FIRST MOD FOR XBOX 360 WIRELESS CONTROLLER/HEADSET/MESSENGER KIT

 by liquid x
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HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO USE YOUR WIRELESS XBOX 360 CONTROLLER, WIRELESS HEADSET, AND YOUR MESSENGER KEY BOARD ALL AT ONCE? WELL THEN YOU KNOW IT DOESENT WORK. TILL NOW THAT IS........
 
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Step 1: THINGS THAT YOU NEED

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THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO THIS MOD.
1. XBOX 360 WIRELESS CONTROLLER
2. XBOX 360 MESSENGER KIT
3. SOLDERING IRON
4. SOLDER
5. A T10 SECURITY STAR BIT
6. A T6 STAR BIT

IT ALSO SHOWS SOME WIRE BUT I NEEDED THAT AT FIRST TO FIGURE THIS MOD OUT YOU WILL NOT NEED IT, ALSO A WIRELESS HEADSET YOU WILL ONLY NEED THIS WHEN YOU ARE READY TO TEST OUT IF YOU DID IT CORRECT.
munchman says: Jan 30, 2008. 1:31 AM
DO I HAVE TO SHOUT WHEN I MAKE THIS?
Noodle93 in reply to munchmanFeb 12, 2008. 2:29 AM
NO BUT IT'S POLITE TO SHOUT WHEN COMMENTING.
clark in reply to Noodle93Apr 17, 2008. 7:08 AM
OH REALLY?!!! IT THINK ITS PRETTY ANNOYING!!!!!
Rock Soldier in reply to clarkFeb 14, 2009. 5:43 PM
OH OFF COURSE NOT! IT'S A GOOD HABIT TO HAVE.
clark in reply to Rock SoldierFeb 15, 2009. 10:57 AM
I LIKE HOW YOU COMMENT ALMOST A YEAR LATER.
toogers in reply to clarkMar 31, 2010. 5:22 PM
IVE BEEN WAITING A YEAR TO TYPE THIS.
hammertong in reply to toogersSep 13, 2012. 3:46 PM
... OVER TWO YEARS LATER...
Rock Soldier in reply to clarkFeb 15, 2009. 11:36 AM
I DO THAT A LOT.
Noodle93 in reply to Rock SoldierFeb 15, 2009. 10:15 PM
AND HOW I GET FOLLOW UP EMAILS ABOUT IT
Rock Soldier in reply to Noodle93Feb 16, 2009. 7:29 AM
I DOON'T KNOW...
clark in reply to Noodle93Feb 16, 2009. 6:38 AM
EXACTLY, AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, WTF? WHAT IS THIS? I DON'T REMEMBER COMMENTING ON THAT.
cyrozap in reply to clarkFeb 18, 2009. 7:23 PM
LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLLOOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLLOLOLOOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!
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Derin in reply to cyrozapMar 8, 2009. 4:11 AM
THAT IS FUNNY LOL THE GIRL GOT OWNED WAAZA WOOZA SMELLY SOCKS ICE CREAM INSERT COIN TO PLAY ANOTHER GAME BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEEP OOPS LOW BATTERY SYSTEM MESSAGE: DERIN IS CURRENTLY OFFLINE.
munchman in reply to DerinMar 8, 2009. 2:40 PM
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cyrozap in reply to munchmanMar 8, 2009. 5:15 PM
BUT... WHY? (Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series reference)
clark in reply to cyrozapMar 9, 2009. 11:03 AM
DUDE, WHY?! (fruit roll ups commercial reference)
Derin in reply to clarkMar 9, 2009. 11:20 AM
I DONT KNOW BUT SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT IN HERE(Derin E. Quote Inc. reference)
PatentPending in reply to DerinMay 6, 2010. 7:39 PM
*whispers*  c-c-c-c-combo breaker...
Krayzi99 says: Jun 16, 2012. 8:00 AM
Please, No caps-lock. It scares me, mama! lol. great ible.
umashi says: Aug 4, 2011. 3:46 PM
just to tell everyone who doesn't know already,they made an update for the messenger pad through xbox live,so now the wireless headset issue is fixed.
so many people were complaining to microsoft about this so thats why they made the update.
Smiling Cat says: Jun 2, 2011. 9:12 AM
Way overdone solution for the quadrant use problem. I had the same problem of the controller thinking a headset was plugged when the chat pad was attached or even when it was removed. It wouldn't let me set my wireless mic to quadrant one. Opened up just the controller to test some contact points and found all you need is a single jumper wire on two of the 2.5mm jack solder connections.

Keeps the badly designed 2.5mm socket from always reporting something as plugged in, lets me use the wireless along with the chat pad, and best of all if I plug a headset into either the chat pad or controller it correctly takes precedence and works perfectly.

1/100 the effort of this and undoing it is simple as removing a single jumper wire. Haven't found need to remove it on the three wireless controllers I used this method on.
marc92 says: Jun 19, 2008. 12:55 PM
looks professional but loose the capital letters. (i have not used a single capital in this post, in fact, i am starting a movement: the alice's restaurant anti-capital movement. (arlo guthrie reference for those of you cool enough to have heard the song.) join this movement and never use another capital letter again! reply/pm me if you decide to join.)
spiffy diff in reply to marc92Jan 10, 2011. 11:14 PM
all in. cause you can get anything you want....
cody777 in reply to marc92Oct 2, 2010. 11:49 PM
DUDE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE MISSING CAPSLOCK IS FREEKIN AWSOME
BEST KEY INVENTED IN MY OPINION(BEHIND SCROLL LOCK ANYWAY)
punkhead58 in reply to marc92Dec 17, 2009. 5:43 PM
I disagree, we Grammar Nazis are against both the Caps Lock movement and the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Capital movement. As a matter of fact, we intend on destroying you all in a global holocaust.

                                                            I know, I know, that joke was in bad taste.
deadN00B in reply to punkhead58Oct 6, 2010. 12:13 AM
Hahahaha.

Loved it.

=]
hintss in reply to marc92Dec 10, 2009. 5:28 PM
i join
lunchboxslayer27 in reply to marc92Jun 18, 2009. 9:31 PM
im in! im out when i have to type a school report tho!
macwhiz in reply to lunchboxslayer27Apr 2, 2011. 1:04 PM
same
luke in reply to marc92Jun 18, 2009. 5:02 AM
im in !
http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/disable_caps_lock/
i do that on my linux box and my mac ! ( i use it in windows for shift + tab in some games )
Numb-Nuts in reply to marc92May 23, 2009. 4:09 PM
damn straight! save some time and change the world. down with upper case, up with lower case! next a classless society! viva the revolution!
marc92 in reply to Numb-NutsMay 24, 2009. 7:08 PM
viva!
cyrozap in reply to marc92Feb 18, 2009. 7:25 PM
it's lose, not loose. everyone knew john kerry was going to lose the election. your pants are loose. i hope you've enjoyed your grammar lesson for the day.
marc92 in reply to cyrozapMay 24, 2009. 7:09 PM
oops, i only realized that typo now.
Teh_Fluff in reply to marc92Jan 7, 2009. 11:31 AM
I'LL JOIN!
Rock Soldier in reply to Teh_FluffFeb 14, 2009. 5:37 PM
LOL
megamonkey91 in reply to marc92Aug 28, 2008. 11:47 AM
ill join, just because of this guy
Ltcheesecracker in reply to marc92Aug 6, 2008. 5:38 PM
this is retarted you cant take off the messenger kit this way! and please do us all a favor and turn off the caps lock!
liquid x (author) in reply to LtcheesecrackerAug 7, 2008. 6:58 PM
i have not replied to a comment till you. i understand i used caps lock and i find it funny that everyone comments on the fact i used all caps. but if you are not smart enough to complete this mod then please don't talk trash. i also understand that some people (like yourself) like to just hear or read your pointless nonsense. i have had many people complete this mod and love it and tell me so, and the same people make jokes on my caps lock. notice i am not on caps lock because you are not worth yelling at. have a great life and hope to hear or read your pointless advice again. p.s. i use my mod everyday and it works fine. and if you would like to be able to remove the messenger kit from the controller just reroute the imputes to the headphone jack....... think of that? if you need help i will show you how to do that as well. this site is to share knowledge not drive to your house and do things for you. please let me know if this helps you.....lol.
Project D in reply to liquid xMar 19, 2010. 12:34 AM
Ok, the vast majority of the Caps-Lock advice in these comments is just plain rude, and most of these people should be ashamed of themselves. But I do agree that all caps makes it difficult to read all the text, and suggest that you not use that technique on your next instructable.

That having been said, do you know what the problem is that was causing the chat pad and the WIRELESS headset (since most of the other commenters seem to have missed that detail) from working together in the first place? I have yet to get a WIRELESS headset, so I have yet to experience the problem. Basically, I want to know what the problem is, and how exactly this modification fixes it.
ameuret in reply to liquid xNov 13, 2008. 1:13 AM
I use the Messenger kit (i.e. Keyboard with headset plugged into it) all the time to play on-line CoD 4 and GoW2 and I do not see the point of your Instructable. If your device does not work, just return it !!
ac1D in reply to liquid xAug 29, 2008. 8:22 AM
marc92, he joined you, he did not use caps for a entire 11 line of text. i guess hes allright now! sweet!
marc92 in reply to ac1DAug 31, 2008. 8:08 PM
excellent!
jjames_j2 says: Jan 26, 2009. 3:31 PM
Why not just plug it in?
joemonkey in reply to jjames_j2Mar 20, 2010. 11:28 AM
*facepalm*
Project D in reply to jjames_j2Mar 19, 2010. 12:34 AM
You can't plug in a wireless headset.
Maxaxle says: Dec 13, 2009. 2:43 PM
I LIKE CAPS LOCK TOO!!!11111


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ohemgeeitsNick says: Mar 22, 2009. 7:04 PM
...my wireless headset and my chat pad and my wireless controller all work together perfectly fine...no modding at all. i guess i'm lucky.
digitallyinsane in reply to ohemgeeitsNickAug 20, 2009. 1:30 PM
Same here, I've used my wired keypad, at the same time as my wireless headset. Before I got the headset, I used the wired one and have never had a problem. This instructable apparently only instructs you to bypass the connection with a permanent one, I'm thinking he may have had lint on his contacts or something of the like. Ensure you actually have this problem, use some diagnostic skills, and then if all else fails, wire away. Which reminds me, I would never wire a fan directly into the wall if the plug broke. Just replace the plug, you may want to move the fan someday.
craig3 in reply to digitallyinsaneOct 22, 2009. 7:52 PM
Maybe it got fixed in one of the updates for new version controllers?
tooter365 says: Jul 31, 2009. 12:38 AM
turn off caps. it hurt mi head
Slayeroevil says: Jun 11, 2009. 5:00 PM
You could always get a wireless headset...
luka1184 says: Jun 5, 2009. 1:39 PM
HEY! Pantent/patern this!´If you ask microsoft/windows/xobx and after that if you is allowed then pantent/pantern it it will now be mass produced and you get rich and known by anyone! LOL! It would be much helpfull accersorie! Hey pleas someone if you dont use it anymore then send me your Xbox 360™ Wireless Networking Adapter if you have one! Or make one for me my friends!
Ethrock says: Mar 28, 2009. 12:24 AM
Lose the caps-lock infatuation... please. It's more than annoying. Also just a general update for those of you not aware of it though I think most people by now are, the new headsets are the cheap, useless kind that have the mute in a position where you must remove your hand from gameplay to use it... bah, I'm babbling. The new mics work just fine with the chat pads.
randomguy96 in reply to EthrockApr 30, 2009. 8:44 AM
it almost makes it hard to read, doesn't it?
sibblyman541 says: Apr 23, 2009. 1:33 PM
thats technically not new I mean a legway thats something that you've never seen before. sorry man
kiss my donkey says: Apr 12, 2009. 7:38 PM
HEY DUDE DO THIS.
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kiss my donkey in reply to kiss my donkeyApr 12, 2009. 7:39 PM
i cant even here myself think anymore
greasypirate says: Apr 4, 2009. 11:09 AM
LOUD NOISES
cokebottle tuque says: Jan 10, 2008. 12:56 AM
Alternatively if you would like to keep your warranty intact and not risk messing up the solder job easy though it be you can go out and find a extension that fits in to the jack on the bottom of the keypad such as the one that come with rock band, ideally if you have rock band you should just use the adapters and the clips that keep it from coming unplugged. As a side note contrary to popular belief CAPS LOCK IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL, nor does it add anything positive to your istuctable.
Rock Soldier in reply to cokebottle tuqueFeb 14, 2009. 7:18 PM
But that would be easy...
But I agree
Rock Soldier says: Feb 14, 2009. 5:41 PM
hmmmm... If someone does this from his instructable, they could blame him completely and/or possible sue him if they break their controller. hmmmm...
gun487 says: Jan 31, 2009. 3:55 PM
lol learn to turn caps lock Off
LinkFox101113 says: Jan 11, 2009. 8:43 PM
I always use a wireless controller with Messenger Kit and the wireless headset. Never had a problem with it. Never heard anyone else have a problem with.
emerys says: Sep 22, 2008. 11:06 AM
some constructive criticism: stop YELLING. caps lock is only cruise control for cool on *chan boards.
Davvik in reply to emerysDec 5, 2008. 9:29 PM
I agree, not only was this instructable a waste of time, but also I feel mentally abused because I was just yelled at for a few minutes while reading it.
Th3H4rRy says: Mar 3, 2008. 8:44 AM
Trying to be nice. But this is useless. A waste of time. I have the messenger kit, and the wireless headset. Both working at same time. I havent cut up or opened anything. All of these things work together for me
JUSTNICE980 in reply to Th3H4rRySep 5, 2008. 10:10 PM
i agree. i have all three, and they all work perfectly. there is absolutely no point to this mod other than making the keypad a permanent part of your controller. absolutely ridiculous. i can't believe this guy actually is allowed to own a soldering iron. what's next an instructable on hard-wiring your wireless headset to the controller? wow.
MadMechanicMike in reply to Th3H4rRyApr 3, 2008. 6:07 PM
the idea is to have the keypad and controller in your hand so you dont have to switch between the 2.
Th3H4rRy in reply to MadMechanicMikeApr 18, 2008. 8:09 AM
The keypad is connected to the controller...
gimmelotsarobots in reply to MadMechanicMikeApr 17, 2008. 4:01 PM
They usually are... That's how it works
MadMechanicMike in reply to gimmelotsarobotsApr 17, 2008. 4:57 PM
they usually are what. attached like shown? ive never seen them like that before.
gimmelotsarobots in reply to MadMechanicMikeApr 18, 2008. 2:03 PM
No, They plug right in.
gimmelotsarobots in reply to gimmelotsarobotsApr 18, 2008. 2:03 PM
I mean attach.
Th3H4rRy in reply to gimmelotsarobotsApr 18, 2008. 3:12 PM
Lord Unlikely in reply to Th3H4rRyApr 19, 2008. 2:23 PM
Just like to make a point, I wouldn't recommend buying the wireless headset as mine broke within 6 months due to the fact it started to connect to the xbox as a controller and not a mike. There's a lot of complaints about it in reviews as well.
turbochardged says: Sep 3, 2008. 11:49 PM
this would be a cool mod except for the fact that the keypad come with a headset when you buy it.
ironsmiter says: Aug 31, 2008. 5:29 AM
color me stupid, but i MUST have missed something. You have a wireless controller, wireless headset, and a wired messengerkit. plug in the messenger kit, and the wireless headset stops working(right?) So you remove the plug from the messenger kit, and hardwire it to the controller. now the headset works. HOW?!?!?!? Step 5 reveals an 8-solder pad connector on the controller, and 7 wires from the communicator(keyboard). the only reason i can think that this would work, where the normal jack plug-in wouldn't is if pin 8 is pulled to ground when the communicator is plugged in, right? Does the headphone jack built into the keyboard no longer work after this mod? If so, would it be easier to just de-solder the 2 wires from the headphone connector, on the communicator, and call it quits?
Derin says: Jul 11, 2008. 11:23 AM
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mangadragon says: Jul 7, 2008. 10:54 AM
As has been said, and is very true: Caps Lock. Turn it off.
poorpaddy says: Jun 18, 2008. 6:57 PM
I get it man, this mod is awesome because I have experienced the same issue. It is a shame that Mircrosoft overlooked this compatibility issue in their own product line.
cry_wolf says: Jan 12, 2008. 6:48 AM
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! /sarcasm
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mwwdesign in reply to cry_wolfJun 16, 2008. 1:39 AM
LOL!
cry_wolf in reply to mwwdesignJun 16, 2008. 8:45 AM
:D
AceDaPig in reply to cry_wolfApr 5, 2008. 10:50 PM
Even with Cruise Control you still must steer....
Derin in reply to AceDaPigMay 3, 2008. 4:17 AM
wat about Curse Control
zjharva in reply to AceDaPigApr 17, 2008. 2:42 PM
lo amen to that!!! :D
jongscx in reply to AceDaPigApr 17, 2008. 8:28 AM
maybe he modded his keyboard too...
levator says: Jun 14, 2008. 8:26 PM
THAT CANT'T BE COMEFORTABLE!!!!! AND I'M NOT YELLING IT'S JUST THE WAY I TALK!!!!!!!SO SHUT UP FOOL AND ENJOY MY VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!
HIGHVOLTAGE-Z says: Jan 10, 2008. 5:38 PM
NICE INSTRUCTABLE +1. BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING??!
SnuffyDaPenguin in reply to HIGHVOLTAGE-ZApr 18, 2008. 8:50 PM
WE'RE YELLING BECAUSE THIIIS...IS...SPARTAAAAAAAAA!!!
jon7187 in reply to SnuffyDaPenguinApr 27, 2008. 3:58 PM
IM NOT YELLING THIS IS JUST THE WAY I TALK!
jayro707 says: Apr 26, 2008. 1:01 PM
COOL LOOKS PROFESSONAL:)
skimboarder33 says: Apr 20, 2008. 9:26 AM
CAPS ARE COOL BUT IS IT COMFORATABLE TO PLAY ANYTHING WITH THAT ON THE CONTROLL WHERE DO YOUR FINGERS GO?
icelander27 says: Apr 18, 2008. 11:52 PM
MAKING SURE THAT THE PICTURES YOU TAKE CAN ACTUALLY BE UNDERSTOOD (I.E. NO BLURRY PICS) IS DEFINITELY A GOOD IDEA. PLUS WHY WOULD I WANT TO VOID THE WARRANTY ON A CONTROLLER THAT I SPENT GOOD MONEY ON?
ianlikescake in reply to icelander27Apr 19, 2008. 12:44 PM
Have you moded anything ever? voiding the warranty is pretty much the only way to mod stuff.
GorillazMiko says: Jan 10, 2008. 4:15 PM
NICE JOB, BUT NEXT TIME YOU POST AN INSTRUCTABLE, HIT THAT BUTTON THAT SAYS CAPS LOCK BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE.
SnuffyDaPenguin in reply to GorillazMikoApr 18, 2008. 8:51 PM
THAT WOULD MEAN HE TURNS IT ON, I THINK HE JUST TURNED IT ON FOR THIS TO MAKE IT LOOK BIGGER. I DOUBT HE USUALLY HAS IT TURNED ON BUT WHO KNOWS!
Firebert010 says: Apr 18, 2008. 7:58 PM
ALL CAPS AND BAD PUNCTUATION AND PICTURES MAKE ME WONDER HOW THIS MADE FRONT PAGE
the_burrito_master says: Apr 18, 2008. 9:24 AM
go easy on him guys he just didn't learn how to write lower case yet. XD good instructable but retype it with caps lock OFF.
theque says: Apr 18, 2008. 9:23 AM
the blurryness! the pain, oh so painful
struckbyanarrow says: Apr 17, 2008. 7:19 PM
your next instructables better look like this
Rossiroller says: Apr 17, 2008. 7:11 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what the point of this whole thing was.
the_burrito_master says: Apr 17, 2008. 10:16 AM
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signposts in reply to the_burrito_masterApr 17, 2008. 6:58 PM
And you don't know how to spell write.
Charger_06 says: Apr 17, 2008. 5:02 PM
could you use normal case when your typing plz thx good instructable
jaysbob says: Apr 17, 2008. 4:56 PM
well at least it works for you :]
twenglish1 says: Apr 17, 2008. 4:24 PM
WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!?
xACIDITYx says: Apr 17, 2008. 12:09 PM
WHY THE HECK IS THIS POPULAR?
zjharva in reply to xACIDITYxApr 17, 2008. 2:41 PM
Yeah! i just noticed it and i was like what the heck!?
Jake Turner says: Apr 17, 2008. 2:13 PM
WOW, 24 COMMENTS AND ONLY 6 REFRAIN FROM MENTIONING THAT YOU HIT YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY FOR INSPIRATION! I suggest you edit this if you want comments that focus on the actual tutorial. I'd say something if I had a chatpad to have a problem with.
ac1D in reply to Jake TurnerApr 17, 2008. 2:28 PM
CAPS LOCK GIVE HIM THE ULTIMATE !" LOLZ!!11! NUB!1! POWERRRRZZ!"11!"!121!!! "!
dean-101 says: Apr 17, 2008. 11:14 AM
you do know that on the bottom of the keypad there is a mic jack that works with the mic u get free (with the msn kit) or the new mics you can buy
karmaghost says: Apr 12, 2008. 10:13 AM
I'm not sure I understand why this is necessary, maybe that's why you haven't found this hack anywhere else.
Omega192 says: Mar 30, 2008. 9:10 PM
hmm, ive never used a wireless headset. why do you need to hack it up in order to use it? does it not allow you to use the headset if it knows somethings plugged in or something? cause after all that, the port is blocked by the keypad... also, caps lock is not your friend, i felt like you were yelling throughout the i'ble.
illi11 says: Feb 15, 2008. 8:37 PM
does it not work if you just cut off the audio jack and use your wireless headset?
hdx says: Jan 20, 2008. 2:11 AM
Hey, nice work! I can't wait for next xbox360 related tutorials.
bleachworthy says: Jan 10, 2008. 7:29 PM
and other than the capslock issue... how does hardwiring it help? I use my messenger kit and headset simultaneously daily without a mod...
bleachworthy says: Jan 10, 2008. 7:25 PM
Sorry, but I am now revoking your capslock privileges. *pries the key off and eats it* NO CAPSLOCK FOR YOU!
Fenwick says: Jan 10, 2008. 2:17 PM
bad use of caps lock.
reddeth says: Jan 10, 2008. 9:33 AM
Caps lock is cruise control for cool! ...even with cruise control, you still need to steer.
PocketSized says: Jan 10, 2008. 3:30 AM
Good Instructable, but you need to calm down on the caps lock.
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