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The drum pedal that ships with Rock Band is not built to last and doesn't have a good action if you've played drums before. The Rock Band 2 pedal is built with more metal than the first version, but key areas are still thin plastic. In this project we take a quality (real) drum pedal and convert it for Rock Band (Xbox) use. After only about an hour of work (or less if you're fast), we'll end up with a solid, adjustable pedal, and the best part is it can still function on a real set of drums.

Here's what we'll need:
- (Real) Bass drum pedal
- an audio cord with a mono 1/8" plug
- a reed switch/relay
- small magnet(s)

There are quite a few projects like this around the web, but I wanted to capture what worked well for me.

Step 1: Buying a Decent Pedal

If you don't already have a drum set, cheap quality pedals aren't hard to come by - just hit up eBay or your local pawn shop. EBay seems to sell dozens each day and if you're patient you can get a good pedal for not a lot of dough.

I stalked the auctions for a couple weeks and got this barely used Mapex pedal for about $35 (it retails for over twice that).

I definitely recommend a pedal that has floor spurs (if you play Rock Band on carpet), since this pedal won't connect to your plastic set like the original.

Step 2: Planning the Trigger

Some similar projects trigger a sensor with the beater itself - either with an embedded magnet or piezoelectric sensor. But this requires you to built a pad for your beater to hit (or convert a bass practice pad). This has a couple disadvantages. For one, to use the pedal with a real kit, you have to disassemble this pad, and add it again to play the video game. Also, if you're building the pad, you need to make something sturdy enough to take a lot of abuse without losing its alignment.

I decided it was much simpler all around to mount the trigger under the pedal (similar to the Rock Band design).

Step 3: Preparing the Trigger

The Rock Band drum controller is pretty simple. For the bass drum it is just looking for a circuit to close when the pedal is pressed...just a simple switch.

A (normally open) reed switch is a component which completes a circuit when a magnetic field is applied. These are extremely simple components to wire up and long lasting since a significant physical force is not applied to operate the switch.

To make the trigger for Rock Band I made a run to Radio Shack (choosing convenience over price) and got a 6 foot audio cord with a mono 1/8" plug on one end, a reed relay (the 5V type), and a couple packs of their 3/16" rare earth magnets. The cable was prefect for the job since the other end is already stripped and the wires are tinned and ready for soldering. it would only take a few minutes to prep a cord with plugs on both ends in case you don't find this exact one. Just make sure you have a cord with a MONO plug (with one black line).

Solder the cord to the two leads at the ends of the reed switch. If you get a reed relay, like what they have at Radio Shack, there will be two extra leads you can ignore. After soldering, I encased the whole switch in some heat shrink tubing.

Step 4: Mounting the Trigger

The last step is just mounting the reed switch, securing the cable, and mounting the magnets so there's a good alignment with the switch.

With my particular pedal, placing the switch on the drum clamp worked out best. I just used some electrical tape to hold the switch and a couple zip ties to secure the cable. The magnets sit right on the underside of the pedal on a bracket that holds the chain and they are strong enough that they don't move around without gluing them down.

One thing nice about these small magnets is that you can stack 2, 3, or 4 of them to tweak their distance from the switch and the strength of their field. I got good results with a stack of 3 magnets - with the pedal fully depressed they are about 4-5 mm away from the switch. As far as the alignment of the magnets, you'll probably find you get the best results when they line up with either end of the switch's tube. As I was experimenting with alignment and number of magnets, I made a little LED circuit using the pedal as a switch. You could just probably use the freestyle mode of the game to do the same.

One last step was applying a small felt pad to the top of the drum clamp key. Since I don't have a surface for the beater to hit, the pedal would crash all the way down to the clamp. I also removed the beater since it was causing some extra bouncing (again since there was no hard surface to stop it).

The finished product works great and was much cheaper than converted pedals you can buy online.
<p>I just tried doing this for the XB1 version of Rock Band 4. Unfortunately what's happening is the game recognizes the pedal as being &quot;pressed&quot; 100% of the time as soon as the switch is connected. I haven't even applied any magnets yet. What might I have done to cause this?</p>
<p>Did you get a NO (Normally Open) reed switch? </p>
<p>Follow up! First thanks guys for the responses. Diego that's what I assumed at first. Before I gave up though I tried removing the heat shrink tubing for more direct contact with the magnets. Sure enough that got it to behave properly!</p><p>So it &quot;works&quot; technically... problem is it's causing my wireless drum kit to sporadically disconnect. Like it turns off completely 5 or 6 times in the course of a single song, so it's still not in a playable state. Happens with fresh batteries, too. I verified by playing with the stock pedal immediately afterwards and had 0 disconnects. Not sure if this is a power consumption issue or something specific about the new kits they made for RB4 on XB1. Regardless I'm at a road block again. :(</p>
<p>I had the exact same problem as you (sporadically disconnecting). Turns out, static discharges into the pedal may cause the drum set to disconnect. In my case, I had parts of the reed circuit in physical contact with a metal part of the pedal. I properly isolated my circuit from the pedal and have had zero disconnects since.</p>
<p>Offhand I agree with where DiegoS49 is going. Sounds like you might have wired up a normally closed switch. A normally open switch will complete the circuit only near a magnet - which *should* be when a hit is registered.</p>
I made my own pedal about 10 months ago also, and it is actually almost exactly like yours. I even made an instructable too lol
That's damn cool! I really want to get the ION drum kit, but it's too expensive for me right now. THis is the next best thing. That's the one gripe I have with the drums is that the kick is not sensitive enough and it feels cheap. Now all you need to do is get a double kick setup for those really tough songs! All you would need is a 1/8" mono Y splitter and another kick pedal setup just like this one! Kudos!
Trouble with that - is its not a piezo like in guitar hero - its a switch, so hitting one switch would prevent the other from hitting, you'd need to have your foot 'up' on one for the other to hit, and the second wouldnt register if the first was down. On fast rolls where you keep the pedal low to the ground, it could have a lot of misses.
Any ideas on how to remedy that? I really want a 2nd pedal but if it doesn't work like it should then I wouldn't bother. Unless there was a better way.
Yeah a simple splitter won't work like frollard said. You need to add an extra circuit to convert your foot press to a pulse instead on a constant closure. I plan to add this eventually, but in the meantime you can check out: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://imakeprojects.com/Projects/rock-band-dual-bass-drums-controller/">http://imakeprojects.com/Projects/rock-band-dual-bass-drums-controller/</a><br/>
Thanks for the link! That is EXACTLY what I was searching for. I will begin gathering the parts.
By the way, this works perfect on Playstation 3 in addition to Xbox, just in case anyone was wondering. Haven't had a chance to see the Wii kit.
Instead of using a relay couldn't you just use a pushbutton switch?
Absolutely! But depending on the switch it may not hold up for long against the constant stomping. The nice thing about the reed switch is that there's no physical contact.
Yeah, the stock controller uses a reed - and if you have a broken pedal - *(excepting like my friend, with a broken reed switch) you could add the components to a real pedal :D

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