Electroforming an Iris Seed Pod

 by MaggieJs
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How to electroform an organic object (iris seed pod). Commonly referred to as "dipping" in metal, think bronze baby shoes!
 
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Step 1: Equipment and Materials

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18-amp Digital Rectifier
1000mL Pyrex Beaker
Lacquer
Conductive Paint
2-Part Epoxy
1 quart Bright Copper Electroforming Solution
Copper Anode
22ga Copper Wire
Paint Brush
Tweezers
Copper Rod/Tubing
Latex Gloves
Baking Soda
Scotch-Brite Pad
Water
Liver of Sulfur
Brass Brush
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ty.zardoz says: Mar 10, 2013. 5:45 AM
Excellent instructable! I have a project coming up that requires a number of copper plated items ... among them a copper plated shark jaw (complete with teeth) and I had no idea how to accomplish this. Now I know I can do it myself with only a small list of materials and equipment. Thanks so much for the simple explanation of how to do this at home!
XofHope says: Oct 16, 2012. 8:14 PM
What a great and useful instructable! Thank you so much! I was wondering, the forming solution you use is always the same no mater the metal you're plating with or is it a different one if you need to plate with silver? I know where I live it won't be easy to get these materials and that sort of info would be very helpful.
Aureliano says: Jun 13, 2008. 3:21 AM
Very nice technique! However, what is the chemical composition of the electroforming solution? In my country, I will have to prepare it myself :)
MaggieJs (author) in reply to AurelianoJun 13, 2008. 8:12 AM
Honestly, I do not know the exact chemical composition of the solution. It is always something I have purchased/used pre-made. I do know it contains Cupric sulfate, sulfuric acid, sodium potassium tartate, and benzidine compound. what country are you in? I may be able to help you find local suppliers.
Aureliano in reply to MaggieJsJun 13, 2008. 10:35 AM
I am in Bulgaria. I can freely find Cupric sulfate here. Do you think it will work as good alone? And: what do the indications on the electric device mean? The first is voltage (should be less than 1 volt, as far as I got you), but what is the second one?
MaggieJs (author) in reply to AurelianoJun 13, 2008. 11:42 AM
Hmm... this I'm unsure of... Let me check some of my sources and get back to you... maybe Solidification has some knowledge here?
MaggieJs (author) in reply to MaggieJsJun 13, 2008. 11:54 AM
Are you familiar with the book "the complete metalsmith" by Tim McCreight? I found this information on how to mix your own solution. "Prepare enough electrolyte to completely submerge the object. Using protective clothing and ventilation, mix one pound of copper sulfate with 100cc of sulfuric acid and a half gallon of distilled water. Stir gently until the copper sulfate dissolves. This solution is used at room temperature." Hope this helps!
XofHope in reply to MaggieJsOct 16, 2012. 8:01 PM
Thank you so much for the information. But is that the general solution (for copper, bronze, silver, etc) or just when electroplating with copper?
Aureliano in reply to MaggieJsJun 14, 2008. 5:39 AM
Great, thank you! :)
foobear says: Jul 10, 2008. 4:48 PM
Well, I did it. I electroformed some flowers and leaves and a quarter. I really like this technique, but I seem to be inordinantly sensitive to the copper sulfate. Just being in the same room with it, I start to get a metallic taste in my mouth on the tip of my tongue. The first time I did it, I spilled some on my skin and was sick for like 2 or 3 days afterwards. The second time I did it I used chemical protection gloves, an organic vapor gas mask and goggles, but somehow I got sick again, though only for half a day. I'm going to have to find a way to do this and not get sick. I've developed a fear of the blue stuff now. But I do like the results. It is fun.
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Maps2012 in reply to foobearJul 5, 2012. 7:01 AM
How did you get the leaf so shiny? When I try this, the objects come out very dull
foobear in reply to Maps2012Jul 5, 2012. 8:31 AM
I think the leaf came out shiny because copper sulfate solution was very fresh and brand new. The more things I electroformed, the duller they came out.
TheChemist in reply to foobearJul 14, 2008. 10:46 AM
How odd! I've worked with copper II Sulfate a lot: burning it, electroplating, crystallizing it. Seeing someone with this reaction to it is very rare.
foobear in reply to TheChemistJul 22, 2008. 5:53 PM
I have a lot of problems with chemical sensitivity. I can't tolerate perfumes in restaurants or movie theaters or hotel rooms or at work. I smell things way before anyone else notices them. I think I may have some liver damage or something from a reckless past. Anyway, I think if I'm diligent enough I can avoid exposure.
TheChemist in reply to foobearJul 30, 2008. 10:12 AM
maybe you can reduce the vapors by sticking it in a new type of beaker. (compare a dinner plate with 100 mL of water on it, to a test tube with 100mL of water: which will turn to vapor faster? The dinner plate water has more surface area, and therefore more area to vaporize.) Use beakers or long tubes that minimize the surface area of the liquid. Use your protective gear and if possible, think about covering the experiment to keep any evaporated solution from floating around... since this isn't a straight Cu II S04 solution, maybe keep it out of sunlight, as the sun's rays can make some chemicals break down and react.
foobear in reply to foobearJul 10, 2008. 4:49 PM
I don't know how this happened, but this is what the copper sulfate solution did to my chemical protection gloves. I don't remember any splashing at all, but the gloves look like hell. That stuff is weird.
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TheChemist in reply to foobearJul 14, 2008. 10:50 AM
Are you sure your solution was Copper II Sulfate? What the hell was on your gloves before this project? When I work with copper II sulfate, its almost always without gloves, and if it gets on my skin, I just wash it off with just water.
foobear in reply to TheChemistJul 22, 2008. 5:58 PM
Yeah, those were brand new chemical protection gloves from the hardware store, never used before. Any time I was done handling the stuff, I would go into the bathroom and wash the gloves with soap and water. The copper sulfate solution is the one from Rio Grande which contains Copper Sulfate, Sulphuric Acid, Benzidine and some other trace amounts of chemicals. I looked up on Wikipedia about copper sulfate and it says that it readily absorbs through the skin. Also, the benzidine is evidently *really nasty* stuff, I don't know why they put it in, it's not supposed to be used anymore. At any rate, I have developed a fear of this stuff, I won't be too casual with it ever again.
TheChemist in reply to foobearJul 30, 2008. 10:03 AM
absorbs through the skin? I used the stuff in school, and we ALL sloshed that stuff around. On the labels I don't believe it said use gloves, I know for sure that it said use some sort of safety goggles, but to be honest we never did. Regardless of wikipedia, that stuff isn't bad, you're not going to drop dead from metal poisoning or something, but this Rio Grande stuff sounds like its pretty nasty stuff. I'd be extra careful. If Copper sulfate in the eye is something to freak out about, I'd be in panic now if the Rio Grande mix got into my face.
sandyq4 says: Jun 7, 2012. 7:40 PM
I have been electroforming for 5 years. You must filter the copper solution from time to time to remove oxides. Aquarium charcoal thru a coffee filter into a clean beaker. I take the natural shape of opals and grow settings around them and then gold plate them.
palombo5050 says: Jan 17, 2012. 10:06 AM
I have been looking into the electroforming process and saw a need for a device that is smal, efficient, and easy to operate. Check this out. This does not use a whole lot of energy. I saw some of the other devices used in this process and their prices. Let me know if you are interested or know some who might be trying to get started. This custom unit is made for small applications.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Electroform-Multi-use-power-source/
joefed62 says: Nov 15, 2009. 6:55 AM
Excellent instructable!  I was wondering what you do if this extra buildup happens.  You talk about adjusting the voltage, but do you have to sand or file the excess down?
paqrat in reply to joefed62Nov 26, 2011. 11:58 PM
I remember reading an article on electroforming and they suggested if one area of your piece is forming too quickly you could use some sort of laquer (sp?) or paint over the area that is forming too quickly. After the rest has "caught up" you can remove the paint and continue electroforming.
art.makes says: Oct 31, 2011. 5:31 PM
Thanks for your instructable, I'm going to try it.

Have you electroformed anything larger ? I'm looking at a 6"x6"x6" plastic bowl I'd like to try out. Do you need to use a glass beaker, will a plastic bucket do?
kirnex says: Oct 30, 2011. 4:20 PM
This is incredible! I've been doing simple plating with gold, various other metals, but had never considered trying this out. Thanks so much for the instructable--now I know what to do with all the pretty weeds that keep popping up in my garden haha.
mookiechan says: Oct 25, 2011. 12:12 PM
What brand rectifier is this? and what types/brands of materials do you use and is there a site you can order them from? Thanks!
mookiechan in reply to mookiechanOct 25, 2011. 1:03 PM
Okay, nm on the acid solutions... I read below. So just the rectifier and the conductive paint. Thanks!!!
simonad says: Oct 19, 2011. 11:23 AM
Hi Maggie, great instructable, thank you! Saw your shop on etsy, very nice... But your pieces there appear in color - do you paint them after the metal is applied, or is that a different method? For example, your blue rose ring appears kind of transparent, so I am not sure if that the same method.
Thanks!
OddBot says: Oct 7, 2011. 1:39 AM
Great tutorial Maggie!

I've copper plated before but never considered organic objects. Thanks for adding a new facet to my creativity.
Mena142 says: Sep 29, 2011. 12:14 PM
Great instructable! I might try this some day :)
Junophor says: Aug 23, 2011. 11:17 PM
Hi MaggieJs
Great Job. Somtimes I need for my objects copper parts but I find them only in other materials like plastic.

I will try to copper them as you showed it.

Thanks to your instructable;-)))
wd4nka says: Aug 23, 2011. 5:17 AM
Good comment, DallasDecker! It is what perpetuates avocations such as Ham Radio, chemical photography, and just about any art. And younger folks today, the college crowd in particular, are dying to learn how to use their hands to create something useful, besides dragging and dropping and left-clicking. And as has been seen in many industries, when the craft goes away, or what Germans call "das Handwerk", that industry begins to die. There is no digital substitute for das Handwerk. Even technical cultures like Germany celebrate the hand craft arts and industries with "Handwerksfest" events. They even issue stamps to commemorate them!
Westie2003 says: Aug 7, 2011. 7:39 AM
Can anyone please tell me where I can get the battery charger that is controllable with dials to control voltage manually? I live in the UK and want to have a go at electroforming but am struggling with the power supply. Many thanks
glorybe says: Sep 17, 2010. 12:24 PM
I think electro forming is the wrong terminology. In an electro forming process their is nothing underneath the object at all when completed. It is as if plating is applied until structural thickness is reached and the original object is desolved or removed from the item..
jengland3 in reply to glorybeAug 6, 2011. 4:14 PM
The terminology is correct. It is my understanding that for commercial jewelry applications the core is only removed for advertisement purposes and a it has a little to do with weight. Basically places like Tiffany can't sell an electro formed gold shell and still call it pure 24 karat gold if the positive form is still inside. They remove the core to make more money.
mhaws says: Feb 24, 2011. 10:47 AM
This is amazing. I am wondering if the chemicals are safe for pregnant woman to work around.
rossnzwpi in reply to mhawsJun 17, 2011. 2:54 PM
Hi, I'm not a chemist but all the chemicals used in this process are not safe. Personally I wouldn't go near it while pregnant or breast feeding.
NoPegs in reply to rossnzwpiJul 7, 2011. 1:42 PM
I wouldn't go as far as the phrase "not safe" myself... The actual electro-forming solution itself is just an aqueous copper sulfate solution. It is an "irritant", but unless you're bathing in it or drinking in it the actual hazard is minimal(so close to zero it may as well be.). Heck, you'd have a bigger hazard scrubbing the bathroom from the cleaning products used than this procedure. Toilet bowl cleaner is 20% hydrochloric acid, you know.
mhaws says: Feb 24, 2011. 11:30 AM
do you know about how many pieces a quart of this stuff would do? Can you reuse the solution after doing one pod? How do you know when the solution is "used up"?
NoPegs in reply to mhawsJul 7, 2011. 1:34 PM
If you're doing everything as written, the only "consumable" in the electrolytic portion is the copper plate. Basically copper comes off the plate, and into the solution at an equal rate the copper comes out of the solution and deposits on the workpiece. Maybe top it up with a bit of deionized water on occasion.
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