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Easy ATX Bench Top Power Supply.

Easy ATX Bench Top Power Supply.
There have been a few good writeups and Instructables on this subject, recently. This picture I found on dutchforce.com finally inspired me to make my own. http://www.dutchforce.com/~eforum/index.php?showtopic=20741

Not being familiar with the inner workings of an ATX power supply, I applied one of my favorite hacking methods... I ported all the lines to a tidy little color-coded row, where I can mess with them at my leisure.

This also allowed me to bypass a lot of hard work, and resulted in a very compact design that is easy to further adapt and modify.
 
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Step 1WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DARN WIRES???

Ok, relax. There's a ton of redundancy in the wiring here. For the life of me, I'll never figure out why they need so many wires in this stupid power supply, especially when so many of them go to the same place.

1.There is a green wire that goes to the 20/24 pin ATX connector. When it's pulled to ground, it turns on the supply. Unless it's held low, the only DC power that comes out of the thing is a low current 5V standby power from the purple line.

2. There is a grey "Power Good" line. I can't find a lot of info on this, but several people suggest you should put a small load on it, like an LED and resistor. Mine appears to work fine without doing that, and the voltage measured on this line is 4.7V or so.

3. There may or may not be a brown line, which is the 3.3V feedback line, which should be attached to one of the orange 3.3V lines. On my supply, this wire was already in continuity with 3.3V output on the pcb itself. So I wonder why they even bother using this wire, cuz it goes into the ATX connector, sharing a pin with a 3.3V line, anyway... more redundancy.

4. There may or may not be a small thin red and/or yellow wire, which are the +5V/+12V feedback lines, which should be attached to the respectively colored +5V/+12V power line. Mine had just a the small red wire.

There are several red, yellow, and orange large diameter output wires. You can remove them all but one of each color, unless you are going to keep long lengths of this wiring and can't afford a miniscule voltage drop from this already relatively poorly regulated type of high output supply, then there's really no point in connecting big bunches of them together, like many other people have done in their own version.

Anyways.. those are the basics. The only other thing to add is that some supplies need a minimum load on the 5V line before the output voltage (of the 12V line) becomes stable.

I experimented with the 12V output on my power supply, using a 1 ohm piece of resistance wire. This was done with and without an 80 ohm load resistor between 5V and ground.

Without load: The 12V output when open circuit was 13.06V. The output with the resistance wire attached and glowy hot was 11.53V. The spec on the supply states 15A output. So this seems perfectly acceptable to me.

With load resistors between 5V rail an ground: The 12V when open circuit was 13.06V. With resistance wire attached was 11.55V. The difference was statistically insignificant, with my low quality multimeter.

After a deeper investigation, I found out why the load resistor makes no difference on my supply: There is already a resistive load built in. Even without the load resistor, there is an 8 ohm resistance between 5V rail and ground! So no, my power supply isn't magically efficient... but at least that's one less part to worry about. I also found that the 3.3V line was loaded with a 10 ohm resistor. I actually opened it up to take a look and I spotted both of these power resistors inside the supply. I also took some pictures while I was in there, but I had an irritating flash card reader problem, and I'm too annoyed to do it over again.











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Aug 23, 2008. 4:26 PMmarshavoc813 says:
Complete noob question, but what exactly could you use this for? Would you use it like a power supply for electronics experiments or what? Thanks!
May 7, 2011. 11:53 AMSwishercutter says:
Typically, 14.4V is used to charge a car battery...the voltage has to be higher than the potential of the battery to charge it...unless you only needed it to hold 10V or so.
Mar 23, 2010. 12:40 AMhjartland says:
I skimmed through this and find it to be a cool slim-lined approach. One thing though ... MORE PICTURES!
Aug 23, 2008. 10:23 PMFlea says:
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Mar 11, 2009. 8:52 PMgilbert2048 says:
I don't know what PSU your using, or what molex connectors your using for that matter. Yes there are two ground wires (black) but there is a +12V (yellow) and a +5V (red). The reason there are so many connectors on the ATX connector is to due to the variety of voltages to supply, and the current that is pulled is to great(on most machines), to be on a single wire for an extended period of time.
Mar 16, 2009. 8:22 AMgilbert2048 says:
Yes I realize that it does work, however I would NOT recommend it on newer computers or to those who do not understand why the there is redundancy. A P4 @ 2.8GHz is not going to be pulling all that much power, and like you said you don't have may accessories (ie. graphics cards, sound cards, physics cards, raid card, etc...), nor do you have a mass of fans, and you do not have an array of HDDs Some of my computers require 2 PSUs, this is because they use a mass of power and they need redundancy in case of failure of one the PSUs, there servers
Mar 18, 2009. 9:47 PMgilbert2048 says:
125mA for a fan, maybe a small cpu fan but some case fan can be connected strait to the mobo, and those can pull a range of 300mA to 1A My AMD (atholn x64, atholn x64 X2, and all those quad and higher) chips defiantly pull more power, I know that. I also think my P3 pulls more my P4 2.80GHz box, I think that could be do to some heat type issues. Another thin to consider is the RAM, i know depending on the size of the sticks they can draw quite a bit, knocked a hour off my battery life on my laptop :( I wasn't so much referring to the redundancy, as more the ones that need to just to get the required power, and they don't have any real power cables in those, the PSUs connect to a slot on the mobo. One last thing, the wires are 18 AWG which are rated for a Current Carrying of 2.32A and I couldn't imagine putting more on it than 5 amps at the max, and even then only for a short time
Feb 19, 2010. 11:20 PMhesperaux says:
 klee27x,

Would you be confident buying a power supply where the company takes shortcuts like that? Take RaidMax for example. Have a look inside one of their PSUs and then take a look at a high-end Antec, Silverstone,  PCP&C, etc. and see what the differences are. Switching power supplies are extremely complicated. Good design and careful attention to detail are marks of a good, reliable supply. Marks of a bad supply are those that use too little copper to carry too many electrons, causing a meltdown of the insulation and internally shorting the supply. Even with short circuit protection and all the other protections that are built in, do you really want to deal with that as a consumer?
May 11, 2009. 10:38 AMgfioro says:
Actual power supplies can deliver very high currents, up to 18 or more Amps depending on the voltage. As far as I know, that is the reason why there are so many wires of the same voltage: if you demand the 18 Amps on 1 wire, you might burn it, as I´ve seen on a friend´s computer. You need thick wires (or many thin wires) for such high loads, specially if you want precise voltages at the end of the wire. Thank you for the assembly idea! It´s handy! :-)
Apr 18, 2009. 7:56 AMhboyce4 says:
Ive been building one, and ive discovered that you can ajust the voltage by adjusting the tiny variable resistor connected to the brown "sensor" wire. I simply jumped it right on the board as you said, but there was not enough resistance, so i got 11v on the 12v line, 4 on the 5 etc... i just adjusted the potentiometer and i came back to normal.
Mar 19, 2009. 6:00 PMjoinaqd says:
why does your instructable have no rating?
Dec 9, 2008. 7:11 PMjoinaqd says:
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Dec 10, 2008. 4:50 PMjoinaqd says:
do you have any others related to real "tech" stuff..like real electronics with transistors and capacitors and stuff?send me a link k dude?sry i said ur nolife lol.
Sep 27, 2008. 3:41 PMDms12444 says:
ive used this for an electrolysis machine, works really well. By the way marshavoc813 this would work well where u need low voltage power supplies.
Aug 25, 2008. 5:42 AMcyrozap says:
looks very nice, should design for apple ;)

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