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Make Vanilla Extract

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This Instructable has spawned its own site. Check out the updated article with more image galleries at www.vanillareview.com .

"Vanilla" is anything but plain! The aroma of these strange brown beans mystified the first European explorers of what is now Mexico. Vanilla continues to be one of the world's most expensive spices. This instructable demonstrates a simple process to make vanilla extract.

This instructable is, to my knowledge, the only web page with independent reviews of online vanilla vendors and pictures of their products. I hope to continue to expand the review to include all the major vendors.

Where to find what:
Introduction and Vanilla Tutorial (this page)
How to Make Vanilla Extract and Vanilla Extract Recipe .
Vanilla Review: Amadeus Trading Company .
Vanilla Review: Vanilla Products USA .
Vanilla Review: Beanilla Trading Company .
Vanilla Review: The Organic Vanilla Bean Company .
Vanilla Review: VanillaFromTahiti.com
Vanilla Review: Venui Vanilla (Vanuatu)
Madagascar Planifolia Vanilla Comparison .
Longest Vanilla Bean Award .

Why make vanilla extract?
Quality vanilla is a tasty and essential cooking ingredient. It's also very expensive. By making our own extraction we get the highest possible quality product made from the absolute best vanilla beans. Considering that the FDA regulates vanilla extract by bean weight and not bean quality, you never know what you might be getting with manufactured products. Your vanilla will be free of the artificial colors and vile corn sweeteners found in even high-quality vanilla extracts. Hand crafted vanilla extract is a great gift that will last a lifetime -- like a fine wine, vanilla extract matures with age.

What is Vanilla?
True vanilla flavor comes from the cured seed pod (bean) of the vanilla orchid ( Wikipedia ). The properly prepared pod contains vanillin and 100s of other flavor compounds. Vanilla orchids are the only orchids that produce an edible seed. The primary producers of vanilla beans are tropical areas: Madagascar, Indonesia, Papa New Guinea.

Planifolia vs Tahitensis
There are two distinct types of vanilla orchid:
1. Vanilla Planifolia beans have a strong, familiar vanilla flavor, it is often called 'Madagascar Bourbon'. Planifolia is the same variety grown in Mexico, but now synonymous with Madagascar.
2. Vanilla Tahitensis is a weaker vanilla with 'fruity, floral, and sweet' flavors created by the compound heliotropin . Tahitensis is a mutated form of a Planifolia orchid from Tahiti. Most Tahitensis vanilla is now grown in Papa New Guinea. This vanilla is favored by pastry chefs.

The Kill -- Mexican vs Bourbon (and Tahitian)
See the new site .

First World vs Third World
See the new site .

Choosing Vanilla Beans
Vocabulary for describing bean quality seems to vary a bit between vendors, which can make it more difficult to know exactly what you're getting. To cut through the confusion, this instructable uses the following quality labeling: Vanilla beans are graded A and B.
  • Grade 'A' beans (also called gourmet or prime). These beans are oily and moist. Really excellent beans may have vanillin crystals on the outside, these will melt back into the bean if heated. There are about 100 to 120 grade 'A' beans (6-7 inch) per pound (7.5 per oz). The beans are visually attractive so that they can be a feature ingredient in gourmet cuisine. 30% - 35% moisture content.
  • Grade 'B' beans (also called extract beans). These beans are less moist and also less attractive. But don't worry, because the flavor isn't in the water. There are about 140 to 160 grade 'B' beans (6-7 inch) per pound (10 per oz). 15% - 25% moisture content.

For the purposes of making vanilla extract, we want to use Grade B beans whenever possible. "Why?", you may ask. "Isn't gourmet always better?" NO.
  • Grade B beans have less water weight. You get more bean for the buck because you're not paying for water. This also means that less water ends up in your extract.
  • With Grade A you pay for appearance, which doesn't matter to us.
  • We get the same beans as Grade A, but at a fraction of the cost.

Gourmet is OK when extract beans are not available, but always get Grade B if you can. I received the pictured beans as a gift before doing research for this instructable. You might see Grade A beans being used where I would now use Grade B.

What is Vanilla extract?
Vanilla extract is made by transferring the flavor and aromas of vanilla beans into alcohol (usually vodka, but sometimes brandy or rum). Vodka is the alcohol of choice because it has a neutral flavor. Other liquors can be used, but they contribute flavors of their own. Commercial extracts use a neutral flavored grain alcohol (vodka), but you are free to use rum, brandy, gin, whatever. I stick to vodka because I can always add a hint of brandy or rum directly to a dish.

How many beans are used per unit of alcohol? This is an easy one - its regulated by US law. Really!

From the FDA 21CFR169 :
  • Extract is 70 proof/35% alcohol.
  • Extract contains 13.35 oz. of bean per gallon of alcohol. It seems that 13.35 oz of bean need merely to be exposed to the alcohol, not that this amount of matter is extracted/dissolved into the alcohol, I await confirmation and will update accordingly.
  • Moisture content of beans should be under 25%, more beans are required when moisture is higher.
  • Remember, the quality of the beans doesn't matter for these regulated proportions, only the weight

In plain English:
"13.35 ounces of vanilla beans per gallon of extract is single fold (single strength) vanilla extract. As most vanilla beans are ~120/pound or 7.5 beans per ounce of weight. A gallon of extract is 128 fluid ounces, so that would mean ~98 beans per gallon or SIX (6) whole beans to make ONE cup (8 fluid ounces) of single fold vanilla extract...Anyone who tells you any differently is just teaching you how to make vanilla flavored booze. " kieth - http://tipnut.com/homemade-vanilla-extract/

Take that point to heart! Recipes on the web are all over the place: some call for 1 bean in a gallon of brandy left for one year, others call for 2-4 beans per cup with 1-6 months soak time. Few come anywhere close to reaching the 'legal' requirements of an extract.

Best Extract Alcohol Concentration
A bit of definitive info on the best concentration of alcohol for extracting beans:
  • Glenn at Amadeus Trading says that his company starts off with a relatively "pure" alcohol and then adds water to get it to 35%.
  • According to this great lit review put together by Garth at Heilala Vanilla, a 1995 study showed that 10% more vanillin was extracted at 47.5% ethanol than 95% ethanol (pdf page 16).

Vanilla Bean Snobbery
Vanilla beans grow in tropical locales where they require exotic hand pollination and extended curing. This invites wine-culture snobbery and claims of terroir . Dealers and fans alike make whimsical and sometimes contradictory claims about vanillas from various regions. Take this with a grain of salt, as even food critics usually preferred imitation vanilla in a blind taste test.

Is there a huge difference? You'll have to find out for yourself, but you can get an idea by looking through the reviews in this instructable. I was skeptical at first, but I hope the reviews show that there is a big difference in the characteristics of vanilla beans from different growing regions -- and not just in smell.

Below is a list of countries that actively market 'gourmet' vanilla. There are major vanilla producing countries not included on this list. Wikipedia says China produces 10% of the world's vanilla, but I can't find anywhere to buy it.

Vanilla Tahitensis
Papua New Guinea (PNG) - Most Tahitensis vanilla is grown in PNG.
Tahiti - Only a tiny amount of vanilla is actually produced on Tahiti. Check out the new review of vanillafromtahiti.com.

Vanilla Planifolia
Madagascar - The 'classic' vanilla.
Papua New Guinea (PNG) - A lesser known, but major, vanilla producer.
Indonesia - Said to be of poor flavor and particularly suited to baking .
Mexico - Though vanilla originated in Mexico, it is no longer grown in significant quantities. Mexican vanilla beans are very expensive. Cheap tourist vanilla almost certainly isn't vanilla at all .
Hawaii - Vanilla is grown on Oahu and Maui in very small quantities. You might be able to buy a tiny bit from Huahua Farm on the Big Island.
Uganda - Large vanilla beans are grown in this African country.
Tonga - Some very interesting Planifolia beans are grown in this tiny Pacific island nation.
India - I'm working on adding some Indian vanilla beans to the review.
Vanuatu - Soon I'll add a review of extremely rare vanilla beans from this tiny Pacific Island nation.
Australia - Broken Nose Vanilla is a potential source of Australian vanilla beans.
Malaysia - Check back for a review of Malaysian beans.

Organic Beans?
Some vendors offer 'certified organic' or similarly labeled beans. Certified organic vanilla should be free of pesticides, herbicides, and other chemicals. Organic farming may also promote sustainable land practices that benefit the environment. If you want certified organic beans, make sure you are getting something thats truly 'certified organic'. Often beans are labeled just plain organic. As far as I can tell, the only vendors in this review that offer genuine certified organic vanilla beans are The Organic Vanilla Company and Amadeus Trading Company. If organic cultivation is important to you, go for it.
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step 1Supplies

This Instructable has spawned its own site. Check out the updated article with more image galleries at www.vanillareview.com. Gather these supplies to make your extract:Van…


step 2Cut beans

Cut beans in half. I cut in half so that the beans stay submerged even if they are long or the vodka level drops. You may even consider cutting them into fourths so that t…


step 3Scrape Beans

Lay your cut bean flat, exposed side up. With your knife titled at a 45 degree angle, run the knife along the bean so that it scrapes up all the goo from the inside (also c…


step 4Optional: Chop the Skins

Optionally, cut the bean skins into smaller pieces. Smaller pieces have more surface area which might yield a stronger extract. Whole and half beans tend to pile up above t…


step 5Fill bottle with beans

Stuff the cleaned bean skins and the caviar into your bottle.


step 6Fill with vodka

Fill the bottle with vodka or your choice of liquor (see Step 1).


step 7Shake...

Week 1 - Shake the bottle vigorously every day for at least the first week. Seed and cottony fibrous chunks will swirl in the bottle, this is normal. By the second or third…


step 8Filter

After 6 months it's time to clean up the extract. Why clean up the extract? It's probably a personal decision. I'd love to hear what others do. I reason that:vanilla beans…


step 9Mature

Like a fine wine, vanilla will mature and 'improve' indefinitely... or so they say. This is a good thing, because a liter of vanilla extract will last an average person dec…


step 10Vanilla Bean Reviews

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step 11Review: Amadeus Trading Company

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step 12Review: Vanilla Products USA (eBay)

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step 13Review:Beanilla Trading Company (beanilla.com)

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step 14Review: Beanilla Trading Co. (beanilla.com) Continued.....

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step 15Review: The Organic Vanilla Bean Company

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step 16Review: VanillaFromTahiti.com

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step 17Review: Venui Vanilla

Website:http://www.venuivanilla.com/Check out the pictures below and read the full review at the new site, http://www.vanillareview.com . Direct link to Venui Vanilla review.


step 18Review: Heilala Vanilla

See a full review of Heilala's vanilla beans at the new site. Check out the updated article with more image galleries at www.vanillareview.com. Website: http://www.reunionf…


step 19Arizona Vanilla Company

The new site has an extensive review of the Arizona Vanilla Company. Check out the updated article with more image galleries at www.vanillareview.com. Arizona Vanilla Comp…


step 20Broken Nose Vanilla (Australia)

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step 21Madagascar Planifolia Comparison

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step 22Longest Bean Award

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step 23Vanilla Beans of Different Origins - Where to Buy...

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Feb 11, 2009. 8:20 AMsdlanders says:
For those who use vodka to make their vanilla extract, what kind of vodka do you use?
Oct 25, 2009. 5:37 PMfriendofbillw1 says:

I use Tito's Handmade Vodka, it is produced in Austin at Texas' first and oldest legal distillery.  It's made in small batches in an old fashioned pot still by Tito Beveridge (actual name), a 45-year-old Geologist, and distilled six times. It is a little more expensive, 12.00 a pint but it is worth is as you will be using this extract for years! Good luck...
 


Apr 5, 2009. 1:10 PMpayno4 says:
The bottle in the picture above is Smirnoff, triple distilled vodka; that's what I usually have in the house, so that's what I'm using. I just received my beans and will attempt making this shortly.
Jan 1, 2008. 5:47 PMbrawns214 says:
That sounds like a fun project! Really awesome instructable too. I know it depends on where you get your beans, but it looks like a gallon of extract would require anywhere from $20-$50 dollars of beans. Is that close to accurate? Also would you consider everclear or 151 thinned down with some water. I generally don't like to use vodka as the alcohol of choice, but I'm curious how others might work.
Sep 10, 2009. 6:59 AMtotanaca says:
hello ian,
can you please tell me how i can dilute the concentration of my 95% proof vanilla extract without making it cloudy? i have tried cutting it with purifyed water, 20ml vanilla extract with 20ml water and it turned out cloudy.
thanks for your help
totanaca
Sep 9, 2009. 10:02 PMallan lew says:
Hi, i just want to know why have to scrapes up all the goo from the inside
Sep 8, 2009. 6:47 AMtotanaca says:
thank you for your informative site.
one question; the extract i made has been macerating for 3 months in 90% alcool. after reading your text i realize that at least half the alcool would've been better. i tried mixing a small quantity with purified water and the extract turned cloudy. any idea how to lower the alcool level without cloudiness?
an answer would greatly be appreciated! thanks again!
Aug 12, 2009. 11:15 AMundersaber says:
heyy, nice job with all the reviews, but i have a question...can you make this WITHOUT the vodka?? thanks for the help.
Jul 23, 2009. 10:34 PMsonaps says:
Thorough, detailed, and I can't think of a single thing that could be improved. Bravo, my good sir.
Jun 15, 2009. 12:10 PMlimkathryn says:
i saw at ebay http://www.organic-vanilla.com/servlet/StoreFront the seller says that "Use the custard for all your cooking needs, as vanilla extract cannot be used for baking because its flavor components will dissipate at about 300°F (150°C). " may i have some advice pls? vanilla extract will dissipate at that temperature? that means when we bake we dun get the vanilla flavours? some comments and advise pls.

May 9, 2009. 5:33 PMCherylTX says:
Thanks for posting this! I just ordered my madagascar vanilla beans; can't wait!
Mar 3, 2009. 8:57 PMDustwing says:
I got an order of Tahitensis grade A 6 inchers today, first time since I lived in hawaii dealing with vanilla and man..I'm impressed with this company. The speed rocks, and the beans smell great.
Jan 9, 2009. 2:12 AMCenturion_NL says:
This is saving me so much money, great tip!
Dec 25, 2008. 9:26 AMWeissensteinburg says:
I made a bottle of this for my parents...they absolutely love it!
May 29, 2008. 3:11 PMkudoskun says:
Can you use a beer bottle? (boiled clean)
Dec 16, 2008. 4:59 PMsadiemac says:
I'm planning to use brown beer bottles. Where can I get a bottle capper and caps for them? Or is there another way to seal them properly?
Dec 16, 2008. 4:19 PMmatt_sawyers says:
Just got done making my first bottle WooHoo!
Nov 20, 2008. 6:29 AMjme2008 says:
Hi, this site is so interesting and informative. I want to learn more about commercial vanilla extraction. Is there a site you can refer or a place somewhere where you learn to this. Or perhaps, you company provides a training program. =) Thanks so much.

Jan 3, 2008. 3:28 PMbhankiii says:
This is great! I knew the technique but not all the details. I'm starting now - this will make great Christmas gifts next year.
Jan 4, 2008. 10:27 PMnancihank says:
You don't really need to start vanilla now in order to give it for Christmas 2008. You can start your vanilla in September and have it ready well before time to give for Christmas. Put 6 vanilla beans, Bourbon or Tahitian, split length-wise and then cut in 1 1/2" pieces, in a clean jar with 2 cups of vodka...set it in a darken area, and shake it once a day...it will be ready in about 6 weeks...which will be plenty of time to order and receive your bottles. According to most vanilla bean grower sites, vanilla extract really should be used in about a year's time. So to give a gift with the optimum amount of time left in which to use it, make it as close to Christmas as possible.
Nancy Curtis...nancihank
Nov 16, 2008. 8:54 PMstaigerp says:
I have read both 6 beans per cup and 6 beans per 2 cups vodka. Does it matter either way? Also I am making some extract currently using 6 beans per cup. The beans are not entirely covered with the vodka. I am seeing some sediment floating that looks similar to mold, yet different as well. I would not think anything could grow in the alcohol. Is this correct? Or should I be worried about the floaters?

Thanks

Nov 18, 2008. 5:33 AMnancihank says:
Hello ian....
There is no problem with using more beans to make vanilla today if someone wishes since you can get great vanilla beans VERY cheap on ebay but as I have posted before, I have been using the original recipe for over 30 years and the vanilla turns out great. I also see no problem letting it stand longer but if you only have 6 or 8 weeks, you can get a perfectly acceptable vanilla in that amount of time. My extract has never smelled "harsh" in the first few months. Are you referring to the "vodka" small that goes away in time? That I have noticed but it does go away.

Homemade vanilla is different from commerical vanilla in that it does not have caramel color added or sugar of any kind. It is pure vanilla extract.

As I said....you CAN use more beans per 2 cups if you choose but 6 will work. Since you can get vanilla beans so much cheaper today than 30 years ago when I paid for 2 what I now pay for 30 beans, you can use more easily enough.

I have never had any kind of mold grow in my vanilla either during the process or after it is completed.

Good luck and have fun!
Nancy Curtis...nancihank
Nov 16, 2008. 10:33 PMnancihank says:
In the original recipe, which I found in a copy of Southern Living magazine over 30 years ago, it called for 6 vanilla beans into 2 cups of vodka or into 2 cups of brandy. I have always used vodka because it is so much cheaper and has no flavor of its own and works great.

I guess you could use 6 beans to 1 cup but why use that proportion when you can use 6 beans to 2 cups and end up with twice as much vanilla with half as many vanilla beans? If you use 6 beans to 1 cup of vodka, your cost is rising considerably then if you follow the original recipe directions.

You should also cut the vanilla beans into pieces approx. 1 1/2" long after you have split the vanilla beans lengthwise...that way they will be totally covered by the vodka.

The "sediment" you are seeing is definitely not mold. What you are seeing are the tiny vanilla bean pieces that are inside the larger vanilla beans, little black specks. Also, the longer the beans set in the vodka, the more the pieces swell and some times tiny slivers come off of the orginal bean pieces...not a problem though.

When your vanilla has been sitting for 6 weeks, or longer if you desire, you can strain the little specks and the larger bean pieces out when you decant into bottles for gift giving. I usually do this but I don't try to get the vanilla totally clear of all of the tiny pieces and I add at least one or two pieces of the vanilla bean back into the gift bottle. I like the way it looks. Also, after you have decanted the first batch of vanilla, you can refill the jar with 2 MORE cups of fresh vodka and let that set for 6, or more, weeks to make a second batch of vanilla. The original directions said you could get several batches of vanilla from the original 6 beans. I can usually get at least 3 batches by adding a couple of fresh beans by the third time making it. When the vanilla beans will no longer turn the vodka brown, it is time to start will all fresh beans.

And don't forget to shake the "vanilla" every few days as it is "making" during the 6 weeks.

I have been making and giving this absolutely pure vanilla since around 1974 or so and everyone I give it to, especially for the first time, are amazed that vanilla can be made at home and are very happy to have received it as a gift.

And since this vanilla is not being made for public sale, I don't think FDA regulations make a lot of difference. I can tell you that this vanilla recipe makes wonderful, full flavored vanilla that only gets stronger the longer it sets, as long as you leave the vanilla beans in the liquid, and that it does not lose flavor during baking.

Good luck and have fun!!
Nancy Curtis....nancihank

Jan 5, 2008. 5:59 AMbhankiii says:
From www.vanillaking.com:

Like fine bordeaux wines, champagne cognacs of France, and magnificent sherrys, pure vanilla extract requires slow aging in order to develop a full-bodied character. Chemical changes take place during the aging process allowing for the formation of esters from acids, which develops aromas and aldehydes, thereby producing the full complexity of the extract. These changes first become evident at three weeks after aging when the bitterness begins to diminish. Within two months, the changes become even more noticeable in taste and particularly in aroma. Our vanillas will continue to age on your shelf. When aged over six months, the character and complexity of the extract matures, producing topnote essences with smooth, rich taste.

From www.ronaldreginalds.com:

Expensive and rare as it is, we age our Pure Vanilla Extract one full year after bottling. We know of no other manufacturer who goes to this extent to develop the full richness of vanilla extract. At Ronald Reginald's, we understand the importance of this slow aging to the development of the total character of a quality Pure Vanilla Extract. Do not be misled by manufacturers who claim that their vanilla beans are aged for up to a year--this refers to the curing process and the length of time required for the beans to reach the vanilla brokers in this country.'

It's probably overkill, but I've all ready ordered the beans!

Jan 6, 2008. 10:29 PMgerrrtrudicus says:
all vanilla extract has alcohol. if you know of a alcohol-free way to make an extract, why don't you share it?
Jan 7, 2008. 4:50 AMbhankiii says:

From vanilla.com:

Q. Are there non-alcoholic vanilla extracts?

A. Yes and no. There are non-alcoholic vanillas but the FDA requires that they not be labeled Pure Vanilla Extract as they don't contain alcohol. They are usually called Pure Natural Vanilla, are made in a glycerin base and contain as much vanilla as extracts. They provide a reasonable non-alcoholic solution for flavoring foods and beverages.

You can make a vanilla infusion using pure water, if you are so inclined.

I think the confusion here is simply that the example in this thread uses 3 beans per cup and the instructable cites using 6 beans per cup, the implication being that using less vanilla makes a flavored vodka, not an extract.

I think I'll be trying both.
Jan 6, 2008. 8:58 AMdavidhammond1 says:
Vanilla extract IS vanilla flavored booze! It is NOT false vanilla information. Please explain the true method of vanilla extract manufacture.

Jan 29, 2008. 9:44 PMmrdavidlowe says:
Maybe this seems like a simple question, but where do you find good dark colored jars? I can find some cool jars with cool lids, but they are all clear. For example this site... http://www.specialtybottle.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=11


Nov 11, 2008. 10:33 PMAll Ears says:
ian,

When I didn't have a dark glass jar, I took an unmatched sock and pulled/stretched it over the jar from bottom to top and let the top part of the sock hang to the side. Sometimes I'd use a rubber band to secure the hanging part of the sock. When you want to get in the jar simply pull the sock down to expose the lid.
Feb 9, 2008. 8:48 PMunspecified says:
Oct 3, 2008. 7:55 AMclseabolt says:
Would it also be ok to use a blue bottle with the screw on cap that came with it? It was a glass sparking water bottle previously.
Oct 10, 2008. 10:24 AMmzprfkt says:
I would think it would be totally fine to use. As long as you keep the bottle in a cool dark area. I actually use small canning jars.
Oct 11, 2008. 8:20 PMclseabolt says:
Great thanks for that. I think I am going to do it this weekend....Can't wait to try it!
Oct 11, 2008. 12:39 PMAZ CANNER says:
THIS IS THE BEST WEBSITE FOR INFORMATION AND ALL ON START TO FINISH TO MAKE YOUR OWN VANILLA. I PURCHASED A PKG OF 50 ONLINE AND GOT THE MADAGASCAR BOURBAN WHICH ARE THE BEST TO USE FOR MAKING VANILLA. I HAVE 2 LGE JARS RIGHT NOW FERMENTING AND SMELLS WONDERFUL IN MY CABINETS AND THE BEANS ARE SOO FRESH NOT LIKE YOU BUY IN THE STORE. ILL BE GIVING SOME AWAY FOR HOLIDAYS IN CUTE LITTLE BOTTLES. ILL BE KEEPING THE REST FOR MYSELF.
Sep 29, 2008. 9:32 AMmzprfkt says:
Ok, I have seen a ton of different recipes for vanilla extract. I have a batch brewing now. :) Lots of thesae recipes have a water/sugar syrup that is added. Is this really necessary? Can't the vanilla just be used the way it is, beans & vodka? I noticed the storebought extract also contains sugar and water... Sure would appreciate some clarity. TIA
Sep 17, 2008. 4:42 PMKing.Cobra says:
you can make other extracts in the same manner. just replace the vanilla with citrus rind, mint, almost anything. this is good. keep it up!!!
Jul 29, 2008. 9:46 AMticadea says:
I use a brown bottle that originally had BBQ sauce in it. It has a wire bail with a ceramic stopper/rubber ring set up. I have seen green bottles that have beer in them. This is better than buying an empty bottle - recycling you know -
Apr 25, 2008. 3:18 PMneubaten says:
omg this combines two of my favourite things, vodka and vanilla!
*dances round like julie andrews*
Mar 4, 2008. 1:23 AMBoggo says:
Certainly alcohol at 35%-40% is below the optimum for vanillin extraction. I believe the correct term for the technique of infusing a herb in alcohol is tincture. The interesting thing is that each herb has an optimum alcohol % at which it extracts the best. They don't all extract at the highest strength such as 98% ethanol - some herbs extract best at 40%. We have not tested all strengths with vanilla due to the complexity of testing for vanillin. More info at http://www.reunionfood.co.nz/vanilla-research.htm

Mar 3, 2008. 3:27 AMBoggo says:
At home the beans are typically soaked (infused) in vodka or similar for about 3 months to get good flavour. Commercially we use 70% ethanol as it extracts more vanillin faster. We percolate the liquid around and around in long cylinders for 3 days and then we age in barrels for 3 months. This extract a much stronger more concentrated extract.

http://www.reunionfood.co.nz

Feb 28, 2008. 10:57 AMrawchocolatechef says:
hey thanks for great info and discussions here
just to let you know that i have certified organic sun-cured tahitian vanilla bean that i sell for $1/each
or $120/pound
i am not a retailer but buy large volumes myself since i make raw chocolate and nut mylks and have been sharing some of these prices with friends
i would be happy to extend this to anyone in this group if you're intrested

you can email me with any questions
at malcolm@superfoodfamily.com

i will aslo be posting some raw chocolate and nut and seed mylk demos on here soon, so look out for that

thanks

malcolm
www.superfoodfamily.com
Feb 21, 2008. 8:01 PMfionavanilla says:
I have just been reading your instructable on vanilla extract. If you are interested in further research into vanilla beans from different suppliers and places, you should visit vanilla.com
Did you know, for example, that vanilla is now being produced in tropical Australia?

Also, I have a query. We are one of the new producers of vanilla in Australia. As we are nearing the point where we will have enough beans to process, we need to build/buy an extraction machine for commercial purposes. I wonder whether you have any recommendations or pointers?

Many thanks - enjoyed the ride...

Fiona
Broken Nose Vanilla - a real mean bean!
Far North Queensland
Australia
Feb 19, 2008. 10:50 AMlyricmama says:
You call for "dark" bottles and I see the suggestion for AMBER bottles from SpecialtyBottles.com but I'm wondering if COBALT bottles would do as well. I'd like to make this in a large batch and give as Christmas gifts but would like to purchase "interesting" bottles for my recipients.

Also, I'm assuming that it would be important to be sure that the bottles are lead-free, right? Because many "pretty" cut glass bottles sold at discount stores contain lead. So I'd assume that it's important to be sure that the bottles are lead-free as there could be a risk of lead leaching into the extract if using a bottle that is unlabeled... yes?
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