Design and Build a Full Tang Knife by atomicturkey27
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Building your own tools can be a great thing and knives are no exception. From the caveman times to Bear Grylls, knives have been an essential part of outdoor survival and just basic utility and around the house use. This Instructable is a basic guideline for making your own unique survival tool that will be suited to your use and designed to your specifications. Also, if you use recycled materials like I did, your knife should be practically free! This is obviously not the only way to make a knife. There are many other tried and true techniques, but this it what i have found to work best. If you don't find all parts helpful, pick and choose. develop your own basic style and make it work best for you. This could take one knife or it could take ten, but keep at it. A tool that you have made is truly a joy to behold. And just because I don't want to get in trouble is people hurt themselves: Knives are tools but also can be weapons. Treat them with extreme care and respect them. Making sharp pointy things has an inherent danger to it so use common sense. Also, dull knives are more dangerous than sharp ones. Forcing a dull knife will increase the chance of slipping and that's bad, even with a dull knife. Ok, I'm done ranting. On to the important part!
 
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Step 1: Designing the Knife: Materials

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The first step in making most things is a design and the same holds true to knives. To design my knives, I use graph paper, a metal ruler, a French curve, and a normal pencil. Also, since I use found metal for my knives, I like to have the metal in front of me so I know what I have to work with.
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Dave.D.Messermacher says: Nov 27, 2012. 2:42 PM
@The Metal One: 1020 is "sub-par to worthless" for knives. You will be much better off with a steel that has a carbon percentage above 0.7%. The second two numbers in the 10xx series steels stand for the carbon percentage (1020 is 0.2% carbon, 1080 is 0.8%, etc.) also, the heat treat regimen you prescribe will harden only a few, if any, types of steel.
The Metal One says: Jul 30, 2011. 5:46 PM
your knives will be sub-par to worthless unless you use a carbon steel (such as 1020 1/8 inch plate stock) and then heat treat it by heating the blade to 800 degrees for an hour then quenching in oil. otherwise i love your design, you did well with materials on hand. good work ;)
atomicturkey27 (author) says: Aug 6, 2011. 8:29 AM
For my more recent knives I've been using A2 or O1 tool steel. These steels contain elements like chromium that greatly improve wear resistance, which makes them a great choice for knives. Also, many of the exotic woods make really excellent knife handles. I've found that purpleheart works quite well, although it is difficult to machine.
Dave.D.Messermacher says: Nov 26, 2012. 7:45 PM
How are you doing your heat treat? I am wondering as those steels (specifically the A2) are quite difficult to heat treat.
Ssosah95 says: Oct 12, 2012. 6:38 AM
Just one question, where can i get the steel for the knife?
Dave.D.Messermacher says: Nov 26, 2012. 7:42 PM
I use 1084 from NJSteelBaron.com.
Dave.D.Messermacher says: Nov 26, 2012. 7:40 PM
Although your method will produce a serviceable knife, you will get infinitely better results if you start with a known steel (my favourite is 1085), file out your profile and bevels, and harden by heating to slightly above the point where a magnet will no longer stick and quenching in canola oil. The reason I use 1085 is because it is extremely simple to heat treat as it requires no soak.
Emsaid says: Sep 25, 2012. 9:31 AM
Great ible! Here's a picture of mine, I made them out of an old saw blade from a skill saw! They polished up great!
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th30be says: Oct 2, 2012. 5:32 PM
Wow. The shine is amazing. How did you do this?
Emsaid says: Oct 2, 2012. 7:22 PM
Basically the same as atomicturkey27 did. But then used different grade sand paper to get the big scratches out and then finally a buffing wheel! I was surprised out how well they came out. Glad you like them!
th30be says: Oct 4, 2012. 6:07 AM
It looks amazing. Honestly, I would love to buy one off of you I like it so much. With the sand paper, did you just keep going up in grade every time you felt it was necessary?
Emsaid says: Oct 6, 2012. 8:25 AM
Thanks! dont know if I wanna sell them yet, maybe if I make some more! but yeah I just sanded it forever, making sure i go every little scratch out.
felix minowa says: Aug 18, 2012. 4:08 PM
hey! I made a knife like your!
here's photos of me making the knife and the finished image
sorry for my english , im brazilian
thanks for the tutorial! make more!
felix minowa says: Aug 18, 2012. 4:19 PM
i cant send the images! fuuuu!
how i send it?
felix minowa says: Aug 18, 2012. 4:18 PM
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hrenthegreat says: Feb 2, 2012. 4:33 PM
If you dont mind me asking, what steel is used? and would a dremel with a metal cutting wheel be able to replace the edge grinder?
The Rambler says: Mar 9, 2012. 1:16 PM
I almost asked the same question, but then I looked at the pictures in step 4 more closely and it appears to be made out of a saw blade, which is pretty cool. I'm curious about how stiff the blade is. I know some saw blades are flimsy, but that one appears to be a miter or backsaw blade which is usually stiffer.

If you're just using the dremel to cut out the shape of the blade it should work as long as the metal you're using for the knife isn't too thick. It will take a while though, and you might go through quite a few cutting wheels.
Emsaid says: Jul 22, 2012. 6:52 PM
You can save a lot of cutting wheels if you only cut half way through the metal, then clamp it in a vice and whack it with a hammer. If done right it should snap apart! This makes it go a lot faster but only works with higher carbon metals.
notwally says: Jul 16, 2012. 9:08 AM
I don't think some of the people here understand that your metal is already heat treated. "This blade was made from an old backsaw blade" . This metal was already heat treated (tempered) at the factory when the original tool was made.

This is the reason knife makers *use* old saw blades, files, leaf springs, and the like to make high quality carbon steel blades. The heat treating has already been professionally done.

As for the handle finish, atomicturkey27's method seems to work for him. If you want something different, go for it. "Your mileage may vary".

You don't *have* to finish it at all. If you use it regularly, your natural hand oils will eventually give it a finish.

Personally, I'm partial to Tung Oil. Quick, easy, and forgiving. I use it on all my hand whittled walking sticks because it really brings out the look of the wood without covering it up.

But you could just dunk it in some "Tool Dip".

BTW atomicturkey27, Great Instructable. Thank you.
I'm re-designing a knife (an old cheap machete cut in half long ways. Super Pig Sticker!) and your info showed me how to properly put on the handles. I was spinning wheels until now. Thanks again!
Kelticpaddler says: Apr 19, 2012. 9:00 AM
If this was a truly functional knife, you would harden the blade before fitting the handles, thus making it almost impossible to drill through.

Ideally, drill the holes in the "tang" before hadening. Then harden, anneal, glue on one scale and drill the hole through from the exposed tang. Then glue the second scale on and drill through from the first scale.
triumphman says: Apr 18, 2012. 2:10 PM
What the h--- are you saying?
woodNfish says: Oct 7, 2010. 4:02 PM
Very nice knife. My grandfather made knives out of old saw blades too. Tool steel takes a nice edge. I see one problem though and that is using danish oil with polyurethane. The oil never truly dries and I am fairly certain that will prevent the poly from fully curing. Poly alone should be enough.
atomicturkey27 (author) says: Oct 7, 2010. 4:43 PM
I gave the oil 24 hours to set, which was the time recommended on the can. It said that you could follow up with wax or poly to achieve a nicer finish. Also, the main purpose of the oil was to darken the wood. I found that it gives the wood a nice rich color and brings out the long grain that is present in oak.
tkjtkj says: Oct 9, 2010. 7:08 AM
Doesn't the oil also help prevent water from permeating the wood? That's why i 'mineral oil'
my kitchen cutting boards, salad bowls, etc ..

and ya, 'pharmacy-grade' mineral oil is edible, but never give it to someone who has difficulty swallowing: if it gets into the lung: big big problems!
triumphman says: Apr 18, 2012. 2:07 PM
More B.S.!
woodNfish says: Oct 9, 2010. 2:55 PM
atomicturkey27, You can get poly in various shades that will stain the wood if you like. Minwax has quite a variety, and poly brings out the grain too.

tktkj: Poly seals the wood against moisture. You use mineral oil on cutting boards because it is non-toxic. It doesn't have to be "pharmacy-grade" which is something I've never heard of and is probably a marketing gimmick. You should not use polyurethane, varnish, and other finishes on cutting boards.
tkjtkj says: Oct 10, 2010. 6:29 PM
ya but there really is a need for a 'pharmacy grade' mineral oil .. Ya see, it's used medically as a laxative, but there are a bunch of issues that must be explained to any patient to use it safely. Having a 'USP' (US Pharmacopea) formulation lets users or care-givers to be able to read the label. Misuse can kill a patient!
And i do say 'formulation' not simply 'packaging' cuz the USP offering contains a 'stabilizer' (Vit. E , actually) ... If you've the interest i can send ya the medical info. I also doubt that the users of the 'paint store' variety would be concerned much were there to be some infectious agent or two in the batch. Knife handles need not be sterile .. Cutting boards should not be contaminated so i'd strongly advise people to use the USP version in the kitchen where food contact occurs .. including the lubricating of blender blade bearings!
triumphman says: Apr 18, 2012. 2:12 PM
YA BUT ?
triumphman says: Apr 18, 2012. 2:07 PM
B.S.
woodNfish says: Oct 10, 2010. 7:21 PM
Honestly tkjtkj, I don't think it makes a difference. I buy my mineral oil at the grocery store. The hardware store doesn't carry it.
tkjtkj says: Oct 11, 2010. 12:56 PM
Ok, fair enough .. but please do understand that many people could do that only with grave danger to themselves or others. One could even propose that a prescription should be required, so important are the warnings on the drug store label!
One can easily die by not having read them.
My prescription suggestion is based on fact that so many elderly (who do have more intestinal problems) can't even read the small print on the pharmacy formulation... it can be life-saving for them to be told by some practitioner how mineral oil is to be used and how misuse can result in a very very bad thing.

As far as we know, death is a one-way street.
Apparently enough professionals recognize these issues and do require that at the least, a USPharmacopia version of the product be available.
triumphman says: Apr 18, 2012. 2:12 PM
"Then let them die, and reduce the surplus population", Ebeneezer Scrooge.
triumphman says: Apr 18, 2012. 2:06 PM
too much rhetoric!
woodNfish says: Oct 11, 2010. 5:45 PM
Okay tkjtkj, but what's your point? You can find info about food safe finishes in any woodworking magazine and plenty of online woodworking sites.

>>Apparently enough professionals recognize these issues and do require that at the least, a USPharmacopia version of the product be available.

No they don't. I'm telling you - it is a marketing gimmick, nothing more. I'm sure they charge you more for the same product too. Sorta like shampoo from the olcal market versus shampoo from a beautician. The beautician will overcharge you every time.
Brazilian Saber Tooth says: Mar 2, 2012. 2:07 PM
Thank you!

So that 's how it is done?!

I 'll never pay for that again...rs
triumphman says: Dec 15, 2011. 8:06 AM
See my knives from metal and non-metal polymer on my instructables. Triumphman.
ghost999 says: Dec 6, 2011. 11:45 AM
you sould use oil.
ghost999 says: Dec 6, 2011. 11:40 AM
Sould i use camo duck tape on the handle for when i go hunting.
2Sharp says: Nov 3, 2011. 5:01 PM
It's not a big deal nor expensive to get either brass or nickel-silver bolsters as well as guards and pins online. There are more than a few shops online who sell knifemaking supplies at very reasonable prices including the shipping. I have ordered pins and guards as well as a couple of thumb studs to replace lost ones on some of my folding knives.
Most hardware stores I have been in carry brass and aluminum rod for welding and other applications. The brass rod for example can be cut into lengths for use as brass pins to hold the handle on.
I have just started making custom knives as a hobby which I enjoy and if someone is interested in getting started, there are many helpful instructional videos as well as books on making knives nowadays.
My own personal suggestion is getting a DIY kit online or from a knifemaking supply store if there is one near you and putting one together, refurbish a broken or old knife or customize an existing knife. This will familiarize you with the tools and give you an idea of what goes into knife construction.
Then you can progress to complete customization including learning how to forge your own blades or if you prefer you can use the material removal method, there are advantages and disadvantages to both methods.
It's satisfying to make a knife which is unique and has all the features you like in a blade! Good Luck!
bobthebuilder728 says: Oct 3, 2011. 8:56 PM
Check out my knives made from circular saw blades
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