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Apr 14, 2009. 10:14 AMspeedsterharry
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insomartin, is there any possibility to change your tutorial and make clear the circuit only works with common ground ? The "ANY controller" part is misleading in the instructable. I'm off to buy another controller now ....
Apr 18, 2009. 12:17 AMinsomartin (author)
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the 4066 will work on ANY controller. since it's only a digital switch. much like the rubber pads/switch on any controller. i tried it on multiple console ps,xbox,wii,and pc joystick. and it will work. you need to find the supply ground and the "button ground"
Apr 18, 2009. 5:51 AMspeedsterharry
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Not all buttons have necessarily the same ground, you know
Apr 20, 2009. 7:58 AMinsomartin (author)
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i know. SEE STEP 3. DARK green - Signal Ground BLACK - USB Ground... and "most" of the controllers people here showed me is directly connected to USB ground. "IF" unlucky you have one that has a separate ground... see my disclaimer.
Apr 15, 2009. 6:07 PMspeedsterharry
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Today, I connected the controller PCB to your circuit. The 4066 gets hot quite quickly, the other IC stays cold. I installed just one piezo and the corresponding pot (in other words, 3 pots and their piezos are left off, all diodes, resistors, caps are installed with correct polarity), is that OK for testing ? Hitting the piezo registers 4 inputs (they register after like 10 seconds and stay on, until I unplug the game controller PCB). I checked the circuit and didn't find any obvious mistake (shorts in particular), that the circuit is fed correctly. Does anyone suggest anything next ?
Apr 18, 2009. 12:14 AMinsomartin (author)
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thanks for building the e-drum. you should try it first with a breadboard and experiment on how the circuit works. there is an OPTIONAL 1mohm resistor in STEP 3. click on the "i" on the top right to see it clearly. that will drain the capacitor c1-c4 faster. some 4066 drains more current.
Apr 16, 2009. 12:52 AMspeedsterharry
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I tracked down one source of problem: the inputs GND and the USB GND are not connected on the circuit. After using a wire to address the issue, the 4066 isn't hot anymore. However, the inputs are registered randomly, perhaps because the lack of pots on some piezo inputs is creating a lot of noise on the rest of the circuit. I'll solder the remaining components asap and see what's happening (and report back here of course).
Mar 5, 2009. 4:16 AMnomaruno
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tol pano ba ikabet ung game controller sa circuit?na gawa ko na ung circuit kaso ayaw gumana..hindi ko alam pano i connect ung output nung circuit sa gamepad..dida dalawa ung contact nung bawat botton nung gamepad..saan ko coconect tol?thanks!! astig ung project na to!!!!
Mar 12, 2009. 10:23 AMinsomartin (author)
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yung isa is GROUND common yun sa lahat nang buttons sa game pad. connected yung sa BLACK wire on STEP 3. the rest is SIGNAL. SEPARATE cila and usually papunta sa IC or yung Bilog na may epoxy. ingat ka sa connection baka magshort ka. sunog fuse mo sa usb. try mo muna mag experiment using a USB HUB.
Mar 13, 2009. 8:34 PMnomaruno
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tol ok na nagetz ko na at gumagana na...astig talaga!!! makakapag jam na kami nang banda ko...posible ba tong project mo na ma interface sa midi?astig talaga to insomartin...salamat tol...gagawa na lang ako nung mga pads tapos mag post ako nang picture...thanks ulet!!!
Mar 14, 2009. 6:09 AMinsomartin (author)
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may circuit c insaneGenius pinagusapan namin (dito mismo sa comments) gamit nya is XBOX controller. analog kasi yung buttons. (simply means na may VOLUME yung palo mo.) unlike sa joypad na digital. parang SWITCH lang ang behavior nya ON/OFF lang. and yes pwede ito i midi. walang problema. pero recommended ko yung kay insanegenius.
Mar 19, 2009. 3:30 AMnomaruno
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tol okay na ba ung project ni insanegenius?
saka ano undg values nung
D1 = ?
C1 = ?
saka ung transistor saan ung papuntang ground saka ung papuntang signal walang naka indicate?
thanks tol!!!
saka ano undg values nung
D1 = ?
C1 = ?
saka ung transistor saan ung papuntang ground saka ung papuntang signal walang naka indicate?
thanks tol!!!
Mar 19, 2009. 9:10 AMinsomartin (author)
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same values nung sakin. d1 is 1n4148 and .1uf ceramic or 100nf
Mar 24, 2009. 8:42 PMnomaruno
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tol thanks sa mga values pero na isip ko mahal pala ung xbox controller..pwede kaya gamitin ung PS2 controller sa project ni insanegenius? thanks ulit tol!!!
Mar 25, 2009. 11:04 AMinsomartin (author)
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no. walang windows driver for ps2. even yung connector mahirap maghanap. they are too proprietary @*@)#@#*!)(... bottom line. invest kna lang for roland, yamaha, boss, or alesis na DM. tapos ikaw na lang gumawa nang PADS using piezo thingy. may MIDI (JOYSTICK) or Serial or (USB (RARE)) yung dm. for fun. pwede ka gumawa nang dm for ps2 CONSOLE. roc bnd!!!
Mar 26, 2009. 5:30 AMnomaruno
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tol tama ka nasearch ko din na walang driver ung ps2 controller for windo...thanks tol!! ano nanaman ung drum machine for ps2 console?ung roc band na sinasabi mo? meron kasi ako ps2 hindi ko na ginagamit gusto ko i try ung sisasabi mo.... thanks pare!!!
Mar 28, 2009. 10:02 PMinsomartin (author)
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instead of pc joystick di controller nang ps2. kabit mo lang sa ps-123 mo. gets mo na?
Mar 23, 2009. 3:12 AMinsomartin (author)
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i don't sell piezo. it's readily available on alexan or any electronics store. just ask for piezo speakers. or ceramic transducer.
Mar 23, 2009. 7:58 AMkurapica118
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walang piezo sa alexan tol tumingin n rin ako sa e-gizmo wla rin. ung ceramic transducer nmn di ko alam panu gamitin. ung piezo buzzer ba pareho lng ng piezo speaker?
Mar 22, 2009. 4:12 PMelectroisok
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hello friend, thank you very much for your project, is very well done, I'm riding but I have some doubts, I want to make 8 drums without cymbals or pedals. 1) In connection 4066 do not understand where I connect the outputs? 2) Where to connect the negative terminal of the SW? Thanks
Mar 23, 2009. 3:13 AMinsomartin (author)
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you have to click on "i" on the corner right of the image to see the connections better.
Mar 12, 2009. 10:21 AMinsomartin (author)
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you can map it on rejoice but it's better to use a xbox controller. since it's a digital dm not analog.
Digital = LAME
Analog = Damn Realistic Drum Machine.
check InsaneGenius's COMMENTS about using this kind of controller.
Digital = LAME
Analog = Damn Realistic Drum Machine.
check InsaneGenius's COMMENTS about using this kind of controller.
Mar 9, 2009. 2:42 AMnomaruno
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i cant understan step 3...please help me how to connect the circuit to the gamepad..my circuit is done and my only problem is how to connect the amp circuit to the gamepad...thanks!!!!
Feb 28, 2009. 5:43 AMspeedsterharry
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Thank you very much grim0, I had never noticed the feature ! OK, now time to find someone for etching the PCB ....
Jan 18, 2009. 9:57 AMhanks2567000
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my band would like to get our drummer to be able play on pads a bass guitar line. How do we go from your project here to a rig which will produce bass guitar tones. Thanks, Hank
Feb 15, 2009. 3:18 PMMilotisX
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ok heres what id do 1. Make this, looks nice 2. download fl studio demo, free 3. get Joytokey, lets joystick inputs become keystrokes 4. Go into fl slayer, inside fl studio 5. assign drum pads to keys 6. thats basically it
Nov 11, 2008. 7:28 PMinsomartin (author)
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give me your address instead and i'll mail you parts na lang. i got truckloads of stock. pra walang problema. bwahahaha. they stopped stocking electronic components sa radio shack dito sa manila.
Jan 8, 2009. 4:14 AMstyker17
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bigay ko number ko. text mo ako prepaid lang kasi gamit ko na internet eh. #09159032140
Nov 11, 2008. 7:29 PMinsomartin (author)
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that circuit is more difficult and untested on the long run. and madaming components.
http://edrum.for.free.fr/static/pictures/KeithRPiezoRimDetector.jpg
http://edrum.for.free.fr/static/pictures/KeithRPiezoRimDetector.jpg
Hey, could anybody help me out? I made the circuit and it works...somewhat. It responds to the peizo, but the switch stays closed for up to a second before opening up again. Any ideas on what's going wrong? Thanks.
Jan 3, 2009. 12:33 PMGunpower2009
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i had the same problem like u..... you have to take a look at step3 . on the bottom u will see 4 1meg ohm resistors. An orange line and a smily point to them. Sometimes you need these resistors sometimes you dont. Just try it with them and let me know if it works. Cause i have the same problem like you BUT if i use these 1meg resistors or even 3meg or just 75 the whole thing become extremely insensitive. I have to strike with full force an my pad to trigger the button. without the resistor it is sensitive as i want it but the button is pressed 3secs.
Jan 3, 2009. 4:30 PMGunpower2009
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i have read in an older comment from insomartin that you have to use a ceramic condensator.... well i have a "Wima MKS4" which use a Polyester film as dielectricum. Do you think my problem comes from the condensator? and when yes then why make this a difference?
Dec 5, 2008. 7:39 PMinsomartin (author)
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Dec 5, 2008. 7:37 PMinsomartin (author)
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these are pretty cheap
3 Philippine pesos = 0.062034 U.S. dollars
i don't bother omitting the pot in anyways.
3 Philippine pesos = 0.062034 U.S. dollars
i don't bother omitting the pot in anyways.
Dec 5, 2008. 4:07 AMinsomartin (author)
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Both yes you can change the pot' but i don't think adding a 120k is a good idea. 1k (brown black red) should work fine. or short it instead (add a jumper).
Nov 28, 2008. 1:21 PMN1KO89
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I have a question... Is the code of the capacitor that you used 104 or 102? Because if it is 102 the value of the capacitor is 1nf... not 100nf I made the PCB and connect all the components but it doesn't work... I don't know why : ( ... The IC's that I use were "goldstar GD4066B" and "7DYJKKE LM324N" Can you give me a hand plzz? Sorry for my english, I'm from Argentina.
Dec 2, 2008. 10:13 AMovm_x
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yo ya lo hice y me funciona! el capacitor es 104, osea de 100nf. despues revisa este detalle/falla que yo encontré. el integrado 4066 tiene 4 patitas que en el circuito van unidas, si te has dado cuenta. bueno pues conecta todas ellas a tierra, pues resulta que ellos son el imput, y las otras cuatro que van al control son el output, que van al control. saludos desde peru (Y)
Dec 2, 2008. 11:37 AMN1KO89
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ahhh, no me habia dado cuenta de lo de las patitas... voy a probar conectarlas a tierra. y otra cosa, para probar el circuito tengo que tener conectados todos los piezos o puedo poner uno nada mas? como para probar si anda... Gracias por tu ayuda!
Dec 2, 2008. 12:33 PMN1KO89
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che buenisimoo!!! ahi me anduvo!! jaja era eso de conectar las patitas a tierra el problema... me salvaste las vida! :P jaja, gracias che!
Nov 28, 2008. 8:23 PMinsomartin (author)
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the IC you have should work perfectly but check the data sheet if it has the same pinouts. :) i originally used 104 ceramic caps .
Nov 29, 2008. 7:55 PMinsomartin (author)
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Texas Intruments CD4066BE ST Elect. LM324N i ordered mine at RS components.
Nov 17, 2008. 1:47 AMzaibatsu
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man! i made it work, big time! i followed ur instructions about the 1meg resistors and they worked like magic! bwehehehehhh!!! tanx a bunch dude! after i assemble this thing here ill post some photos of it....ive invested a lot on the rack of this this.....:)
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