Build an Electric Motorcycle on a budget

The Goal of this project was to convert a classic motorcycle into a clean, quiet, electric daily driver that would reduce the amount of automobile pollution caused by my short to mid-range driving trips.

COST: $1,000
RANGE: 40 Miles
SPEED: 40mph with current sprocket setup
CURB WEIGHT: 320ish Pounds, around 50 more than original
RECHARGE COST: Less then a Penny per mile

Ahhh yes, The Electric Dream! Clean, Quiet, and best of all not a drop of Gas!

There is a lot of great information on current Electric Motorcycle Instructables, but I still ran into some snags and made some mistakes along the way. So I will do my best to cover where I went wrong to save you some time, money, and effort. When the build was over a book called Build your own Electric Motorcycle was published, Needed less to say its a resource I wish I had along the way.

Also, by no means am I an expert. In fact, the only class I failed in college was "introduction to electronics" . In saying that, I am looking forward to any comments or feedback on how to improve my project. Also follow me on Twitter or on my Electric Motorcycle Blog to  keep up with my current projects and Electric Motorcycle News.

Step 1: What you need

Here is a list of what you will need and how to find it:

A Plan: This is the best question to ask yourself before going out and buying anything.
How far, how fast, how much? To get a good idea of this, spend some time on: http://www.evalbum.com/type/MTCY - its got 1000's of Electric Motorcycle conversions with pictures of the bikes and the components used to make them.

1.Donor Motorcycle or a rolling chassis - Check Ebay and Craigslist. Personally, I like to set up an RSS feed from my craigslist search, otherwise I browse for way to long when my ADD kicks in. I found my 1967 Honda Dream(ca160) on craigslist for $275, with frozen motor, but hey, I don't need that anyway.

2. Electric motor - There are lots of options out there, but I recommend a Brushed 48v Etek Briggs and Stration due to its price, power, and availability on eBay. The original is no longer in production so your options are to buy a used motor or get a clone. Also, if you have a local golf shop go talk to someone there - they are gear-heads too! These guys will like you and they will like your project. So see if they can cut you a deal on an electric motor, there will be plenty of just sitting around.

3. Batteries again, consult your plan. My plan was 30+ range, so I picked up some deep cycle batteries at walmart for $62 a piece. They are 12v 105 aH. Looking back, I wish I would have gone with some smaller and lighter batteries. I really don't need the amount of range these current deep cycle batteries provide.

4. A motor controller that delivers/regulates the energy from the battery to the motor. Think of this as a transmission. I found a Curtis 48volt 300 amp controller on eBay for $150.

5. A twist grip throttle that sends an electric signal to the controller - which determines how much energy is sent to the motor from the batteries. Most popular is the Magura Twist grip, available on ebay.

6. A battery charger to re-charge your batteries for continual (cyclic) use. I am still working on finding the best charger for my ride, but I would like to do something that could be out on board.

7. A high-current switch or Contact Buy this on eBay or at a Golf Cart shop. This part makes the loud "click" sound when your turn on a golf cart.

8. A high-current fuse to limit the amount of energy drawn from the batteries in case of a short/failure. Typically = to Control max amperage. I got a 2 300amp fuses on eBay for $19 bucks

9. A large gear ratio to reduce the amount of current required when accelerating (this can be accomplished with a large custom rear sprocket and a small front gear/pinion on the motor). My current gear ratio is 3:1, optimal would be 4:1+

Optional stuff: instrumentation, speedo, ammeter, or a way to judge batteries state of charge.

Comments

[DirtMcGurt]

For anyone interested: I'm currently restoring a 64 Honda Benly 150, which I believe is the exact bike seen here. I have a spare parts bike with everything except a motor that would be perfect for this project. If anyone is interested I'm looking to sell. Let me know.

[AudioMaximus]

What would the legality of this be in NJ?

[JoeMurphy]

typically the fall under under 50cc scooter laws, but check with your DMV

[niuthon]

yeah, where are the brake handles?
ps - great job!

[lloydrmc]

The front brake handle is on the left (visible in the first picture). On a motorcycle, the rear brake is actuated by a foot pedal, as the other hand control is the clutch (the brake would generally be on the right on a motorcycle, so he must have moved it).

[JoeMurphy]

 At the time of the photo I was only using a foot brake...I know scary and dangerous.

[abadfart]

old harleys only had a rear drum and no front brake

[PKM]

It's a geared bike- the front brake is on the right handlebar (step 3 image 4) and the rear brake is the right foot pedal (step 2 image 1).  The clutch is missing because it's unnecessary for a single-gear electric bike.

[niuthon]

I see you are pro indeed :) thx
anyway, this  is realy great bike ,pity no one is selling proper parts in this backwater country of mine ( i had only made a bicycle with electric hub motor - nothing special this days )

[JoeMurphy]

stock my friend

[okbye]

Wonderful. Did you know that bike is pretty valuable in one piece? With that much battery, time to go three wheels, no?

[solivant]

what about a break system?

[dufus1]

Not wanting to be naughty, but why do you need a system to "break" it? I'd just run it into a tree or something.
If I wanted to slow down or stop I would think about putting "brakes" on it.
LOL now have fun with that!

[FurtherThanTesla]

Shorting the moroe terminals will cause the motor to generate power, and then eat the power in reverse- meaning, it will resist any movment and convert it into heat. Using PWM, you can vary the strength of this effect, and voila! you have breaks!

[uberdum05]

Just flip the thing into reverse and just gently apply the throttle :)

[llanyort]

don't they have a kilowatt meter that plugs into an outlet and then you can plug in your electrical device into that and measure the amount of electricity you will have used ? I plan on using this method and reimbursing my boss. im thinking its gonna be a few cents a day.

[randomray]

Hmmmm , I could probably do something like that , They don't say anything about the guys pluging in the heaters on the private diesel trucks .

[bbroughton]

I really appreciate your sharing your input with us. I have always wanted to do this and now that I am out of college and have the extra money I think I will begin pretty soon. I realize that using lithium batteries might be more expensive but do you think it would change the way you built the bike?

[JoeMurphy]

if you can afford lithium, Do it. Search austin ev for lithium builds.

[bbroughton]

Great song on the video by the way!

[jayeshshinai]

my friend made one wid an imported 1000watt motor...mounted it on a cutson 2' aluminium pipe frame wid d rear mono shock. i checked d motors used on evalbum.com, n none of them use "watts" as specifications..so wt specs do i havta tell my dealer for a motor running on 36volts, with enuf torque to move a bike (and 2 riders) weighing a total of 170kg? clearly m not so gud wid electronics...any suggestions?

[soulvoid]

no trying to be rude but you need to learn how to type so everyone can read what your talking about. it took me 3 times to read over your comment to figure out what you were trying to ask. lol

[jayeshshinai]

i knw its pretty late for me to reply...ill try not eating up my words this time.
A friend of mine had got him shipped a 1000watt motor, he mounted it on a custom 2" aluminium bicycle frame which had a single rear shock absorber(soft tail bike).

hope it makes sense now,

[JoeMurphy]

If the motor is rated at 1000 watts and you will be running it on 36volts. Power equals current times voltage for DC, so for 36Volts means a max of 27 Amps...in other words the coils of your motor are rated at 27 amps...

To draw a comparison the above project is rated at 150 amps at 48 volts so 7200 watts.

Here is some helpful formulas

Formulas:
Watts = Amps * Volts {can also be written Power= current x voltage}
Amps = Watts / Volts
Volts = Watts / Amps
Watt-Hours = Volts * Amp-Hours {or energy = voltage x current x time}

Batteries in series = add voltages
Batteries in parallel = add amp-hours

Motors in series = divide voltage by # of motors
Motors in parallel = divide amps by # of motors

[Lance Mt.]

How would we tell through this what momentum and acceleration could be achieved? 

For instance in he's case lets assume its 36 Volt, 1000 Watt, 3000 RPM, 35.6 amp, and 170kg. We understand that that it will have 1000w going through it,  as long as its a brushless dc. Do we need more information to complete this? I looked up something similar, and the shaft was 3/8” X1.25". Width is about 3/4 of length on this particular model.   Steel is generally .290 pound/ cubic inch.

Ok, from this we can probably work out how much weight it is spinning at 3000rpm using a 60 joules/ 60 watts per second.


9.5mm (D) x 31.75 (L)

19mm x Pi = 59.6902
                        59.6902 x 31.75 = Volume
                                                          Volume = 1895.16576mm3
 Volume x 0.78 g/mm3 = 1478.2292992568733614600199043514 g
                                          =  14.78 kg 

  The motor is using 1000w to turn 14.78 kg at  3000rpm  

     To save my head more ache. I'm going to pretend the weight is 147.8 kg. At a 1:1 ratio this would turn 300rpm. which is  5 rotations a second still, without gearing.  How do we work that out? I'll get a base to work off.

Oh.. It seems I could have skipped a fair bit of this by using the equation:

MPH = RPM * Tire Diameter / Gear Ratio * 336
MPH = 3000 x 4064mm inch (Average) / 1:1 x 336 = 4096512000mm/per sec maybe?

MPH = 3000 x 40.64cm / 1 x 336 = 40,965,120 cm/per sec
 
 OR 254.5 mph. This just doesn't seem right at all, remember. I'm doing this as I go along. Perhaps Inches will do it.

MPH = 3000 x 16inch / 1 x 336 = 16,128,000 mph. 

OHHHHHHHHH I see what I have done, I haven't put the answer at the front of the equation. Would that mean that I should reverse the current equation to get my answer?

Back to finding the base. Ideally I would like 1kg x 1w (1J) = x amount of metres

Some useful points through my searching 
"100 kW is roughly equivalent to 134 horsepower"  - 13.4 horsepower, however...

"One horsepower for rating electric motors is equal to 746 watts."

"In terms of mechanical energy, one watt is the rate at which work is done when an object is moved at a speed of one meter per second against a force of one newton. 1W = 1Js-1 = 1kgm2s-3 = 1Nms-1"

[Lance Mt.]

 That Equation is killing me. I'm only in year 9, it doesn't make sense to me. The 336 constant must have to take into consideration gravity, air resistance as it rises, even ground ie. 

But it does not take into consideration of weight, or little things like where the force is applied and so on. 

I have much to learn, but for another night.

[arivera-2]

Will this motorcycle work in the rain??

[FurtherThanTesla]

Just wanted to say, how awesome this project is. Not only is it a nicey made electric bike, but i think it looks pretty cool too! I am concidering building a high-efficiency streamlined 3-wheeled solar car. But I want one that goes fast. So, i am intending to use the Etek motor, and a pair of 1kw panels. I came to this instructable because i need an electric car before i can have a solar car! and this is exactly the setup i wanted. Figured i would go look at someone whose been there before I spend $500 on the Etek.

[mtm101097]

This may be a stupid question, but why not use rotating light dimmer as your throttle control? They probably make very large ones capable of the power required. BTW nice instructable

[FurtherThanTesla]

Sorry, but no. That motor draws more than 5 killowatts. there is no light dimmer (mabye other than expensive industrial-grade ones) that is made to handle that load. Also, Dimmers are made to work on AC power. The motor on that bike is DC. and, lastly, that motor is for a lower voltage than what dimmers are made for, so it would draw more amps. a 5kw dimmer made for 5kw couldnt handle 300 amps at 48v.

[zack247]

this is very cool! i am taking a welding class next year and now i am thinking of making a frame for a more-or-less motorcycle shaped vehicle, if i can get that part done, i am going to use this instructable and make a bike of my own!

PS: in step 2, its donor, not doner :)

[sn0manX]

just wonderin, do you still happen to have the gas tank?

[AlternateLives]

What is the horsepower of the unit? sure, going 40 mph is all well and good, but if you can't get up hills, the speed won't make much difference.

[the mechanical engineer]

Is it really neccesary to use a controller box? im sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am on a low budget and to save some money, i thought that i could just use a potentiometer. what would be the most beneficial method if cost is an issue?

[skaar]

... k... a potentiometer, huge, expensive, heavy, and not terribly efficient, compared to a controller box that handles the same power. but it depends on the kind and size of motor, some absolutely refuse to run at anything less than a certain voltage, and with a potentiometer, you'll have a choice, top speed, or stopped.

so... potentiometer
size-less battery space
expense-depending on what kind of power you want, you may end up going to something industrial
weight-requires more battery to haul it around, see size issue conflict

looking around, there's this http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=1625807-1-ND 511 bucks new, 811 watt capability, about 4x6x16" long. you can. alternately, get the same watts from a computer power supply, specialise it to work with only one voltage, get rid of the transformer, and use it as a controller instead of a supply... it could fit in half the space comfortably. there's a certain pleasure in making everything yourself, if you can.

[spiceyweasel]

I am new to the whole EV concept, but something has been nagging me. Why do all these EV bikes exclude the transmission? Wouldn't your bikes benefit from having a taller gear ratio? I need to be able to cruise effortlessly at 70mph for at least three hours. Can you please enlighten me about the omission? Also, why do you have a smaller sprocket driving a bigger one on the wheel? Does the electric motor have that much zip?

[wobbler]

You are asking a lot. 70mph for 3 hours implies at least a 210miles range, 4/5 times what most bikes are achieving. This range is impossible I would suspect on a motorbike with any current battery technology even at lower speeds. In addition unfortunately, the drag due to air resistance increases by the cube of the velocity, so a bike travelling at 70mph has 8 times the air resistance from the 35mph most of these go at, thus making it even more problematic. The technology will get there though.

[1zork]

Transmissions are torque multipliers. The torque of much smaller electric motors exceed that of internal combustion engines. Speed can be accomplished with gearing. The choice is yours.

3 hours at 70 mph requires some considerable battery capacity. One way to reduce the required power and battery capacity is to build a bike similar to the AAR "Gator" style bike. Approximately 1/2 as much power required, and hence 1/2 the battery capacity.

[spiceyweasel]

That bike looks like a three wheeled go cart a buddy of mine helped me build several years ago out of a Suzuki Hayabusa and a Malibu Grand Prix racing cart. It was insanely fast and too scary to enjoy.

[spiceyweasel]

I was going to base my bike on the Fat Bike design....similar to very early Harley Davidson's only with an aluminum frame and wheels to reduce weight. Also, I am working on a proprietary front hub with a permanent magnet generator built into it to produce electricity while the bike is in motion. I don't know if it will help meet my range requirements, but it should help a bit. So, basically, I'll have an over sized bicycle with independent front and rear suspension and moderate sized tires built on the lightest, cheapest frame I can build....no storage save for a back pack....and the bare minimum lights to get it D.O.T. approved as a street cycle so I can hit the freeways. I'll check out the AAR Gator to see if it meets my criteria. Thanks.