Introduction: Dresser Drawer Fix (modified Dovetail)

My Dresser drawers started to dismantle themselves recently, and I finally got around to pulling the pieces out of the dresser and looking to see if they were salvageable. 

They were very much so, SO I took them to a seperate room to see what I could do with them.

These are the steps I took to fix them and give them another good 10-20 service. 

Here are the pieces I had to work with.

 
 
 

Step 1: Materials and Supplies and Tools, Oh My

I had the 5 pieces of the drawer, shown in the last step.

I also needed some quality wood glue, which I happened to have on hand from a former project.

And one needs a clamp of some sort, since the wood glue works best when clamped during drying.

I happened to have a "strap" clamp.   It consists of a ratchet and a strap.  Once wrapped around the area to be clamped, one "ratchets it tight".  

These clamps are VERY handy, but are a bit of a pain for smaller jobs.  They are great for the monstrously large clamping needs, without going out and purchasing special corner clamps, etc.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Step 2: Make Sure Everything Fits...

To be sure, you want to make sure everything fits well together, before applying any glue to anything.   The thin piece of my dresser, used as the bottom, was very warped, but it would fit with a bit of coaxing, so I didn't replace it.  It wasn't weak or anything.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Step 3:

Once you have examined the pieces, fix anything that is cracked or split, first.

I had one corner that had the wooden guide split a bit at the outside end (towards the face or front of the drawer).  I could have done without the 2 inch portion but I wanted this to last a lot longer, so I glued it first.

I didn't have a clamp that would get inside and hold this however, so I improvised:  first, after adding the glue, I secured it with some masking tape, so it would stay put.  Then I took the smallest wire nail I had, and tapped it in. This worked as both a clamp and an extra bit of strengthening security.

Once dry,  I was able to proceed to the next step.

I DID try to find a way to glue only portions of this together and wait, but the more I tried, the more frustrated I became.  Portions would have to be "moved" if I let the glue dry, and so it all had to be completed in one final step.
 
 
 

Step 4: Final Steps

Finally, I am ready to "do the glue" on the major portion of the drawer.

First, if using a strap type clamp as I did, lay the strap down in a straight line.
I set the back down on a flat stool (a workbench is better),  on top of the strap, and placed a good portion of glue into the groove for the bottom section, and in the "groves" of the "modern" dovetails on the edges. Next, I fitted in the sides.  The tongue and groves helped the side stay in place, so I was able to slide the "bottom slab into place.  

The trickiest piece was going to be the front.  I had to "slide" it in from the side;  not a problem for the  one side, but for the other, since it is now butted up against the bottom, was a bit harder.   I had to carefully separate the one side about 3/4 of an inch (about 19 mm) away from the base, slide the front into place and bring the side back into place.....all the while, holding it all together (a partner would be VERY helpful here).  If the bottom had not been warped, this would have been fairly easy. 

With the bottom as it was, warped in two directions, I had some "pushing and tapping" to do to get it all to fit again.

Once it was all back in place, I wiped up the excess glue oozing out all over the hardwood floor (it might be a GOOD idea to lay paper or some cloth down before starting if you don't have a work bench with enough room on it).  A damp cloth is best for wiping up said drippings (droppings?). 

The bottle of glue says to wait at least 24 hours before full use....however, for this size a project, and the amount of glue needed, I had to wait a full 48 hours, just to be sure.

That's about it.   Once the glue was dry, I released the ratchet and put the drawers back into the dresser.  Hopefully not to have to fool with them for another 20+ years.
 
 

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Lateral Thinker (author)2010-01-12

The secret is, there is a democratically elected government law in NZ stating that in 2011, all our land fills MUST close.

Everything must be recycled, home composting, commercial composting, worm farms, metal, plastic, even that ploystrereane packing material.

When buildings get pulled down, no longer do slabs of concrete go to the land fill, instead they get broken up into football size chunks and used for land protection, one company supplies home owners willing to pay, a wheelie bin for grass clippings, when house owners remove small trees, they get chipped and used as mulch on gardens.

Even the sludge left over from sewage treatment is being composted for flower gardens.

Gas is being taken from our tip, to heat the community hospital, and public indoor swimming pool

It was near impossible to open a new land fill, because of the NIMBY (Not in my backyard) syndrome quickly affecting its proposed neighbours, whenever a proposal is announced. (same for wind farms and small hydro power, so alls not cosy in NZ)

Recycling extended the life of the Porirua rubbish tip (Our old name for land fill) and charging by weight for deposits helped, commercial firms used to carry rubbish miles past the nearest tip, to a tip with the lowest fees, like ours. There was a Wellington City tip opened 10 minutes from here. and full 10 years later.

When ours is full, the nearest is on the opposite side of Wellington City, to get there, you drive thru the city, and that is congested, its just announced that the motorway is finally being extended to the Airport on the other side of Wellington, that was supposed to have been done in the '70s!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some hazardous waste will still go there after 2011. Our water supplies are not metered, but will be soon, as we (Wellington region) begin exceeding the water resorse, costs too much to build reservoirs and safeguard catchment areas.

We ratified that carbon reduction treaty, but the USA hasn't, your president decided it would harm companies doing business in the USA, but its the same for us, just like we all get harmed by ozone holes and greenhouse gases.

The USA, claiming to lead the world, as a peace maker, but is years backward about saving the planet from our destructive habits.

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Just West of your location where I am, in sunny Australia, far too much waste is made each and every day and sent to land fills and buried away. The majority of these have at least one recycling habit though, which is good but still not enough. For example my local one chips all unusable wood and then sells it off, and good quality wood is sent away and turned into something useful.

At home is where I believe most waste can be reused, and it's good to see more and more of this in our neighbourhood. Where I am though a major factor that needs to be considered is water and power usage, our dams haven't been above 55% in over a decade! Cutting down on power consumption is sometimes hard but a big gas and heating company has released a part in their website about where you can make a difference, which has actually helped us considerably!

Because I live in two house holds I can see two completely different lifestyles though, at one place we reuse everything we can and save up every where else. We've tapped into the plumbing from our shower so that it goes out to the yard which has really made a difference, without having to increase our usage of H2O we've made our garden much more productive! And all it cost was $50 for all the gear to do it. At the other house the light's seem to be never turned off, nothing is powered down at the wall and the cooler runs until sometimes I need to grab a jacket to sit under it's icy blast.
With this two sided view I can really see that even a little bit of extra thought can do a lot, but convincing people to do it is the hardest thing.

It's just really good to see things like what Goodhart is doing here, salvaging and re-making. If every one did this then it would make a huge difference.

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Correction, Goodhart was repairing.

Our NZ South Island Hydro Lakes are spilling water as we can not transfer power fast enough to the North Island.

The North Island is burning coal, oil and gas to produce power. Wellington is concerned about a shortage of drinking water in the next few years.

The last few months has been very windy, NZ got 3% of its electricity from wind farms.

Change the conditions, and there is not enough Hydro power in the South Island to transfer to the North Island, we began emergency power savings.

The Government believes its bad management on the part of the generating companies, while it talks about deregulation, its already made a knock out blow.

The next time the power generators declare an emergency and ask people to save power, they will be paying the consumers for saving power, $10 per household per week. As I pay $120 a month, next time we get asked to cut back, my bill will reduce, but I will also get a credit of $40 per month.

That is a very logical rewarding way of saving on Green House Gases.

However, dont think we will have shortages again, shortages in the past, meant the price of power went up, but not so much the cost of generation.

Power shortages are no longer profitable to the generating companies now that the consumers get to share in the profits from higher prices due to shortages.

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Mmm yes sorry about that.

Simple strategies like that are brilliant but aren't employed enough. A year or two back I heard about a country up north (was it Greenland?) that ran out of coal and made the government a little paranoid, changed to renewable energy and making rebates and the sort actually improved the country's economy and everything. All from a little good thinking, it's proven that you don't need coal and oil to run a country!

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Coal was convenient energy before you could transfer energy as electricity.

Before coal, factory's depended on water wheels, so factory's had to be located alongside rivers, but that was not always convenient for the labour force, so mill owners had to provide basic, but good housing. (That saved on the wage bill, and the workers liked the housing)

With coal, which cost more, the factory's could be build in the middle of cities, where the labour force lived, the mill owners no longer had to provide housing, and with such a larger pool of labour convenient to the factories, they drove down wages, and that resulted in what was called "Slum housing areas" or Slums.

London was the classic example; smoke everywhere from coal powered industry.

The price of coal went up, and the price of using it went up too, it required too much handling, and then came Demon OIL.

It could be piped everywhere, to use it, very little labour was needed to watch the burners and steam producing plant.

Initially oil was miles cheaper, and the world abandoned coal, but as demand increased, and the most convenient oil sources ran out, AND oil became a political weapon, the price of oil became uneconomical plus no country wanted to risk its economy on oil always being available.

Researchers now work out the true value of oil by working out how much energy input it takes to put one barrel of oil on the market. And we are fast approaching diminishing returns, we are past the point of half the energy in a barrel of oil has been used up, finding and extracting it to put that barrel of oil on the market.

Back to the 1920s when oil began taking over from coal, at the same time the UK for example began setting up power stations to serve small localised areas, small inefficient stations, all different voltages, some AC, others DC, some supplying both. But as electricity was so much more convenient than coal and oil, people were willing to pay the price of ineffective power stations. And electricity began going into homes.

WW2 was the first war run by oil, you could say Hitler lost, because he had few sources of oil (concentrated energy) and Japan's navy was always restricted in action, by its limited oil stocks. Its last outing of big battleships was a one way suicide mission in effect, as there was not enough oil left to fill their tanks for the return trip.

Anybody ever wonder what happened to all that oil spilt during WW2 when U-boats sunk tankers being convoyed to the UK? I read also, destroyers did not have much range, so in the middle of the Atlantic, when a destroyer needed a refill, it went looking for a convoy with a tanker, that's when under way refuelling was developed. Imagine doing that with coal. The final hunt for the Bismarck, when the British warships were closing in, they were running low on fuel, Churchill sent out orders that "stuff the oil supply, sink the Bismarck, they (UK warships) don't have to come back) (they were expendable, not the same as the Japanese suicide mission for a lost cause)

So oil enables war too. Anybody ever wonder how much oil was used in WW2? It ran the Texas oil fields dry. BTW Churchill was Bipolar and today some people say he had Aspergers Syndrome.

During WW2, the British began developing their national grid, to ensure reliable electricity supply for the war industry, afterwards they closed down the small power stations, built big stations, standardised the voltage, and went 100% AC, and today they have their super power stations and super power grid.

The rest of the world has too.

Because we can now transmit energy long distances over wire as electricity, we no longer need packets of concentrated power such as a sack of coal, or can of petrol, except to power shipping and air transport. Railways are being electrified.

There is one last hold out, the automobile with its IC engine. As the price of oil continues going up, those people insisting on having their own means of transport, have to pay for battery powered cars. (The price of the batteries did not drop so much as that the price of oil came up to meet it, and exceed the battery cost.)

TODAY

We are returning to that old waterwheel factory on river bank idea, but rather than water wheels, its super efficient turbine electricity generators and large lakes. (With water wheel factories, when river levels were low, the mill owners laid off their staff, without pay)

And the factories can be anywhere, like close to their source of raw materiel, and/or labour force.

That is reflected in NZ, most hydro power comes from the South Island, and the central North Island, There is no fossil fuel power station that I can think of in the South Island, such stations begin a third of he way up the North Island, up to Auckland near the top of the North Island. (Our only oil refinery is just North of Auckland.)

Auckland is our largest city (collection of cities) most of the NZ population is there, Wellington at the bottom of the North Island is second, but still lots less than Auckland, (Wellington is the capital city, and with Auckland has a great natural harbour)

And Christchurch in the middle of the South Island comes a poor 3rd. There in winter it snows.

Auckland has a warm climate, which is why people live there. Wellington is the capital, and the politicians need heaps of people living in Wellington to help run NZ.. Christchurch attracts people, as it could be considered as the capital of the South Island.

The rest of NZ, small cities and towns are populated due to natural resources and farming, and service providing to local population and industry. (New Plymouth is where our best oil and gas wells are, albeit running dry)

This happen because we could transmit energy long distances, including underwater between the North and South Island.

Auckland is like London, New York, Tokyo etc, everybody is moving there, and that is only possible due to electricity.

And electricity transmission enables all the renewable resources in NZ to be developed, hydro where the water is, (few people chose to live there) wind farms where the wind is (lots of protesters live there, they don’t want factories there either) and Geothermal (where the tourists go)

And one day, there will be sun powered power stations in orbit beaming power down to the world's large cities.

Now the downside, as cities get bigger, there is more violence and cities get to be a dangerous place to live and bring up families.

I foresee that one day the population is going to shift again, and there the WWW and computers have already begun the process, factory's will become more automated, people can monitor them from home, office workers can work from home, people will chose to live in remote areas, high speed rail services will reduce distances, as renewable power sources come in, it will be cheaper to heat homes, so people will want to live way down South, for the snow skiing, or fishing. The availability of on-line-shopping and services such as banking will be a major in the shift away from large cities.
 
Even the politicians can work from home
 
That will be the end of cities, and back to the small villages of the olden days. Quiet, relaxing, fun and safe living once again.

End of my thoughts, time for me to do something else, my first instructable, a digital calculator is almost ready.

Peter 
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Most Summers over here cause Melbourne's power to go down sometimes a week and a half at a time because every one is using their coolers. It just makes one think; how are they allocating electricity so that a capital city goes dark once or twice a year on average?
Seems strange to me.

Last night Sydney opened up their desalination plant which will be supplying East Sydney, Central North Sydney and the Central Business District as of now. A lot of people say it's going to be a huge waste of energy and tax payers money there we're all going to sit here and whine about it. Sounds fun.

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Goodhart (author)Kryptonite2010-01-12

but is years backward about saving the planet from our destructive habits.


Just because we do things because we want to, not because we need the goverment to legislate that we must (we need less babysitting ;-) .  We aren't as behind as you might think though. 

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Kryptonite (author)Goodhart2010-01-12

Well at the moment I believe our number one problem is over population, which is why when ever something happens it's always a really big thing, lots of people have to be evacuated and other things like that. Looking back through time's temperature levels around the globe, we've actually been in a bit of a mini ice age over the last few thousand years, why do you think they called Greenland... Greenland? So even if the sea levels rise 10 meters, in terms of the globe it wouldn't be a big thing but for the animals and sea creatures it would make a difference. But, thinks must come and things must go, sadly, and I believe that humans will be one of those things, even if it is a couple thousand years until that time comes.

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Have you watched the movie Water World?

Great story.

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The one with Kevin Costner as "The Mariner"? No not personally. I liked The Day After Tomorrow, also a great movie. One must remember though; it's only a story.

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Yes and  Water World is lots more believable, no especial effects needed, it just depended on locations to get the message across.

There is already serious discussion on evacuating the Pacific Islanders as a lot of the smaller islands will become uninhabitable with a rise in sea level of just 500-mm, which explains Water Worlds setting, north of NZ.

As for The Day after Tomorrow, I always get confused, years ago there was a similar title, I think the movie represented just 30 minutes of real time, after a preamble, the view changed to people watching the Minute Men missiles being launched, one after the other, then 30-minutes waiting for the Russian missiles to arrive.

Wont be long until North Korea has missiles pointed at the USA, and Iran, backed up by their A-Bomb says NO, that's finial, to the USA, and the oil wells stop pumping, until the USA hands over the world.

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Hmm I'm not sure which version that is, sounds different to the one I know of.  Iran saying no to USA won't be such a bad thing, that way at least Iran can get some sort of serious economy back therefore helping another country up a bit. As long as they don't start using the "My gun's bigger than yours" threat...

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 Iran has the A-Bomb

Iran says NO to the USA.

USA warns Iran

The rest of the countries in the Gulf tell the USA to leave Iran alone. (They already said they will do that)

Iran says NO again.

The USA gets tough with Iran, and begins moving carriers into the area, the UN can not reach a decision, too many countries depend on oil from the Gulf.

Soon there are threats of the oil being cut off. The USA needs that oil, it no longer has enough of its own.

World oil prices on the spot market hit a $1000US, countries start rationing, the world economy crashes.

The Gulf countries have a full right to cut of the oil supply, and they begin doing so, civil unrest begins in the USA, everybody hoarding fuel, rationing starts, but a black market fills in, the USA goes into winter, people begin suffering from the cold, the President sends the marines into Iran, Iran goes nuclear, it chooses to bomb oil production facilities in the Gulf.

What does the USA do?

You want proof, you watch the oil prices go up, whenever the USA and Iran get into a little tiff.

The current recession arose from such a little tiff.

Oil prices will sky-rocket, when Iran announces it has the A-Bomb, and moves forces towards Israel, whom the USA has promised to defend.

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And some people wonder why I ride my bike!

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 Wait until North Korea joins in, and China gets itself into strive

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I'll get my Ukrainian friends to protect me!

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 There the mafia has taken over and sold all their weapons to North Korea in exchange for US$

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Damn, that was my final resort if things went bad. Any suggestions?

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Get a job with NASA, and desert when you land on Mars, hide behind a rock until the lander takes off for the return, then show yourself and ask for political asylum.

If they don't like you, tell them you are from Venus, and they can sent you back and their own cost.

You being in Auz, were you aware that when its winter in the northern hemisphere world oil prices always go up due to then using lots of heating oil creating high demand? When its winter here this side, not so many people, not so cold, world oil prices drop because of a surplus.

During a recession or down turn in the world's economy, factories reduce production or stop production altogether, unemployment goes up BUT then also oil use goes down, thus world oil prices go down too, due to a glut of oil on the market.

When the upturn comes, what is called the world economy becoming more buoyant, factories open go to full production, they begin hiring workers,  unemployment goes down, there is a demand for oil, the glut of oil is used up, and oil prices go up.

You can not win.

China is a heavy user of coal, you know how many miners die their in unsafe coal mines, they still use steam locomotives on their railways and still built new ones.

As we force them to look after their workers better, they will close the coal mines or make them safer meaning coal has to cost more, so they will want more oil.

As we force them to stop burning coal due to all that black smoke, they will want even more oil.

Their demand on the world's running out supply, will force world prices up, and their demand has already been forcing prices up.

One of the reasons for the current recession was 2 years ago, suddenly Vietnam coming onto the market for oil as their politicians try and make better quality of life for their citizens (Or else the politos get the boot)

Another thing to watch for, is that all oil from the ground is not the same. One kind is good for a refinery to turn into petrol etc, another kind is good for plastics. Refineries are fine turned for their feedstock, if it comes from the Gulf, switching to North Sea oil, wont work very well. North Sea supplies Brent Crude, on the market it has a different price ticker, in effect, its like the stock market, different types of oil.

The oil NZ produces, is not too good for our refinery, some can be blended in with the feed stock from overseas, the rest we export. We buy refined petrol from Singapore.

The point is, if the world loses one oil field, its not always possible to use oil from elsewhere to run a refinery as effectively as it was with the other oil.

Thus Demon Oil, it fuels war as well as causing war.

The USA for years banned drilling off its shores, because of the Greenies but I think it was that they saved it as their strategic reserve, once THEY used up the oil from the Gulf. Two years ago the USA president released that oil, so it can be used.

Thus you can see how dependent on oil that we are. And Iran is building A-bombs.

Oil is a good political weapon, except the USA sent its troops into Iraq, not for the reasons it said, but to gain a base in the Gulf, to protect the oil it believes it owns, the reality being. without that oil supply the USA is out of business.

Iran wants to use oil as a political weapon too, but knows the US will attack if it does, hence the treat of using the A-bomb if the US tries to neutralize Iran's political oil weapon.

Watch when Iran flexes its muscles the last year, the USA warns Israel to behave, while warning Iran to be nice.

When Iraq went into (whats that country?) in 1990 for their oil, the USA had to make Israel stay out of the war, Sudan Husein was threatening to launch missiles with gas into Israel, the Israeli's wanted to go in and destroy them before they were fired, if they did, it could have brought the whole Gulf countries into the war on the side of Iraq, these countries stayed out because the war was only about stopping Iraq. So to keep Israel from making the war worse, the US sent special forces being the lines to destroy the missiles, and flew patriot missiles into Israel to intercept incoming Scud missiles.

But that was a pain, because the USA was already short of air lift capability.

Russia supplied nuclear fuel for a reactor in Iraq, for power, but which could have been the beginning of a A-bomb, just before  it went critical, and with no war declared between Israel and Iraq, Israel send in fighter/bombers on a surprise attack and destroyed the reactor.

Now Israeli would like to do the same with Iran's nuclear capability, so would the USA, but doing so, Iran would cut off the oil supply, the Gulf countries are on its side, so would the UN because of a unprovoked attack on Iran. And Iran WILL go into Israel the second it knows its safe to.

Can the US stop Israel from attacking Iran's nuclear capably with a preemptive attack like it did to Iraq? Israel is fighting for its life, if backed into a corner, it will attack like a cornered cat. And Israel might go nuclear. Its got a dozen a-Bombs, built with the help of South Africa, who got US weapons it was not supposed to have. Israeli is licensed by USA companies to build US design weapons for itself, some ended up in SA

Where did Iraq get the Scud missiles from? North Korea of cause.

Why did the USA settle with a truce in the 1950s Korean War? Because China sent in troops to help North Korea.

And France and Germany build a lot of war infrastructure in Iraq, including factories and equipment to make war gases.

Germany supplied the first batches of centrifuges to Iran for separating Uranium into nuclear fuel, Iran built on that, to begin separating weapons grade uranium.

Religion
Israel is considered a invader by the other Gulf countries
But the USA is protecting Israel because of having done nothing to stop the Holocaust of WW2
A lot of the Worlds oil supply is there
USA sells heaps of weapons to Israel cheaply
Russia has sold non-nuclear powered missile submarines to Iran.

etc

If you want to learn a little, get the classical book on what war might mean to Auz, in the cutting off of oil supplies, its called  "On the Beach" but not the movie as that says very little about Auz living without oil, before being the last people to die on this planet after a nuclear war in the northern hemisphere

Ps, the 1981 Falklands war, the Argentinians used USA Skyharks and French supplied air to surface missiles to do all the damager to British ships on lives. Every country like US France sells weapons for money, not caring how they might be used later

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I like the idea of going to Mars but I think I like the moon better. Although, by then there'll be moon hotels so I won't really be far away from anything at all.

The recession did not effect Australia badly (from my viewpoint, way down here) but mortgage rate rises were on the lips of every and any news reporter, which was a big thing for any homeowner around here because where I am the cost of housing is enough to put you the average buyer in debt for 7-10 years. I still remember the week or two where fuel prices jumped from 98 cents a liter to $1.10, then up to $1.20, then further up until it was feared we'd be up to an almost 50% increase. Bikes really got popular all of a sudden. Then it dropped back and has been hovering at $1.25-$1.30 for the last couple months.

An assignment I was given on credit, debt and transport costs really did open my eyes up on the cost of cars, $2000 for a second hand box-with-wheels that might last 3 years if you're lucky, and constantly pouring money into it, and up to $35000 for an average run-of-the-mill-and-drivable car that can last up to 12 years if you take good care of it. Not to mention the cost of fuel. The hybrid and fuel efficient cars are a real selling point at any car dealership around here, and I haven't seen an ad for a car that isn't advertising it's economic engine.

Bike are becoming increasingly popular, and has become a mode of transport to and from work most days for a fair number of people. Because I'm still on holidays, I took a ride with a mate around rush hour to see cyclist after cyclist over take us / be overtaken by us. I ride because : a) I don't have a car, b) I like riding, and c) it's cheaper than the public transport. Overall, a much better option.

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Did you know the more you personally borrow, the higher your interest will be? As in unsecured loans, but even if you borrow against assets, the interest goes higher when you got most of your assets mortgaged as you are seen to be a higher risk.

When a lot of people borrow, the interest rates go up for everybody. If a country had too much internal debt financed by money from overseas, it could have its credit rating downgraded (meaning a bigger risk as it might not repay) then banks for example have a harder time to get money to loan out, unless they pay more interest, so they will charge more .

I disagree a average house buyer can pay off a house in 7-10 years, its more like 20 to 30.

The trouble with house buying, most people do have to borrow, but interest rates are so high, because of the famous Credit Card, there is so much money owing on credit cards world wide that it forces interest rates up, and somebody with money to lent will put it where the best return is, house loans are considered safe, but lenders want a big profit, so not much goes into housing, which means borrowers happily pay a higher interest (As long as its affordable) just to borrow some of the limited funds for housing.

Your The hybrid and fuel efficient cars actually are costing more because of all the new technology being put into them, and hybrid car prices depend on the battery, a decent long live, big storage battery would be more expensive than the rest of the car. And people to have a new car, borrow a higher some of money than in past, which drives up interest rates for cars.

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It's a brutal cycle, indeed.

Usually the interest rate does not matter upon how much you borrow, but where from. And one must account for variable rates, and banks will only allow you to borrow so much depending upon your Credit History, and other statistics that they dig up from a file with every single bit of your life stored within.

Ok I was actually going to say around 25 years but every time I think of that number it just doesn't seem right so I drop it.

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Ironically to borrow money you need a good credit reputation, which you only get by borrowing money.

Once a year NZers can ask Bay Corp our biggest credit rating report and debt collector for as free personal report.

Mine says no adverse history, but I wonder how they got one of my ex-address where I had only stayed for 3 months.

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And yet they were still posting complaints and what not to a previous address at the time? They're amazing like that, they truly are.

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No, nothing was being mailed at all.

its just they got such good sources to be able to list my temporarily address when I had done nothing to trigger anybody doing a credit check on me, and giving them my latest address

they weren't even looking for me for anything, yet they had that address 

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www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/ 

The Day After, as opposed to The Day After TOMORROW.

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Ahh that would make sense, please excuse me for my stupidity :P

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not till now did I bother checking just what the difference in names was 

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A recent news item in NZ about the temperature the last decade, said the average was up which proved global warming.

Another expert looked at it, and said if the report was not trying to prove global warming (such proof makes profits for the news media) his headline would have said, that was no signifiant change in average tempure over the last ten years.

"You can prove anything by correctly interpreting statistics"

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Sadly, yes. News is often biased and on sided, some time's it's just good to get the bare facts and perceive your own deductions.

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www.stuff.co.nz/national/3235381/Summer-outlooks-not-brilliant 

3% of our electricity came from wind farms the last few months, we could do better, however too often crossing my street to see Ron across the road, I am not strong another to fight the wind blowing me sides, wont be long until I need to put a safety line across.

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May I suggest an underground tunnel? I'm not sure where you find electricity sources in Australia, every time I try to look up a law or statistics like that I can never find it!

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 we got one company (Government controlled) running our National Grid, that's where you find out our sources and statistics, maybe you have the same there? The front of our phone books, have the blue pages for government agencies, if you have the same, take a look there.

start following links out of www.energyaustralia.com.au/

As for crossing the street, a mobility scooter with heavy batteries.

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Ahh thank you, that's just what I was looking for!

And don't forget that little orange flag on the back of that mobility scooter or else people won't see you.

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Maybe a second hand tank from the army? 

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There's actually a club / group in my area that specifies in tanks.

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 they use so much fuel, I will stick in a 99 HP electric motor, and drag a extension cord along with me.

We had such a motor at the cannery running on 3 phase, each phase was 1/2 diameter cooper, it ran a Van sized mincer with a special frozen meat cutting worm, frozen blocks of meat in, cooked meat for canned corned beef out. On starting, once up to speed, the motor switched wiring, called star.delta, the amp meter jumped to 200-amps on the change, first it knocked out its own circuit breaker, next time the fuse on the main fuse board, next time the fuse on the pole on the street outside, then after we knocked out the whole street, I got the hang of starting it up.

THEN a little later, on the star/delta change, I had my hand on top of the safety frame to stop people falling in, and got a massive static electricity shock on the order of 1000s of volts.

I had a key for the machine, pressing the go button flashed the lights in the whole factory, doing that 2-3 times in 20-seconds, burnt out the main fuse each time.

Without that electric motor, a steam engine?

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I was thinking a rocket engine, something you can stick a piece of bread in front of and result in some nice toasted baked goods.

And that sounds like a whopper of an engine, because my life span so far is limited, so is my knowledge and experiences in things like that. However, a friend and I did make a hand held equivalent to a shot gun round. I still wonder if the neighbours dare pop their heads over the fence too look, after the sound that came out of the thing.

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I was thinking a rocket engine, something you can stick a piece of bread in front of and result in some nice toasted baked goods.

That does not compute, that does not compute

There is bigger that 99HP.

There were times I could not stop the machine, not sure if had enough power to restart under load. We did not have a vegetable worm (finer pitch) so used the frozen meat worm when I had to mince horse radish, (without the meat cooker attached) for horse radish sauce. I looked over the top into the hopper to see why none was going out. Some fumes got into my eyes, and my eyes lids locked shut for protection, it was a Saturday so the automatic door closers (hygiene reasons) were off, I went outside to recover (still blind) and left the door open so I could monitor the machine by sound. 10 minutes later the fumes had blown everywhere in the factory, and the 2 engineers inside got brassed off with me, and turned on the air compressor to remotely close the door without coming near the mincer, I heard the door closing, and began swearing because I would have go back in, to turn of the mincer with the panic button, or stay, or jam the door open.

My eyes were still locked shut, I did not know my boss and young son just arrived to hear me swearing. Anyway, he monitored the mincer for the next 15 minutes until my eyes opened.

That job was only once a year, before that be used a large blender to chop the horse radish.

A year later, we got a shipment of minced horse radish from the USA as the farmer near us, that grew the horse radish for us, had used weed killer to get rid of the weeds and ALSO accidentally killed off the horse radish.

He made a lot of people happy when he did that.

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Ouch, pure horse radish fumes. Is that worse than onions? I've never actually seen a horse radish other than on the internet, out of the 7 houses that I've lived in there has never been a horse radish farm near by.

When in Tasmania, I was subjected to lots of potato farming, which is actually quite fun to watch (from a distance). First the furrows, then the planting, then the waiting, followed by the harvesting. I'd have loved to have made a time lapse video with a frame each day with a couple different angles of the paddocks, all from day one through to the very end.

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Goodhart (author)Kryptonite2010-01-12

Well, we are certainly pushing the limits at the moment *sigh*

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Lateral Thinker (author)Goodhart2010-01-13

like NASA getting off 5 shuttle flights this year.

Didn't the Challenger blow up, because NASA was trying to meet a deadline?

Afterwards NASA said never again rushing to meet schedules.

and in 2010, its trying to meet a deadline again, this time set by your previous chief executive, the president, when the last time NASA did 5 in one year, and how many times since the Shuttles maiden voyage was it 5 flights in a year?.

The USA again with Well, we are certainly pushing the limits at the moment *sigh*

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Goodhart (author)Lateral Thinker2010-01-13
Wow, that is inaccurate quoting contextually....we were speaking of global warming.....
 
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Lateral Thinker (author)Goodhart2010-01-13

re your Well, we are certainly pushing the limits at the moment *sigh*

well its worse, your whole culture is about pushing the limits, thus NASA and Challenger.

Is it true that you people when testing the first A-bomb, weren't sure it would not trigger ever atom on this planet begin fissioning too?

You dont know how lucky you were to born Goodhart.

The world would not be the same without your cheese block races.

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Goodhart (author)Lateral Thinker2010-01-13

The likelyhood of the "run away fissioning" scenareo was very remote.

The cheese block races were taken from a spoof of the old Ripley's Believe it or Not mags.  The spook showed people attempting to race cheeses and the caption said:  "Racing cheeses has been outlawed as being cruel and unusual"

This also played on the cliche:  cruel and unusual punishment.....

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Lateral Thinker (author)Goodhart2010-01-13

Even if it was very remote, what a risk you guys took, but the USA has always showed a lot of arrogance.

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Goodhart (author)Lateral Thinker2010-01-14
The "remoteness" meant that it WOULD occur if everything in the universe were made of fissionable material.  In other words,  a percentage chance that low is equal to zero. 

Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. The fearful are caught as often as the bold.  ~Helen Keller
 

And again, by the same deaf, dumb and blind person - Helen Keller:   No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit.
 
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Lateral Thinker (author)Goodhart2010-01-15

the elderly lady not wanting to ever die, I wonder why she slept in a bed of cotton wool, as it smouldered her to death.

Goodhart, why did you lot use the A-bomb on Japan, you were at the point that a blockage denying them oil and tin and scrap metal from the USA and food would have ended the fighting, did not Japan in the 1800s want to isolate itself, until the USA forced it be trade, and allow outsiders in?

Pear Harbour was about Japan making it safe to grab the resources it coveted.

did you ever see that movie, where a small poor country went to war with the USA, using maybe a dozen men, intending to intentionally lose, after which they belived the USA would turn them into country like German and Japan became after losing WW2

so long ago, i can not recall the movie name, but it was a TV movie, never went into the picture theatres

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Lateral Thinker (author)Goodhart2010-01-13

Just one road between my Titahi Bay and Porirua City centre.

At high tide, the road is just half a metre above sea level.

Porirua was a new city centre in the 1960s, the central business are was built on reclaimed land, it is no higher that Titahi Bay Rd.

I wrote to the editor, saying better build a dyke across that harbour, and have windmills pumping water up to the sea level.

And the old story about the Dutch boy plugging a leak with his thumb, was just a story, therefore I was not volunteering for such duties.

My Parents were Dutch, I was NZ born, but the family returned to Holland for some years. And yes there are hills in Holland, i recall at 5 years of age, climbing a steep hill, then looking down and seeing a barge coming up, in a canal lock. the hill was all of 15 metres high

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