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your doing it again efan over complacating when this will do the same job
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my panels give out 2.5 to 3 volt at 20ma
what i have just found is 2 in series wont run this circuit with the components i am using diffent pnp transitor and 1k res insted of 5k

but if i get another to cells wire them up in series and parallel so i get 5-6volts but 40ma the unit works correctly
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
Yes.But i made it before.
you know it might be worth compareing them both see which one is more effecient
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
I preffer yours.
yeah it is a little simpler just messing with the jt side seeing how many leds i can get working
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
Yes. very clever design but i still want a simple anti-over-charge circuit.
a Zener diode would also stop the over charge
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
How about this one? but i think it could more simpler.
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i myself would find out what the trickle charge limit is and have a wind turbine run at that and maybe solar to charge it faster during the day as long as these dont go above what you use they wont be any problems
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
The li -ion cell it self has a protecting circuit in it.
then you have nothing to worry about if the battery is 3.6 volts you need to feed it 5-6volts to charge it you need to work out at what ampage to charge it at and for how long
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
:)From my observation two solar cell series connection are lower than two solar cell parallel connection then jt to li-ion.
the solar cell :2*2.4v/65vma
in series the voltage is higher but ampage (current) is the same
in parallel the voltage is the same but ampage is higher
a 3.6 volt battery needs 5 to 6 volts to fully charge same as a 1.2 to 1.5 volt battery needs 2 to 2.5 volts to charge
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
From my observation two solar cell series connection to 1.2v battery are still lower than two solar cell parallel connection then jt to li-ion.
the solar cell :2*2.4v/65vma
Maybe i should use two solar cell parallel connection to 1.2v battery ,:)
dont forget the diode to stop the battery discharging thru the solar panel
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
Does the high volt but lowe current by jt can improve the charging efficiecy to battery?
it will charg but take a very very long time to charge
i have found if you run a dead bettery that wont take a charge on a joule thief it will then after take a charge
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
i have found if you run a dead bettery that wont take a charge on a joule thief it will then after take a charge
What is it meaning?
ok you have a battery that reads 0.00 volts or 0.10 volts put that in a wall charger and it will not charge
but charge it with a jt for an hour then put it in the wall charger it will then charge
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
This shows that high volts but low current provides active tpositive hing to the battery .Maybe the long time worth.:)
and a guess charging it with the jt first lowers the resistance so the normal charger is then able to charge it
i think when a dead battery is involved it is the amount of resistance
for a normal charger the resistance is to much and it shorts the charger were the joule thief just dossent care
i found that yes the tj will charge a larger battery but found that it did not put enoth charge in to keep the lights going all night
if one solar panel is 2.4volt and 65ma
in series that would be 2.8 volt at 65ma
in parallel that would be 2.4 volt but 130ma

but that are when they are running at 100% that ant oftern some days i get 1ma other i get the full 20ma of my panels
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
I puzzled if one solar panel is 2.4volt and 65ma in series that should be 4.8 volt at 65ma .
you would need 3 solar cells to charge the 3.6 volt battery tho i work it ut for every 1.2 volt battery you need 1 2 volt cell
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
yes. So i used two solar cell then jt to abuot10v-15v low current to li-ion it charged well.:)
yes but for the length of time you ran it with the jt you could of got way more of a charge into just using the solar panels

basicly it will charge faster from the panel then the jt
yes you are correct i hit the wrong number
so that is a step down transformaer with Zener diode to keep the voltage level
for the li-on ? i think an scr to some sort of heavy load might be the answer for that

you can get scr that work at 2.5 or 2.7
just to prove i wasent lieing about the amount of leds i run from this unit the breadboard bit of a mess the part i am using for jt winding is somthing i found in an old pc psu same for the transistors resistors and other bits
the first is the light the camera isent showing how bright it really is
the next is the bread board with the above circuit
and the last one is the unit i found in the psu i use for the jt windings
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efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
FINE WORK.
How long are the leds on lasting with one suuny day charging?
it is winter here at the moment so they isent alot of sun.
the batterys are fully charged at moment the unit is at present running the batterys flat.
once they are flat i will take the cover of the panels to find out.
need to get a clock and a realy to make a light sensing circuit so i can tell exactly how many hors they run for
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
What is it at each point of the battery in your second photo,Is it magnet?
yeah neo magnets they hold the batterys together.
and dead leds as magnetic posts to connect it to the breadbored
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
Is big coil or bigger diameter copper wire can improve the jt output current?
to improve current erm if you raped a 3rd coil the fewer the winds the more current the more wind they are the higher the voltage but less current
jt are not ment for current step up but voltage step up hence they work well with lighting but thats about it
less winds on the base and more on collector can get higher voltage.
but wont some really fun facts wind a 3rd coil run that thru a diode to a cap see what you get and watch the running current you will be seprised
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
delicious!:-)
got to tell you tho if you build this unit do not and i mean do not look at the led i am still seeing purple dots
efanfengshun (author)  dasimpson19813 years ago
:)
the silver things between the batterys are neo magnets they are easy for snapping togeather batterys
just been messing with this circuit more and well seems any npn and pnp transistor will work the 5k resistor can be swoped for a pot to allow ajustment for the level of darkness it turns on at
btw put the solar panel out side if you can the glass limits the ability of the solar panel i just used an old pci bracket glued on the solar pane then shut the window that hold the bracket in place at the moment i have a 12 leds running
You might want to change the title, it's unreadable on half the pages on the site. Plus you've been a little sparse with instructions and images...
efanfengshun (author)  killerjackalope3 years ago
:)

You should also upload full-colour jpg rather than 256 colour bmp.

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