With the Microsoft Zune you can beam songs to other Zune's, but they are deleted after three plays. This is an easy way to keep those songs.
NOTE: I am NOT LIABLE if you violate copyright laws when sharing songs.
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Signing UpStep 1: Set the Zune up for storage.
To set it up for storage:
1. Install .NET Framework 2.0 from here: http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx
2. Download the ZuneHDPatch from here: http://cppworld.com/Zune/ZuneHDPatch.exe, and run it on your PC with your Zune unplugged and the Zune software closed.
3. Plug your Zune into your PC, and it should appear as an external HDD.
4. To copy files, make sure the Zune software is running and set to "syncing."
This is a great way to use the Zune as a portable HDD. If you would like to keep shared songs, go on to step 2.

































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and the ARCHOS is the same price with a much bigger screen!
Your statement that Apple gear is crap is pure stupidity. I do not, and have never, owned an Apple product, but for years serviced both Mac and PC products for a company that owned thousands of each. Compared to PCs, Macs almost never break. Apple software has some really peculiar failure modes, but nothing is built better than a Mac. Good stuff. You obviously have no experience with Macs.
Doesn't mean I am going to buy one, they discourage tinkerers and cost too much (although I spend nearly as much building my PCs to the same standard of reliability, just like to tinker...).
My argument remains.... dont buy either iPod or Zune, theres better stuff out there.