Introduction: Digital TV Converter Hack

Learn how to mod/hack a DTV box to run on battery power! Now that the digital TV conversion is right around the corner, no one has put any thought into what happens to your old analog portable TV's since ALL of the DTV boxes are AC powered. What about camping? What about emergencies when you want to watch news/weather alerts and have NO power? Here's the solution.


Step 1: What You Need...

Step 2: Make the Connection...

Remove the 5 small screws that hold the case top cover on.
There is a 5-pin connector located between the power supply and the main board. Directly next to the connector on the power supply you will see two small jumpers. This is where to make the solder connections for the Positive (+) and Negative (-) wires. Use a multimeter to confirm this location with the unit plugged in and you should get a reading of 12VDC. I attached two wires (red (+) and black (-) about 4 inches long.

Step 3: Make the External Connectors

Using the barrier strip, mount it to the back of the case using two screws and nuts. I had to cut away the lower portion of the barrier strip to make room for mounting it vertically. Drill one more small hole to feed the red and black wires through. Attach the 12V Car Power Adapter and the new red and black wires to two of the barrier strip screws, one on top and one on the bottom with the barrier in between to protect the contacts.

Step 4: Finished!

Close up the case and plug in your new battery powered DTV box into a cigarette lighter or hook up the 12 volt battery to the remaining barrier strip screws. Make your A/V or Coax connections, hook up your antenna and you now have DTV for your portable TV's!

I hope you enjoyed this Instructable.!

Comments

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DonkeyTeeth (author)2016-05-07

Its like all kind and polite people in the world have disappeared....the old saying has been forgotten,if you have nothing nice to say...shut yo damn face hole...what comes around goes around!

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ali6359 (author)2016-01-30

my converter box mesures 5v. i put a usb cable to it i am able to power it using my laptop, a usb charger brick or a portable battery charger.

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DonkeyTeeth (author)2015-11-20

has anyone told this dude about these things called "cell phones"?

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ali6359 (author)DonkeyTeeth 2016-01-30

this was in 2009.

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Stickerbush (author)2015-03-15

Very cool....just finished up a couple boxes I had stashed away..nifty little hack! kudos

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crfive_0 (author)2010-07-17

This is awesome. Somebody PLEASE help me find an Instructable doing this exact same thing but to a LCD Computer Monitor??? I desperately need to run a monitor off 12v efficiently and i dont want to use a power inverter, Just like this tutorial, it would be pointless to turn DC to AC just so the component would then turn AC back to DC to run itself... HELP!

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3of5 (author)crfive_02015-02-09

Try something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coby-TFTV1022-10-2-Widescr...

Just adapt the cables to accept the 12 volt car input, there are other solutions out there, but I think this would be the solution that doesn't have wires hanging all over the place.

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ElvenChild (author)2011-01-24

does your portable tv have A/V in?

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abadfart (author)ElvenChild2012-06-15

i think he used the coax out and the external antenna input

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3of5 (author)abadfart2015-02-09

You can also use the antenna out and hook it to the external antenna, I have done that with a portable TV from '85. Worked better than I thought it would.

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Cameron657 (author)2010-07-20

Awesome! 5/5

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static (author)2009-11-08

 I just pop the hood on a Digital Stream DTX 900 converter sold by Radio Shack.  This was purchase early on before analog pass through was mandated, I doubt this unit is still sold, and my discovery may not hold true with current Digital Stream Products YMMV. To my dismay the silk screen on the circuit board reads as follows. GND 5.5V GND3.3V GND. I well I do have a 75 W. inverter to use though that's overkill for a 7 W. load. Back to the drawing board on this project.

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Computothought (author)static2010-06-03

Mine is the same. I can get an inverter for under 10 dollars. I might go that way. an lm3940, 7805, plus parts could fit on a board that could go inside to replace the existing ps board.

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static (author)Computothought2010-06-09

Yes; if the regulators can dissipate the heat that is an option to consider, that hadn't dawned on me at all. While the heat is wasteful, it may be less wasteful than using an off the shelf inverter to power the box. Where battery operation is inferred here, wasted power is a consideration.

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Yerboogieman (author)2009-03-27

So does a DTV box give you better reception also?

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ReCreate (author)Yerboogieman2009-03-27

Erm..no?

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Yerboogieman (author)ReCreate2009-03-28

You just ruined my wish of having good reception from an antenna.

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ReCreate (author)Yerboogieman2009-03-28

You will keep the same reception

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Yerboogieman (author)ReCreate2009-03-28

Kipkay's video is deceiving....

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ReCreate (author)Yerboogieman2009-03-28

You mean misleading...right?

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Yerboogieman (author)ReCreate2009-03-28

Yeah, i couldn't think of the word. Don't they mean the same, as on dictionary.com?

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Mr. Squishy (author)Yerboogieman2009-03-29

Ugh, DTV boxes will give you better reception with any antenna. To get better reception, you can get a new DTV or HDTV antenna. You can also move your antenna outdoors.

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osgeld (author)Mr. Squishy2009-04-08

Its double sided, channels that come in are of course digital clear, but channels that dont come in well will pause, and break up so like in my case channel 8 (pbs) used to come in a little snowy but totally watchable, now with dtv i mostly get a black screen and every once in a while a screwed up still image will pop in to frame

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thebriguy (author)osgeld2010-02-23

Agreed w/Osgeld - and they don't seem to work when moving. Is the signal wave length incompatible with a moving tuner? I tried a portable TV w/ a built in digital tuner and a rigged set top dtv converter on my minivan's entertainment system and both work when stationary, but freak out/break up & freeze when moving.
Any suggestions regarding how to fix this problem.

I wanted another portable entertainment option for the kids and I'd love the weather radar station in my van so I can plan commutes better. Also, my wife dreams of doppler in her car - she's a weather freak (but I don't want to pay a monthly fee for a dedicated device (like used on boats/ships)

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static (author)Yerboogieman2009-11-06

 deceiving, misleading how? The converter box operates on 12 VDC battery power, what was the entire point of this instructable. The only comment on signal reception was "the signal is great".

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Steamdnt (author)2010-01-01

 IS that a 7805 by the PSU? if it is, It could be run on 5volts rather than 12 with its removal. 

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Last_Liberal (author)2009-03-21

What are you using for an antenna?

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Kipkay (author)Last_Liberal2009-03-22

I used a standard VHF/UHF/FM backup antenna I have in my attic. I believe when the switcheroo occurs in June you will need an HD antenna. You can get those at RS or online. Around $30.

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osgeld (author)Kipkay2009-03-22

i have these things too, and as far as i understand you can use your normal antenna's after the full switch, but it may need an amplifier

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welder guy (author)osgeld2009-10-05

amps do nothing. you cant get what your antenna cant recive.

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osgeld (author)welder guy2009-10-05

wellllllllllll when we moved out of the downtown area we could not pick up any channels, getting a +26db amplified antenna and we get most channels so it did not do nothing, infact it made a dramatic difference from jack squat to almost back to normal

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static (author)osgeld2009-11-06

 LOL! Well of course amplifiers have been alway been an important part of total systems I suspect welder guy was being lazy with the pat response, that "sounded good" or not very experienced in this area. Glad too read you found a solution that's working for you. I haven't turn on my TV, since I turned it one after te switch in Feb. to find that I was too far away. Before the snow flies I hope to get a better antenna AND amplifier installed installed. 

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static (author)welder guy2009-11-06

Osgeld said simply  " you may need an amplifier", and that's certainly true as far as it goes, no need to confuse the issue by implying something was said that wasn't. Amps do DO something. They can increase a weak signal received by the antenna to a level that's usable by the receiving equipment. Given the all or nothing nature of digital, combined with station that where formerly on VHF switched to UHF and many VHF and UHF transmitters required to reduce power at the change over, chances are we will be seeing amps employed more than ever for those who have to rely on broadcast TV.

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Last_Liberal (author)osgeld2009-03-29

The HD band is strictly UHF. If you have a normal VHF/UHF rooftop antenna, it'll still work, but most of it will be unused and its ability to draw in UHF signals make not be as good as a standard HD antenna. I use an old pair of rabbit ears with one converter box in my bedroom. I keep the VHF rods collapsed because they have no effect. The UHF works reasonably enough to pickup DTV, but I must constantly adjust it to pickup a signal with select stations. I wrote about much of this on my own "Battery powered DTV system" instructable last November.

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Wolfshifter (author)Last_Liberal2009-04-06

Not all digital channels will be HD and some will still use VHF... I have at least one station I know of that is going to still be on VHF after the transition. Weird, huh?

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osgeld (author)Wolfshifter2009-10-05

yea its both here, fiddling with the "fine tuning" on the antenna sometimes vhf needs it sometimes uhf

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ironsmiter (author)Wolfshifter2009-07-08

I've found that the antenna from the portable tv works just fine for dtv reception. not the best, but simple. portable, and free. In the portables I've used, the antenna is physically, and electrically connected with only one screw. After it's out, it becomes rather simple to connect a short cable to the antenna, and connect to the box. A good solder job, and some epoxy directly to the coax connector, and you can even rotate the antenna for storage/deployment.

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biggybilly (author)Kipkay2009-04-17

Dear Kipkay, Re. your RCA DTV , I had already bought a Magnavox-Funai tuner model TB100MG9, and can't locate a 12v DC power supply output, it appears it might have more than one operating voltage as there are 2 sets of 4 diodes and what looks like a transformer with multple secondaries, and I'm scared to randomly poke around with my VOM. Can youAssist me?

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ironsmiter (author)biggybilly2009-07-08

your power supply circuit probably has at least 5 volt, 12 volt, and grounds. possibly a 3.3 volt also. Best bet is, relegate that box to normal tv usage. Go and get another box, from a different manufacturer, and try again. If you get one that uses a 5volt input. DTVPal is one such box. You can then hack a simple cellphone charger for the 12V(12-16 automotive voltage) to 5 volt converter circuit. Then, you don't even need to open the box. just put the circuit board into a project box, and wire it to the necessary connectors.

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Mr. Squishy (author)Kipkay2009-03-27

You don't need an HD antenna. It said that on http://dtv.gov

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The 4th Doctor (author)2009-03-23

This thing would easily run off of 12AA probably even AAA just thought i would mention that

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static (author)The 4th Doctor2009-11-06

 You would only need 8 or 10 to get 12 V., depending on what kind of batteries you are using.

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The 4th Doctor (author)static2009-11-06

woops typo

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Kipkay (author)The 4th Doctor2009-03-25

Yes it would but not for very long at all.

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The 4th Doctor (author)Kipkay2009-03-25

D cells should last it a good while what is this 30 watts, maybe 4 hours

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MACKattacksnipe (author)2009-10-24

im using banana plugs for power

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static (author)MACKattacksnipe2009-11-06

 Banana plugs have the same drawback, that Kipkay's method has. A live wire to pop fuses.  A coaxial power connectors solve that problem, and many already have 12 VDC power cables terminated in a coaxial plug. Where Anderson power poles are becoming the standard in the emcomm world, I may use a power pole receptacle or re- purpose the AC power cord removing the AC plug for power pole connectors. Yes that would remove the AC power option. In the end   the simple solution is to buy a converors that use external 12VDC supplies, find them here www.ezdigitaltv.com/Additional_Features_Matrix.html

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welder guy (author)2009-10-05

hey kipkay im huge fan of your youtube videos and had a question, do you have ANY dtv box scematics. i cant find any on the web and would like to build a dtv circuit in a rs project box. i think the dtv boxes are so big is because they want it to fit on top of your tv. what about handheld tv's. plus i could make it battery powerd

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static (author)welder guy2009-11-06

 While YMMV, but it only costs time to try use this www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/  to look up the FCC ID number of an existing converter box, often the searches lead to schematics. In that the converter circuits use embedded computers/software, I really doubt any chances of success of trying to use any schematics of  a commercial product found or the ability to decrease the size much at all. Pause the video. Even if you removed the power supply section the RF modulator area looks to take up 25-40% of the remaining area. Simply removing the power supply dection of this RCA and modifying the cabinent accordingly would make it much more compact at  a much less cost, but of course you would loss the AC operability option.

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geeklord (author)2009-03-25

Wow, that is the exact same box that my family has! One broke so I got it. The sound stopped working on it, but the picture was fine. The other box that we got does the opposite; the sound works but not the picture. It only does this every once in a while, but the other one's problem seemed to be permanent. The power supplies in them are nice, mine was rated up to 1 amp. Anyone have an idea why the one broke, and why mine had a 4 pin power supply connector?

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