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Dual Parabolic Dishes on Equatorial mount (and their descendants)

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September 5th I am working on a one dish version and you can see it on facebook at
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=278164&id=736625766&l=8b34cdb5e0
It is trial and error and it will change a LOT before I can include it in the instructable.
I really hoped that someone else would do this and save me the trouble. I might not have time to use it but hopefully  the pictures will explain what I am trying to do.
I am 99% sure that it will work well.  (If not for me, then for someone with greater technical skill). 
A great Austrian humanist called Wolfgang Scheffler thought up a new design for a solar concentrator while daydreaming in university class in Germany.   He could not afford to make his design a reality in Germany or Austria so he left for Kenya (and its different labor and price structure) and after about 2 years the design became reality.  It is still something they can make cost effectively in Kenya but not in Germany.  As soon as he built the first one, he was asked to build another and pretty soon he was asked to help design more in India. So off he went and now there are thousands of Scheffler solar kitchens in developing countries around the world!  But very few in rich countries due to subsidized fossil fuels here.
Basically Scheffler solves a problem with seasonal adjustment of parabolic dishes by warping the dish dish a little every day and effectively making a new parabolic dish every day as the sun's path changes with the seasons!  His dish is on equatorial mount and turns at 15 degrees per hour  (Just like telescopes following the sun).
Basically the task here is to design a parabolic dish that works on equatorial mount but does not need to be a shape changer. If we can do this we can have powerful effective  parabolic solar cookers stamped  out by the millions for next to nothing by the type of machine that turns a piece of metal into a car body.
 
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somerset3 years ago
thanks for the technical research. this has been really helpful. I'm trying to do a parabolic tracker to "fuel" a sterling engine. we'll see how it goes
gaiatechnician (author)  somerset3 years ago
I just made a video about setting up the equatorial platform.  I guess a compass would work too but this takes its readings directly from the sun. 
Brian
gaiatechnician (author)  somerset3 years ago
I am doing more today and I think it will be very helpful to you. One thing is collecting heat from my cone solar dish and the other is about setting up an "equatorial platform" and putting the cone solar dish on it. (I took a day off and it is sunny). A rare combination this year in Victoria! My cone dish took a beating in a recent windstorm and it is warped so don't put too much value on my readings. I have to take readings because there is thin but widespread interest in this. Anything helps people make their judgment. Anyway, I did a really crappy job with my dish. Bamboo stays were only added as an afterthought.
If they were planned into the design from the start, it would have been much more rigid and would focus better too.
Brian
gaiatechnician (author) 3 years ago
I uploaded another video about the cone solar and confirmed the declination angle and even though the cone solar was not as successful as I had hoped, the mistakes are treatable, especially when I put it on the equatorial platform.
bloodybob3 years ago
I know that what you're trying to accomplish is well over my head, but wouldn't a satellite dish work? When I go to the local junk yard they are plentiful. I have often dreamed of putting them to use, and again I am probably way off base so just take my comments with a grain of salt. Hope you get your design off the ground, I love what you are doing.

Cheers, William
gaiatechnician (author)  bloodybob3 years ago
Hi, William, I think a satellite dish will work IF you can counterweight its center of gravity. I just work on this idea when time permits so unfortunately it goes really slow. And I am not great at making the stuff I dream up so worse again.
The long term object is to have something that slowly rotates to follow the sun, and have the receiver ALWAYS in the one place. So you still probably have to lop off a chunk of the dish, or slices through it to attach it to the equatorial mount because it would get in the way at some parts of the seasons.
My project stalled last September. (My backyard gets little light in winter). And this spring in Victoria has been the coldest wettest since the 1940's. I took it apart and rebuilt part of it recently but now that the sun has showed up, I am insanely busy at work.
Finished at 7.40 today, 9.40 last night and about 8.40 the previous night. (That's burnout schedule for stonemasons!) Anyway, thanks for the comment. Glad someone is still checking the stuff out. Maybe one of you will make it a reality.