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Fire Staff

Fire Staff
Here's how to build a nice-quality fire staff for cheaper than most places sell them. Costs about 35GBP (for a huge staff) and takes 2-3 hours to construct.
 
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Step 1Safety first!

First off, I should point out that firespinning is a dangerous activity. You can painfully hit yourself in every single one of those squishy and easily-bruised bits that you never knew you had. You can trivially set long hair ablaze. You can set your clothes on fire. You can set your fuel dump on fire.

It goes without saying that safety is your number one priority. Don't spin lit up if you're not very confident in your own abilities, don't spin alone, don't spin when it's raining and slippery underfoot and NEVER EVER use petrol as a fuel. Personally I only use paraffin (kerosene in the USA) which is relatively safe both to burn and store. Make sure all long hair is tied back, fuel up well away from your performance area, spin off all excess fuel before lighting up, and wear only cotton clothing (or similar non-flammables: leather etc).

Simply put, I cannot stress enough quite how much of a danger the inexperienced firespinner can be to themselves and those around them. This is just a construction guide - while I'm happy to give pointers here and there I'm not going to take responsibility for your own stupidity.

That said, firespinning is a hell of a lot of fun. If you've been spinning glow-staves or broom handles and you're reasonably proficient then adding fire to your act may be just what you want to spice it up a little. Assuming you're still with me, I'm going to outline a fairly quick method of building a staff that will be safe and durable while not breaking the bank.
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Jul 17, 2010. 11:40 AMexcessive.insurgence says:
is there a a ratio on of how much wick material goes in to burn time? how long does this burn for?
Jun 21, 2011. 1:55 PMflamingo123 says:
i only gety about 5-6 mins out of my burns, my wick is about 2in by 3 in and i get only 3-4 mins on pure colman campfire fuel, what do you use to get that laong of a burn

May 20, 2012. 3:59 PMAuroch says:
Doing some rough math, his wicks are 4" long and more than 5" across. There's your answer.
Jun 20, 2008. 12:27 PMSgt.Waffles says:
You forget that metal is a great conductor of heat, and a bit of tape on the handle isn't going to do a whole lot.
May 13, 2012. 12:23 AMChroPro says:
Aluminium is fine for the job of a fire staff. The tape is a grip and has nothing to do with stopping the heat from travelling to your hand
Mar 5, 2012. 2:15 PMpoi_pai says:
This is true, but in a fire staff, it's not the fire on metal that heats it up. It's the fuel vapor running back and forth in the tube randomly igniting which heats it up. Since the staff has the wooden dowels plugging the end, there is no ingnition of the vapors. I have both sectional, plugged, and an unplugged staff I use in performance. Also, since it is the fuel burning, not the wood, those plugs can last quite a long time. The tape really doesn't insulate you from the flame, nor is it meant to. All it is is a grip on an otherwise slick piee of aluminum. On my unplugged staff, I'm simply using gaffer's tape, and it has lasted eight years. Hope this clarifies things!
Feb 24, 2012. 9:11 PMRoboTable says:
Steel is a heat sponge, besides that I don't know much more.
Oct 1, 2009. 4:20 AMiamjawz says:
aluminum isn't a good conductor of heat steel copper or iron are but aluminum is a poor conductor of heat.
Oct 4, 2009. 10:04 AMelectric_destruction says:
i beg to differ... aluminum is an excellent conductor of heat. that's why they make heatsinks out of it. Copper is better, but aluminum is still great.
Oct 4, 2009. 11:59 AMj626no says:
aluminum has a very low specific heat...therefore, it changes temperature very rapidly with its surroundings. That's why it is used as a heatsink because it can "extract" the heat from whatever it is applied to and dissipate it into the surrounding ambient air. Pick up a can of soda and it feels cold, even if the soda inside is warm. its because the aluminum draws the heat from your hand and makes it feel cold.
Oct 4, 2009. 6:46 PMelectric_destruction says:
wow i got owned. lol.... it is a good conductor though, correct?
Oct 4, 2009. 6:52 PMj626no says:
I am not entirely certain..I would presume that It is an okay conductor; however, because of its low specific heat, it quickly cools and would prevent one from getting burned. If you look at the periodic table, Al is on the "staircase" that separates the metals and the nonmetals.
Oct 4, 2009. 7:08 PMelectric_destruction says:
true. from my experiance, aluminum is a good conductor, but how much is just subjective i guess (frome my experiance of course)
Oct 8, 2009. 8:38 PMcodz30 says:
Aluminum is a decent enough conductor, In Australia our power cables are made from aluminium.

Oct 9, 2009. 3:27 AMiamjawz says:
Heat Conductor, not electrical conductor. I made a staff, used 19 mm round extruded alluminium 1mm wall thickness tube with 100mm kevlar wicks and even after use I find that only around 250mm at each end actually gets hot.

Wound cotton sash cord around alluminium for grip anyway.
Whole project cost me $50au
Kero $2.60au/L from a local servo (gas station)

Sep 8, 2011. 1:05 PMMESCRibe says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity
Thermal Conductivity usually tracks electrical conductivity very closely.
Oct 13, 2009. 6:15 PMj626no says:
 In my materials textbook I came across a table containing the conductivities of the top 4 most conductive metals: Silver, copper, gold, aluminum.  

The units are [(ohm-meters)^-1]
Silver               6.8 x 10^7
Copper           6.0 x 10^7
Gold                4.3 x 10^7
Aluminum      3.8 x 10^7

So yes, aluminum is a great electrical conductor.  My resource is "Materials Science and Engineering; an Introduction" seventh edition by William D. Callister, Jr. ISBN-13: 978-0-471-73696-7
Oct 16, 2009. 3:34 AMiamjawz says:
Guys just so you know were not concerned about electrical conductivity only the thermal properties. For this project aluminum is well suited in the way that it does not maintain heat, it quickly gives it to the immediately  surrounding air in such a way that your hands do not singe.

My apologies if that makes no sense i am tired. Cheers guys
Oct 17, 2009. 7:07 AMelectric_destruction says:
Yes, i know we are not concerned about the electrical conductivity.  In the first place, i was asking about thermal.  I believe i has good thermal conductivity, but as someone else put it, "it has low specific heat, and therefore changes temperature quickly with its surroundings."
Aug 21, 2008. 12:27 AMblugyblug says:
Not if its DUCT TAPE!!
Jan 1, 2009. 8:00 PMignition says:
actually, to make a rather good handle, take some rope wrap it around, a coil passing over every 3 or so inches, and wrap that in hockey tape, it works well, air is one of the best insulators. We use this method for the handles on axes, hammers and halligan bars at the fire department
Aug 20, 2009. 7:49 PMPryo Chain says:
Really good idea, señor fireman. Im gonna have to use that on my woodcutting axe and boffer weapons!
Dec 14, 2010. 8:03 AMcaffine_loady says:
I know this is an old instructable, but since I made my own staff a couple years back, I feel I need to chime in on a couple points.

I never pre-drilled pilot holes for the screws. If you go to the hardware store and look for screws called "self-piercing sheet metal screws" you will find screws that are made for piercing thin walled metal, like the tubing on this staff. The tip of the screw is very sharp and hardened for this. You just line up the screw, work it through the wick slowly, and when it gets to the metal, press harder on the drill with a steady hand and in a few seconds it will pierce the wall giving just about the firmest grip you can imagine. On my staff, the screws look countersunk.

The second point is how in this instructable the wick is back about half an inch from the end of the tubing. DO NOT DO THIS. The staff will get away from you when you practice and hit stuff/people/you. You don't want a fast moving hard/sharp/hot edge hitting things/friends/your-hand-on-a-cold-day. If you take the wick all the way to the edge, it will soften things up a lot and give a better visual appearance.
May 13, 2012. 12:13 AMChroPro says:
About no one wanting to get near you...

I'm a fire knife performer and have several occasions every month where people walk up way too close that I've told them to step back, or even tried touching the fire! one guy once even ran and fell next to my feet while I was spinning!

When you perform on a daily basis for crowds, stuff can happen. You have to remember that some (most) people are idiots and don't understand that fire dancing is dangerous!
Apr 4, 2012. 3:26 PMcsloat says:
I recently clipped myself above the lip with a borrowed staff, practising. It was a dumb move - I was just passing from a back spin to a front, lost control of my planes, whatever.

Then I bled all over the place for an hour. Now I have a new facial scar.

It was probably only a mistake and a hit I'd take once every couple of years, but if the metal pokes out beyond the wick, it gets jagged over time as the staff's owner drops it practising and bashes it's ends up on the pavement.

Trust me. Bring the wick out slightly beyond the metal. Don't leave the metal hanging out the end. The next less-competent friend you let play with your staff will thank you.
Jul 20, 2010. 4:11 PMtnicholson81captain kook says:
where do you buy the wicking?
Jul 21, 2010. 8:39 AMizzyinsf says:
homeofpoi.com sells it, and they ship really fast.
Jan 22, 2007. 11:13 AMroosta says:
why dont you just measure to the centre point??
Dec 14, 2010. 8:08 AMcaffine_loady says:
It's better to find the center by weight than by length because when you're spinning this 4 pound object, the only center is the weighted center. If it's spinning, you can visually see where the center actually is. Besides, when you're doing contact moves, you need to know exactly where the weighted center is located.
Dec 17, 2006. 6:16 AMTierra says:
You can balance tubes etc. really well by holding it out on the pointing finger of both hands and sliding the fingers in toward eachother. If one finger gets closer to the centre than the other friction increases and that finger slows down and so on untill you end up with it perfectly balanced. Most of the time.
Oct 31, 2010. 2:10 PMScarlettfaery42 says:
dang, thats cool!
Oct 19, 2010. 1:14 AMAlt-Horizon says:
Nice 'ible.
I would recommend though that you put the screws in underneath the last layer of wicking. Thereby avoiding exposed metal. The wick hurts enough in itself when for one reason or other you hit yourself in the head... and believe me you will. If for no other reason than trying to avoid hitting someone else.

I can answer the Q about burntime approximately. A newly built kevlar wicked staff using 1m (appx 3') will burn happily burn for 10-15 minutes after being soaked for 5min (and subsequently spun to remove excess fuel).

Burn time decreases with use but I am still using the same wicking and after 30+ burns it still holds for 7min. (my rate of spinning is rather fast though)

Keep up the good work.
Oct 25, 2009. 8:44 AMhelloworld1 says:
does anybody know how i could make a set of fire poi using the same kind of wick (width not important) as the staff above, im just wondering how i would make an attatchment point.
Jun 16, 2010. 7:48 AMdrummonkey92 says:
I made one for a friend's birthday (no pics sorry) just coiled the wick up and used a cotter pin and a big washer, attached them to dog chains. their pretty cheap and easy to do (wick's the most expensive part)
Nov 11, 2009. 4:27 PMPryo Chain says:
 Yup, you could make a pair of fire poi pretty simply with this same type of wick...  in fact, I think that you could make a pair exactly like this staff, but cut off the end of it with the wicking attacked.  Myeah, I'd just put an eyelet into one of the ends of wood and attatch it to a chain.
Dec 28, 2009. 7:54 PMstephenniall says:
Use conduit or Square aluminium it would make it under £10
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Hi, I'm Nick. I like fire and electronics, but mostly electronics. Due to a severe joint condition I am a full-time Datahand user. Other things I like include Portal, Electronic Warfare, unusual...
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