Step 2: Distillation
The First and only step is to pour about one teaspoon of salt into you cup. Next pour three teaspoons of Hydrogen Peroxide on top of it. This mixture can be enlarged but remember to keep the solution at a ratio of 1:4. 1 being the salt and 4 being the Hydrogen Peroxide. After you have added all ingredients stir them together inside the cup. After all or most of the salt is dissolved let your solution sit until you see two layers in the liquid. These will be the salt water and the Hydrogen Peroxide separating. I am pretty sure the top one will be the Hydrogen Peroxide and the bottom one will be the salt water. Comment at the bottom to tell me what you find. I would also like to know what use you have found for it.
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Meanwhile, back to freeze distilling, like a regular person.
jpoopdog is confusing "I got away with it" with "it must be safe, because I got away with it".
Just for completeness, lead poisoning is generally an accumulate heavy metal poison. As such, it rarely kills immediately, unless of course the lead is provided as a soluble salt. The symptoms of lead poisoning are often found in cognitive dysfunction (children who ate lead based paint don't do so well in school).
I'm all for supporting inquisitive thought but draw the line when it puts the individual at serious risk of harm (including death). What fascinates me is that in today's climate of terror threats, much of what jpoopdog has admitted to would be considered a felony.
BTW, I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who has been both a chemist (doctoral program in physical chemistry many, many years ago) and a medical doctor. Many of the things I "got away with" as a high school student were never safe. I just "got away with it". No one was seriously hurt (although a friend has a keloid scar on his knee from a conc nitric acid bottle that he grabbed by the glass stopper and poured on himself. Bad luck - but it was MY bottle of conc acid.
Do you self a favor before it is too late. Stay away from energetic compounds (explosives and propellants) until you have formally studied them. Chemistry is a great field to study - I know - I did it for many years but you don't want to hurt yourself or others.
Much of what you have said in these posts will hurt someone. Waynesl gave you some good advice. If you're still alive (and not in jail), head it.
Good luck,
nitrous
About 25% of these comments are spot-on, though wasted as pearls before swine. Another 25% are pure nonsense, and the last 50% or so are poorly-formed arguments in the right general direction but not effective. I've been building pyrotechnics and propellants for 50 years, and the nature of much of this drivel causes me to fear for the safety of the experimenters and their neighborhoods. I hope not to dampen your enthusiasm, but to direct you toward serious, effective study of this wonderful subject. It IS rocket science, but everything you've discussed here was settled and published before any of us were born. The method of concentrating posited in the instructible will actually work, but is very ineffective. The product is only slightly more concentrated than the source material, and contaminated with Sodium, Chlorine and Iodine. An interesting and harmless experiment producing a small but detectable change- suitable for an instructable, but NOT for munitions or propellants, as many readers supposed. When professional chemical engineers like http://www.peroxidepropulsion.com/ get involved, high concentration H2O2 is made by reduced-pressure fractional distillation in dedicated glass apparatus, or by freeze crystallization. There is a detailed discussion at: http://www.rsc.org/ebooks/archive/free/BK9780854045365/BK9780854045365-00001.pdf
If you really want to brew your own, and have a vacuum pump and can blow glass, then see the attached diagram of the temperature gradients you'll need to dance around for crystallization. Below 62% water freezes before hydrogen peroxide, but after 62% hydrogen peroxide freezes before water. So quite high concentrations can be achieved if you freeze it to 62%, throw out the ice and then freeze it again, this time keeping the ice which is now relatively pure hydrogen peroxide. Of course, The freezing points are just too close between 55% and 65% to be able to cross the barrier without massive losses.
Therefore one would Freeze concentrate, removing water ice until concentration reached a suitable 50ish% and then evap to 70ish% and then freeze concentrate collecting H.perox.Ice until 90+% and then distill till ya get the really scary stuff. By the time you get that process rolling, your buddy can have the silver-catalyst jet pack built, and it will be a wild ride home!
also, i was wrong about the hydrochloric acid, it seems that the stuff i always use has some kind of agent in it that decomposes h202, or allows the hcl to react with it.anyways, i got a 12% jar of h202 and distilled it, then added it to some charcoal sulfur mix in the proportions 10/3/2 and when i lit it it exploded the jar it was it with a big bang plus made a large fireball and sprayed sulfury charcoal mud everywhere, and it wreaked.
but still, i dont understand how 90% can be used to make diamonds, do you mean the heat which it can generate, and the pressure to melt and compress carbon?
and the heat it generates is way too little along with the pressure it needs to make diamond
never make such rash acusations without thinking something through
But ill tell you why i was not discouraged by your warnings.
every time i was told not to do something because there was a 99% chance it would explode in my face and hospitalize me, and not do what i wanted it to, it worked fine, i keep my face. from experience, i learnt that when someones says its very dangerous and will definitely maim you, it actually meant, where gloves and glasses, and youll be fine.
I smelted lead, im not dead from lead poisoning. i had an allergic reaction to the lead oxides left behind after smelting, only to find i have a lead and silver allergy.
I opened a bag of aluminium powder, and it didnt burst into flames like everyone warned. I made HMTD and intentionally mishandled it just to see what its limits were, i smashed a small vial on the ground, and it didnt explode, i was told a slight bump would make it go off.
I asked around here if it was possible to distill ammonium hydroxide, without getting any soap form the soapy ammonia into the clean product. i wanted a simple yes/no answer, but people raved on about how its so dangerous and too risky that ill ruin my lungs somehow and it will explode and somesuch, and not to do it. i did it, and found out i was right, the soap didnt vapourize.
Anyway, now i cant find that post about the exploding mix, but ill have you know i did not post that, plus it would never happen unless its heat was raised spontaneously, and or pressurized.
I dont know how, maybe someone hacked my account, or a moderator just doesnt like me all that much, but i never wrote, nor did that. i highly doubt a 12% bottle of peroxide would make enough 90% for that to even happen at all, nor would i have the means to distill to that concentration and keep it from decomposing down to 60-50% where it is considered stable under standard conditions.
Hydrogen peroxide can never be used like a solid oxidizer. It is very unstable and will react with most organic compounds and transition metals.
The word catalyst does not have an "i".
A catalyst only changes the speed of a reaction. They cannot be used to make energy out of nothing. 2 molecules of H-O-O-H decompose into 2 H-O-H and 1 O=O. This reaction gives off energy and heats the higher concentrations to steam and oxygen gas. You would have to add a very large amount of energy if you wanted to break the O-H bonds and make O-O and H-H bonds instead. This would also be stupidly redundant, as you would then be burning it and making it back into water.
Benzene is not a peroxide, it is an aromatic hydrocarbon.
Expoxy has epoxides in it, not peroxides. An epoxide is a cyclic ether that acts as a good electrophile in the polymerization of epoxy.
Sulphuric and nitric acids are liquids, while hydrochloric acid is a gas.
The reaction with the sulfur/carbon you mentioned earlier was most likely the oxidation of sulfur to sulfur dioxide. It's a foul smelling gas, but fairly useless. Why would you add the sulfur if you were trying a liquid oxidant? The sulfur is mainly to form a liquid phase and greatly speed up the reaction.
H2O2 will most likely not oxidize HCl. It's not powerful enough of an oxidizer. This will however work with the larger halogens as the X-H bond isn't as strong. HCl acid is aqueous. It has Cl- and H3O+ ions in solution. With a stronger oxidant it is oxidized to the non-aqueous chlorine gas.
As I said earlier; please never try to talk about chemistry ever again. I don't believe you said a single correct statement in any post.
The math varies, and the original figures need to be clarified, as does the "measure".
NaCl : H202 of 1:3 means the NaCl consistitutes 1/4 of the total, by volume.
To suddenly represent that as 1:4 now means the salt is only 1/5 of the total.
There is also no mention of how the reaction may be affected by additives in the salt.
FURTHER: Note that the container is plastic. Do not use metal containers or utensils.
A ratio of 1:3 BY WEIGHT would be less wasteful of the salt and probably prevent a layer of undissolved salt at the bottom of the cup making it easier to extract the concentrated H2O2.
I think mixing 30-35g salt into 100cc of H2O2 would be best.