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Mar 24, 2007. 6:33 PMMr.Asmith9
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The thing I dont understand is why do people think its inhumane to put a rope around there neck as a way to restrain them, when after all its what we do with dogs! Also with there chain chokers! Therefor wouldnt that be inhumane too? Other then that good instructables!
Dec 17, 2008. 10:39 AMAnnie_W
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People generally think it's inhumane to put a rope around a bound person's neck because it might possibly choke him to death. A much safer and just as effective method is to tie a loop in the middle of a 16' length of rope and place it across the "victim's" shoulders, bring it to the front and under the arms. You may then wrap the remaining rope about the upper arms, securing them against the body. When you have your victim's wrists bound behind his back you may use the loop in the rope as a anchor point with which to raise his hands into a modified reverse prayer position and make escape impossible.
Sep 6, 2008. 7:24 PMInstrickables
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Hey, we kinda care more about human dignity than a dog's. But overall, I get your point.. We're just more worried about the whole tug hard->choke->die factor.
Oct 6, 2007. 8:20 AMpinoymale
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Nice instructable. I've recently started studying shibari and I read somewhere that if a loop is tied around the neck, the loose end should go towards the front and not the back so as to avoid/minimize accidental choking.
But if the cord is around their neck they can't struggle with out choking themselves.
Sep 6, 2008. 7:20 PMInstrickables
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Yes, well, people that would put this to much use will probably not want the victim to kill themselves, right?
Mar 4, 2008. 1:02 AMclarissa2k6
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that looks like too much work. i thought you said "no knots"?
Sep 13, 2007. 8:38 PMmoomoocows
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I'd have to say that this method of binding looks to be extremely dangerous for the simple fact that the loop goes around the neck but I think its a great instructable and i have always found it an amusing past time to think up new knots and ways of restraining a person
Mar 23, 2007. 10:18 AMchang
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I'm not sure that the women I know could be subdued this easily. Do you have something for strong, mean women?
Mar 23, 2007. 10:22 AMsam noyoun (author)
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Yeah, surprisingly I've found a smile can sometimes go a long way ;-)
Aug 4, 2007. 12:16 AMTat2
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Might I suggest something I've read, in case anyone wants to practice this hojojutsu? Simply get a hold of and have very handy a pair of EMT scissors, you know the kind they use to cut clothing off of accident victims. In the event of a slip or the volunteer wants out badly, just cut the loop around the neck. Once freed the tied up person should feel more comfortable, then continue un-wrapping. Quick and easy release.
hojojutsu is a technique for restraining someone who understands that you have both the option and inclination to kill him if he does not utterly submit. It is about war and the taking of prisoners who are are not customarily kept alive long. This technique is NOT for fun and games or even self-defense in jurisdictions where you WILL stand trial for killing a burglar in your home. Be advised.
Jun 25, 2007. 6:38 PM_soapy_
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If I were doing this, I think it would be wise to modify the first knot so it isn't a sliding knot, and is on a long ennough loop that you can place it over the head and remove it the same way. It leaves the security intact, and the pressures, but ensures you don't choke anyone to death while they wait for you to undo the rest of the set-up to get to the choke point.
Mar 29, 2007. 4:35 AMCalltaker
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True, that really does depend on your local laws. I live in New York State (US) where you are legally able to defend your home and family with force up to and equal with any force directed at you and your family. ~C
May 5, 2007. 2:50 AMaltaria1993
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if your shop get robbed here( the entherlands) you cant hit the robber, or you can be procecced >.< dumbass gevernment we've got :P
Sep 2, 2007. 10:11 PMjongscx
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Kinda sad... Here in the us, you have to make sure that when you shoot your attacker, they don't make it out of your property.... otherwise, it's alright.
Mar 24, 2007. 3:13 PMCalltaker
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After debating for several minutes as to the wisdom of commenting, I decided to go for it. As someone who is considered a 'professional' in the BDSM scene, I would like to state that I personally don't like the use of a loop around the neck as shown here. This is a personal opinion only. If you are using this to restrain someone who broke into your home, then it really is not an issue, they asked for it at that point. For restraints during a scene, whether or not penetrative intercourse occurs, both the dom and the sub should have worked out the scene ahead of time and have in place certain key 'safe words' that indicate that one or the other no longer feels safe within the scene. At the use of this word, all action stops and the restraints or other paraphernalia are removed. In the Leather Community, there is a term called RACK. This stands for Risk Aware Consensual Kink. The point being that all parties involved are consenting adults who choose to utilize extra means to heighten those physical sensations encountered in a sexual context. The instructable, as posted, has no overt sexual overtones, however, certain responders have chosen to take it that way, and in turn, I have chosen to take the opportunity to provide some little bit of education on what they are randomly using to negatively comment on the poster of, and this instructable. Should you be interested in learning more about the BDSM scene, hetero, homo or otherwise, I would be happy to point you to some educational and informational web sites via PM. ~C
Mar 28, 2007. 5:39 PMmando_jtt
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if Your sub is allowed to wear a padded collar, just attact the rope to the ring, that way You can still use the full cross of him/her. Mikal
Mar 29, 2007. 4:29 AMCalltaker
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True. I was merely looking at it from the point of view of the instructable. ~C
Mar 24, 2007. 3:14 PMCalltaker
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PS: Nicely done instructable, don't let a few naysayers slow you down :) ~C
Mar 23, 2007. 8:06 AMmunkey_b0y
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Excellent introduction to this awesome artform. I think Asif and nah need to understand how much fun can be had between two people who trust each other and can excersise a little 'restraint'....... sorry bad pun I know. I think the key phrase here is 'consenting adults'. For the rest of the would-be commenters on this just think twice before you lay into a man and his girlsfriend for practicing something that they both get a kick out of, and perhaps open your mind a little to the more exciting possibilities of bondage.
Mar 24, 2007. 3:47 PMmunkey_b0y
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not sure if people are misunderstanding my meaning or not. Just to clear up my previous comment, I was simply trying to prevent a flaming war style misunderstanding. I do wish people would read comments rather than simply scan them. I don't believe I refered to the writer of this instructable once in my commentry other than to thank him for his contribution. I was hoping to see more from sam on this artform.
Mar 23, 2007. 10:09 AMsam noyoun (author)
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Actually neither me nor my gf are into bondage. Not that I have any problems with it, it's just not how I get my kicks. We just thought we'd just make the vid. a bit easier on the eyes than if it had been a bloke (me) being tied... As far as I'm aware, the "cross" restraint is primarily a military one; modified into a hogtie, it bears similarities to bondage techniques (possibly much less safe due to the "jakuguchi"
Mar 24, 2007. 10:38 AMThelemic_Potter
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Fantastic! I was just told where to find some Shibari rope on super cheap sale, this will be an excellent start. And to the Puritans that seem to infect this site like a plague, I will be using this in the bedroom and it will be throughly enjoyed by all involved
Mar 23, 2007. 6:55 AMAsif Ihwud
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Hey Sam Your girlfriend needs a new boyfriend and some help with her self esteem issues. You need watching.
Mar 23, 2007. 8:48 AMVisitor
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Please open door and look at people. They are all different and none of them thinks exactly like you. Think about this before you judge people.
Mar 23, 2007. 9:40 AMAsif Ihwud
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Visitor If people get a kick out this then good for them. However, ignorant apologists are easily manipulated and unwittingly give abusers licence to exploit.
Mar 24, 2007. 12:57 AMfoobar
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although i do think this is a dumb instructable (on par with all of the knex ones. when will those go away?), i must admit that you are taking this waay too seriously. and to quote you: 'if people get a kick out of this then good for them'. if you really felt this way, why would you even bother with your stupid 'victimized' comment to begin with?
Mar 23, 2007. 2:26 PMARVash
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Umm asif? This is an instructable, not a bondage game. Obviously knowledge of this technique which is a military one is not taboo. Please respect before you post. If you feel this instructable is violating the instructables policy then by all means report it. Do not put down him or his girlfriend. What a stupid way to deal with things.
wow...you guys really need to lighten up around here...first everyone freaks out cuz someone's posted a k'nex instructable...now you automatically assume that when someone is posting an instructable about a perfectly normal (and rellatively common) restraint method that they're "bondage" enthusiasts...i mean...give it a break...if sam had posted a picture of some girl OBVIOUSLY in distress...butt naked with wax dripping on her..yeah...go ahead and get annoyed...but this girl OBVIOUSLY concented to being used for this instructable...she OBVIOUSLY didn't feel like she was in danger at any single point in time...so why get all high and mighty? give it a freakin rest excellent instructable...very concise even though it's a difficult process to explain (knots, or more acurately not-knots, are never easy to "tell" how to do)....unfortunately your video got banned from metacafe (didn't know that was possible)
Mar 23, 2007. 5:26 AMnah
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You put a rope with what amounts to a slip knot around someones neck? I don't think that's really safe. Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable even using a static knot, as it's not too hard to imagine how the rope could do damage to a persons airway.
Mar 23, 2007. 10:17 AMsumguysr
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in step 4 you run the rope through the bite of the neck rope which should keep the size of the neck loop constant so long as the rope is tensioned. Also you would never do this then leave the bound person unattended and you would keep sharp scissors(preferably emt shears) and a knife near by.
Mar 23, 2007. 5:29 AMsam noyoun (author)
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Well, I guess they didn't have health and safety guidelines in ancient Japan....
Mar 23, 2007. 10:17 AMnah
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Which does not make it safe, nor wise. Just because "they did it that way" does not make it the best, or even a good way. It also would not absolve you from responsibility if something were to happen. Perhaps you should consider taking this as a starting point and adapting it into something safer.
Sep 6, 2008. 7:28 PMInstrickables
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Hey, this is an instructable. He's not responsible if this can harm someone, and he is just pointing out an ancient technique from ancient times. There are techniques for balls of fire on your hands, flamethrowers, and other extremely ill-advised stuff and you choose the "tie people up and maybe choke them somewhat" to berate? Double standard...
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