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Fixing that jet lighter you love

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So I was fixing my jet lighter (by now a fairly archaic design but a very good one and it only cost me£1 at a car boot sale) I used to fix antique lighters with my dad, thankfully jet lighters tend to be a bit more standard for repairs.

So In this I'll cover diagnosis, repair and also dismantling and assembly (most lighters designs' are a common principle... )
Ok so i got a slightly better camera than my phone, it's an ancient canon powershot A60, only 2MP but check out the macro in the pics, it was top of the range once upon a time and it shows.
 
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Step 1: So what you'll need for this

Picture of So what you'll need for this
Tools
- a small philips head screwdriver (the tiny ones) it almost alway philips head.
-a penknife or a small flathead screwdriver (for adjustments)
-a pair of pliers, needle nose are great her but I can do it with my fake leatherman start to finish (make damn sure the pliers aren't magnetized it's annoying)
-a safety pin or some thin tough wire or a drawing pin (you'll see what I mean if it comes up)

Materials
-some sturdy wire about 24awg (anything that fits will do (again you'll understand pretty quick) is handy
-lighter gas, really helps diagnosis, in fact try the first...
-You may need rubber tubing or a piezo spark depending how you broke it (if you dropped I already know whats wrong. the lighter in this is my drinking lighter because it's made of metal and I know how to fix it)

JavierC251 year ago
hi. i just bought a romson jetline that look a lot like the one you have in the photos. and it sparks. the gas comes out trough the nozzle it lights. but dosent stay light. can u help me?

What butane do u use?

Crud32 months ago

Hi, I have a problem with my lighter, it was a gift from someone I won't see anymore and so it's really precious to me and it would mean a lot to me if it could be repaired. The lighter just won't light itself anymore and if lit from another source the flamepressure is very low and the typical jet-like noise isn't there anymore, even on highest setting. I cleaned the airholes, the nozzle and the spring so the airflow is good but this didn't help. Do you have any Idea what could be wrong?

IIShift Crud31 month ago

Are you using Ronson Ultra Butane Fuel?

jbates19701 month ago

First off I'd like to say Thanks for the Instructable, great post! I love the whole Do it yourself community. It's Awesome that people like us can connect via the internet and help each other out. (There are more "mad scientist" types like me than I could have ever imagined.) So I have this jet/torch lighter that I purchased a long time ago from a Tobacco shop for about 20-30 dollars. It has a lifetime warranty, but it requires a purchase receipt which I do not have anymore. I am having the same problems that most of the people posting here have. But the main problem I think with this thing is that there was a ceramic type of ring that went around the igniting wire and the fuel/flame port. (I will try and add the pic of this lighter and the part I am talking about.) Anyway this ceramic type ring broke off. The only part of it remaining is a tiny piece attached to the igniting wire. My question is...is this ring important, if so can it be purchased anywhere or better yet would there be a way to construct a makeshift one. I hope that this all makes sense.

Thank you again for this post and for any help that you may be able to give me.

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silverhamer3 months ago
i have a triple torch cigarette lighter. a large yellow flame comes out of each nozzle; just like a bic lighter, not the blue torch flame that should be there. I have rebuilt it several times & can not figure out what's causing this.
HELP !!!
killerjackalope (author)  silverhamer2 months ago

The nozzles either aren't getting air in to the holes or they're damaged, had one that did that, used to burst flame out of holes in the body and burn my hand...

cramberg5 months ago
Does anyone know where to find replacement butane lighter inlet valves or called an inlet nozzle where the butane is filled into a butane lighter. I call it a valve but not sure what it is called?
killerjackalope (author)  cramberg4 months ago
People on Ebay have them, otherwise find a cheaper lighter with the same kind of valve and unscrew it - the kind that adjust by turning the valve are particularly easy to swap
khubris6 months ago
hi thank you for making this even though it was like 5 million decades ago :) i had an awesome jet lighter that i acquired from a ramekin set for glazing creme brûlées' (mmm) so i have no clue on the brand and make. attached is the design model.

http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mox_bg-ZgigvUtHho0NBMJA.jpg

basically i believe the port thingie where it's refilled is bent after i purged the thing for the first thing after learning about it on the interwebs, it was fine and working before, but i never ever had purged in and didn't think id cause damage because now when i try to refill it, there is a leaky sound and it will still light but since the gas is now leaking out it won't stay refilled. is it possible that i bent the port with whatever tool i used at the time when it was purged? or do you think the purging had something to do with it strangely enough? i have no idea, but i love the lighter because it's been my go-to for years in the kitchen and outside as well. i know its been years, but any help is appreciated since i've only had duds that wouldn't of have even come close to 'my precious' lighter, lol.

awesome instructable by the way, learned much from it as well as another plethora from the comments, i thank you!!
mwirick11 months ago
Hey i know this is old and no one may check it. HOWEVER =]

My fuel line in my torch lighter have fracture in it. I have literally searched the interwebs for hours ttrying to find out what kind of hosing it is or where i could get it with ZERO success. If any one has any insight ...i would love you forever (not really) Thanks =]
killerjackalope (author)  mwirick11 months ago
Get a really cheap bbq lighter, the tubing is the same stuff, just cut to length...
Thanks, that sounds like a good plan as I imagine a new one from Dupont would cost an arm and a leg!, I shall have a go. Incidentally, a few months ago while looking for something in a drawer at my parents house, I found a Ronson Viking piezo lighter belonging to my dad ,who after giving up smoking in 1980, left it there in the drawer, I gave it a quick click, as one would and to my surprise it produced a flame!. He said I could have it and I've been using it ever since, after a few fills it did develop the same problem as described by Johnius (not really surprising after 30+ years in a drawer) so I managed to find a new valve so now it's good as new. The piezo unit seems to be of military quality, they certainly made things to last in those days!
killerjackalope (author)  gilesrobert1 year ago
They did indeed...

Well apart from the odd issue of making it fit I've had much less trouble with cheap lighter ones than I have with fancier ones.
Hi , I've got a number of old and new lighters ,this one (sorry about the bad pic) is a Dupont, I was given it new and, after having used it for a couple of months, the piezo stopped clicking, giving it a little tap on the table makes it work once, a couple of years ago my friend took it back to where they bought it and after a couple of months was given a new one the same. Needless to say, the same thing happened to the new one, it must be IMHO a badly designed piezo unit but it's a shame as it is a really nice little lighter. I have opened it up, not completely, but the piezo unit doesn't look a if it will come apart easily, any ideas?
Thanks for now
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killerjackalope (author)  gilesrobert1 year ago
Really the best things for piezo problems is a replacement - if the unit looks the same as the ones you pull from disposable lighters then try fitting it, certain disposables have longer wires which make them handier for using in other lighters. Usually these last ages.

If not then reshaping a cheapy one might still be the best option - since they're usually so similar it's rare that replacing the whole thing isn't the best option.
ahughes191 year ago
hey, i know what im doing with lighters, i have fixed many (but almost certainly not as good as you as i just do it when my lighters occasionally brake) but i have this lighter that i love, i bought it in Turkey off a stall over a year back, now i have fixed it many times, i even had to pull the inside of a spark thingy (the crystal mechanism that produces the arc XD) out of a new lighter to put in the old one as this lighter has a very small area for it. it all works, however the plate thing at the stop that stops the little metal thing from falling out is melting away, is there any way to replace this?
johnius2 years ago
Hello, I hope you still check this one. But I just procured a Ronson Viking 52503 lighter and the filler port leaks all of the butane in a matter of seconds. Is it possible to fix the filler port? Thanks.
killerjackalope (author)  johnius1 year ago
Sorry on the slow reply, I must have missed this altogether.

Ebay search for the valves and O rings, various sealants will work, usually mentioned in the article, alternatively unscrew the whole valve piece and find an O ring at the hardware store.
I checked eBay and bought a compatible valve a few months ago. Replaced the whole thing and it works great.
killerjackalope (author)  johnius1 year ago
Glad to hear... Nice one.
Smithers81 year ago
I have taken my Colibri Firebird apart many times, and i get the hissing, and a click, i can see the spark, but no matter what the gas is at it wont light itself. I can light it with another lighter, but the flame is still not that of a jet lighter. Is there anything i can do to make it work? Could I pay you to fix it?
killerjackalope (author)  Smithers81 year ago
It sounds like the nozzle is the issue there, I imagine they can be fixed as I've mentioned before but I've only found replacing them to be successful - as I remember colibris are similar to the lighter pictured, the nozzle sits in a sort of bowl with an element above.

The removal of the nozzle is a little trickier, but it does unscrew from the ceramic surround.

The nozzles are different in design to the kind that have a simple jet, they actually spray outward from a tiny top piece in to the bowl rather than straight up, however a lighter with well matched parts can be found no doubt.

I've not come across a place to buy parts but try ebay for colibri, they're a bit better known.
jiribu1 year ago
Hello, I recently tried to fix my twin jet lighter and now it only lights as normal yellow flame (not jet) all over the nozzles. Anybody knows what the problem is? If it is the fact that it is not mixing the gas and air properly, any ideas on adjustment? I also took the nozzles apart to make sure they are not blocked and foolishly didn't take a note of the inner parts and now I have no idea in what order the things should be in and whether I actually still have them all. Can anyone please explain to me how they should be assembled? Thanking you very much in advance. Perhaps the author could include instructions on the nozzle assembly please. Also anybody knows where I can buy spare nozzles?
Tears are coming out at the moment as I can't fix my favourite lighter.
killerjackalope (author)  jiribu1 year ago
I've never had much luck getting the nozzles to mix properly again after that, there's a tiny piece of mesh that needs to be just right...

Grab a cheap one and nick the nozzles, there tends to be little variation, so just look for the same design in the top of the nozzle and chances are you'll hit it first time, you could dredge up a broken one as well...
Thanks for the reply.
I have a piece of mesh, copper ring and a tiny piece of metal plate from inside the nozzle. Any idea what order they should be in or whether I am missing some parts?
Also could it be that the fault is somewhere else like air in the tank or something like what I read in this post?
Cheers
Jiri
mclemm2 years ago
What do you do if the lighter won't "click" to if night the fluid? The lighter was fairly expensive and it stays lite fine (with another ignition sorce) also, it refills perfect. The only thing is it will not "click" when the button is depressed. Can this be fixed? I thank you tons.. Mjclemm
killerjackalope (author)  mclemm2 years ago
You best bet is to replace the piezo bit, the plastic 'clicker' most are the same, so a cheap lighter to steal one from should be all you need...
jmcneir2 years ago
I have tried countless times to get my butane lighter to click i have taken it completely apart going insane i got great gas flow everything else is fine it just wont click to spark
killerjackalope (author)  jmcneir2 years ago
It sounds like the piezo is broken, you can swap one in from another lighter very easily, since almost all of them are the exact same shape
AustralLord2 years ago
I am having the hardest time taking out the main pin that holds it all together, and tips on how to loosen it up?
I figured it out, I got a tack, like the kind with a little handle, and then I put the lighter on a vice and hammered out the pin. After I got the last mm out with pliers, I filed one of the edges (the one that's less headlike) round and filed the sides until they were shiny. Now it comes out regular with a paperclip!
coolit0923 years ago
Hey when I try to light my lighter I hear the hissing sound that the fuel is coming out, and I see the spark however no flame comes out. When I light the tip with another lighter it comes out as a regular flame (bic or so) and you said to clean out the "holes" what do you mean by that? Any help would be appreciated I have a Ronson jet lighter, and I fill it with Ronson multiill ultra butane fuel If it's too long to explain please send it to luke.stratakos@gmail.com
ok i had the same problem what you wanna do is try takin all the fuel out of either the front nozzle (where the flame is reproduced) or the back nozzle(which ever one takes out the most fuel) because the problem might be that you have air mixed in with your butane, then try refilling it and shake it up a bit and try it, (watch out though cause a big cloud of flame might occur) i singed my eyebrow's and stache for not watching out. but try that and see if it works :)
can anyone help
techno guy3 years ago
Is it possible to make a nozzle for this like described in your jet engine instructable?
Mark B943 years ago
Right i have a jet lighter and i can hear the gas coming out and I can see the spark jumping in the right place however it still wont light, however if I hold the gas release button and use another lighter to light it then a flame is produced but it is not the normal jet flame, do you know waht is wrong?
killerjackalope (author)  Mark B943 years ago
Could be the nozzle's messed up however they never light properly from another lighter, is it a blue flame that's just a bit messed up or is it yellow?
mostly blue with a small yellow tip, its not a jet flame though its sort of a dome shape
becuase it looks like a cross between a jet lighter and a standard lighter I checked to make sure the gas nozel wasnt blocked but that was still clean so it wasnt that , any more ideas? Thanks
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