotten with your open-source accelerator.
You should try to focus the beam with an electromagnet :)
jebersole1 year ago
Would it be possible to attach the anode to the bottom of the bottle?
egarcia151 year ago
Can I use copper for the anode?
That is intriguing - thanks, Xellers!
jcahill21 year ago
How could I do this project using different variables?
Could you use fluorescent highlighters for different color ray tubes instead of the phosphors from a fluorescent tube?
does this not produce large amounts of x-rays?
Xellers (author)  makincoolstuff3 years ago
Nope - they don't have enough energy to penetrate the chamber with the acceleration voltage I'm using. Your concern is addressed in the safety step.
oh yeh, thats stupid of me. so is prolonged exposure to soft x-rays dangerous? and is using a fridge pump for vacuum and 30kv+ dangerous?
Xellers (author)  makincoolstuff3 years ago
Prolonged exposure to any type of x-ray radiation is dangerous, but this produces very little and should not be operated for long periods of time. You won't be able to get 30kV of acceleration potential with only a fridge pump.
I wasn't able to detect any x-rays whatsoever coming off of my tube. I guess I was using a little lower voltage (a 6kv NST). Either way there is either no or negligible amounts of radiation coming off of this. I even tried reversing the polarity so the metal vacuum port was being bombarded with electrons (this is basically how ex-ray tubes work) and still no radiation was detected. For good measure I measured background for 5 min. and then turned the tube on and measured another 5 min. for each test. In no cases was the latter measurement higher than the former by a statistically significant amount (in fact a couple times it was lower).
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ok, thanks for replying, so does that mean i wont be able to do this experiment with a fridge pump?
Xellers (author)  makincoolstuff3 years ago
You can certainly try, but I doubt it - you can definitely make a simple gas discharge tube, but I don't think it will full enough vacuum for good cathode rays.
what pressure is the running at? because i have seen videos of people getting fridge pumps to works at 20millibar (10 torr)
Use an air compressor in reverse!? I know that works good.
a fridge pump is an air compressor!
I mean one of those air compressors you use for air powered tools and all, there quite different in design. I am not sure which one works the best for drawing vacums.
kleomenid2 years ago
Sorry to sound like a bit of an airhead, but what is the function of the diode?
The diode prevents half of the AC wave from going through it, effectively converting the AC from the NST to DC to power up the tube.
vastargazer2 years ago
Are you still checking this thread? I would love to ask you a few questions about building a smaller version with my son for science fair.
ncortiz2 years ago
thank you ,
for the help,to make this very interesant project.
p1gnone2 years ago
Scientific American, Amateur Scientist [column] October 1967 had a sputtering project. As I am assembling needed components I was also learning of Crookes Dark Space. SO I happened on your very nice project. Hard to find in print, but this guy put all the archives on his webpage. If you remember this as fondly I do then this is an incredible resource. link: jesseenterprises.net/amsci/
scientist442 years ago
this was really cool to see and interesting to me i like it alot :D
AChillyDog2 years ago
You said you used a 15 micron pump, but what is the minimum for this project?
longwinters2 years ago
It would be nice to get rid of the pump, if your seals are good you should be able to pump it down and disconnect it, (unless you like watching the process of pump down,it's quite interesting) You may get a little better vacuum if you warm the bottle to the highest temp. it can tollerate while under vac. then seal it off.

Very nice project being a person who enjoys High Voltage projects this looks like a fun one.
what isd its cost?
Higgs Boson2 years ago
Your power supply had, as well as the voltage, a 30mA output. how much does current come into this. if you had a power supply that had a much higher voltage than the one used (say along the lines of 75kV) but a very low current of less than 1mA would the accelerator even still work, and if it did would X-ray production become a concern because of the high voltage? According to the safety step harmful radiation would be a problem, but would it still be a problem with the low current?
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