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Desulfator for 12V Car Batteries, in an Altoids Tin

Step 8Update:

It's been over a month now and I'm happy to report that my desulfator circuit is working well! My battery now charges to over 13.4 volts after a full charge. Before desulfator treatment it would not rise beyond 12.7 volts. This is a very good sign meaning that the plates are now much cleaner, the electrolyte is now contacting their full surface area, and that full electricity production has been restored. I kind of wish I could verify this visually but I can't due to the battery being a sealed type. For now, I'll have to be satisfied with just reading the improvement in my voltmeter.

Some notes:

1. During testing I found that my charger has no real trickle rate mode and instead stops the charge entirely when it decides that enough charge has entered the battery. Call it an idle state instead of a trickle rate. If left like this, after a full charge the battery voltage will slowly drop to about 12.2 volts within a week or so (further if I let it), which I assume is a reflection of the battery's natural decay rate plus the amount of charge being consumed by the circuit itself. I therefore, every few days, top off the battery by turning the charger's power switch off, then on again to restart the high charge rate.  A few hours later I make sure that the red LED has turned off and the green LED has turned on meaning that the charger has finished the charge and gone back to its idle state. The desulfator is then free to do its thing without interference from the charger.

2. There is a marked drop in pulse peak voltage from about 50 volts, measured at fuse F1, to about 36 volts measured at the battery. This is due to losses in the cabling going to the battery. You can limit these losses by keeping the cables as thick and as short as possible. 12 or even 10 ga wire is not too thick as long as you can solder it and it is flexible enough to not make the circuit unwieldy. If you use thinner wire just know that the circuit will still work but that the reduced voltage at the battery will take longer to recondition it. My thanks to DRZCYY for bringing this to my attention.

3. Use of wire loops to hold down the two coils can simulate a shorted winding in the coils and result in slightly reduced output. It's best to use plastic or nylon tie wraps for this purpose. My thanks to EDTEK for this tip.

I'm working on some improvements to the design and hope to offer a printed circuit board in the near future. Check back here for further updates.
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8 comments
Feb 23, 2011. 11:04 AMrumburac says:
thank you i will try this ! thank s again!
Oct 29, 2009. 9:50 PMalex young says:
One question . should  the led be constantly or should it blink on and off.
Oct 31, 2009. 5:43 PMalex young says:
thank u for your information on the led . Next week I will tell u the result. keep up the good work. How do I know that a cell is shorting or damaged beyond repairings so i dont wast time testing my circuit on such a battery ?????
Nov 2, 2009. 5:27 AMalex young says:
thank you i will try this now
Oct 29, 2009. 8:51 PMalex young says:
Thank u for your support Kmpres I really appreciate your response. Really my entire circuit was really running hot the Fet and expecially the diode . I had to put the fet on heat sink and it was still hot so tomorrow I will adjust R2 as u say to get things a little cooler until I get the right coils in. I am so anxious to get my circuit working I will let u know of my progress . Keep up the good work
Oct 28, 2009. 8:48 PMalex young says:
Thank u for your response on the coil dimension I will try to build them . Does the core have  to be circular like a donut and I am not too sure i understand how much is the diameter of this core please give me some more understanding on this. Well I still hear my circuit making the sound but dont know if it is working because i dont have a scope Thank u for your  support
Oct 28, 2009. 9:54 AMalex young says:
Hi how is everybody I have built the desulfator circuit but I am not sure it is the right coils I have used . I just got some coils out of computer powersupplys. Could someone tell me how to wind the coils . It is hard to import this into my country but we have a lot of  junck  electronic stuff here we can work from. Could u tell me how do I know when the circuit is working , I hear the sound but I dont know what is happening there . Please send me an email to  ayoung_585@yahoo.com because i have posted  a comment here and i have not received an answer. Thank you
Oct 22, 2009. 6:04 PMKarl22685993 says:
hello kmpres,
we are 2 amazed friends of your project working with  renewable energies in nicaragua.
the lots of  wastebatteries that are piling up made us looking for a solution.
the problem we are facing here is that almost noting of the parts used an be buoght in a store.
we have taken all the parts so far from pc-boards and the coils from power-supplies of computers.
here are some questions which we thank you if you would answer to us:
1. we only have found toroid coils with a yellow plastic coating, do you have any suggestion about how manny windings and what wire diam. could work?

2. there are no LOW ESR capacitors to get here, not even from old boards.
can we prevent overheating using 2 or 3 normal electrolitic capacitors in parallel??

3. without osciloscope, how can we determine the pulse voltage?

thanks again for your tips
martin and karl-gunnar


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